Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
On 08.08.2013 11:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Can I have waterway=dam highway=* you could, but I'd suggest to use distinct objects and add layer tags to one in order to define stacking. I think that one single object should suffice as long as the dam and the road don't have different names or something. We don't make separate objects for highway=* and embankment=* either. However, I am afraid that some renderers are too dumb to extract a highway and a dam out of one object. That makes your suggestion seem fine from a practical viewpoint. There are bridges with a pipeline inside and a footway on top (or an underground railway inside and a road on top). In that case, we should definitely separate them in order to define layer=*. It is important to duplicate the nodes too because the pipeline is not connected to the footway (as opposed to the road which is connected to the dam). If we would care, even the nodes should get layer=* tags. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
2013/8/10 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at I think that one single object should suffice as long as the dam and the road don't have different names or something. We don't make separate objects for highway=* and embankment=* either. However, I am afraid that some renderers are too dumb to extract a highway and a dam out of one object. That makes your suggestion seem fine from a practical viewpoint. in a simplified mapping you could use both on the same object, but generally I'd map a dam as an area and in this case you won't be able to simply add a highway tag. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
Il giorno 08/ago/2013, alle ore 02:13, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com ha scritto: Can I have waterway=dam highway=* you could, but I'd suggest to use distinct objects and add layer tags to one in order to define stacking. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
Hi, Thanks to all who responded. On 2013-08-08 06:40, malenki wrote : You could map the dam as area with the highway crossing it. Yes, I finally did that. Even if the dam is a mere 6.5 m wide, it makes sense. On 2013-08-08 02:49, Paul Johnson wrote : I don't see how those tags are mutually exclusive. As for a dam being a waterway, makes about as much sense as highway=traffic_signals to me. It depends what tags you're speaking of. Doing as said above, I got a Crossing waterway/highway (at dam ends) compliment from JOSM. Expecting Osmose soon. Having had them share the same nodes, which I like less because invisible, that would have been overlap compliment, even at different layers unless this will be accepted one day. https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/7788 See what I mean? Cheers, André. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:13 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com mailto:a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The waterway=dam http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dam definition is all well but it doesn't give a damn about what runs on top ;-) Can I have waterway=dam highway=* ? I feel like Osmose hides nearby ready to jump. The actual case I meet is one of a dam incorrectly tagged as a bridge. And I inherit a menagerie of highway related attributes. And, once again, I'm baffled by a dam being a waterway, like a crossing being a highway and an artificial water reservoir being a natural. Cheers, André. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
I don't see how those tags are mutually exclusive. As for a dam being a waterway, makes about as much sense as highway=traffic_signals to me. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:13 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, The waterway=dam http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dam definition is all well but it doesn't give a damn about what runs on top ;-) Can I have waterway=dam highway=* ? I feel like Osmose hides nearby ready to jump. The actual case I meet is one of a dam incorrectly tagged as a bridge. And I inherit a menagerie of highway related attributes. And, once again, I'm baffled by a dam being a waterway, like a crossing being a highway and an artificial water reservoir being a natural. Cheers, André. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
Am Thu, 08 Aug 2013 02:13:38 +0200 schrieb André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com: Hi, The waterway=dam http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dam definition is all well but it doesn't give a damn about what runs on top ;-) Can I have waterway=dam highway=* ? You could map the dam as area with the highway crossing it. Regards, Thomas ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] waterway highway
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, André Pirard a.pirard.pa...@gmail.comwrote: The waterway=dam http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dam definition is all well but it doesn't give a damn about what runs on top ;-) ... And, once again, I'm baffled by a dam being a waterway, like a crossing being a highway and an artificial water reservoir being a natural. I might just tag that with two ways, especially if the shape of the dam eventually diverges from the highway running over it. It just seems cleaner to have it just be a highway, no? waterway=dam level=0 name=Damn Dam highway=primary level=1 bridge=yes name=Damn View Highway I might share nodes between the two ways (if I'm feeling like a neatnick with no regard for iD and Potlach users). One day someone might decide to flesh out the dam way and turn it into an area for an example look at Boulder Dam / Hoover Dam, which is a waterway AND a building AND a dessert topping. Good thing it's not a highway also, as that would cross the line. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
