RE: how do you adjust windows ten volume?

[Charles Short via Talk]

Wow! ...quite a migration!  What you do is go to control panel, look for
volume mixer. ...that should do it.


Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Ted Larson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:29 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: how do you adjust windows ten volume?

Dear List:
I just migrated from windows xp to windows ten.  When I am listening to
radio programs, podcasts, etcetera, what steps do I take to turn the volume
down?  Do I have to figure what player is being used and go into its
settings to do this?  Hopefully, there is an easier way with a few hot key
commands.   When the volume is changed, is the new setting temporary or
permanent?  Thanks for any ideas.  Regards:  Ted Larson.  
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Re: how do you adjust windows ten volume?

[net bat via Talk]

if its there look for volume control in the sys tray.
do not adjust the volume control there. this is the master volume for all 
devices, includeing window eyes.
arrow down to mixer. in the mixer you have a volume control for each device 
that is running.

sometimes youwill see the flash player, window eyes, system soundes etc.
usually the firefox or i e volume will control the volume of the audio or video 
you are listening to in a browser.



-Original Message- 
From: Ted Larson via Talk

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:29 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how do you adjust windows ten volume?

Dear List:
I just migrated from windows xp to windows ten.  When I am listening to radio 
programs, podcasts, etcetera, what steps do I take to turn the volume down?  Do 
I have to figure what player is being used and go into its settings to do this? 
Hopefully, there is an easier way with a few hot key commands.   When the 
volume is changed, is the new setting temporary or permanent?  Thanks for any 
ideas.  Regards:  Ted Larson.

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how do you adjust windows ten volume?

[Ted Larson via Talk]

Dear List:
I just migrated from windows xp to windows ten.  When I am listening to radio 
programs, podcasts, etcetera, what steps do I take to turn the volume down?  Do 
I have to figure what player is being used and go into its settings to do this? 
 Hopefully, there is an easier way with a few hot key commands.   When the 
volume is changed, is the new setting temporary or permanent?  Thanks for any 
ideas.  Regards:  Ted Larson.  
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RE: up grading to windows 10

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Casey,

Windows 10 and the current version of Window-Eyes works fine with no
modifications required.
Office 365 is a subscription service which entitles you to always get the
current version of Office.
For one computer, it costs about six dollars American per month.
I have all these things, and I am happy.
I use the current version of Outlook as part of Office 365 for my email
client with no problems.

All the best,

Rod

-Original Message-
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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:35 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: up grading to windows 10

Hi I am thinking about getting A new hard drive installed in my computer
along with the one that I already have.
Now on this new hard drive I was thinking about putting windows 10 on it.
Would this be A good idea if I am already running the latest window-eyes?
If it can be used meaning windows 10 how well does it work with window-eyes?
Or is it best to still stay with windows seven and wait for A while before
up grading?
If windows 10 will work fine what adjustments would I have to make with
window-eyes and windows 10 to get it all working fast and nice?
Also if I would like to get Microsoft office as well.
Witch is the new version to get I mean witch is the best version to get?
Also how well does outlook work with window-eyes or is it better to stay
away from that for A while also?


--
Casey
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RE: VFO and Microsoft

[Ray Campbell via Talk]

Hi Martin:

You already have an option if you don't want to pay extra for a screenreader
and use Windows.  It's called NVDA and it's pretty good.

To your point about Microsoft, though, I agree, however, that is not the
business model Microsoft has chosen to adopt like Apple has.  However, since
Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, they're getting closer having beefed up Narrator
so you can actually do a few things with it.

Thanks,


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On Behalf Of Martin Brown via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:18 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: VFO and Microsoft

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
technology, in these changing and challenging times all the best which ever
way the wind blows. 

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Re: VFO and Microsoft

[Brendan via Talk]

Martin,
Here here,
Let Microsoft step up to the mark and supply a fully fledge screen reader 
with their operating systems not a Micky Mouse Narrator know more token 
gestures treat everyone equally just like what Appal does.

Once again Martin well said, all the best
Brendan


-Original Message- 
From: Martin Brown via Talk

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 3:17 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: VFO and Microsoft

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
technology, in these changing and challenging times all the best which ever
way the wind blows.

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Re: up grading to windows 10

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Window-eyes 9.4 was created with Windows-10 in mind.  For what it's 
worth, I am planning on installing Windows-10 around the deadline before 
it becomes a paid upgrade.  The deadline for blind users has apparently 
been extended (I don't know how Microsoft determines you are a blind user).


