Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Tom:
Thanks for looking into this.  I will try it out.  I would rather try to get 
along with narrator a few weeks rather than muddy things up by installing 
and learning to use either n v d a or satogo and then having to remove one 
of them when I get Window-eyes.  Regards:  Ted Larson

 Regards:  Ted Larson
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Kingston via Talk" 
To: "Bob Tinney" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 


Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu 
Items



I just got around to taking a look at this. I thought Narrator read 
normally with arrow keys. What a ridiculous thought.


Anyway, here's what you have to do.
Caps lock+Up or Down arrow to move through the list of navigation units. 
For example, you can set it to lines or paragraphs. Then you have to use 
Caps lock+Left or Right arrow to move by those units.

There's also a read to end hotkey: Caps lock+M.
All the commands can be viewed by hitting Caps lock+F1. I only skimmed the 
surface to find these basic commands.


Hth,
Tom


On 5/13/2016 11:27 PM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it
that with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator
is going to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:

Dear List:
I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9
window-eyes disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use
narrator untiol payday when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I
can read menu items with the up and down arrows and read controls with
the tab key with narrator, but that is all.  Does anyone know how to
read through a web page with narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[michaeel's mail via Talk]

to read more of the screen with narrator just hold down the capslock key 
while you arrow left and right.


-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer via Talk

Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2016 2:19 AM
To: Bob Tinney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu 
Items


and if you've no screen reader in the mean time, use NVDA which is free
unless you wish donate.
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On Fri, 13 May 2016 23:27:43 -0400
Bob Tinney via Talk  wrote:

Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it 
that with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator 
is going to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!



Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
> Dear List:
> I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes 
> disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol 
> payday when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu items 
> with the up and down arrows and read controls with the tab key with 
> narrator, but that is all.  Does anyone know how to read through a web 
> page with narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Windows 10 and Miranda NG don't get along

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Hi folks

I just got a new pc with Windows 10, and everything seems to be going 
great, accept for whatever reason, Miranda NG's message windows will not 
read with Window-eyes. They do with other, shall we say free options, 
but unfortunately, not with Window-eyes. I've tried the options 
suggested before, which was to re-install the default settings, but that 
didn't seem to do the trick.  Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can 
get this to work? I don't mind using other options but it would really 
be helpful if I could use Window-eyes.


Thanks folks!



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RE: an annoyinr firefox problem

[Charles Short via Talk]

Turn off browse mode, that should do it.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Jed Barton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 9:11 PM
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Subject: an annoyinr firefox problem

Hey guys.  I am having yet another problem with we 9.4, and the latest
firefox under win10.  I'll be typing in a web form, typing a bunch of text,
and i can't read it with my arrow keys.  The only way i can do it is to
re-focus the window every time, and it's really annoying.  Anyone have any
ideas what could be causing this?  I just wrote a message in a web form, and
i was having a tough time reading it.  Any ideas?
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an annoyinr firefox problem

[Jed Barton via Talk]

Hey guys.  I am having yet another problem with we 9.4, and the latest 
firefox under win10.  I'll be typing in a web form, typing a bunch of 
text, and i can't read it with my arrow keys.  The only way i can do it 
is to re-focus the window every time, and it's really annoying.  Anyone 
have any ideas what could be causing this?  I just wrote a message in a 
web form, and i was having a tough time reading it.  Any ideas?

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Re: Problem when Writing in Thunderbird

[Bernie Perella via Talk]

Hi, I had the same problem but then read a post on this list advising 
the following.  Go to the tools item on the menu bar;arrow down to 
accounts;  arrow down to composition;  then tab to the check box that 
says "compose messages in html" and uncheck the box.  When I did this, 
everything was ok.

B

On 5/14/2016 12:41 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote:

Hello everyone, I am having a problem where I can't read what I am
writing when I write a message in thunder bird.  The arrow keys won't
read anything, and Window-Eyes won't respond even when I press
backspace.  The window is maximised, and I am using Windows 7 with the
latest Window-Eyes.



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RE: google browser

[Charles Short via Talk]

9.4.0.0 works with google chrome.

Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of BK via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:04 PM
To: AI Squared 
Subject: google browser

Hello, can someone tell me which version of wineyes works with the chrome
browser? Thanks.

Butch
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google browser

[BK via Talk]

Hello, can someone tell me which version of wineyes works with the
chrome browser? Thanks.

Butch
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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I just got around to taking a look at this. I thought Narrator read 
normally with arrow keys. What a ridiculous thought.


Anyway, here's what you have to do.
Caps lock+Up or Down arrow to move through the list of navigation units. 
For example, you can set it to lines or paragraphs. Then you have to use 
Caps lock+Left or Right arrow to move by those units.

There's also a read to end hotkey: Caps lock+M.
All the commands can be viewed by hitting Caps lock+F1. I only skimmed 
the surface to find these basic commands.


Hth,
Tom


On 5/13/2016 11:27 PM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it
that with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator
is going to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:

Dear List:
I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9
window-eyes disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use
narrator untiol payday when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I
can read menu items with the up and down arrows and read controls with
the tab key with narrator, but that is all.  Does anyone know how to
read through a web page with narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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Re: Window Eyes & music services.. Spotify etc.

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Hi.  I don't believe so, as most of the time people, at least that I 
know generally use these services on our smartphones.  I know there is a 
Pandora music app in Windows 10 and it looks to be farely accessible 
believe it or not.





On 5/14/2016 6:23 PM, Andrew via Talk wrote:

Hello all, I'm wondering if there might be apps for music services such as
Spotify or Rhapsody? Best to all.  Andrew

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Window Eyes & music services.. Spotify etc.

[Andrew via Talk]

Hello all, I'm wondering if there might be apps for music services such as
Spotify or Rhapsody? Best to all.  Andrew

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Re: Problem when Writing in Thunderbird

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

The only time I see this is if I'm writing a message and Alt-Tab to a 
different window to reference something and then Alt-Tab back to my 
message. Nothing will read. Hitting Control-S to save the message brings 
it back.


Hth,
Tom


On 5/14/2016 5:22 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

I am having this exact problem as well, frustrating to say the least.
I'm running windows 10, we 9.4, and the latest TB.

On 5/14/2016 12:41 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote:

Hello everyone, I am having a problem where I can't read what I am
writing when I write a message in thunder bird.  The arrow keys won't
read anything, and Window-Eyes won't respond even when I press
backspace.  The window is maximised, and I am using Windows 7 with the
latest Window-Eyes.



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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Christopher:
Thanks for your reply.  Regards:  Ted Larson

- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth via Talk" 
To: "Bob Tinney" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 


Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu 
Items



Hmmm, I think it’s true actually according to those running the insider 
builds and even Microsoft documents improvements in their accessibility 
blog.
On 14 May 2016, at 04:27, Bob Tinney via Talk 
 wrote:


Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it 
that with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator 
is going to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!



Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:

Dear List:
I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes 
disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol 
payday when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu items 
with the up and down arrows and read controls with the tab key with 
narrator, but that is all.  Does anyone know how to read through a web 
page with narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Curtis:
Thanks for your reply.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu 
Items




and if you've no screen reader in the mean time, use NVDA which is free
unless you wish donate.
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On Fri, 13 May 2016 23:27:43 -0400
Bob Tinney via Talk  wrote:

Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it 
that with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator 
is going to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!



Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
> Dear List:
> I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes 
> disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol 
> payday when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu 
> items with the up and down arrows and read controls with the tab key 
> with narrator, but that is all.  Does anyone know how to read through a 
> web page with narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson

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Re: Problem when Writing in Thunderbird

[Jed Barton via Talk]

I am having this exact problem as well, frustrating to say the least. 
I'm running windows 10, we 9.4, and the latest TB.


On 5/14/2016 12:41 PM, Samuel Wilkins via Talk wrote:

Hello everyone, I am having a problem where I can't read what I am
writing when I write a message in thunder bird.  The arrow keys won't
read anything, and Window-Eyes won't respond even when I press
backspace.  The window is maximised, and I am using Windows 7 with the
latest Window-Eyes.



