Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Sun, Mar 05, 2023 at 05:31:27PM -0500, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: > My understanding is that the shared part is at least 10Gbit for each > segment. Not sure how many houses would share one segment. > > I still expect a fiber connection to be faster than my 25Mbit DSL > connection. And

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 09:37:10AM -0500, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: > Feel free to correct me but I believe that all the "optical" and co-axial > cable based services are shared(GPON). What internet isn't these days? My current 25Mbit DSL link goes to a box a few hundred meters down the street

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-05 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 09:56:06AM -0500, James Knott via talk wrote: > Actually, they're up to 8 Gb. Hmm, they do in fact offer 8Gbit at that location, starting at $400/month versus $125/month for 2.5Gbit. $400 seems a bit steep. -- Len Sorensen --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-03-03 12:47, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2023-03-03 12:17, James Knott wrote: With cable the all the customers on the segment are sharing the same bandwidth. So if your the first one on the cable you have the full speed to yourself but if your number 100 then you and the 99 other

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-03 12:17, James Knott wrote: With cable the all the customers on the segment are sharing the same bandwidth. So if your the first one on the cable you have the full speed to yourself but if your number 100 then you and the 99 other people are sharing that speed. If you're on Fibe,

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk | My 5-year-old wiring is CAT 6e -- we'll see how far it can | actually be pushed. Oops: it is CAT 6. | I am not sure that 2.5G is enough of a step to cause me to turn | everything over. I am buying 2.5Gbit things when there is little | price premium. So

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-03 11:51, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: The upside of ADSL is that it is wire speed from the customer point to the node equipment is what you can get before back-haul. With cable the all the customers on the segment are sharing the same bandwidth. So if your the first one on the

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-03-03 10:11, James Knott via talk wrote: On 2023-03-03 09:37, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: Rogers offers 2.5Gbit fiber in some places. Feel free to correct me but I believe that all the "optical" and co-axial cable based services are shared(GPON). So you could be sharing your 2.5Gb

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-03 09:37, Alvin Starr via talk wrote: Rogers offers 2.5Gbit fiber in some places. Feel free to correct me but I believe that all the "optical" and co-axial cable based services are shared(GPON). So you could be sharing your 2.5Gb with up to 100 other people and if everybody

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-03 08:42, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: Rogers offers 2.5Gbit fiber in some places. Actually, they're up to 8 Gb. - four 2.5Gbit ports on my recent little-PCs-that are routers (not yet deployed) Yeah I am considering picking up one of those. I have a 4 port Qotom mini PC

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-03 02:54, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: We don't need more that 1Gbit now. That might change in the lifetime of your house. But the wires are the hard part to upgrade -- switches are easy. My 5-year-old wiring is CAT 6e -- we'll see how far it can actually be pushed. Gb

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread Alvin Starr via talk
On 2023-03-03 08:42, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote: I am not sure that 2.5G is enough of a step to cause me to turn everything over. I am buying 2.5Gbit things when there is little price premium. So far, that amounts to: - 1.5Gbit down FTTH from Bell [some folks get 3G, I think: oops on

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-03 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 02:54:37AM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > We don't need more that 1Gbit now. That might change in the lifetime > of your house. But the wires are the hard part to upgrade -- switches > are easy. My 5-year-old wiring is CAT 6e -- we'll see how far it can >

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-02 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: Lennart Sorensen via talk | Well you don't have to have more than 1Gbit on a single machine just | because you have 1.5Gbit to the house. Although I guess if you don't | share with anyone, you want to use it all yourself. I am currently | pondering whether 10Gbit switches are easy to

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 12:57:33PM -0500, David Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > Agreed, but one of our main uses of laptops at work is teleconferencing. > Using wi-fi lead to stalls, drops and disconnections, so much that we issue > each person two docking stations with wired ethernet ports. One

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 12:43:42PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: > Current laptops rarely have Ethernet ports. Wireless is good enough for > most purposes and ethernet sockets add thickness. You can always add a > dongle (USB 3.x and Thunderbolt are plenty fast enough). I have a

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread Warren McPherson via talk
I love the idea of the Framework Laptop. On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 2:36 PM Dave Collier-Brown via talk wrote: > On 3/1/23 13:27, William Park via talk wrote: > > A new machine makes more sense, now. Up to now, I've always built one > myself. Maybe, I should try brand name, this time... > > You

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread Dave Collier-Brown via talk
On 3/1/23 13:27, William Park via talk wrote: A new machine makes more sense, now. Up to now, I've always built one myself. Maybe, I should try brand name, this time... You might look at a Framework laptop, as it's not all glued and soldered together

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread James Knott via talk
On 2023-03-01 13:27, William Park via talk wrote: I've been postponing upgrades.  If I start to upgrade, it would be new big monitor, new graphic card to match, more ram, faster ssd, external hard disk "raid" box, etc.  Strangely, I don't care about CPU, as long as it's fast enough.  I would

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread William Park via talk
I've been postponing upgrades. If I start to upgrade, it would be new big monitor, new graphic card to match, more ram, faster ssd, external hard disk "raid" box, etc. Strangely, I don't care about CPU, as long as it's fast enough. I would be satisfied with fast single core. A new machine

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread David Collier-Brown via talk
On 3/1/23 12:43, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote: | From: William Park via talk | I decided against buying it. It doesn't have builtin ethernet port, Current laptops rarely have Ethernet ports. Wireless is good enough for most purposes and ethernet sockets add thickness. Agreed, but

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-03-01 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: William Park via talk | I decided against buying it. It doesn't have builtin ethernet port, Current laptops rarely have Ethernet ports. Wireless is good enough for most purposes and ethernet sockets add thickness. You can always add a dongle (USB 3.x and Thunderbolt are plenty fast

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-28 Thread William Park via talk
I decided against buying it. It doesn't have builtin ethernet port, and power port is not the square plug like other (older) ThinkPads. My company upgraded to ThinkPad P1 (64GB ram, 1TB ssd), and it's crap. First laptop didn't recognize AC power plug, forcing me to charge via USB-C. Second

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk | If you don't mind a barely used ThinkPad, this guy bought one at a very | good price from Lenovo, decided he didn't need it, instead of returning it | offered it to the community at cost, got stiffed, and is probably stuck | with it. Wrong. He's going

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-28 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
| From: William Park via talk | | I just received email promo from Lenovo: | | ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) - Black | https://s.bluecore.com/Utrkeyg72dZq_0DQf820_NrJxD | | Is this a good deal? The more precise question would "is this a good deal for me?" Unfortunately we don't

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen via talk
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 06:40:16PM -0500, Michael Hill via talk wrote: > It seems like a good deal but I couldn't find any evidence that it was > possible to increase the RAM. You can not upgrade the ram. That model (like most of the slim s versions) is not upgradable. You have what you bought

Re: [GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-27 Thread Michael Hill via talk
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 6:01 PM William Park via talk wrote: > > I just received email promo from Lenovo: > > ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) - Black > https://s.bluecore.com/Utrkeyg72dZq_0DQf820_NrJxD > > Is this a good deal? It seems like a good deal but I couldn't find any evidence

[GTALUG] ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) -- good deal?

2023-02-27 Thread William Park via talk
I just received email promo from Lenovo: ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) - Black https://s.bluecore.com/Utrkeyg72dZq_0DQf820_NrJxD Is this a good deal? --- Post to this mailing list talk@gtalug.org Unsubscribe from this mailing list https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk