Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

And we have at least three amenity tags for parkings amenity=parking amenity=bicycle_parking amenity=motorcycle_parking Aug 8, 2020, 19:10 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 8. Aug 2020, at 17:58, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Which honestly makes me surprised we have two

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2020, at 17:58, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Which honestly makes me surprised we have two separate amenities for parking > already, since amenity=parking, access=no, bicycle=designated would be > equivalent to amenity=bicycle_parking, and would make it easier to

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 6:13 AM Jan Michel wrote: > On 07.08.20 23:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> On 7. Aug 2020, at 19:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> I feel like a data consumer unable to deal with access tagging is > already broken in advance. > > although we already use access like tags

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 08.08.20 15:30, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Aug 2020, at 14:48, Jan Michel wrote: amenity=parking + vehicle=no + motorcycle=yes + kick_scooter(*)=ye this doesn’t allow for bicycles to be parked. It also doesn’t seem to be a subtype of parking. If it would be just

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2020, at 14:48, Jan Michel wrote: > >> features, either bicycle or motorcycle and scooter parkings. > > > I already proposed two options. You didn't like either. > > amenity=parking + vehicle=no + motorcycle=yes + kick_scooter(*)=ye this doesn’t allow for

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 08.08.20 14:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 8. Aug 2020, at 13:46, Jan Michel wrote: If I just enter 'scooter parking' into Google Image Search, I find plenty examples of designated parking areas for both bicycles and scooters combined. There are also some moped/mofa parkings that allow

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 8. Aug 2020, at 13:46, Jan Michel wrote: > > If I just enter 'scooter parking' into Google Image Search, I find plenty > examples of designated parking areas for both bicycles and scooters combined. > There are also some moped/mofa parkings that allow (kick-)scooters

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 07.08.20 23:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 7. Aug 2020, at 17:57, Jan Michel wrote: I propose to not introduce new top-level keys because they are not flexible enough. I'm very well aware that we have parking, bicycle_parking and motorcycle_parking already, but it

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

At least one in Poland are described as parking, and at least in theory anyone may park an electric scooter there, including private one. Aug 8, 2020, 03:01 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > Just to open a different semantic can of worms concerning the spots these > hire "scooters" are left ... :-)

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

Just to open a different semantic can of worms concerning the spots these hire "scooters" are left ... :-) Are they "parked"? To me, I "park" my car in a parking space, come back to it after shopping & drive home, or I "park" my bicycle in a rack at the beach, wrap a chain around the wheel, then

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 7. Aug 2020, at 20:14, Jan Michel wrote: > > It might be useful to have two different top-level amenity tags for parking > lots for large and small vehicles, but not one tag for every type of vehicle. I would say it depends on the kind of parkings that are to be

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 7. Aug 2020, at 19:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I feel like a data consumer unable to deal with access tagging is already > broken in advance. although we already use access like tags for parkings it should be noted that being allowed to access is different to being

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

sent from a phone > On 7. Aug 2020, at 17:57, Jan Michel wrote: > > I propose to not introduce new top-level keys because they are not flexible > enough. I'm very well aware that we have parking, bicycle_parking and > motorcycle_parking already, but it just doesn't scale with the amount of

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 07/08/2020 11.55, Jan Michel wrote: Note that we also lack a proper way to tag parking lots for trucks. This sounds like a good candidate for expanding capacity:* / parking_space=*, at least in the case of mixed-use lots. In general, I agree it would be good to have a better way to tag

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 07.08.20 19:09, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: Aug 7, 2020, 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org : On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:27 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Aug 7, 2020, 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:27 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > amenity=parking + vehicle=no +

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

TLDR: electric_kick_scooter seems best and I will probably use it if no better alternative will appear Aug 7, 2020, 17:55 by j...@mueschelsoft.de: > Hi, > I agree that we need some way to tag those parking spaces and in general > parking spaces for specific types of vehicles. > I have two

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

Aug 7, 2020, 18:05 by ba...@ursamundi.org: > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:27 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <> > tagging@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> amenity=parking + vehicle=no + electric_scooter=yes >> seems like a terrible idea to me >> > > Why?  That's actually pretty good. 

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 3:27 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > amenity=parking + vehicle=no + electric_scooter=yes > seems like a terrible idea to me > Why? That's actually pretty good. amenity=parking is for motor vehicle parking, electric scooters are a

Re: [Tagging] Electric scooter parking

On 07/08/2020 04.27, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Electric scooter parkings started to appear in Poland. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ParkingHulajn%C3%B3g.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Parking_Hulajnogi.jpg (text on traffic sign is "electric scooters") How it