Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 31.08.2015 um 12:41 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo : > > Between soil, dirt, ground, earth, and mud, dirt is the worst defined > of the lot, and I would hesitate to use it for anything. +1. I'm against the proposed mechanical edit. Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 01.09.2015 10:38, Anders Fougner wrote: > My proposal in case someone wants to help beginners with the surface tag: > *Illustrate* the surface hierarchy somewhere in the OSM wiki (e.g. at > ). > Right now the hierarcy is not illustrated, it is

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-02 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 02/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > On 01.09.2015 10:13, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> But as a user of surface=soil, could you tell me what difference you >> see between soil and earth (from an osm POV) ? To me, those two are >> actual osm synonyms, but 'earth' is documented

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Anders Fougner
Den 31.08.15 12.41, skrev moltonel 3x Combo: On 31/08/2015, Christoph Hormann wrote: I would be careful here - 'dirt' is essentially a very vague term which probably originates from the concept of 'dirt roads' here. 'Soil' in the other hand is fairly precise, see

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 31.08.2015 12:41, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > If you do want to consolidate tags, "earth" is a much better synonym > of "soil" and you should probably use that instead. It's not a synonym either. The wiki said for years that surface=ground is "probably the same as surface=ground", and now it

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:13:26 +0200 moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I > > will revert any automated edit of such kind. > > I agree that soil and dirt are

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Friedrich Volkmann
On 31.08.2015 11:51, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> See >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny >> /surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt >> >> I plan to change surface=soil to surface=dirt. surface=soil is a >> clear

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann wrote: > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I > will revert any automated edit of such kind. I agree that soil and dirt are different, and that the mechanical edit should not proceed as originaly planned. But as a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Dave Swarthout
I could have predicted this result. A bunch of squabbling over terminology. It never fails to happen and is one reason I stopped contributing to these discussions. Every one sees things differently. It's amazing that OSM has come as far as it has! Just go ahead and map things the way you see them

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-08-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 31 August 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > See > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny >/surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt > > I plan to change surface=soil to surface=dirt. surface=soil is a > clear duplicate of surface=dirt. It is also less popular and >

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-08-31 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 31/08/2015, Christoph Hormann wrote: > I would be careful here - 'dirt' is essentially a very vague term which > probably originates from the concept of 'dirt roads' here. 'Soil' in > the other hand is fairly precise, see > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil > > Only

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-08-31 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:51:38 +0200 Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2015, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > See > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny > >/surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt > > > > I plan to change surface=soil to