On 6/18/2016 2:35 PM, Casey via Talk wrote:

Hi I am thinking about getting A new hard drive installed in my computer
along with the one that I already have.
Now on this new hard drive I was thinking about putting windows 10 on it.
Would this be A good idea if I am already running the latest window-eyes?
If it can be used meaning windows 10 how well does it work with
window-eyes?
Or is it best to still stay with windows seven and wait for
A while before up grading?
If windows 10 will work fine what adjustments would I have to make with
window-eyes and windows 10 to get it all working fast and nice?
Also if I would like to get Microsoft office as well.
Witch is the new version to get I mean witch is the best version to get?
Also how well does outlook work with window-eyes or is it better to stay
away from that for A while also?



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[Casey via Talk]

Hi I am thinking about getting A new hard drive installed in my computer 
along with the one that I already have.

Now on this new hard drive I was thinking about putting windows 10 on it.
Would this be A good idea if I am already running the latest window-eyes?
If it can be used meaning windows 10 how well does it work with window-eyes?
Or is it best to still stay with windows seven and wait for
A while before up grading?
If windows 10 will work fine what adjustments would I have to make with 
window-eyes and windows 10 to get it all working fast and nice?

Also if I would like to get Microsoft office as well.
Witch is the new version to get I mean witch is the best version to get?
Also how well does outlook work with window-eyes or is it better to stay 
away from that for A while also?



--
Casey
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Re: VFO and Microsoft

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

If you want "free," you get what you pay for.  That said, I do think 
that one day the screen reader as we know it, will be obsolete.


On 6/18/2016 10:17 AM, Martin Brown via Talk wrote:

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
technology, in these changing and challenging times all the best which ever
way the wind blows.

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Re: window-eyes current status.

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

Your copy of Windows-eyes isn't going to stop working after 6 months, 
regardless of what may happen to WE in general.


On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

HI Guys,

I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their 
money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what 
compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content 
themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.

Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for 
myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn 
and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say 
the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new 
screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.

Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what 
will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if 
my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that 
gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that  was 
never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable 
happens.

Thank you,

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

Me too.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
trying to use it after all this goes down.



On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk

wrote:


I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
what happens. RJ


On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:


I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
never to be repeated again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: Anyone have a problem installing the TripleTalk driver in Windows 10?

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

I looked on the sight and was not able to find the update?

-Original Message- 
From: Curtis Delzer

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 9:35 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Anyone have a problem installing the TripleTalk driver in 
Windows 10?


I did, and went to the web site and re-downloaded and re-installed the
driver.
There is an update to the triple talk synthesizer available, but get it
working first. :)

--
Curtis Delzer 

On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:18:28 -0700
Russ Kiehne via Talk  wrote:


Here is what happens when I try to install the driver:

Windows encountered a problem installing the driver software for your 
device
Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error 
while attempting to

install it.
Access Solutions TripleTalk USB
A problem was encountered while attempting to add the driver to the store.
If you know the manufacturer of your device, you can visit its website and 
check the support

section for driver software.
Close
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Re: becky!

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I use Becky.  I just sent my wife a pdf file.  Here's whatI do.
Go to the folder, where the file is.  Highlight it and right click or hit 
application key.  Arrow up to "send to" right arrow and find Becky.  Make sure 
that Becky is open ahead of time.  Hit enter and an email will come up.  type 
in the sender and send.  Works for me with all attachments.



www.harmonicaworkshops.com
www.woodeneyemusic.com


On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 16:43:20 +0100
Bob via Talk  wrote:

> using Becky can anyone with sending pdf files, when I try it comes out
> all messed up.
> many thanks. Robin.
> --
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RE: window-eyes current status.

[Charles Short via Talk]

I believe that youu still can.


Charlie Short

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+clshort=verizon@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Jim via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:44 AM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: window-eyes current status.