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notifications

[Charles Short via Talk]

Hello, Window-Eyes isn't reading the notifications wenever Ii plug in my
speakers?  How do I fix this problem, system restore?


Charlie Short


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E-mail issue fixed

[Karyn Campbell via Talk]

Hello all,

Last night I warned about the windows tif filter and Outlook.  Well, my
husband fixd my Outlook issue by replacing the set file. It is now reading
as it is supposed to.

Jus thought you would want to know.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com and likely Viper
Antivirus on both machines.
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as well as Assuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with Office 2013
and I.E. 11 as default browser and Viper Antivirus on boht machines.


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RE: opening attachments in outlook 2016

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Charlie,

Try Control-Alt-A.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Charles Short via Talk
Sent: May 12, 2016 8:54 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: opening attachments in outlook 2016

Hello, whenever I press alt and the number 7 to open an attachment,
Window-Eyes says attachments not found.  Is there a different shortcut
command that I should use?


Charlie Short


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RE: audio got crunchy with windows 10

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Was the audio able to  be eaten?  Lol sorry couldn't resist crunchy?  I had
to lol.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:12 PM
To: Davy Cuppens; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: audio got crunchy with windows 10

what do you mean by crunchy?
one thing you may have to do is to go into the control panel and sound. then
to your default sound device. then to to the enhancements control tab and
turn off all enhancements. then your synth will be easier to understand.


-Original Message-
From: Davy Cuppens via Talk
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:12 AM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

I had to go back to win7 too because my audio got crunchy.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:27 PM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

I upgraded to windows 10 but had to revert back to windows 7 after about 5
days because two programs I use on a daily basis would not work properly.
The OS itself seem to work very well.I will probably go back to win 10 when
I find programs to take the place of the two that did not work well.
  - Original Message -
  From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
  To: Evan Reese ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:12 PM
  Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10


  I have used everything from 95, to 10. The worst out of all of those
operating systems, was Windows Vista.
  If you did have to get a new computer, I can help you with windows 10.

  Sent from my iPhone

  > On May 13, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Evan Reese via Talk
 wrote:
  >
  > Well, in your case, I would have done what you did. If I needed a new
computer now, (and I sure hope I don't, as this one is only two years old),
then of course I would get one with Windows 10 on it.
  > Evan
  >
  > -Original Message- From: RJ Sandefur via Talk
  > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:07 PM
  > To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  > Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
  >
  > I really didn't have any choice. My computer was basically on it's last
  > leg, and this computer was on sail. In fact, it was made in Aug of
  > twenty fifteen. RJ
  >
  >
  >> On 5/13/2016 3:02 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
  >> Exactly I agree so what something new is out wow big deal.  I won't
upgrade
  >> until things I want fixed are fixed.
  >>
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
  >> On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk
  >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:01 PM
  >> To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
  >>
  >> Oh, I'm not afraid of it, I just don't see why I should bother if what
I
  >> have is being supported for four more years and it's working fine.
  >> Evan
  >>
  >> -Original Message-
  >> From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
  >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:13 PM
  >> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
  >>
  >> Hello everyone, everyone who is still afraid of windows 10, needs to
  >> understand, that there is no reason not to switch. AI squared, as well
as
  >> the folks at NV access, and freedom scientific, I've made the
transition to
  >> windows 10 as painless as possible. I use windows 10 on a daily basis,
and
  >> have no problems with excess ability. Yes, Microsoft edge is not
accessible,
  >> yes, there will be holdouts for people who prefer a Windows 7, and
Windows 7
  >> will be supported until 2020. However, not wanting to upgrade to
windows 10,
  >> because a browser is not accessible, it's kind of silly. I don't know
of
  >> many applications that will not work with windows 10, as all of the
ones
  >> that I use, and the ones that I test, run windows 10 perfectly.
  >> The community college that I work at, is finally upgrading to Windows
10. I
  >> assume, that all of the Tennessee Board of Regents schools will be
upgraded.
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >>> On May 13, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk
  >>>  wrote:
  >>>
  >>> Hi:
  >>> I tried that link and got a 404 error.
  >>> Kevin Huber
  >>>
  >>>
   On 5/11/16, Dennis Long via Talk  wrote:
   http://www.komando.com/happening-now/357949/10-reasons-not-to-switch-
   to-wind
   ows-10
  
