Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Hi Martin Beautiful... amenity=fountain & drinking_water =yes fountain =sarcophagus, But either way Please add pictures to Wikimedia commons as possible and link back to each node. I would be happy to help. Best Regards, Stuart On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 09:36 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

for me, this discussion can be closed if you start rendering natural=hedge in the same colour as barrier=hedge. I would have been nice that we just had such an alternative the moment you changed the rendering. regards m. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

Feb 6, 2020, 10:14 by lionel.gi...@gmail.com: > One problem with multipolygon relation is that by definition you can't put > > node > it those and you can't put > contiguous buildings> either > Nodes are a problem. Contiguous buildings are solvable, but it requires turning buildings into

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

> I still do not understand why area=yes is a bad tag... > you have problems to implement it in your workflow. That is not correct. It is simple enough to check for the presence or abscenss of `area=yes` prior to rendering. See an attempt at

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

Thanks for all comments! For now I created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Duniversity#Complex_areas to document complexity discovered during this discussion. This way we can avoid remaking entire discussion next time and problem is at least documented. Feb 6, 2020, 11:34 by

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Christoph Hormann : > I originally was under the impression that > use of barrier tags as a secondary tag for landuse polygons etc. was > consensus among mappers based on the fairly large use numbers for that > (>350k) Correct. > but it quite clearly isn't. Yes it is, but an explicit

Re: [Tagging] barrier=hedge

> Zeeland is a bad example, and absolute numbers are low. ... > Please check Noord-Brabant, Zuid-Holland, Utrecht. You can do these searches yourself at overpass, eg Utrecht: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qv7 There are 107 linear hedges in Utrecht, and only 1 mapped as a polygon

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:19, Lionel Giard wrote: > The site relation was originally created for groups of features : power > plant (wind turbine nodes spread over the land or sea), historical sites > (often only some element (one tower, one building, ...) are historic and > not the entire place)

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Friday 07 February 2020, Marc Gemis wrote: > > I still do not understand why area=yes is a bad tag. I never said it was. I said area=yes currently has one *and only one* meaning - to indicate a closed way is a polygon. Since this is such a fundamental low level distinction in the OSM data

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

The site relation was originally created for groups of features : power plant (wind turbine nodes spread over the land or sea), historical sites (often only some element (one tower, one building, ...) are historic and not the entire place) and parking (especially underground parking with only

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

"Removing" amenity=drinking_water is to be excluded as an option. It is used more than 20 times. Volker On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 17:02, Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 15:27, António Madeira > wrote: > >> >> If, in Britain, a fountain is normally a ornamental fountain, that >>

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

oseph Eisenberg : > 2) Many hedges which were mapped like areas are currently missing > `area=yes` tags. In this comment > ( > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3844#issuecomment-582692389 > ) > you can see that over 90% of the `barrier=hedge` closed ways in a > Dutch

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 7 feb 2020, alle ore 07:01, European Water Project > ha scritto: > > This old drinking fountain is harder to classify: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fountain_Snow_Hill_Samuel_Gurney..jpg > Technically just a drinking fountain but it is rather decorative.

Re: [Tagging] barrier=hedge

Well, I'm not so good with overpass turbo, but this query gives an impression: [out:json][timeout:25]; ( way["barrier"="hedge"]["area"="yes"]({{bbox}}); ); // print results out body; >; out skel qt; When I run it on different parts of Nederland and Belgium, it finds many hedge areas in most

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Friday 07 February 2020, Peter Elderson wrote: > E.g. if a solution would be to tag hedge areas as natural=hedge > or landcover=hedge, then the change path would be for the renderer to > temporarily render the old AND the new tagging, so mappers can edit > the old tagging to the new tagging.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Christoph Hormann : > On Friday 07 February 2020, Peter Elderson wrote: > > E.g. if a solution would be to tag hedge areas as natural=hedge > > or landcover=hedge, then the change path would be for the renderer to > > temporarily render the old AND the new tagging, so mappers can edit > > the old

