On 13/01/19 19:06, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome? (I think that
would be a good coverall term?)
I would prefer that but it's an American term. We might as well just
stay with caravan. Plus, I do think the tag you're proposing could,
with enough thought, be made to work for all types of
recreational_vehicles/caravans.
There is a difference.
Caravans attach to a motor vehicle for moment.
Motor homes/campers are self propelled.
There was a thread just a while ago on this list discussing ti-lo's
solo initiative to upgrade motorcycle=shop tagging. It was/is a
sensible scheme that integrated the functions of dealer, parts shop
and accessories shop by using subtags to make the distinctions. (See
the Services section:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmotorcycle#Services_tags).
His scheme was criticized because he didn't discuss it fully enough on
this list but aside from that, I liked the idea. The main tag and all
subtags except those that already stand on their own, begin with the
same keyword, motorcycle, and proceed from there, adding as much
detail as desired or known.
Hence, one might have
caravan:parts=yes
caravan:accessories=yes/no
caravan:sales=yes/no
caravan:type=type_a/type_b/type_c/fifth_wheel/trailer
type? caravan:classification=* ? classifications could be local legal
ones. Other things are descriptions .. and OSM has a tag for that.
second_hand=yes/only
caravan:propulsion=trailer/yes/solar_powered (wishful thinking) [also
gas/diesel?]
I say again, caravans are not self propelled - they need to be pulled
along by something.
Oxford Dictionary: A vehicle equipped for living in, typically towed by
a car.
Origin Late 15th century (in caravan (sense 2)): from French caravane,
from Persian kārwān. The sense ‘covered horse-drawn wagon’ dates from
the early 19th century.
The caravan:types are well-known to anyone shopping for RVs (in
America for sure but Europe or Asia, I dunno) but the tag is optional.
Use it for fine-grained tagging, ignore it otherwise.
In the UK smaller 'back' roads are narrow - Toyota Landcrusiers are seen
as too wide, an American small Winabago is UK huge.
Dave
On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 1:01 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick
<graemefi...@gmail.com <mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 13:06, Dave Swarthout
<daveswarth...@gmail.com <mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I'm assuming that this tagging scheme is also for a shop that
sells only caravan parts and accessories but not caravans.
No, I've tried to set it up selling (dealer) as well as parts,
repair & rental. Any other options you can think of, or better
ways to word things?
Also, I see you've decided not to be specific about the type
or style of caravan sold. I would think caravan:style or
caravan:class might be useful to distinguish between type_a,
type_c, fifth-wheel, trailer, etc.
Couple of people have suggested that & I've asked some questions
about "how" but no feedback yet
On Tue, 8 Jan 2019 at 07:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick
<graemefi...@gmail.com <mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Possibly something like caravan:type=caravan / motorhome /
Winnebago / camper trailer etc, but then you get to the
problem of what is difference between a camper van, motorhome
& Winnebago?
motorised=yes / no?
propulsion=towed / motorised?
Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome? (I think that
would be a good coverall term?)
It's also, at least in the US, very common for a dealer
to sell one or the other, but not both.
But if we use a separate page, won't you have the same problem
that you'll only be able to find one or the other?
As I mentioned earlier, if we had
caravan:type=caravan / motorhome / camper_trailer
would you be able to search for the type you want?
So, any thoughts?
Thanks
Graeme
PS How you going using Warin's suggestion to create pages? :-)
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Dave Swarthout
Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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