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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[christopher hallsworth via Talk]

Hmmm, I think it’s true actually according to those running the insider builds 
and even Microsoft documents improvements in their accessibility blog.
> On 14 May 2016, at 04:27, Bob Tinney via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it that 
> with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator is going 
> to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!
> 
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> 
> On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
>> Dear List:
>> I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes disk 
>> is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol payday when I 
>> hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu items with the up and 
>> down arrows and read controls with the tab key with narrator, but that is 
>> all.  Does anyone know how to read through a web page with narrator?  
>> Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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Re: How Do You Get Narrator To Read More Than Controls and Menu Items

[Curtis Delzer via Talk]

and if you've no screen reader in the mean time, use NVDA which is free
unless you wish donate.
-- 
Curtis Delzer 

On Fri, 13 May 2016 23:27:43 -0400
Bob Tinney via Talk  wrote:

> Narrator is not very good, but its better than nothing!  Roomer has it that 
> with the next major update of windows 10 coming this July, narrator is going 
> to get a major upgrade.  But that's just a roomer, not a fact!
> 
> 
> Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
> 
> On 5/13/2016 9:26 PM, Ted Larson via Talk wrote:
> > Dear List:
> > I now have a windows ten computer.  But, since my version 9 window-eyes 
> > disk is too old for windows ten, I am trying to use narrator untiol payday 
> > when I hope to get the latest window-eyes.  I can read menu items with the 
> > up and down arrows and read controls with the tab key with narrator, but 
> > that is all.  Does anyone know how to read through a web page with 
> > narrator?  Thanks.  Regards:  Ted Larson
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audio got crunchy with windows 10

[net bat via Talk]

   what do you mean by crunchy?
one thing you may have to do is to go into the control panel and sound. then to 
your default sound device. then to to the enhancements control tab and turn off 
all enhancements. then your synth will be easier to understand.



-Original Message- 
From: Davy Cuppens via Talk

Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 4:12 AM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

I had to go back to win7 too because my audio got crunchy.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:27 PM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

I upgraded to windows 10 but had to revert back to windows 7 after about 5
days because two programs I use on a daily basis would not work properly.
The OS itself seem to work very well.I will probably go back to win 10 when
I find programs to take the place of the two that did not work well.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Darrell Bowles via Talk

 To: Evan Reese ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10


 I have used everything from 95, to 10. The worst out of all of those
operating systems, was Windows Vista.
 If you did have to get a new computer, I can help you with windows 10.

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On May 13, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Evan Reese via Talk
 wrote:
 >
 > Well, in your case, I would have done what you did. If I needed a new
computer now, (and I sure hope I don't, as this one is only two years old),
then of course I would get one with Windows 10 on it.
 > Evan
 >
 > -Original Message- From: RJ Sandefur via Talk
 > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:07 PM
 > To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 > Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >
 > I really didn't have any choice. My computer was basically on it's last
 > leg, and this computer was on sail. In fact, it was made in Aug of
 > twenty fifteen. RJ
 >
 >
 >> On 5/13/2016 3:02 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
 >> Exactly I agree so what something new is out wow big deal.  I won't
upgrade
 >> until things I want fixed are fixed.
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
 >> On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk
 >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:01 PM
 >> To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >>
 >> Oh, I'm not afraid of it, I just don't see why I should bother if what
I
 >> have is being supported for four more years and it's working fine.
 >> Evan
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
 >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:13 PM
 >> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >>
 >> Hello everyone, everyone who is still afraid of windows 10, needs to
 >> understand, that there is no reason not to switch. AI squared, as well
as
 >> the folks at NV access, and freedom scientific, I've made the
transition to
 >> windows 10 as painless as possible. I use windows 10 on a daily basis,
and
 >> have no problems with excess ability. Yes, Microsoft edge is not
accessible,
 >> yes, there will be holdouts for people who prefer a Windows 7, and
Windows 7
 >> will be supported until 2020. However, not wanting to upgrade to
windows 10,
 >> because a browser is not accessible, it's kind of silly. I don't know
of
 >> many applications that will not work with windows 10, as all of the
ones
 >> that I use, and the ones that I test, run windows 10 perfectly.
 >> The community college that I work at, is finally upgrading to Windows
10. I
 >> assume, that all of the Tennessee Board of Regents schools will be
upgraded.
 >>
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >>
 >>> On May 13, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk
 >>>  wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Hi:
 >>> I tried that link and got a 404 error.
 >>> Kevin Huber
 >>>
 >>>
  On 5/11/16, Dennis Long via Talk  wrote:
  http://www.komando.com/happening-now/357949/10-reasons-not-to-switch-
  to-wind
  ows-10
 