And one other thing, I believe that you still

can get a fully functioning version of W.E. with the purchase of MicroSoft
Office..?  Or has that deal disappeared?  I have been using W.E. since 2003
I believe anyhow and LOVE IT! Catch Ya Later There! de .
On 18-Jun-16 11:17, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
> Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You 
> guys really amaze me.
>
>  Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their 
> minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was.
> Sorry y'all not happening.  The deal is done.  Nothing will happen for
> 6 months, if at all.  None of us knows.  It's entirely possible that 
> nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing.
> Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs.  As for microsoft, 
> it has Narrator.  It's getting better but still not a replacement for 
> the current guys.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:
>> HI Guys,
>>
>> I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest 
>> their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the 
>> WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that 
>> nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% 
>> ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.
>>
>> Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, 
>> speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a 
>> lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes 
>> during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy 
>> to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens 
>> to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.
>>
>> Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE 
>> users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific 
>> company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago 
>> when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone 
>> gw-micro promptly stated that  was never to be happen. So now after 
>> the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
>> To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: David Woo interview
>>
>> Me too.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
>> To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>> Subject: RE: David Woo interview
>>
>> I agree
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
>> To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: David Woo interview
>>
>> Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
>>> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt 
>>> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the 
>>> shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good 
>>> luck trying to use it after all this goes down.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see 
 what happens. RJ


 On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:

> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage 
> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free 
> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue 
> to decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody 
> once said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad Air
>
> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
>> talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
>> very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David 
>> will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious 
>> consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared 
>> to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
>> VFO
>> has decided to cancel allfurther development of 

Re: window-eyes current status.

[RJ Sandefur via Talk]

Amen, just everybody grow up!


On 6/18/2016 11:17 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You 
guys really amaze me.


 Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their 
minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was.  
Sorry y'all not happening.  The deal is done.  Nothing will happen for 
6 months, if at all.  None of us knows.  It's entirely possible that 
nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing.  
Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs.  As for microsoft, 
it has Narrator.  It's getting better but still not a replacement for 
the current guys.






On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

HI Guys,

I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest 
their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the 
WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that 
nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% 
ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.


Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, 
speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a 
lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes 
during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy 
to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens 
to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.


Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE 
users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific 
company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago 
when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone 
gw-micro promptly stated that  was never to be happen. So now after 
the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens.


Thank you,

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

Me too.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
trying to use it after all this goes down.



On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk

wrote:


I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
what happens. RJ


On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:


I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   
best

interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
never to be repeated again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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Re: window-eyes current status.

[Jim via Talk]

And one other thing, I believe that you still

can get a fully functioning version of W.E. with the purchase of 
MicroSoft Office..?  Or has that deal disappeared?  I have been using 
W.E. since 2003  I believe anyhow and LOVE IT! Catch Ya Later There! de

.
On 18-Jun-16 11:17, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You 
guys really amaze me.


 Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their 
minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was.  
Sorry y'all not happening.  The deal is done.  Nothing will happen for 
6 months, if at all.  None of us knows.  It's entirely possible that 
nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing.  
Sit back, relax and let these guys do their jobs.  As for microsoft, 
it has Narrator.  It's getting better but still not a replacement for 
the current guys.






On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

HI Guys,

I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest 
their money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the 
WE4Office for free, what compensation they will get I hope that 
nobody is expect them to content themselves with perhaps 10% 
ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.


Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, 
speaking for myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a 
lot of energy to learn and refine my skills in using window-eyes 
during these past 12 years, to say the truth I do not have the energy 
to invest in a new learning curve of a new screen reader who happens 
to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.


Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE 
users, what will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific 
company. After all if my memory serves me well some five years ago 
when there were rumors that gw-micro was going to be sold to someone 
gw-micro promptly stated that  was never to be happen. So now after 
the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable happens.


Thank you,

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

Me too.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree

-Original Message-
From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]

On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
trying to use it after all this goes down.



On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk

wrote:


I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
what happens. RJ


On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:


I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   
best

interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
never to be repeated again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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becky!

[Bob via Talk]

using Becky can anyone with sending pdf files, when I try it comes out
all messed up.
many thanks. Robin.
--
Robin 


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Re: OK, OK, and now for a reality check!

[Jim via Talk]

Well put Ray!

I have always felt that it is more important to focus on the things you 
have control over and don't lose sleep over the things you don't! Just 
thought I would say that I totally agree with you Ray.  Catch Ya All 
Later de


.


On 17-Jun-16 23:31, RJ Sandefur via Talk wrote:

Thank you Ray! I hear you brother! RJ


On 6/17/2016 11:11 PM, Ray Campbell via Talk wrote:

Hi All:

Let’s all take a deep breath and a bottle of chill pills, people.  
Before you all continue spouting off that the end of the world is 
coming, take a look at the VFO Website, www.vfo-group.com 
.  Here’s what you’ll see.  The companies, 
Freedom Scientific, Optelec and AI Squared have links on that site 
to, guess what, their own websites.  I had to look up some 
information this morning at work about the site licensed JAWS and 
that’s what I found, on the Freedom Scientific website.  The VFO 
Group site talks about each company being their own brands.  My 
wife’s comparison to Yum Brands is very appropriate.  Look at VFO’s 
site before yo keep spouting your venom, then get back to actually 
helping Window-Eyes users with issues and concerns they have.  And 
I’m a 20-year Window-Eyes user, so I’m as concerned about the future 
of Window-Eyes as anyone but I’m going to choose to move forward and 
not lose sleep over things I can’t control.



Ray Campbell
ray153...@gmail.com
Blog: farmers-boy.livejournal.com
Twitter: @packerbackerray
Facebook: www.facebook.com/packerbackerray

Join me in supporting the Illinois Council of the Blind through our 
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Re: VFO and Microsoft

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Microsoft has narrator.  Not ready for prime time but it's getting 
better.  Talk to the guys running the development builds and they'll be 
able to explain more.  Either way, it's not up to scratch just yet but 
it's improoving.





On 6/18/2016 10:17 AM, Martin Brown via Talk wrote:

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
technology, in these changing and challenging times all the best which ever
way the wind blows.

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Re: window-eyes current status.

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Oh, all this worrying over something you can't control! You 
guys really amaze me.


 Like lets write a thousand more emails, maybe they'll change their 
minds, VFO will completely vanish and we'll go back to how it was.  
Sorry y'all not happening.  The deal is done.  Nothing will happen for 6 
months, if at all.  None of us knows.  It's entirely possible that 
nothing will happen and all these emails would've been for nothing.  Sit 
back, relax and let these guys do their jobs.  As for microsoft, it has 
Narrator.  It's getting better but still not a replacement for the 
current guys.






On 6/18/2016 10:19 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote:

HI Guys,

I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their 
money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what 
compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content 
themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.

Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for 
myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn 
and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say 
the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new 
screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.

Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what 
will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if 
my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that 
gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that  was 
never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable 
happens.

Thank you,

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

Me too.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:

We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt
fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the
shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck
trying to use it after all this goes down.



On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk

wrote:


I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see
what happens. RJ


On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:


I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage
and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free
screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to
decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once
said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <

talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is
very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David
will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious
consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared
to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
VFO
has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and
concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more
customersBut
existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny
copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal
never to be repeated again.



Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only
driving force will be good old fashioned money!

RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

Ivan Cribb

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RE: VFO and Microsoft

[george basioli via Talk]

What in the world you talking about Microsoft has naraitor which is free

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gbmagoo=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Brown via Talk
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 07:18
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: VFO and Microsoft

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
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window-eyes current status.

[Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk]

HI Guys,

I have this to say, first poor new window-eyes users who just invest their 
money into a new copy of WE unless they do not get the WE4Office for free, what 
compensation they will get I hope that nobody is expect them to content 
themselves with perhaps 10% ridiculous discount on a new copy of JAWS.

Existent users like mine who now are already familiar with WE, speaking for 
myself, I'm now already 52 years old and after I spent a lot of energy to learn 
and refine my skills in using window-eyes during these past 12 years, to say 
the truth I do not have the energy to invest in a new learning curve of a new 
screen reader who happens to be lucky enough to manage to swallow window-eyes.

Last  GW micro should open their mouths and tell us the loyal WE users, what 
will be our options in confront to the freedomscientific company. After all if 
my memory serves me well some five years ago when there were rumors that 
gw-micro was going to be sold to someone gw-micro promptly stated that  was 
never to be happen. So now after the seas are calm and quiet, the inevitable 
happens.

Thank you,

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:43 PM
To: 'Dennis Long'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

Me too.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 10:41 AM
To: 'Chris Skarstad'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: David Woo interview

I agree 

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:35 PM
To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Nobody knows a single thing.  Stop this silliness!



On 6/17/2016 10:51 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote:
> We will get the axe, MAGic will be put to it's deserved death, zt 
> fusion will be killed and zoomtext will be re done to work with the 
> shark.  Oh, have a braille display that ain't a freedom one? Good luck 
> trying to use it after all this goes down.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016, RJ Sandefur via Talk 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> I say give this thing at least six months to a year, and lets see 
>> what happens. RJ
>>
>>
>> On 6/17/2016 10:38 AM, Alan Paganelli via Talk wrote:
>>
>>> I personally believe it's more about the decline of Windows usage 
>>> and as the paid screen reader declines, and more people go to free 
>>> screen readers, the market for paid screen readers will continue to 
>>> decline.  The day may yet come when that happens or as somebody once 
>>> said, nothing lasts forever and the deepest well runs dry.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:28 AM, Ivan Cribb via Talk <
 talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

 I have3 just finished listening to that interview and my heart is 
 very heavy indeed! I have no doubt that in six months time David 
 will be gaily announcing  that, after long anhd serious 
 consideration (counting the number of JAWS customers and compared 
 to the number of Window-Eyes customers"
 VFO
 has decided to cancel allfurther development of Window-eyes and 
 concentrate on developing JAWS (which, incidentallyhas more 
 customersBut
 existingWindow-Eyes customers may be assured that VFOhas their   best
 interests at heart. VFOwill allow them to purchase a bright shiny 
 copy of JAWS with a great reduction of 10percent, a great deal 
 never to be repeated again.



 Forget all the BS about serving customers. It's clear that the only 
 driving force will be good old fashioned money!

 RIP Winbdow-Eyes!

 Ivan Cribb

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Anyone have a problem installing the TripleTalk driver in Windows 10?

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

Here is what happens when I try to install the driver:

Windows encountered a problem installing the driver software for your device
Windows found driver software for your device but encountered an error while 
attempting to 
install it.
Access Solutions TripleTalk USB
A problem was encountered while attempting to add the driver to the store.
If you know the manufacturer of your device, you can visit its website and 
check the support 
section for driver software.
Close
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VFO and Microsoft

[Martin Brown via Talk]

The thing that worries me, is not the possibility that there might be less
choice of screen readers in the future, but that we will still have to
purchase a screen reader at all. If a company like VFO has acquired the two
largest screen readers in the assistive technology market, what does that
say about Microsoft's commitment to finally doing what they should have done
years ago: namely providing a fully functioning screen reader for its
disabled customers. It is highly unlikely that a company like VFO is
spending all that money if there was the slightest rumor that Microsoft was
finally getting itself a social conscience.
For all these years Microsoft has sat on its hands while others have taken
up the challenge of helping blind and visually impaired people find a better
quality of life. Thanks to the hard work of all the folks who have made
Window-Eyes and JAWS the great success they both are, we blind computer
users live fuller and more productive lives. However, I feel the time has
come when it should no longer be necessary for blind users to pay an
additional cost for being able to use the product of a multimillion dollar
company.
I wish all those who use, and participate in the production of adaptive
technology, in these changing and challenging times all the best which ever
way the wind blows. 

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Re: David Woo interview

[Bryan Peterson via Talk]

I certainly hope so. I'm just skeptical since we are talking about the 
parent company of the one who repeatedly sued GW Micro over nothing and did 
the same to Serotech, again over nothing. That's why so many of us are 
worried.


-Original Message- 
From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 4:23 PM
To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

If John Blake is the type of CEO that he is being portrayed as being,
much of this feedback will be geting to him.  I actually believe that he
could show some leadership though, and as soon as practicable, tell us
how the new company will stay committed to Ai Squared products.


There is nothing wrong with a profit motive driving this industry's
consolidation.  How many of us know about the high costs of research and
develoment, the long lag time between conceptulasing a piece of
software, developing the code, testing the code, debugging, manual
writing, sales and distribution?


By way of example: I have been ranting on for ages about the urgent need
for Window-Eyes to have improved braille support.  We were told during
this discussion that at last, Ai Squared will have access to braille
specialists as part of the new arrangements.  Great - I say!  Like it or
not, small, innovative companies struggle.  I am hopeful that with some
scale, prices will drop, gbut they may relate to products that none of
us have yet imagined.





Vaughan.


On 6/18/2016 6:18 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
I hear what people are saying, but that doesn't mean that we as 
Window-eyes users should just lie down and give up. If you value 
Window-eyes, then we need to say something.  If it does turn out that JAWS 
wins, then we can at least say we tried.



On 6/17/2016 1:45 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote:
Oh, Hmm, let's see, just for a second. Freedom Scientific's idea of a 
great

offer, JAWS and Magic student addition for $300 per year, "Using Federal
Quoata funds. They have never, and will not ever, consider the end-user.
Gw-micro/Ai Squared Window-eyes as long as you have a copy of the latest
version of Microsoft office.  Not to mansion before that the payment 
plan.

It's not AI-squared that I have a lack of confidence in, it's Freedom
Scientific.

Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
8656613917




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On

Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: David Woo interview

Why are so many of you list members acting like the end has come.  I'm
looking forward to the future and hoping for the best in accessibility!
If you expect the worst, that's what you'll get, I'm expecting a positive
outcome and I hope that I'm right about that!


Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net


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Re: Two problems with W-E that are annoying!

[michaels mail via Talk]

Hi Tom i get this happen every day and several times a day it happens in ie 
and if you don't wait till page loads and press a key it happens every time.

Ai Suared  knows about it it will get fixed in next version.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Kingston via Talk

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 10:09 PM
To: Bob Tinney ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Two problems with W-E that are annoying!

Bob,

I haven't seen the problem you describe with web pages. And I rename
files in Windows Explorer all the time with no problem. It's just an
edit box. So nothing really has to be done.

You might try updating outdated set files from within the Window-Eyes
control panel. Although I'm not sure any even load in the Windows 10
Explorer windows. At least on my system Default.set is the active file
in the main window as well as the rename window.

Alt-F File.
F factory settings.
Alt-D Update outdated settings.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/18/2016 7:53 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:

I'm running W-E 9.4 and Windows 10.  Sometimes when I load a complicated
web page, after a considerable pause, all  of my keys will say

"not a valid key press".  If I restart Window-Eyes, things return to
normal.


Also, when I want to change a file name, or in other windows explorer
edit boxes, W-E is silent and I have to switch to either narrator or
NVDA to fill in the edit box.


If NVDA and Narrator can always read these edit boxes, Window-Eyes
should read them too!



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Re: Just info re windows 10

[Loy via Talk]

The link below will take you step by step through the removal of the 
prompting for your password, its not a difficult process.

http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3539-sign-user-account-automatically-windows-10-startup.html

  - Original Message - 
  From: Russ Kiehne via Talk 
  To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:37 AM
  Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10


  I just got my new computer running windows 10.  I unchecked the checkbox and 
  It still asks for a password.

  -Original Message- 
  From: net bat
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 9:21 AM
  To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10

  no. you would still have to press enter on the blank field to get to the
  desktop.
  once on the desktop you can set it up from there to by pass the log on 
  screen.
  open a run dialog box with windows r keys and type in control userpassword2 
  and
  set it to log on automatically. this will work weather you have a password 
  or
  not once its setup.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
  Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:50 AM
  To: Kevin Huber ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10

  Along the same line: I just bought a new windows 10 computer.  If I leave
  the password field blank, would I be correct in saying I can start the
  computer and bypass the password prompt?

  -Original Message- 
  From: Kevin Huber via Talk
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:11 AM
  To: Don Smith ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: Just info re windows 10

  Hi:


  While we are on the subject of Windows 10, how can I read those pop-up
  windows that come up every now and then, for instance, when I plug a
  memory stick into my USB port, I hear the tone and a message that
  tells me to "tap to choose what action I want to take" or something
  like that.  How do I get to that menu or whatever it is?
  Kevin Huber

  On 6/13/16, Don Smith via Talk  wrote:
  > Hello:
  >
  >
  >
  > Just letting folks know re my jurney to windows 10.
  >
  >
  >
  > I was running windows 7 and we 9.4 and was reluctant to update to windows
  > 10.
  >
  >
  >
  > So my grandson came and I said let's do it.
  >
  >
  >
  > I am now running windows 10 and quite pleased.
  >
  >
  >
  > Did the normal update, then after instlling, I reinstalled 9.4 of we.
  >
  >
  >
  > It was still not quite and after checking with we support was advised to 
  > go
  > to the apps, then to diagnosis and to I think it was to reinstall or 
  > repair
  > the video drivers and bingo, windows 10 is running very smoothly.
  >
  >
  >
  > I find no bugs and I just have to learn some of the new features.
  >
  >
  >
  > I have a normal desktop, finding the start page is fine, outlook email is
  > working fine, now all I have to learn is that sneaky ribbon.
  >
  >
  >
  > Cheers
  >
  >
  >
  > I do feel  a sighted helper is an asset.
  >
  > Don
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Two problems with W-E that are annoying!

[Bob Tinney via Talk]

I'm running W-E 9.4 and Windows 10.  Sometimes when I load a complicated 
web page, after a considerable pause, all  of my keys will say


"not a valid key press".  If I restart Window-Eyes, things return to normal.


Also, when I want to change a file name, or in other windows explorer 
edit boxes, W-E is silent and I have to switch to either narrator or 
NVDA to fill in the edit box.



If NVDA and Narrator can always read these edit boxes, Window-Eyes 
should read them too!



--

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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