Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Chris G via Talk
To my knowledge, all JAWS related mailing lists were not run by Freedom Scientific, but, end users. Original Message From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Friday, Apr 7, 2017 6:58 PM EST To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Crossing over to the other side I

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
I got lousy tech support when I called about my braille lite, too. Pam. -Original Message- From: Tony C via Talk Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 6:58 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Crossing over to the other side I just simply will not go back to

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
When people used to ask them why jaws puts out more updates than they do, they always said they wanted to make sure something worked, not just to put an update out for the sake of just putting out an update. Pam. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Friday, April

Re: Thanks for output on touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Linette Sukup via Talk
Where is this video demonstration? What exactly will this tablet do? Peace. Linette On 4/7/2017 9:55 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: Tom, yes, I do real typing on my touchscreen device! True I use only one finger as opposed to eight for regular typing! I

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
If nothing else you can use the demo which is a 40 minute usage then you have to I think turn it off and back on or reboot or something but at least you would get used to using jaws and learn if you like it or don't like it, and nvda is free so you can always install that and try it to see if

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Tony C via Talk
I just simply will not go back to Jaws. I have never had a plesant experience with JFW tech support. I always found their people arrogant and somewhat rude. On one of their mailing list I ask questions, and instead of answer I got comments from idiots about my spelling and such. That why I

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
So why do not ask what might be offered for you?" Vaughan. On 4/8/2017 10:30 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: I would not want to pay the going price for JAWS as I am sure a deal is in the works for all WE owners to get a deal on making the switch. On 4/7/2017 5:27 PM, Mike Rogers via Talk

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Don H via Talk
I would not want to pay the going price for JAWS as I am sure a deal is in the works for all WE owners to get a deal on making the switch. On 4/7/2017 5:27 PM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote: Hi. I have also switched to Jaws. It works really well with Google chrome, on the internet. But I

Re: Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Mike Rogers via Talk
Hi. I have also switched to Jaws. It works really well with Google chrome, on the internet. But I switch back to W.E. and firefox, for the bard page, as I like it better. It's a process, as I've been using W.E. since 1998. Mike www.harmonicaworkshops.com

Crossing over to the other side

2017-04-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hello List, It is with great sadness that today I installed Jaws. I have noticed a few things I like. I don't know the Jaws mouse cursor, but I was able to use it to read the AVG Zen screen and go to my messages within Zen and read them. Also, in Thunderbird, I was able to read more with

RE: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Yes, AI Squared may not have been forced into a deal with V F O; but it was most certainly cajoled in some other way by a series of tricks! The question mark is, did AI Squared see that handwriting on the wall? Did GW Micro also saw the handwriting on the wall before even agreeing to a merger

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
when I listened to Jeff bishop talk, on the Main Menu podcast, I felt like he was all excited that now all the companies - Google, Microsoft, VFO, would all work together now. I think this is what is being sold to groups like ACB and NFB, blind service agencies, etc. To some extent, this

Re: Thanks for output on touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
Dictating can be real "fun". I have to read back everything I type, especially if I'm going to post on facebook, because some words are really messed up - typing the word "buckeye" has a distasteful rendering. I dictate in short phrases and then manually type some words. Brenda On

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
Maybe AI Squared was not technically forced into an agreement with VFO, but they may have seen the handwriting on the wall and realized it was their best option. I still wonder if AI knew they were goin to join VFO prior to merging with GW. Whatever the case, it is a done deal, and nothing

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

2017-04-07 Thread Evan Reese via Talk
The voice speaks whatever your finger, or the pen, touches. That's how you tell where you are. Evan -Original Message- From: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 4:48 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: fat fingers and touch screens! How would

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

2017-04-07 Thread Don H via Talk
Fat fingers isn't the issue for me to learn how to use a I Pad or Android device it is the fat between my ears not being too excited about learning a new way of doing things. On 4/7/2017 3:48 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: How would anybody do that and be able to tell where they are?

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
It means that there will not be any developments, but the Window-Eyes for Office deal will still run. I think the question and response should have brought about some probing for something more satisfactory. It bothers me that too many people are gagged due to non-disclosure agreements.

Re: fat fingers and touch screens!

2017-04-07 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
How would anybody do that and be able to tell where they are? It sounds even worse than trying to do it with your fingers! Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:00 PM To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: fat fingers and

RE: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Hello Joe. I personally have not encountered those problems with Window-Eyes. I am still on office 2010. A lot of the problems that people have with Window-Eyes is crashing, but there is a way to fix it. The way to fix it is to install Window-Eyes with no virus, spyware, or what have you,

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
And isn't that the truth? Vaughan. On 4/8/2017 5:35 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: You do realized that no one forced AI Squared into an agreement with Freedom Scientific? On 4/7/2017 11:24 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: Thanks Loy! I've never ever, in

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Jo Taliaferro via Talk
I listened to part of the main menu podcast the other day and I was surprised at how little was said about the future of window eyes. For now, the word is that nothing is changing. I don't know what that means! I just don't want to get caught not having the things I need to do the work I need

Re: Thanks for output on touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread net bat via Talk
i can not use dictate very well. i have to think about what i want to say then type it. i can not think and dictate at the same time. grin -Original Message- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 10:19 PM To: Larry Higgins ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject:

Re: future of WE

2017-04-07 Thread net bat via Talk
one possibility could be because of your settings in the windows update. i found out i have a option to get insiders builds as one of the windows update options. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 6:43 AM To: Loy ; Don H ; Window-Eyes

