Re: Consistent problem with combo box on bank site

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Does speech work if you use the read current line hot key?

Vaughan Dodd via Talk  wrote:

> Greetings all.
> 
> Hope that the new corporate will fix the below when Window-eyes version 9.5 
> or 10 comes out?
> 
> My online banking site uses a combo box from within which to select a 
> specific payee.
> 
> When moving up or down the list with standard cursor movement keys, speech 
> drops out, but braille tracks perfectly.  According to my display - the payee 
> number is listed on the left, and the payee name is listed on the right.  
> Those who do not have braille would find this aspect of the bank's site 
> inaccessible.
> 
> Using Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows seven installation.  
> Window-Eyes v9.4.  Now that I know it to be a consistent behaviour with the 
> configuration I've just described, will try with Firefox and Chrome at home 
> to see if I have improved access.
> 
> Vaughan.
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Re: Consistent problem with combo box on bank site

[net bat via Talk]

if you used a keyboard you would press enter on the combo box to turn browse 
mode off then use alt down arrow to go through the list then tab to get to the 
next combo box and alt down arrow for this one too. both with browse mode off.

i don't know how you would do this with brail.

-Original Message- 
From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 6:30 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Consistent problem with combo box on bank site

Greetings all.

Hope that the new corporate will fix the below when Window-eyes version 9.5 or 
10 comes out?


My online banking site uses a combo box from within which to select a specific 
payee.


When moving up or down the list with standard cursor movement keys, speech 
drops out, but braille tracks perfectly.  According to my display - the payee 
number is listed on the left, and the payee name is listed on the right.  Those 
who do not have braille would find this aspect of the bank's site inaccessible.


Using Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows seven installation. 
Window-Eyes v9.4.  Now that I know it to be a consistent behaviour with the 
configuration I've just described, will try with Firefox and Chrome at home to 
see if I have improved access.


Vaughan.



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Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

If Acrobat Reader is displaying a page at a time, you use ctrl-PgDn for the 
next page and ctrl-PgUp for the previous page.




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-Original Message- 
From: Larry Higgins via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

Hello Tom,

Oh well, I have a little egg on my face on this one I'm afraid. There is
one file that indeed must be a scanned image, as in  Chairman Gowdy's
letter to Paul Ryan, because no matter how I tried to save or reproduce
it, it was reported to be an empty file, but the others appear to be
textual. Carol Smith was kind enough to convert the letter file for me.

I went to the trouble of converting them all to text files, but I think
I'm going to try to set up the reader so that I can explore the files
that way. I need to find the accessibility features and see if that wont
help a bit. I know they're there, I just have to locate them again.

As you can see, I don't find myself reading too many .pdf files.

At present, it seems that I am only set up to read one page at a time,
and although I should be able to use the right and left arrow keys to
move from page to page, it doesn't seem to be working that way for me.
Of course, I really don't think I want to use the reader in that way for
obvious reasons. I prefer to use arrows to move between characters and
words like with any other reader. Maybe I'll break down and just get
QRead and just avoid the whole mess.

Anyway, thanks for looking into this matter for me. I'll try to be a bit
more careful in my assessment of the situation next time.

Take care,

Larry



On 6/29/2016 10:34 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I'm not sure what file Larry is talking about. But I found this page:
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo
entitled "Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report".
The report is broken up into several PDF files section by section.
I downloaded a couple of them, unblocked them, and they read fine in
QRead. So they're not scanned images.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 9:52 AM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote:

Mark and all,

The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
that's not a typo.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and
I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10
with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.




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On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend
sending
the file to support so they can investigate this issue further.
Best,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:


Hello,

And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.

I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on
Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there
15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up
to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the
file in any form.

I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck
converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to
get this done.

Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Consistent problem with combo box on bank site

[Vaughan Dodd via Talk]

Greetings all.

Hope that the new corporate will fix the below when Window-eyes version 9.5 or 
10 comes out?

My online banking site uses a combo box from within which to select a specific 
payee.

When moving up or down the list with standard cursor movement keys, speech 
drops out, but braille tracks perfectly.  According to my display - the payee 
number is listed on the left, and the payee name is listed on the right.  Those 
who do not have braille would find this aspect of the bank's site inaccessible.

Using Internet Explorer version 11, on a Windows seven installation.  
Window-Eyes v9.4.  Now that I know it to be a consistent behaviour with the 
configuration I've just described, will try with Firefox and Chrome at home to 
see if I have improved access.

Vaughan.



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Re: sites not shown as links

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Linette,

I think the problem here is that no one has clarified exactly what 
you're experiencing.


When you open a message with a link you can't access do you hear the 
word "link" before or after it? I forget which is the default. If you 
can you should be able to tab or L/Shift-L to it and press enter because 
you're in browse mode when viewing messages but not when replying or 
writing. And turning on browse mode when replying or writing only causes 
more problems.


So if you're in browse mode and "link" is not voiced then something is 
up with the link and you have to copy it manually. Just arrow to the 
beginning, press F8, move to the end and make sure you arrow to the last 
character. Press F8 again and a dialog should pop up with a Copy text 
button already focused. Just press space bar and the link will be in 
your clipboard.


Hth,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 3:30 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



Maybe I'm not understanding your message, but I can read the link. I
just don't know how to access it. Are you saying that I should go to the
end of it and then try clicking on it?
Yes, I know this sounds dumb. Feel free to sigh and shake your head.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/29/2016 12:39 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

When I receive an e-mail with a URL but no link, I just press f8, then
right arrow through the URL.

On 6/29/2016 8:33 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Sorry Linette, I don't use Thunderbird. Maybe others on the list can
provide the exact steps on how to copy an embedded link from a
message. With that said, if you navigate to the link and open the
context menu, you should be able to find a command that relates to
copying the link. Good luck.
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Linette Sukup [mailto:linettesu...@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:25 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: sites not shown as links



I forgot I am using the latest Thunderbird.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/28/2016 8:47 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages
or files. The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so
that the recipient sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web
page.
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's
purpose more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click
here to learn more about product ABC".
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text.
For example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a
good practice but people still do it.
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it.
If you want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do
so, but the process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after
focusing the link, you can open the context menu and select Copy Link
or something similar.
HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk
 wrote:




In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links;
that
is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
things like this be put into the browser?
I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am
running
Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
Does someone need to see the message?

Peace.
Linette

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Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Hey Larry,

Yes. Acrobat isn't exactly a walk in the park. I haven't even installed 
it on my new system. So I can't remember the exact key strokes. But when 
in single page mode it's something like Control-Page down to move to the 
next page. I always set it up to read the entire document. The only 
catch is that it may take a while and seem locked up if it's a large file.


But since getting QRead I haven't had to deal with it.

Good luck,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 3:35 PM, Larry Higgins wrote:

Hello Tom,

Oh well, I have a little egg on my face on this one I'm afraid. There is
one file that indeed must be a scanned image, as in  Chairman Gowdy's
letter to Paul Ryan, because no matter how I tried to save or reproduce
it, it was reported to be an empty file, but the others appear to be
textual. Carol Smith was kind enough to convert the letter file for me.

I went to the trouble of converting them all to text files, but I
think I'm going to try to set up the reader so that I can explore the
files that way. I need to find the accessibility features and see if
that wont help a bit. I know they're there, I just have to locate them
again.

As you can see, I don't find myself reading too many .pdf files.

At present, it seems that I am only set up to read one page at a time,
and although I should be able to use the right and left arrow keys to
move from page to page, it doesn't seem to be working that way for me.
Of course, I really don't think I want to use the reader in that way for
obvious reasons. I prefer to use arrows to move between characters and
words like with any other reader. Maybe I'll break down and just get
QRead and just avoid the whole mess.

Anyway, thanks for looking into this matter for me. I'll try to be a bit
more careful in my assessment of the situation next time.

Take care,

Larry



On 6/29/2016 10:34 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I'm not sure what file Larry is talking about. But I found this page:
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo
entitled "Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report".
The report is broken up into several PDF files section by section.
I downloaded a couple of them, unblocked them, and they read fine in
QRead. So they're not scanned images.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 9:52 AM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote:

Mark and all,

The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
that's not a typo.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and
I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10
with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.




-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend
sending
the file to support so they can investigate this issue further.
Best,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:


Hello,

And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.

