FYI I closed this issue in iD yesterday. We now provide a field to let users
decide whether to treat `amenity=shelter` as a building or not.
Thanks all for your input!
Bryan
> On Jun 17, 2018, at 12:45 AM, Bryan Housel wrote:
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> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
>
> The osm
On 18.06.2018 17:22, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Would it be feasible to say that building=yes is a default (except,
> perhaps, for rock_shelter, sun_shelter) and that mappers are expected to
> place an expected building=no on the exceptions?
Using building=no is a bad idea, as any object tagged
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:33 AM marc marc wrote:
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> Le 18. 06. 18 à 17:22, Kevin Kenny a écrit :
> > Would it be feasible to say that building=yes is a default (except,
> > perhaps, for rock_shelter, sun_shelter) and that mappers are expected to
> > place an expected building=no on the
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:22 PM, Kevin Kenny
wrote:
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> Would it be feasible to say that building=yes is a default (except,
> perhaps, for rock_shelter, sun_shelter) and that mappers are expected to
> place an expected building=no on the exceptions?
>
Tags are not hierarchical, let alone
Le 18. 06. 18 à 17:22, Kevin Kenny a écrit :
> Would it be feasible to say that building=yes is a default (except,
> perhaps, for rock_shelter, sun_shelter) and that mappers are expected to
> place an expected building=no on the exceptions?
please never do that.
you never known if the mapper
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:08 AM wrote:
> Personally, I would tag most bus shelters as building=roof.
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>
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> But for e.g. sun_shelter (which are usually just fabric spanned between
> poles) building=roof would be wrong.
>
Would it be feasible to say that building=yes is a default (except,
=shelter` implies `building=yes`?
Thanks for clarifying Jo - I think this is all ok as long as we give users the
option to say whether they think their `amenity=shelter` is a building or not.
For the bus shelters I could see it as either way but would not override a
local mapper’s choice
Thanks for clarifying Jo - I think this is all ok as long as we give users the
option to say whether they think their `amenity=shelter` is a building or not.
For the bus shelters I could see it as either way but would not override a
local mapper’s choice.
Maybe we should start a separate
shelter=yes on a highway=bus_stop NODE indicates there is a shelter nearby,
but says nothing about where it is exactly nor its size.
amenity=shelter
shelter_type=public_transport
on a CLOSEDWAY
indicates where the shelter is. height is not super important. I guess most
are about 2.3m high. If
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> On 17. Jun 2018, at 06:45, Bryan Housel wrote:
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> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
it does not, many places tagged like this will be bus stops and dedicated
structures set up for hikers, but there can also be other places e.g. offering
shelter below a rock
> There are also picnic shelters .. here they can have no walls just a roof to
> shelter from the heat of the sun or the occasional bit of rain.
> e.g.
> https://www.riversideca.gov/park_rec/sites/riversideca.gov.park_rec/files/pictures/Picnic%20Shelter%20Hunter%20hobby.JPG
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>
Agreed with others that for things like bus shelters, they aren't really
buildings, so don't think iD should automatically add building=*.
I've been wondering how to tag a rock overhang in OSM, and just found it,
amenity=shelter + shelter_type=rock_shelter, quite valuable if your out in
the
Le 17. 06. 18 à 08:42, Shawn K. Quinn a écrit :
> On 06/16/2018 11:45 PM, Bryan Housel wrote:
>> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
>
> If this is for bus stop/transit shelters, it would imply
> building=roof at minimum.
some bus shelters are limited to a plastic plate,
it would be
Hi Bryan,
Am 17.06.2018 um 06:45 schrieb Bryan Housel:
> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
>
> The osm wiki page does not suggest `building=*` as a “tag to use in
> combination”
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=shelter
>
most have 4 glass walls. The smaller type in the other picture is more
recent. Not much shelter from the elements in those. I guess that one could
be building=roof, but it wouldn't be much of a shelter without any roof at
all, so I took that as implied.
I have not seen many bus shelters mapped as
Agree with the notion that building is implied. In France, public transit
shelters are often included in the cadastral information, and they wind up
being tagged as building=yes + wall=no (through the import) or as
building=roof (after verification).
On 06/16/2018 11:45 PM, Bryan Housel wrote:
> Does `amenity=shelter` imply `building=yes`?
If this is for bus stop/transit shelters, it would imply building=roof
at minimum. The shelters here usually have three walls (sometimes only
one wall) with the fourth side being open to the street, plus a
I tag bus stop shelters with amenity=shelter,
shelter_type=public_transport. In Belgium they are constructions with glass
'walls' and a metal roof. I don't consider them as buildings though.
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