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Feb 7, 2020, 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com: > This list regularly suggests things like replacing landuse=grass with > landcover=grass, and proposes that editors make the appropriate changes. > Vocal part of the list that seems minority to me. > Then we give up on entirely sensible ideas because

Re: [Tagging] barrier=hedge

Le 07.02.20 à 13:59, Peter Elderson a écrit : > intentionally mapped hedge areas. Not leisure/natural/landuse etc. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Qwl exclude it ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Hi Paul, >From what I understand, the US Federal regulation in 1912 was a blanket ban on all water fountains with reusable metal cups not the fountain itself. There are also some regulations regarding the nozzle itself on modern fountains... some of the older ones accumulated dribble which could

Re: [Tagging] key damage and HOT

> On Feb 6, 2020, at 10:35 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 7/2/20 3:47 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:30, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> Let say a hospital has collapsed. >> >> The crisis mapping

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 15:25, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Feb 7, 2020, 15:53 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > This list regularly suggests things like replacing landuse=grass with > landcover=grass, and proposes that editors make the appropriate changes. > > Vocal

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Hi Martin, Add an image tag or wikimedia commons tag to OSM node or OSM to an image on Wikimedia commons. Best regards, Stuart On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 15:29 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Fr., 7. Feb. 2020 um 10:00 Uhr schrieb European Water Project < > europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>: > >>

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:50, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2020, Peter Elderson wrote: > > E.g. if a solution would be to tag hedge areas as natural=hedge > > or landcover=hedge, then the change path would be for the renderer to > > temporarily render the old AND the new

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > I currently tend towards a broader solution of dropping rendering of all > barrier tags on polygons. Aaaarghh! No. Nononononono. "Oh dear, I've just made a change that upsets a lot of mappers. I'll deal with the problem

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 7 feb 2020, alle ore 10:19, Lionel Giard > ha scritto: > > But creating a new relation type which would be with the same specification > than a site relation would be a bit weird to me. we’ve done this for boundary relations too, which are essentially

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: > it would make a lot of sense for OSM-Carto to stop indicating this is valid > tagging. it would make more sense to 1) decide what a valid/ideal schema is. 2) decide what a invalid/bad schema is. 3) making sure that the new schema is at

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 06:01, European Water Project < europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The fountain in the picture you show is an old style fountain with a > drinking cup who style was banned by Federal Regulation in the US in 1912 > due to its unsanitary nature. > This one is in the

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Feb 7, 2020, 15:48 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 10:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: > >> it would make a lot of sense for OSM-Carto to stop indicating this is valid >> tagging. >> > > it would make more sense to > 1) decide what a valid/ideal schema is. > 2) decide what a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

Am Fr., 7. Feb. 2020 um 10:00 Uhr schrieb European Water Project < europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>: > > But either way > > Please add pictures to Wikimedia commons as possible and link back to each > node. I would be happy to help. > do you intend, add a link from wikimedia to osm, or

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Feb 7, 2020, 17:08 by pla16...@gmail.com: > On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 15:25, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> > tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> Feb 7, 2020, 15:53 by >> pla16...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> Then we give up on entirely sensible ideas because Carto insists on a "no >>> synonyms"

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging : > If you think that there is broad support for landcover proposal - feel > free to > start vote on the landcover proposal. > How about changing established tagging for hedge areas - was there a proposal? What did it propose? I must have missed it somehow.

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Am Fr., 7. Feb. 2020 um 11:03 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > 1) The tag `area=yes` is only supposed to mean "this closed way is an > area, not a line", and is only used when this is not already obvious > from other tags. > > It is not necessary to add `area=yes`

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

Am Fr., 7. Feb. 2020 um 11:26 Uhr schrieb Christoph Hormann : > I currently tend towards a broader solution of dropping rendering of all > barrier tags on polygons. great, this would make it very clear that there is indeed some problem with the tagging. Although I guess carto would get a lot