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Re: is this site safe

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

The safest sites to get drivers is always the manufacturers site or your 
computer manufacturers site. These driver download pages are notorious 
for adding adware, program trials, etc. It's how they pay the bills.


You can also check for updates in Windows Device manager. But those 
aren't always the latest drivers. And they don't seem to know the 
difference. I one time had Windows want to update my driver with an 
older version.


Good luck,
Tom


On 5/14/2016 11:29 AM, bk via Talk wrote:

Hello, I want to download some device drivers and the only speech
friendly web page I found to do it is, main drivers.com. Has anyone
heard of this web page, and is it safe? Or, can anyone tell me of a
speech friendly page to download drivers? Thanks.

Butch

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is this site safe

[bk via Talk]

Hello, I want to download some device drivers and the only speech
friendly web page I found to do it is, main drivers.com. Has anyone
heard of this web page, and is it safe? Or, can anyone tell me of a
speech friendly page to download drivers? Thanks.

Butch

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Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Hi folks

Well, I'm using Windows 10 and I can honestly say it's pretty sweet.  
Yes, things have been moved around a bit, and yes, there are some new 
keystrokes to get used to. But it's not as terrible as some folks will 
lead you to believe.  I don't think I would've upgraded when it first 
came out, but now I can honestly recommend it to people on the fence.
Make the jump. You won't regret it.  I bought a ne pc with it on it and 
it works great.


On 5/14/2016 7:12 AM, Davy Cuppens via Talk wrote:

I had to go back to win7 too because my audio got crunchy.
Regards
Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 9:27 PM
To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10

I upgraded to windows 10 but had to revert back to windows 7 after 
about 5 days because two programs I use on a daily basis would not 
work properly. The OS itself seem to work very well.I will probably go 
back to win 10 when I find programs to take the place of the two that 
did not work well.

 - Original Message -  From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
 To: Evan Reese ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10


 I have used everything from 95, to 10. The worst out of all of those 
operating systems, was Windows Vista.

 If you did have to get a new computer, I can help you with windows 10.

 Sent from my iPhone

 > On May 13, 2016, at 3:10 PM, Evan Reese via Talk 
 wrote:

 >
 > Well, in your case, I would have done what you did. If I needed a 
new computer now, (and I sure hope I don't, as this one is only two 
years old), then of course I would get one with Windows 10 on it.

 > Evan
 >
 > -Original Message- From: RJ Sandefur via Talk
 > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:07 PM
 > To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 > Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >
 > I really didn't have any choice. My computer was basically on it's 
last

 > leg, and this computer was on sail. In fact, it was made in Aug of
 > twenty fifteen. RJ
 >
 >
 >> On 5/13/2016 3:02 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
 >> Exactly I agree so what something new is out wow big deal.  I 
won't upgrade

 >> until things I want fixed are fixed.
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

 >> On Behalf Of Evan Reese via Talk
 >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 3:01 PM
 >> To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >>
 >> Oh, I'm not afraid of it, I just don't see why I should bother if 
what I

 >> have is being supported for four more years and it's working fine.
 >> Evan
 >>
 >> -Original Message-
 >> From: Darrell Bowles via Talk
 >> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 2:13 PM
 >> To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 >> Subject: Re: 10 reasons not to switch to windows10
 >>
 >> Hello everyone, everyone who is still afraid of windows 10, needs to
 >> understand, that there is no reason not to switch. AI squared, as 
well as
 >> the folks at NV access, and freedom scientific, I've made the 
transition to
 >> windows 10 as painless as possible. I use windows 10 on a daily 
basis, and
 >> have no problems with excess ability. Yes, Microsoft edge is not 
accessible,
 >> yes, there will be holdouts for people who prefer a Windows 7, and 
Windows 7
 >> will be supported until 2020. However, not wanting to upgrade to 
windows 10,
 >> because a browser is not accessible, it's kind of silly. I don't 
know of
 >> many applications that will not work with windows 10, as all of 
the ones

 >> that I use, and the ones that I test, run windows 10 perfectly.
 >> The community college that I work at, is finally upgrading to 
Windows 10. I
 >> assume, that all of the Tennessee Board of Regents schools will be 
upgraded.

 >>
 >> Sent from my iPhone
 >>
 >>> On May 13, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Kevin Huber via Talk
 >>>  wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Hi:
 >>> I tried that link and got a 404 error.
 >>> Kevin Huber
 >>>
 >>>
  On 5/11/16, Dennis Long via Talk  
wrote:
  
http://www.komando.com/happening-now/357949/10-reasons-not-to-switch-

  to-wind
  ows-10
 
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question how do i delete address books I don't want in Thunderbird

[Jim Ardin via Talk]

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RE: Windows 10 accessibility

[desyree vaughn via Talk]

As have I been monitoring windows 10 changes being I am an insider.

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On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Vaughan Dodd ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility

And we should hold them accountable, most definitely.
But they have been making changes, and I have been monitoring those changes
quite closely. It's part of my job description.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 11, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk
 wrote:
> 
> I'm expecting Microsoft to be held to account at the two big conventions
later this year.  Lots of hand wringing a year ago when MS said "sorry" for
not making Edge accessible - for how long can they stay "sorry?"
> 
> Vaughan.
> 
> 
> 
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> ] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2016 9:33 a.m.
> To: RJ Sandefur; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility
> 
> when it does come out i will not upgrade if i can stop it.
> some of there so called improvements  is to block all browsers from being
used in the search engines. no matter what browser you have as the default
it will use edge.
> unless someone comes out with a hack to stop this from happening.
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/04/29/free-windows-10-cos
> t-expensive-secret/#2c69d01d403f
> 
> 
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/04/29/free-windows-10-cos
> t-expensive-secret/#2c69d01d403f
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:00 PM
> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 accessibility
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> They're coming out with a major update in July from what I've read. RJ
> 
> 
>> On 5/11/2016 3:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> It is coming up on a year since Win 10 was released and still the new 
>> Edge browser isn't accessible.  Makes you wonder if Microsoft is 
>> really making its products fully accessible in a reasonable amount of
time.
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RE: Outlook again

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Don,

Which version of Office are you running?
If you don't mind, and this goes for everyone on the list, it's best to
start at the beginning with your situation details.
I certainly can't remember the details of everyone's setup when I read a
particular post.

Thanks,

Rod

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Don Smith via Talk
Sent: May 12, 2016 9:07 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: Outlook again

Well, my so called klunk seems to be taking a vacationand I hope he stays
for awhile

 

But, after opening an email, every line speaks heading and continues as I
read each line of the email

Rather annoying

 

So, do I have some kind of configuration or verbosity setting wrong?

 

By the way, When I compose an email, Ihear no heading speaking as I go back
and read the email I have. Composed, heading is spoken only when I  read a
new email

 

 

Thanks

 

By the way if Rod reads this I am actually listed as administrater

Don

 

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