Future of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Ivan Cribb via Talk
I have just finished deleting dozens of messages on the above topic. What is the point of all this speculation Nobody outside VFO knows what it is. Ivan Cribb ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do

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2017-05-07 Thread mcleod stinnett via Talk
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Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
It is simple, eliminate the competition. Particularly when your product costsw more. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 7 May 2017, Loy via Talk wrote: My question is why would a company pay for a company that only has one product "Window Eyes" then shut down the product.?

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Wasn't a program rewrite that was needed. Freedom had an in with state agencies, veterans and so forth. When I was a client in Nevada and also here in Kansas, all they knew or cared about was jaws. It was like a religion, and still is in some cases. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks.

Re: Window-Eyes still has a place - Vipre

2017-05-07 Thread Loy via Talk
I agree as well. - Original Message - From: Jim via Talk To: bjn...@windstream.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:19 PM Subject: Re: Window-Eyes still has a place - Vipre Hi BRENDA & GROUP! I totally agree! I have had little or no difficulties

Re: outlook 2010 doesn't play a sound when a new message is received how to fix?

2017-05-07 Thread Neville via Talk
Thanks to Rod and Karyn for answering my question on the Outlook BCC field. It works great. Cheers Neville. On 7/05/2017 12:34 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Neville, I can't say about Outlook 2010, but, In Outlook 2016, Alt-P, B toggles the appearance of the BCC: field. I'm not aware of a hot

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Many times, a company will buy out another just to get its user base. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 2:27 PM To: Darrell Bowles; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes My question is why would a company pay for a company

RE: MS Excel 2010

2017-05-07 Thread Steve Jacobson via Talk
Tom and Lloyd, I have had Excel sometimes go dead and found that bringing up the ribbon and then dismissing it with ESCAPE sometimes causes cells to read again. If Window-Eyes is not reading a document from the outset, then check to see if it happens to be in a Dropbox folder. If it is, go to

Re: Questions re WE

2017-05-07 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
Yeah and also, there doesn't seem to be any progress being made towards making Windows apps more accessible? This is the direction Microsoft is headed and yet I've found very few apps that actually work with Window-eyes. On 5/3/2017 12:47 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: The future development of

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Vaughan, NVDA and Window-Eyes both have a scripting facility. This makes them customizable to deal with changing developments in software. There are limits, of course, such that if text is not available to the screen reader, then scripting won't help. However, I do believe it is misleading to

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Actually: I did - perhaps not knowing about VFO as I thought a Microsoft deal was going to develop. Window-eyes is still better than the latest release of Narrator. The Office deal was spun as a way of getting a good quality screen reader into the hands of people who would other-wise not

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
My guess is that things just come down to normal supply and demand. The customer demand has always been for JAWS. If there is no demand for a product, its business cannot grow. If it cannot grow, it cannot develop new products. The old GW Micro was in financial trouble. To begin with - I

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
The reason why Ted Henter who origianally created JAWS did it in the first place was that he wasn't maxamizing his potential with Vert, the dos product, and he'd tried other screen readers before that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com]

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
JAWS does have tech support specialists who are blind as well. But the GWMicro owners are sighted as well. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 12:16 PM To: Sky Mundell via Talk

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Exactly. There is an VDA, and then there is system access. Most people don't pay a whole lot of attention to either one of them. Read the book, the death of WCW. But yes, that is where I got my analogy from. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2017, at 3:31 PM, via Talk

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread net bat via Talk
they do this all the time for pennies on the dollar for the business. then sell the realistate for millions. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:26 AM To: Darrell Bowles ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes My question is

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
When Vince McMahon purchased world championship wrestling, he now lets their showers be played on demand on the WWE network, but there are no more W CW shows. I'm sure that current versions of Window-Eyes, will still be allowed to be used, but it does not sound like they will continue to update

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
Sky, you mention the sighted folks at the now VFO, but aren't the GW Mcro owners sighted? I know GW had a lot of tech support who were blind and they knew their stuff and were more helpful than the jaws CSRs. I'm not sure how many jaws customer service folks are blind, but they don't seem as

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
When will office support end? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:45 AM To: Reeva Webb; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Darrell Bowles Subject: Re: Future Of

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
FS always saw Window-Eyes as a threat and I have a feeling that that lawsuit they filed against GWMicro was part of their stradigy to destroy Window-Eyes. That lawsuit happened when FS was under Lee Hamilton. Then, Lee Hamilton left in 2013, and John Blake took over and then, in November of 2015,

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Loy via Talk
My question is why would a company pay for a company that only has one product "Window Eyes" then shut down the product.? - Original Message - From: Darrell Bowles via Talk To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 1:18 PM Subject: Re: Future Of

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Guess NVDA's going to get a lot more use LOL. -Original Message- From: Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:18 AM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes If the company had asked for a donation, I would have gladly given it. Sent

Window-Eyes still has a place - Vipre

2017-05-07 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hi List, My AVG expired and my search for an accessible virus/internet security resulted in me choosing vipre. With Window-Eyes, I can access and change parameters such as email and firewall settings etc. With Jaws, I can only access virus settings either from the user interface or the

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
If the company had asked for a donation, I would have gladly given it. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: > > GW Micro must have been suffering from Cash Flow problems. The question > then is, how to attract more customers. The

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Dave via Talk
GW Micro must have been suffering from Cash Flow problems. The question then is, how to attract more customers. The more customers, the better the cash flow. I have suspected the Window Eyes program was due for a Re-write from the ground up, but this costs lots of money, and can take a couple

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sky, more of us should have a post. I don't necessarily disagree with a version of Window-Eyes like the one for office, but as soon as GW Micro joined with a high squared, and then a high squared joined with the FO, I knew what was about to happen. Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2017, at

RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
This is just sad. Nobody knew this would be happening to Window-Eyes when the office deal happened. Nobody knew. Had we known Window-Eyes would be put into jeperty we would have done something about the situation. Had more Window-Eyes users got together and publisised this monopoly, things

Re: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-07 Thread Michael Capelle via Talk
this is true, jfw is the primary screen reader. -Original Message- From: Reeva Webb via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 8:34 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Darrell Bowles Subject: Re: Future Of Window-Eyes ...and the following tweet i just saw in my tl. Take it for what you

Re: List owner

2017-05-07 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I agree totally. When window-eyes no longer does what I need it to do, I'll learn n v d a. I've got one count left I think, but I'm not expecting any money back. Kevan, if you want, reply privately to me at but...@shellworld.net 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sun, 7 May 2017,

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Re: Speech pausing after a period.

2017-05-07 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
Hi, One problem with speech pausing is the actual synthesizer you use. For example, in the program Balabolka, I can get great response using Xyro Pro from Microsoft, but get no pause at all with the NeoSpeech Paul and Kate voices. Try a different voice and see if that is the problem.

Speech pausing after a period.

2017-05-07 Thread Reg Webb via Talk
Hi all I still can't get my speech to pause after a period at the end of a sentence. I think it used to, but now it just plows on, which doesn't help with meaning. Any suggestions? -- Re ___ Any views or opinions presented

Re: Need Help WE 9.5.4

2017-05-07 Thread Tony C via Talk
Hi, In WE control panel the choice to put WE in the task bar is under startup I think, I believe the typeing echo is under General, verosity, Make sure the WLM app is up to date, and make sure the mail your trying to read is maximized. There have been problems with not being able to read what

RE: outlook 2010 doesn't play a sound when a new message is received how to fix?

2017-05-07 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Karen, Oh, I thought Neville was talking about focusing the BCC field so that he could write into it, while you're referring to reading the contents of that field in a received message. I think we both have it. (smile) Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk