Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-03-21 Thread Jan van Bekkum
Thanks Dave and Dave, I have changed the designated campground as proposed and made RV/Motorhome/Caravan more explicit. For consistency rendering is now using the same (tent) symbol for all categories, but in different colours. I did leave in the 6th category. It will always be an area. It

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi Bryce, Am 2015-03-21 um 01:54 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-03-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jan van Bekkum wrote: [short message] [long quote] Jan (and others): please trim the message to which you are replying. Not everyone uses a mail client like gmail which automatically hides excess quoting. Thank you. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2015-03-21 um 02:29 schrieb Bryce Nesbitt: Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar regional default value. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21.03.2015 um 08:54 schrieb Michael Reichert naka...@gmx.net: I agree. Because it is used on 47541 objects at OSM all over the world, it's best to move the page to Key:smoking. +1 cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-21 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: But perhaps it would be more universal to have built_date=1200 AD I always thought start_date was used for that. regards m ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

2015-03-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I propose adding a small note to specifically cover designated smoking areas on closed ways: smoking=designated area=yes As the remaining smokers must find and congregate in those :-). And removing the section on default relations, as it's not actually used (and as noted problematic): //

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

2015-03-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 20.03.2015 um 20:24 schrieb André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: We have already discussed that historic=castle which is a historic with an attribute castle doesn't make sense. André, you may like the current tagging scheme or not, but if someone asks for tagging help on this

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-03-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
I like the changes. Good work. I edited the first paragraph in the Tagging section to clarify it. I have a couple more suggestions but won't get to them until tomorrow. Talk later, Dave On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Jan van Bekkum wrote:

[Tagging] Is what we are doing useful? (OSM.org map case)

2015-03-21 Thread André Pirard
Hi, I think that one good way to promote OSM is to teach the general public to make references to the main Map http://www.openstreetmap.org. I know persons writing to 100s of people who could write things like the rendezvous is here

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-03-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
Now that the definition of designated campground has changed, its description the Examples section below should be changed as well. Here's what we have now: #Designated campgrounds: sites that charge no or a nominal fee, have some or no facilities, sometimes limited length of stay, community

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

2015-03-21 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 07:45 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: I don't think this is accurate. In my experience, designated sites are very similar to commercial sites except you pay a government for the No no no ! Dave, if its effectively similar to a commercial camp ground, it should be mapped as

Re: [Tagging] Is what we are doing useful? (OSM.org map case)

2015-03-21 Thread Warin
On 22/03/2015 11:42 AM, André Pirard wrote: I feel like being insulted instead of thanked (as well as many other persons). Join the club. I have, of course, immediately stopped improving and translating the OpenStreetMap documentation. If you do that 'they' have won. Persist, possibly