Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 24/05/11 00:49, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: [...] the landuse values describing built-up space should usually not be split below plot size. I'll read that as another vote against small landuse plots, but again: there's nothing in the wiki explaining this fact, and in fact landuse is regularly

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
If there would be a consensus on only using landuse=* tags on bigger surfaces (and not for single houses), the use of residential=garden or garden=residential should be possible without it being in a landuse=residential area. In Belgium, the spatial planning is worthless and there are lots of

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 24/05/11 10:09, Sander Deryckere wrote: [...] there are lots of buildings (normal houses, not farms) that stand in the middle of a farmland [...] I do not have a strict opinion whether it should be residential=garden or garden=residential, but as the first one sounds like a

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
Thanks for the feedback, everyone! I think a plan is emerging, and I've updated http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure%3Dgarden#Deprecate_this_for_private.2C_residential_gardens.3F with the pros and cons of the suggested alternative schemes as I understand them. Right now it looks

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 24/05/2011 10:39, Andrew Chadwick (lists) a écrit : On 24/05/11 00:49, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: [...] the landuse values describing built-up space should usually not be split below plot size. I'll read that as another vote against small landuse plots, but again: there's nothing in the

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 24/05/11 10:57, Vincent Pottier wrote: I'd rather use the residential=garden as it may start a set of values to describe sub-polygons in a landuse residential. here http://osm.org/go/0CUOvbQ1-- is a suburb I would improve, there are grass areas, parkings between buildings. You have

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-24 Thread Stephen Hope
On 24 May 2011 20:23, Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com wrote: There's a need to address the meanings of overlapping landuses or possibly even areas generally that I don't really wish to address in something as simple as a rewording of the docs for gardens. There's not

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Jo
Sounds good to me. Polyglot 2011/5/23 Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is at

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Craig Wallace
On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is at

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 23/05/11 13:17, Craig Wallace wrote: Though I think it would be simpler to just tag them as residential=garden, without the landuse tag. Usually you would have landuse=residential around the whole area, then map individual gardens and houses etc within that. No need to use two tags when

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 23/05/2011 14:17, Craig Wallace a écrit : On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging private residential gardens. The talk page entry is

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Tobias Knerr
Andrew Chadwick wrote: landuse=residential residential=garden This implies that the landuse=residential tag would be used on smale-scale structures, which I believe should not be done. landuses are large-scale areas. When you create a landuse polygon for an individual building or

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread fly
Am 23.05.2011 14:57, schrieb Vincent Pottier: Le 23/05/2011 14:17, Craig Wallace a écrit : On 23/05/2011 12:15, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: I'm suggesting that we remove the language on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgarden which recommends leisure=garden for tagging

Re: [Tagging] Residential gardens: deprecate leisure=garden, suggest alternative

2011-05-23 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 23/05/11 14:13, Tobias Knerr wrote: Andrew Chadwick wrote: landuse=residential residential=garden This implies that the landuse=residential tag would be used on smale-scale structures, which I believe should not be done. landuses are large-scale areas. Hmm.