RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I had hoped that people who knew me would have understood I knew what I was talking about. I had the word direct as many of us did, but were to asked to keep it in confidence. I tried to tell everyone without actually telling everyone if that makes sense. Anyhow, it is forgotten as far as

RE: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Hi, I tried using the home edition of Avast, but couldn't do anything with it. Pastor Gil -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 4:08 PM To:

RE: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
David, I'll be the police watching if you dare throw out your computer, ; you know, I may just issue you a ticket with no court date. Just pay me and we'll both be good. Anyway, brother, nothing to worry about. Go ahead, download Jaws! When it comes to installation, you will need to turn

RE: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi David: If you are running Windows 7 or later, you probably will be safe downloading the 64 bit version (which is the first one offered). As you surmised, it won’t hurt to use the tandem version. VFO will ask you if you prefer home or pro version of JFW. If you are using your screen

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Usually, they put a clause in about not engaging in a type of work for a set period of time. Don’t know if they can permanently shut someone out of a field. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:31 AM To: 'Butch

Re: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
Remember this is just like any other program you download and install. The only difference here is that when installing JAWS, make sure Window-eyes is shut down. JAWS has a talking installer for many, many years now and it is very similar to installing Window-eyes. It's not as

RE: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Good luck. Although if this merger hadn't happened, Window-Eyes by now would have had new braille support in it. They were going to strip out the braille code and rewrite it from scratch and make braille more responsive -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
I would download the JAWS file with WE running. As for the rest, am procrastinating until I have to do it. But took advantage of the offer as a hedge. Good luck.--Matthew Chao On 7/15/2017 2:22 PM, David Crowell via Talk wrote: Hi everyone, Well as always I have not yet migrated to JFW.

RE: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Matthew Dyer via Talk
Dave. Here is the direct link to download jfw. www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws. From there you just select either 32 or 64 bit depending on what you have. As far as rather or not you have home or pro or not is based on your authorization not the installer. Aklso, if you have the

Re: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Nancy B. Gibson via Talk
Hi Dave, Based on how you said you'll use the computer, the home version would be the best -- basically because it's the same as the Pro but cheaper for any future upgrades. I would also say get the tandem version because, you're right, if you need help then someone can remote in to your

Re: Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hi Dave, I think you are correct about the home and tandum selections for your situation. the VFO web page will also tell you how to check if your pc is a 32 or 64 byte/bit machine as you will want to download that version of jaws. I kept W-e running until after the UAC box came up. Once

Re: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Olusegun, With all due respect, this pile of assumptions that are obviously absolutes in your mind is not exactly becoming. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Regards, Tom On 7/15/2017 8:30 AM, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: Butch, that means,

Behind in times.

2017-07-15 Thread David Crowell via Talk
Hi everyone, Well as always I have not yet migrated to JFW. I always like to wait awhile for people to get a new update or new screen reader before I will give it a try. I used to always do this with WE also because ther are numerous bugs to be worked and so I wait until it is all in good

Re: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Bernie Perella via Talk
Hi Olusegun, I usually don't join in on this list but I read your post with interest. I never expressed any view on the downfall of WE but as I observed what was going on, I had a strong feeling that WE was no longer going to be a viable tool for those of us without vision. Having worked in

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Butch, Yes, you and I both know that I was the one who got angry with you. I was angry only because you were making a claim without what I felt was evidence which could be evaluated by anyone. I suppose I was reacting to the deluge of gossip which we are always prey to in our culture. I am

RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

2017-07-15 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Brenda, wouldn't an app like Four Square which is in the mainstream do for you what the Sindero Seeing Eye GPS-Xt you're thinking of purchasing? Of course I don't know what Sindero will charge you, Convention or not; but why would you want to pay much more for a GPS app when greater and better

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I wouldn't say he was paid off, just forced into a situation where had no say in what was happening. I fforget which one, but remember when one of the original founders of Apple was fired by Apple. Reminds me of a book I read long long ago. It was "why s o b s succeed and nice guys fail at

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Butch, you didn't break any confidence when you discussed the death of Window-Eyes long before the fan base saw the handwriting on the wall! You know what it is with the blind: Denial! It's a good pain killer pill and only the brave refuse to take it. Even when Sis Reeva posted Tweeter notes

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Butch, that means, like Dan Weirich, Doug has been paid off enough pennies! He disappears like the vanishing wind into FORCED retirement and an SSL padlock on his tongue and lips just as was the case for certain human species back in the 1800's albeit real padlocks and iron bars were deployed in

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I don't know. Even when he was still with vfo, he wasn't in the talking stuff as I understand it. He wasn't allowed to do anything with window-eyes at all. He requested a window-eyes keyboard layout in jaws and was turned down. There was one person on this list who got angry with me when I

RE: longshot

2017-07-15 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Did Doug Geoffray tell you he left VFO? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:52 PM To: bjn...@windstream.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: longshot I doubt if you