2015-02-16 14:20 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
So far I have not experienced a problem with adding religion and
denomination tags to features operated by a religious community and have
continued to use the same landuse I'd use otherwise on the same kind of
feature (if any). What would
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net
wrote:
To summarise discussion, structures like -
amenity=campsite
campsite=waste_disposal
waste=chemical_toilet
is a bit clumsy given how many tags are needed and how often it _should_
be tagged. Further, many sites
2015-02-16 13:03 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes.
E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different
directions.
Shouldn't one just duplicate the stop_positions in the relation, and add
ways
Intermittent is an attribute,
not a top level value.
For example, it should be possible to tag a NEMA 5-15 as intermittent.
2015-02-16 11:47 GMT-08:00 Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com:
Please comment the proposal
I would like to return to the original question:
1.) I think it is confusing to have building=cowshed allowed on nodes,
but building=cabin not allowed. We should unify this. Either _all_
building=* keys can be used on nodes, or _none_.
2.) If we agree on 1.), would we opt to allow nodes or to
Please comment the proposal
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/power_supply%3Dintermittentto
add the value *intermittent *to the key* power_supply.*
Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,
*Jan van Bekkum*
www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl
Loops and spoons are still quite common, even when each variation gets its
own route relation to describe which ways are used from beginning to end.
What is better in v2 is that the way to describe each of the variations, is
completely unambiguous.
To me they are easier to fix when they get
All building=* on nodes is fine. As others have pointed out, it is
often necessary in HOT aerial mapping when we have low-resolution
imagery to work from.
Also, for humanitarian purposes there are serious uses for node-only
buildings, for estimating the population or the population
distribution
2015-02-16 13:33 GMT+01:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:
Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower.
antenna and mast are orthogonal concepts, a mast is defining the shape, an
antenna the function, that's easy ;-)
cheers,
Martin
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On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-02-16 14:20 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
So far I have not experienced a problem with adding religion and
denomination tags to features operated by a religious community
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 8:07 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net
wrote:
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
..For example: a commonly needed and commonly mapped feature is an
RV dump station, for emptying sewage holding tanks.
On Tue, 2015-02-17
- The community supply is not reliable and fails at random moments *during
the day...*
On Tue Feb 17 2015 at 7:09:33 AM Jan van Bekkum jan.vanbek...@gmail.com
wrote:
The proposal comes from experience while traveling through Africa.
Electricity failing three times per year probably
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
All building=* on nodes is fine. As others have pointed out, it is
often necessary in HOT aerial mapping when we have low-resolution
imagery to work from.
Agree. As for the Wiki editing, I too hope it doesn't lead to a
On 17/02/2015 6:45 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:02 PM, David Bannon
dban...@internode.on.net mailto:dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
To summarise discussion, structures like -
amenity=campsite
campsite=waste_disposal
waste=chemical_toilet
is a bit clumsy given how
On 17/02/2015 6:47 AM, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
Please comment the proposal
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/power_supply%3Dintermittentto
add the value /intermittent /to the key/power_supply./
Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards,
/Jan van Bekkum/
On 17/02/2015 6:50 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
Intermittent is an attribute,
not a top level value.
For example, it should be possible to tag a NEMA 5-15 as intermittent.
so a tag sequence of
power_supply=nema_5_15
power_supply:intermittent=yes
?
And then for my previous comments become;
How in hell did the term pitlatrine get in there 1500 times? A weird
construction of a multi-word term IMO. If anything it should be
pit_latrine. As far as that goes, the tag toilet:disposal seems, to this
reader at least, to indicate a place to discard toilets and be limited to
the values yes or
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
Waste colleting is wider than just camping sites. And that is the point of
consdering it as a new high level tag. The porposal may have come out of
consderation of camp sites .. but it has much wider use and so should not
be
On 16/02/2015 11:26 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2015-02-08 23:15 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com:
A proposal for a new high level tag of .. Rubbish :-)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features_key%3Drubbish
At present there as
On 16/02/2015 11:33 PM, fly wrote:
Be careful some mast as support for wind generators might be entered.
Thought antenna vs mast might be a problem but not mast vs tower.
Cheers fly
An antenna is not a mast nor a tower, just as a wind generator is not a
mast nor a tower. They may be
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
2015-02-15 13:44 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
Landuse=religious is a generic version of churchyard.
I agree that a churchyard could have a dedicated tag like
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
While toilet drinking water tagging is reasonably stable, there are
several camping waste related tags that are not.
For example: a commonly needed and commonly mapped feature is an RV dump
station, for emptying
On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 10:46 +1100, Warin wrote:
...
though it has no page as yet..
True, and given the lack of support, I don't think it is likely to need
one ! Lets drop this proposal.
