On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 at 07:56, Alan Mackie wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> > On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
>> > I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border
>> > checkpoints when you enter or leave the area?
>>
>> around
On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 at 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
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> > I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border
> checkpoints when you enter or leave the area?
>
>
> around here, no, but neither are there border checkpoints at
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> On 1. Aug 2020, at 17:20, Alan Mackie wrote:
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> I don't know how I'd map this. Do you have to pass through border checkpoints
> when you enter or leave the area?
around here, no, but neither are there border checkpoints at the border of the
main territory, you just
On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 at 19:56, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:07 PM Alan Mackie wrote:
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>> Many if not most of the entities mentioned in this discussion as being
>> candidates for "admin level above country" do have geographic reach
>> encompassing multiple countries, but are
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:07 PM Alan Mackie wrote:
> Many if not most of the entities mentioned in this discussion as being
> candidates for "admin level above country" do have geographic reach
> encompassing multiple countries, but are also limited in scope, often
> severely. To tag such a
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 19:59, Phake Nick wrote:
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> 在 2020年7月31日週五 00:24，Alan Mackie 寫道：
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>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer
>> wrote:
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>>> Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie <
>>> aamac...@gmail.com>:
>>>
This is why I suggested that the
在 2020年7月31日週五 00:24，Alan Mackie 寫道：
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> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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>> Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie <
>> aamac...@gmail.com>:
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>>> This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably
>>> be to re-tag all
Martin Koppenhoefer:
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>> On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:04, Frederik Ramm wrote:
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>> To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a
>> higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have
>> decided to contractually transfer some
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie >:
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>> This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably
>> be to re-tag all existing admin_level=2 with admin_level=1 except for the
>> EU ones as there are
30 Jul 2020, 14:33 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl:
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> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
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>>> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
>>> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive,
Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie :
> This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably be
> to re-tag all existing admin_level=2 with admin_level=1 except for the EU
> ones as there are far fewer elements to be updated. Arbitrarily deciding
> that the
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 15:02, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2020-07-30 15:05, Alan Mackie wrote:
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> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote:
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>> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:You might not like it, but the
>> EU is already a super-state that acts as one, with a federation of
On 2020-07-30 15:05, Alan Mackie wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote:
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>> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:You might not like it, but the EU
>> is already a super-state that acts as one, with a federation of states
>> below. I know the whole idea of a "United
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:33, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:41, Alan Mackie wrote:
> >
> > To me pooling resources does not generate a higher level entity, it
> rearranges existing ones. If the EU does become the "final decider" across
> all
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> On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:41, Alan Mackie wrote:
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> To me pooling resources does not generate a higher level entity, it
> rearranges existing ones. If the EU does become the "final decider" across
> all branches of government, then to me it becomes the admin_level=2 entity
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> On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:04, Frederik Ramm wrote:
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> To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a
> higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have
> decided to contractually transfer some rights and responsibilities to
> the
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
>
> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament
> and
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:05, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
> > The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
> > of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament
> > and justicial branches impacting citizens
On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
>
>> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
>> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament
>> and justicial branches impacting citizens directly.
age Subject: Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?From: Frederik Ramm To: tagging@openstreetmap.orgCC: Hi,On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes> of a governmental administrative body - with the
Hi,
On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote:
> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes
> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament
> and justicial branches impacting citizens directly.
To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel
IMO the logic behind putting the EU as admin_level=1 would have meant that
the United States of America, the USSR and Australia would have been made
admin_level=1 when they were formed from their preceding entities (if OSM
had existed at those times).
I would suggest that contrary to the
Hi,
On 30.07.20 11:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
> Unlike such objects EU has (AFAIK) well defined border, matching
> existing administrative boundaries, so problems inherent in
> mapping fuzzy objects are not present.
I'm not an expert on international treaties but I believe that if
Jul 30, 2020, 09:44 by frede...@remote.org:
> in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many
> parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to
> form the EU.
>
EU is in a weird state where it is sort of organization of countries
sort of
On 30/07/2020 09:44, Frederik Ramm wrote:
in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many
parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to
form the EU.
The Treaty of Lisbon gave the EU it's own “legal personality”, so the
EU, as a body itself is now
Hi,
in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many
parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to
form the EU.
I would therefore object to mapping the EU as an entity with a boundary;
instead, if it were mapped, I would expect it to be a relation of
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