On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 7:04 AM BCLUG via talk wrote:
> Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote on 2023-07-04 03:39:
>
> > 4. I see an opportunity for SUSE which maintains both an
> > enterprise-Linux focus and good community relations. Are they up to
> > it? As a longshot maybe even Oracle
Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote on 2023-07-04 03:39:
My take:
2. IBM doesn't really give a damn about Alma and Rocky, they're just
incidental casualties. The #1 and maybe only target of the
subscription-wall action is IBM's longtime arch-enemy Oracle, which
may now be forced to
Giles Orr via talk wrote on 2023-07-04 18:09:
But for the last several years systemd has been rock-steady, and once
you wrap your head around the basics, it's a LOT easier to use than
maintaining those damn /etc/rc.N/ folders. At least that's been my
experience.
My experience too - systemd
On 2023-07-05 08:57, Giles Orr via talk wrote:
... Makes sense in a depressing
way: Debian wants a _stable_ version for stable, and testing is for
testing things that will become the stable distro ...
Huh - testing is called "trixie." I always wonder which toy is coming next ...
Debian
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 23:01, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
wrote:
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> | From: Giles Orr via talk
>
> Thank you and others for telling us about your experience.
>
> | If I need something newer, I can "pin" a
> | package, getting it either from testing or backports. This is
> | admittedly a PITA
On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 10:01 PM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
wrote:
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> | From: Giles Orr via talk
>
> Thank you and others for telling us about your experience.
>
> | If I need something newer, I can "pin" a
> | package, getting it either from testing or backports. This is
> | admittedly a
| From: Giles Orr via talk
Thank you and others for telling us about your experience.
| If I need something newer, I can "pin" a
| package, getting it either from testing or backports. This is
| admittedly a PITA to set up, and I hardly ever use it because of that
| ... but I _have_ used it,
A couple of points following on to 01bigtenor's reply:
According to Wikipedia: "Devuan is a fork of the Debian Linux
distribution that uses sysvinit, runit or OpenRC instead of systemd.
Devuan aims to avoid 'lock-in' by projects like systemd and aims to
maintain compatibility with other init
On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:22 AM D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
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> This Red Hat change concerns me.
>snip
>
> It feels as if RH steers the future of Linux by making so many
> contributions.
>
> - Ubuntu LTS + fresh Ubuntu has been pretty good. I've had more
> problems with package
I was just reading about it - this is an interesting (depressing) take
from Bradley Kuhn:
https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/jun/23/rhel-gpl-analysis/
On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 06:40, Evan Leibovitch via talk wrote:
>
> My take:
>
> I wouldn't go as far as "I saw this coming", but I have long
My take:
1. I wouldn't go as far as "I saw this coming", but I have long
suspected that the IBMification of Red Hat was far from complete --
layoffs, CentOS Stream, now this. RH employees that I know describe a hard
shift in corporate culture. And I don't think they're done. It
This Red Hat change concerns me.
LONG: Some thoughts on what my "go to" distro pair should be.
| From: Alvin Starr via talk
| On 2023-06-27 08:19, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
| > Yeah I am happy I switched to debian 25 years ago because Red Hat's
| > quality was so poor at the time.
On 2023-06-27 08:19, Lennart Sorensen via talk wrote:
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 07:29:23PM -0400, Colin McGregor via talk wrote:
Let's see if I understand this correctly, Red Hat has now put a whole
lot of open source / GPL software behind a paywall, where you have to
pay $$ for a subscription in
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 07:29:23PM -0400, Colin McGregor via talk wrote:
> Let's see if I understand this correctly, Red Hat has now put a whole
> lot of open source / GPL software behind a paywall, where you have to
> pay $$ for a subscription in order to access the source code. Then if
> anyone
Let's see if I understand this correctly, Red Hat has now put a whole
lot of open source / GPL software behind a paywall, where you have to
pay $$ for a subscription in order to access the source code. Then if
anyone uses that subscription to produce an Red Hat style distribution
(ie: Red Hat
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