I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on
Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there
15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up
to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the
file in any form.

I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck
converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to
get this done.

Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Re: turning browse mode on and off

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

In window eyes, it's control shift a.  Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Linette Sukup via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: turning browse mode on and off



I think that I remember someone saying on this list that there was a
toggle for turning browse on and off. What is it? I am using
Firefox/Thunderbird.
Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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Re: turning browse mode on and off

[net bat via Talk]

control shift a

-Original Message- 
From: Linette Sukup via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 12:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: turning browse mode on and off



I think that I remember someone saying on this list that there was a
toggle for turning browse on and off. What is it? I am using
Firefox/Thunderbird.
Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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RE: coupons.com

[Veronica Smith via Talk]

I have also heard it is not a friendly site.

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Subject: Re: coupons.com

Martha, 
This site might be more trouble than its worth. Aside from the 204
accessibility violations my automated checker found on the home page, you
have to go through a multi step process to print coupons. After adding one
or more coupons to the coupon cart, you then have to activate the print
button. From there, you have to provide your mobile phone number. Then, in
theory you will get a verification code to get to the next step. Who knows
what other hoops you will have to jump through after that. Good luck. 
Marc

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On June 20, 2016 11:36:41 AM Martha via Talk 
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> This site has printable grocery coupons. I am able to find the coupon
> listings, and use header navigation ("h") to go through the list.
> Once I have landed on a coupon that I want to print, I can't tell how to
> send it to my printer.  I am using Windows 10, FireFox, and WE 9.4. 
> Anybody know if using this site is doable with screen reader only?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Martha
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RE: adding address to address book in Outlook Express

[Veronica Smith via Talk]

I don't understand what you said, how do you get to the address book in the
first place? Veronica

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To: 'Peter Chin'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: adding address to address book in Outlook Express

Actually when Outlook is ope I press Control-Shift and C which brings me toa
field to fill in the necessary info.  When you get to the edit field for the
e/mail 

Regards,

Alexaddress I fill it in and press the file key  and arrow down once and hit
enter to save it on the contact list.n

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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 5:23 PM
To: Kim Lingo; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: adding address to address book in Outlook Express

Once you have got to the address book, as Ted said, you just do alt+f for 
the file menu and press enter on New Contact or just press the letter c. As 
a shortcugt, you can just do ctrl+n.
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To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:51 AM
Subject: adding address to address book in Outlook Express


> Does anyone know how to add a contact to the address book in Outlook 
> Express?  I can get to the address book and the list of contacts, but I 
> can't add anything new.  It's been a long time since I've had to do this, 
> and usually, I add them by replying to messages, but I need to actually 
> add it this time.
> Thanks,
> Kim Lingo
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RE: sites not shown as links

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Paulette,
If the web page element is an actual HTML hyperlink (anchor element with a 
valid href attribute), pressing Enter when focused on it will always activate 
the link. What you are describing sounds like a custom HTML element that was 
not designed to be keyboard accessible. What do you do when you find a web page 
element that is not operable with the keyboard and inaccessible? I would 
recommend you contact the web page author and tell them about the problem. More 
times than not, they don't know about accessibility and the needs of people 
using screen readers. So, you can help educate them. Tell them to unplug their 
mouse and try to activate the element.
HTH,
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Paulette Vickery [mailto:paule...@evickery.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:30 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 

Subject: RE: sites not shown as links

But if the site says to click on something, that means that sometimes you
can't press enter and go to it. So what do you do then?

Paulette

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:47 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: sites not shown as links

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages or
files. The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so that the
recipient sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web page. 
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's
purpose more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click here to
learn more about product ABC". 
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text. For
example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a good practice
but people still do it. 
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it. If you
want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do so, but the
process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after focusing the link,
you can open the context menu and select Copy Link or something similar. 
HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk
 wrote:

>
>
> In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that 
> is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is 
> probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can 
> things like this be put into the browser?
>   I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am
running 
> Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
> Does someone need to see the message?
>
> Peace.
> Linette
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turning browse mode on and off

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

I think that I remember someone saying on this list that there was a 
toggle for turning browse on and off. What is it? I am using 
Firefox/Thunderbird.

