On Sun, 2015-03-22 at 07:45 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I don't think this is accurate. In my experience, designated sites are > very similar to commercial sites except you pay a government for the
No no no ! Dave, if its effectively similar to a commercial camp ground, it should be mapped as a commercial camp ground. I don't care where the money goes, point is if full service, you pay an appropriate fee, someone is in charge. The description Jan has for a "Designated camp grounds" describes a type of camp ground perfectly. Free or nominal fee. You come and go as you please (although lots do set a max stay). There is no one in charge and, naturally, few facilities are provided. usually don't have predefined 'pitches' (hate that word!) and tend to be a bit better spaced. Do get very busy at times, sure ! Don't exist everywhere but I use them a lot and they need to be mapped. Maybe we need to change the definition of commercial cam grounds to better cover the type of thing you are talking about ? David > > #Designated campgrounds: sites that charge no or a nominal fee, have > some or no facilities, sometimes limited length of stay, community > feel, self managed. Typically less crowded than commercial > campgrounds. For example locations in a community where you are > allowed to put your motorhome or caravan. You don't pay but have no > amenities or perhaps only drinking water and toilets. The service is > provided by the community to attract visitors. France and Australia > have many of such places; > > > I don't think this is accurate. In my experience, designated sites are > very similar to commercial sites except you pay a government for the > privilege of camping there instead of a private party. The designated > camp_sites I know of have almost as many services as the larger > commercial ones, cost nearly the same and are certainly not > self-managed. Nor or they less crowded. I'm thinking of the big > campgrounds at American national and state parks. Yellowstone N.P. for > example has several designated campgrounds that offer many amenities > (recreation center, convenience stores, etc.) and cost $20/night for a > standard site and $48/night for an RV site with "full hook-up", that > is, water, electricity, and sewage disposal. These campgrounds are > crowded through the entire season and some, notably Denali N.P. in > Alaska, available only with advance registration. > > > > > How about this: > > > Designated campgrounds are similar to many commercial sites except may > offer fewer services, the major difference being that most are managed > not for profit but as a public service. Some are free but others may > cost as much as a commercial site. They are often located within > state, local, provincial, or national parks. > > > By the way, under Examples in #6 you mention default rules where > camping is allowed any place it's not prohibited. This is true for the > entire state of Alaska. And of course there are many state > administered and controlled, designated, camp_sites as well. It's > worth noting that these sites are not free. > > > Regards, > > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging