Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
sorry, didn't see your email earlier. On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:27:03AM +0100, Andreas Goss wrote: The club page seems to suggest that club=sport + sport=cycling type tagging should be used for competitive sports. Which in my optinion is a bad idea, too. There is really no generel

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-24 13:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: According to the approved http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Club chess has an own club=chess, as has fishing, automobile, hiking - all of which can be either leisure type or sport type activities. I think

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:13:07PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-11-24 13:57 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: According to the approved http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Club chess has an own club=chess, as has fishing, automobile, hiking - all of

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Colin Smale
Let's look at the entity relations in play here. Surely a club IS an organisation, not a building. The club MAY USE one or more buildings, and MAY OWN one or more buildings. A club HAS a contact address, HAS members, HAS a board etc etc. So following the rules of one object, one set of tags,

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:53:32PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: Let's look at the entity relations in play here. Surely a club IS an organisation, not a building. The club MAY USE one or more buildings, and MAY OWN one or more buildings. A club HAS a contact address, HAS members, HAS a board

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-11-08 Thread Andreas Goss
The club page seems to suggest that club=sport + sport=cycling type tagging should be used for competitive sports. Which in my optinion is a bad idea, too. There is really no generel agreement as far as I know that club=sport is for competitive stuff only. I also don't think it's a good idea,

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 03:42:35PM +0200, Andreas Goss wrote: Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? Just saw this on scuba diving: Should be used to mark a place for scuba diving, preferably as an attribute of natural=beach, natural=stone natural=cliff

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some expansion. compressor=yes/no To indicate whether there is air available to refill tanks or not. recompression_chamber=yes/no To indicate if there is a recompression chamber on-site. Other possible facilities, are diving schools,

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread Richard Z.
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:46:45PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some expansion. compressor=yes/no To indicate whether there is air available to refill tanks or not. this would be mostly covered by

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-23 Thread phil
On Thu Oct 23 2014 14:03:57 GMT+0100 (BST), Richard Z. wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:46:45PM +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: I like this tagging, but as an ex-diver I do feel it needs some expansion. compressor=yes/no To indicate whether there is air available to refill tanks or not.

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-21 2:04 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: +1 for leisure=scuba_diving_attraction or better yet, leisure=divespot and define the attraction or divespot further with subkeys I prefer leisure=divespot or dive_spot (?) or leisure=dive_site This could still be coupled

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-18 15:42 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de: Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Andreas Goss
would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2 days... Using sport=scuba_diving for a dive spot. That would be like using sport=soccer for a soccer field without using leisure=pitch. And

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-10-20 19:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de: would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2 days... Using sport=scuba_diving for a dive spot. That would be like using

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Simon Poole
Am 20.10.2014 20:37, schrieb Janko Mihelić: What people probably want to tag are waters that are interesting to scuba divers. Maybe we should make a tag like leisure=scuba_diving_attraction. . I beg to differ, there is a fairly wide range of restrictions at least on inland bodies

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: What people probably want to tag are waters that are interesting to scuba divers. Maybe we should make a tag like leisure=scuba_diving_attraction. I haven't followed this thread but Janko's comment reminded me that of

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Yves
Leisure=scuba_diving would be ok to me. Let the divers refine the particular attraction according to their practice. Le 20 octobre 2014 22:19:14 CEST, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us a écrit : On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: What people probably

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

2014-10-20 Thread Dave Swarthout
+1 for leisure=scuba_diving_attraction or better yet, leisure=divespot and define the attraction or divespot further with subkeys On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:18 AM, Yves yve...@gmail.com wrote: Leisure=scuba_diving would be ok to me. Let the divers refine the particular attraction according to