Thank you.

Peace.
Linette

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Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Hello Tom,

Oh well, I have a little egg on my face on this one I'm afraid. There is 
one file that indeed must be a scanned image, as in  Chairman Gowdy's 
letter to Paul Ryan, because no matter how I tried to save or reproduce 
it, it was reported to be an empty file, but the others appear to be 
textual. Carol Smith was kind enough to convert the letter file for me.


	I went to the trouble of converting them all to text files, but I think 
I'm going to try to set up the reader so that I can explore the files 
that way. I need to find the accessibility features and see if that wont 
help a bit. I know they're there, I just have to locate them again.


As you can see, I don't find myself reading too many .pdf files.

At present, it seems that I am only set up to read one page at a time, 
and although I should be able to use the right and left arrow keys to 
move from page to page, it doesn't seem to be working that way for me. 
Of course, I really don't think I want to use the reader in that way for 
obvious reasons. I prefer to use arrows to move between characters and 
words like with any other reader. Maybe I'll break down and just get 
QRead and just avoid the whole mess.


Anyway, thanks for looking into this matter for me. I'll try to be a bit 
more careful in my assessment of the situation next time.


Take care,

Larry



On 6/29/2016 10:34 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:

I'm not sure what file Larry is talking about. But I found this page:
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo
entitled "Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report".
The report is broken up into several PDF files section by section.
I downloaded a couple of them, unblocked them, and they read fine in
QRead. So they're not scanned images.

Hth,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 9:52 AM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote:

Mark and all,

The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
that's not a typo.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and
I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10
with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.




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From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend
sending
the file to support so they can investigate this issue further.
Best,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:


Hello,

And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.

I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on
Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there
15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up
to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the
file in any form.

I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck
converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to
get this done.

Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Re: sites not shown as links

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

Maybe I'm not understanding your message, but I can read the link. I 
just don't know how to access it. Are you saying that I should go to the 
end of it and then try clicking on it?

Yes, I know this sounds dumb. Feel free to sigh and shake your head.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/29/2016 12:39 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:

When I receive an e-mail with a URL but no link, I just press f8, then
right arrow through the URL.

On 6/29/2016 8:33 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Sorry Linette, I don't use Thunderbird. Maybe others on the list can
provide the exact steps on how to copy an embedded link from a
message. With that said, if you navigate to the link and open the
context menu, you should be able to find a command that relates to
copying the link. Good luck.
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Linette Sukup [mailto:linettesu...@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:25 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: sites not shown as links



I forgot I am using the latest Thunderbird.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/28/2016 8:47 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages
or files. The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so
that the recipient sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web
page.
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's
purpose more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click
here to learn more about product ABC".
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text.
For example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a
good practice but people still do it.
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it.
If you want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do
so, but the process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after
focusing the link, you can open the context menu and select Copy Link
or something similar.
HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk
 wrote:




In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links;
that
is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
things like this be put into the browser?
I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am
running
Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
Does someone need to see the message?

Peace.
Linette

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RE: sites not shown as links

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

But if the site says to click on something, that means that sometimes you
can't press enter and go to it. So what do you do then?

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:47 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: sites not shown as links

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages or
files. The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so that the
recipient sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web page. 
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's
purpose more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click here to
learn more about product ABC". 
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text. For
example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a good practice
but people still do it. 
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it. If you
want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do so, but the
process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after focusing the link,
you can open the context menu and select Copy Link or something similar. 
HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk
 wrote:

>
>
> In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that 
> is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is 
> probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can 
> things like this be put into the browser?
>   I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am
running 
> Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
> Does someone need to see the message?
>
> Peace.
> Linette
>
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Re: sites not shown as links

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

Yes, I know.  I copied that, that way, and pasted it into internet explorer, 
but it didn't work.  But for whatever reason, the message about the same 
thing that was sent to the other list had a link, and the link worked.  I 
found that in my junk folder, for some reason.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Nick Sarames via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:39 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: sites not shown as links

When I receive an e-mail with a URL but no link, I just press f8, then
right arrow through the URL.

On 6/29/2016 8:33 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
Sorry Linette, I don't use Thunderbird. Maybe others on the list can 
provide the exact steps on how to copy an embedded link from a message. 
With that said, if you navigate to the link and open the context menu, you 
should be able to find a command that relates to copying the link. Good 
luck.

Marc

-Original Message-
From: Linette Sukup [mailto:linettesu...@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:25 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 


Subject: Re: sites not shown as links



I forgot I am using the latest Thunderbird.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/28/2016 8:47 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages or 
files. The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so that 
the recipient sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web page.
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's 
purpose more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click here to 
learn more about product ABC".
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text. For 
example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a good 
practice but people still do it.
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it. If 
you want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do so, but 
the process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after focusing the 
link, you can open the context menu and select Copy Link or something 
similar.

HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk 
 wrote:





In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that
is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
things like this be put into the browser?
I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am running
Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
Does someone need to see the message?

Peace.
Linette

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RE: sites not shown as links

[Paulette Vickery via Talk]

But what if the links are too long taking up 2 lines?

Paulette

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:28 PM
To: Linette Sukup; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: sites not shown as links

for some reason some http links have to be pasted into the browser manually.
sometimes you can click on them if you turn browse mode off before you can 
click on them.


-Original Message- 
From: Linette Sukup via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 6:05 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: sites not shown as links



In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that
is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
things like this be put into the browser?
I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am running
Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
Does someone need to see the message?

Peace.
Linette

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Re: sites not shown as links

[Nick Sarames via Talk]

When I receive an e-mail with a URL but no link, I just press f8, then 
right arrow through the URL.	


On 6/29/2016 8:33 AM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Sorry Linette, I don't use Thunderbird. Maybe others on the list can provide 
the exact steps on how to copy an embedded link from a message. With that said, 
if you navigate to the link and open the context menu, you should be able to 
find a command that relates to copying the link. Good luck.
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Linette Sukup [mailto:linettesu...@att.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:25 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: sites not shown as links



I forgot I am using the latest Thunderbird.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/28/2016 8:47 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Linette,
HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages or files. 
The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so that the recipient 
sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web page.
This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's purpose more 
clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click here to learn more about 
product ABC".
The author could also use the web page address as the link's text. For example,  the 
link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a good practice but people still 
do it.
You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it. If you 
want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do so, but the 
process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after focusing the link, you 
can open the context menu and select Copy Link or something similar.
HTH,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk  
wrote:




In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that
is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
things like this be put into the browser?
I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am 
running
Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
Does someone need to see the message?

Peace.
Linette

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Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

I'm not sure what file Larry is talking about. But I found this page:
http://benghazi.house.gov/NewInfo
entitled "Select Committee on Benghazi Releases Proposed Report".
The report is broken up into several PDF files section by section.
I downloaded a couple of them, unblocked them, and they read fine in 
QRead. So they're not scanned images.


Hth,
Tom


On 6/29/2016 9:52 AM, Karyn Campbell via Talk wrote:

Mark and all,

The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
that's not a typo.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend sending
the file to support so they can investigate this issue further.
Best,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:


Hello,

And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.

I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on
Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there
15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up
to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the
file in any form.

I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck
converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to
get this done.

Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,

Larry
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Re: AMD mmloaddrv.exe

[Jim via Talk]

Hi there!

Just wondered how long you have had your AMD processor? I have had an 
AMD since laround mid 2012 and have experienced little or no issues with 
it.  I use IE, Google Chrome and occasionally FireFox.  I have Windows 
10 with 4 GB of ram and a 1 TB hard drive. Just wondered what your set 
up was and why you might be experiencing these issues? Feel free to 
write me off list at wohlg...@gmail.com if you have any other 
questions.  Good Luck! And Have A Great Day! de


.


On 29-Jun-16 01:36, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
Using W10 64 bit, latest WE and Chrome.  Also an AMD system.

Each time an attempt is made to type in a web site into Chrome, WE 
goes silent. This happens even before the entire address can be typed 
in. A number of sites have been attemptted but all seem to fail in a 
similar manner.  NVDA has been tried with Chrome but does not seem to 
suffer in the same manner.

 Anyone else having this problem  and found a solution?



Thanks
Neville.

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RE: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

To Karyn's point, I've had better luck using VirtualView to OCR single pages of 
PDF files.
Best, 
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On June 29, 2016 9:53:36 AM Karyn Campbell  wrote:

> Mark and all,
>
> The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
> scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
> that's not a typo.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
> Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
> 11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
> Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
> machines.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file
>
> There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
> Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend sending
> the file to support so they can investigate this issue further. 
> Best,
> Marc
>
> Sent with AquaMail for Android
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>
>
> On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
>  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.
>>
>> I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on 
>> Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there 
>> 15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up 
>> to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the 
>> file in any form.
>>
>> I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck 
>> converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to 
>> get this done.
>>
>> Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,
>>
>> Larry
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RE: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

[Karyn Campbell via Talk]

Mark and all,

The file he wants to convert is a rather large file and I'll bet is a
scanned image as well. I've heard that House report is 800 pages and no
that's not a typo.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA,  karyn1...@gmail.com
Using WE   9.4 on HP Pavilion running Windows 10 with Office 2013 and I.E.
11 as default browser and Asuss convertible laptop running Windows 10 with
Office 2013 and I.E. 11 as default browser and Vipre Antivirus on boht
machines.




-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+karyn1421=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 1:10 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Trouble with OCR on a .pdf file

There might not be anything you can do to solve this issue on your end.
Sounds like you are performing the correct steps. I would recommend sending
the file to support so they can investigate this issue further. 
Best,
Marc

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On June 28, 2016 1:30:35 PM Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> And I hope someone can give me some help with this one.
>
> I am trying to convert a .pdf file from today's House Report on 
> Benghazi using VirtualView, but when I do, it will indicate that there 
> 15 pages, then the recognition will begin, and it will only process up 
> to page 6, but then it poops out, with no evidence of having saved the 
> file in any form.
>
> I am using Windows 10 and WE 9.4 for Office. I have never had any luck 
> converting .pdf files in the past, but surely there has to be a way to 
> get this done.
>
> Any help with this one would be greatly appreciated,
>
> Larry
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RE: if any issues downloading WebVisum.

[Bob Hicks via Talk]

OK, Curtis.  I too am having trouble downloading the file.  Thanks


Best Regards,

Bob Hicks

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+bob=seeinghandassociation@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:49 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Subject: if any issues downloading WebVisum.

Just reply to my inbox, and I'll attach the file to an email for you. It is
definitely small enough.
-
Curtis Delzer, HS.
K6VFO
San Bernardino, CA

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RE: sites not shown as links

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Sorry Linette, I don't use Thunderbird. Maybe others on the list can provide 
the exact steps on how to copy an embedded link from a message. With that said, 
if you navigate to the link and open the context menu, you should be able to 
find a command that relates to copying the link. Good luck.
Marc

-Original Message-
From: Linette Sukup [mailto:linettesu...@att.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 10:25 PM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: sites not shown as links



I forgot I am using the latest Thunderbird.

Peace.
Linette



On 6/28/2016 8:47 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
> Linette,
> HTML emails and web pages can contain hyperlinks to other web pages or files. 
> The author can assign descriptive text to the hyperlink so that the recipient 
> sees a meaningful link name in the message or Web page.
> This is a good thing to do as it helps the user understand the link's purpose 
> more clearly.  For example, the link text could be "Click here to learn more 
> about product ABC".
> The author could also use the web page address as the link's text. For 
> example,  the link text might be "http://productABC.com. Not a good practice 
> but people still do it.
> You can activate the currently focused link by pressing Enter on it. If you 
> want to copy the links address to your clipboard, you can do so, but the 
> process depends on your email client. In Outlook, after focusing the link, 
> you can open the context menu and select Copy Link or something similar.
> HTH,
> Marc
>
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>
>
> On June 28, 2016 9:06:22 PM Linette Sukup via Talk 
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> In some messages, sites are named, but they are not shown as links; that
>> is, the http and so on is there, but they be clicked on. This is
>> probably some simple thing that I just don't know how to do. How can
>> things like this be put into the browser?
>>  I have the latest version of WE, the latest Firefox, and am 
>> running
>> Windows on an HP Pavilion laptop.
>> Does someone need to see the message?
>>
>> Peace.
>> Linette
>>
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