This particular proposal started when Dave S complained about multi tags
needed but even he is
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
..For example: a commonly needed and commonly mapped feature is an
RV dump station, for emptying sewage holding tanks.
On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 10:39 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote:
..
discussion are resisting it as a
On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 20:47 +0100, Jan van Bekkum wrote:
Please comment the proposal to add the value intermittent to the key
power_supply.
Jan, good move, just wondering what you mean by 'intermittent' ? Two
cases may need to be enlarged on -
1. Where I live, power goes off, typically due
Am 16.02.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-16 4:25 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been taught that a mast is usually not self supporting, ie. has
guy wires while a
Yes, I'm reconsidering my POV. It will probably make sorting the members
automatically a lot easier than it is atm.
/me is off to go and convert some route relations... :-) (Helped by a
script ofc, doing it manually is a chore. So I'll adapt the script and let
you know when it's ready to be
2015-02-08 23:15 GMT+01:00 Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com:
A proposal for a new high level tag of .. Rubbish :-)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features_key%3Drubbish
At present there as a number of 'waste' values under the amenity key.
sorry for commenting a bit late on this.
Am 16.02.2015 um 13:33 schrieb fly:
Am 16.02.2015 um 11:32 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-16 4:25 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been taught that a mast is usually not self
Am 14.02.2015 um 23:06 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
On 14.02.2015 22:11, SomeoneElse wrote:
... it also says that it shouldn't be used on relations, which would
exclude perfectly valid multipolygons, such as this one:
Multipolygons are a means to map areas. So they are covered by the area
icon.
Am 16.02.2015 um 11:56 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
2015-02-15 13:44 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
Landuse=religious is a generic version of churchyard.
I agree that a churchyard could have a dedicated tag like
amenity=churchyard (similar to amenity=graveyard) or historic=churchyard.
The proposal comes from experience while traveling through Africa.
Electricity failing three times per year probably isn't very valuable
information to campers. We ran into three situations I would like to cover:
- The community supply is not reliable and fails at random moments
- The
2015-02-16 4:25 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been taught that a mast is usually not self supporting, ie. has
guy wires while a tower is self supporting.
+1
Also, the wiki
2015-02-15 13:44 GMT+01:00 John Willis jo...@mac.com:
Landuse=religious is a generic version of churchyard.
I agree that a churchyard could have a dedicated tag like
amenity=churchyard (similar to amenity=graveyard) or historic=churchyard.
IMHO landuse shouldn't define a feature, but be used
Hi!
2015-02-16 10:58 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
* maxwidth:physical: according to the wiki page: a physical limit
IIRR there were users of latin american countries telling that their
bridges sometimes had 2 height informations signposted: maxheight and
Martin Vonwald wrote:
My understanding so far:
* width: this is the actual width of a feature
* maxwidth: this is a legal limitation; nothing wider than the given value may
use the feature
* maxwidth:physical: according to the wiki page: a physical limit
The width of the vehicle that could use
Maybe it's for special cargo. If you are a regular truck, you have to use
maxwidth. But if you are a truck that has oversize load[1] you use
maxwidth:physical.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oversize_load
Janko
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Hi!
I just stumbled upon the wiki article regarding maxwidth:physical. From
reading it - and the articles about maxwidth and width - I don't really
understand when to use each key.
My understanding so far:
* width: this is the actual width of a feature
* maxwidth: this is a legal limitation;
2015-02-16 10:42 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com:
Hi!
I just stumbled upon the wiki article regarding maxwidth:physical. From
reading it - and the articles about maxwidth and width - I don't really
understand when to use each key.
My understanding so far:
* width: this is
In the UK frequent use is made of legal weight and width limits, often
to keep heavy traffic out of residential areas or away from country
lanes. In this case the road sign usually has a qualifier except for
access. An emergency vehicle can ignore these legal limits of course,
but they would be
2015-02-16 11:12 GMT+01:00 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com:
if there was something tagged like (example made up):
barrier=bollard
width=0.2m
maxwidth=1.2m
What about maxwidth:physical in this example?
Like I wrote above:
I'd expect the width to be the width of the bollard and
Hi!
2015-02-16 11:16 GMT+01:00 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi:
The width of the vehicle that could use the way can be wider than the way
itself, even if it depends on the conditions whether they're allowed to.
For an example, a way in a park might be, say, 2 meters wide, but if
there's
2015-02-16 11:18 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com:
Maybe
If you read a documentation and afterwards you maybe know what it means,
the documentation might need some kind of improvement. ;-)
I think we got enough good examples in this thread. Anyone willing to
update the wiki?
There are still cases where forward/backward are useful with P2-routes.
E.g. a route with a loop and some members used twice but different
directions.
Personally, I still use forward/backward on any member of a route which
is only used in one direction and for all P2-routes as it makes it much
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