Re: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
You do realized that no one forced AI Squared into an agreement with Freedom Scientific? On 4/7/2017 11:24 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: > Thanks Loy! I've never ever, in the years I have been a customer of GW > Micro or AI Squared, heard the loud sound of a coin

Re: making the switch

2017-04-07 Thread Bernie Perella via Talk
Hi, about a month ago, I purchased a new android phone and began using talkback on the touch screen. I found it very easy to get started and in about two or three days I was quite proficient with it and felt confortable with the use of a touch screen. I haven't yet downloaded many apps but

RE: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Thanks Loy! I've never ever, in the years I have been a customer of GW Micro or AI Squared, heard the loud sound of a coin falling on the carpet. By now, there shall have been so many teasers about upcoming add-ons to Window-Eyes! As a matter of fact, a number of beta-testing cycles would have

RE: future of window-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tony and Vaughan, I am in your shoes! The podcast in question HAD SCANT information about Window-Eyes! In fact, it seemed as if the statement made was COERCED or somewhat FORCED out of the mouth of the interviewee. For me to believe that Window-Eyes is alive, I shall have to see either the

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Don H via Talk
Using the creator update WE still does not work with the Edge browser. NDVA on the other hand works fairly well. On 4/7/2017 9:30 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote: The good news is, this latest update 9.5.4.0 is designed to work with the creators update. so you'll be covered if you update

RE: Thanks for output on touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tom, yes, I do real typing on my touchscreen device! True I use only one finger as opposed to eight for regular typing! I have written long episodes by way of text messages on my touchscreen device. At work, I am presently beginning to ring up sales using an Android tablet. I am not as

RE: Thanks for output on touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Hey Larry, if I live next door to you, I'll crown you a touchscreen king within 48 hours! And we'll do it whilst seeping coffee, tea, smoked steak and fish, or whatever else haunts our appetites! I wager you'll become an adoptor before year's end ... Just can't wait to pour that champagne in

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
The good news is, this latest update 9.5.4.0 is designed to work with the creators update. so you'll be covered if you update to that. I have never known AI Squared/GW Micro to put a software update out unless they really need to. I guess i'm a little more satisfied than some folks. On

Re: future of WE

2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
How did you get it? It's my understanding it will be released next week. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:31 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working great

Re: future of WE

2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I noticed the same thing? -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:24 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: future of WE OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work with the next version of Windows 10. That is good news however

Re: a question about using touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
You can get a tactile screen protector for your iphone, ipad or ipod touch. I have one on my ipod touch and ;ipad mini. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:13 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: a question about using touch

Re: making the switch

2017-04-07 Thread Tony C via Talk
My GF used an Android untill just a coupld months ago when I bought her and I Padd. They were updating pretty regular. -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 8:11 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; Joshua Kennedy Subject: Re: making the

Re: making the switch

2017-04-07 Thread Joshua Kennedy via Talk
no they updated the android version a few weeks ago. On 4/7/2017 9:11 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: The reason I ask, it's my understanding there hasn't been a update to the android version in a very long time? -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 7:39 AM

Re: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN discussing future ofwindow-eyes

2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
As you said, not much was said about Window-Eyes? Nothing said if there would be future development? -Original Message- From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:29 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Another Main Memu podcast from CSUN

Re: making the switch

2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
The reason I ask, it's my understanding there hasn't been a update to the android version in a very long time? -Original Message- From: Joshua Kennedy Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 7:39 AM To: Russ Kiehne ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Re: making the switch I have not

Re: WindowsI phone and other non window eyes discussion

2017-04-07 Thread Tony C via Talk
Hi, I understand completely what your saying and your concerns. But, as long as their software doesn't change then the WE and Jaws you have will continue to work. When I first got the I phone, I hated it, lol, it took me quite a while to become even somewht adept at using it. I still pretty

RE: a question about using touch screens

2017-04-07 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Larry, One very important point which should be noted about finding keys on the touch-screen keyboards or any other screen for that matter is the fact that flicking to the left or right moves to the previous and next item, respectively. This is equivalent to pressing the left and right arrow

RE: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

2017-04-07 Thread Yusuf Osman via Talk
Thank you Chris, Rod. I had completely forgotten to check the add-ins in Outlook. Having done that it now works without a problem again. Yusuf I've set up a FundMe account to help cover the ongoing costs of my PhD. I'd be very grateful if you'd consider donating. Thank you!

Re: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

2017-04-07 Thread Chris G via Talk
Hi, Also make sure Outlook Enhance isn't disabled within Outlook. alt-f, t, A twice, tab 4 times. Down arrow to disabled and tab to go and press enter. Next, arrow through, if something like Outlook Enhance is in the list, press space on it. Shift-tab to enable and press enter. Ok or close all

RE: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

2017-04-07 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Yusuf, Just to be clear, you must reinstall the set files, then the Office Enhance, and then the Outlook Enhance apps, in this order. And a reboot is always required after installing Outlook Enhance. Good luck, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

2017-04-07 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
I get it all the time with outlook 2016 I have to open the message first then close it then after I reopen it the message. Dave from windoweyes was no help. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Yusuf Osman via

Problem reading emails with Outlook2016 and latest WE

2017-04-07 Thread Yusuf Osman via Talk
Hi, Up until this morning, when Office updated itself, I was able to press enter on a message in Outlook2016 and listen to Window Eyes read it automatically. Since the update this no longer works. I am running the latest version of WE with the latest Outlook sets and the Outlook Enhanced App.