Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:16, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Just to be a little pedantic, 'motorhome' would also fit the big > fifth-wheel units towed behind a monstrous great pickup - > I would have said that a 5th-wheeler would have been put in with towed "caravans", as it doesn't have it's own motor.

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 14/01/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal word! Should know better by now :-) On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 21:58, Paul Allen > wrote: However, there does appear to be a better term.  From

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Swarthout
Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a look at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the Wikipedia definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for permanent living. It has wheels, hence the mobile part of its name but it's moved very infrequently,

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Lorenzo Mastrogiacomi
Il giorno lun, 14/01/2019 alle 10.42 +1100, Warin ha scritto: > On 14/01/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 7:54 PM Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a look > at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the Wikipedia > definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for permanent living. It has > wheels,

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 14/01/19 11:52, Dave Swarthout wrote: Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a look at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the Wikipedia definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for permanent living. It has wheels, hence the mobile part

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jan 13, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > So what do you call "little houses on wheels that are towed behind your car > to stay in when you go on holidays"? :-) > > Are they just "trailers" > > Thanks > > Graeme “Travel trailers”. A generic plain “trailer” is probably

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Swarthout
Warin, You're in Australia, right? When I was traveling in New Zealand I'm pretty sure they called small motorhomes caravans. But maybe not. I have no personal knowledge of the word caravan. To me, it makes no sense at all to label anything having wheels as a caravan when everyone knows a caravan

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Swarthout
Back to the caravan vs motorhome distinction for a moment. By the way, Martin's page was in regard to access, so it's not so relevant to this discussion except to acknowledge that the term motorhome is in existence. Graeme mentioned propulsion so I assumed we were talking about what in the U.S.

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 13/01/19 20:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. Jan 2019, at 09:51, Dave Swarthout wrote: I have no personal knowledge of the word caravan. To me, it makes no sense at all to label anything having wheels as a caravan when everyone knows a caravan is a string of

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jan 2019, at 11:10, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > However .. any new language will evolve and diverge, so it will eventually > end up like English ... confused. any language will be optimized for the context in which it evolved, so German would be

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 09:10, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Back to the caravan vs motorhome distinction for a moment. By the way, > Martin's page was in regard to access, so it's not so relevant to this > discussion except to acknowledge that the term motorhome is in existence. > Graeme mentioned

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Dave Swarthout
>Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome? (I think that would be a good coverall term?) I would prefer that but it's an American term. We might as well just stay with caravan. Plus, I do think the tag you're proposing could, with enough thought, be made to work for all types of

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
while my dictionary also states that motorhome is an American term, we already have it established as access tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:motorhome Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Warin
On 13/01/19 19:06, Dave Swarthout wrote: >Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome? (I think that would be a good coverall term?) I would prefer that but it's an American term. We might as well just stay with caravan. Plus, I do think the tag you're proposing could, with enough

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

2019-01-13 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal word! Should know better by now :-) On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 21:58, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 09:10, Dave Swarthout > wrote: > >> Graeme mentioned propulsion so I assumed we were talking about what in >> the U.S.