WinEyes 9.5.4

[George Savory via Talk]

Hi Doug,
 Was looking forward to upgrade of WinEyes 9.5.4 to 9.5.5. Unable to
access start menu since 9.5.4.  I am using Windows 10, 4GB ram quad
core Gateway. Have to kill and restart WinEyes to be able to access
the start menu Since 9.5.4. Down graded back to avoid this issue.
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RE: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Pam,

I'm sorry, but this is too much thinking overtime.
Yes, Control-Alt-W will restart Window-Eyes, but so will finding Window-Eyes on 
the Start menu, and choosing it.
The simple fact is that there is nothing built into Window-Eyes that makes 
Control-Alt-W work.
The icon is what does it.

With respect,

Rod

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: June 7, 2017 7:57 PM
To: Ashley Breger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

But in the last few versions, they had put on control alt w in case window 
eyes would crash, and it was supposed to be able to restart window eyes.  It 
has worked most of the time for me.  So, maybe you have to reinstall it. 
Or, is it an ap?  I know somebody said all their aps were suddenly gone. 
Pam.

-Original Message- 
From: Ashley Breger via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 6:21 PM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

What I always did turn on window – eyes was to press control escape to get 
to the control panel then I would press W give it a moment then arrow down 
to. I believe the layout has changed as now I only have to arrow down one 
but I'm not sure what the layout would be like on your computer.
Hope this helps,
Ashley

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> control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall 
> WE to fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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RE: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Loy,

I have found many times that after answering a User Account Control prompt, my 
keyboard language gets switched, rendering me unable to use my keyboard 
normally.
The only solution is a reboot.

Hth,

Rod

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On Behalf Of Loy via Talk
Sent: June 7, 2017 7:48 PM
To: Ian Westerland ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

I discoveries it is a problem with the keyboard, some keys are not working.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Westerland via Talk 
  To: Loy via Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE



  That's strange.  i just closed Window-Eyes and re-started with control 
  alt w and it worked.  There is a setting in the W-E control pannel 
  dealing with various start up options so, before you re-install, I'd 
  check those settings.  Once or twice I have had issues with the auto 
  start but not for a long time.

  Let me know how the problem is fixed for you.  All information is well 
  received here.

  Ian Westerland







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WE to fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Carol and Roger via Talk]

If you can'f find a way to fix the problem in Window-Eyes, try this:

First, let me say that I am running Win7, so the details may be slightly 
different.


In the Windows search box, type "window-e"
You should get a list of items.  Highlight the one that says "Window-Eyes"
Press the context (applications) key and then the letter R to open 
properties.
This should show you the entire path for the Window-Eyes program, ending 
with dot e x e.
Tab to the shortcut key field and type in the letter w and tab to OK and 
press enter.


If you prefer to have a shortcut icon on the desktop:
Folow the above instructions until you find Window-Eyes .exe
press the context key and then the letter n (stands for send to)
Arrow to the save as desktop icon.

Once the icon is on the desktop, you can still set the shortcut key by 
highlighting the icon and following the instructions as stated above by 
pressing the context key and then r, etc.


Carol


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control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall WE to 
fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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Re: Thunderbird message amounts

[Brenda via Talk]

Hey Neville,

I have Jaws set to read the desktop that way (e.g. 15 of 26)but it 
doesn't work in TB.  I think I found the setting in the help menu under 
start-up options - I changed the verbosity to intermediate.  I'm pretty 
sure that is when the deskitop started reading 15 of 26 etc..


hth (if that is in fact what caused the change)
Brenda

On 6/7/2017 8:01 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:
I know exactly what you are saying Brenda because I am missing this 
feature as well.


In one of Raul's mp3 tutorials on making the switch, the desktop icons 
read out their index number as he arrows around the screen.  e.g. 15 of 26.

  Has anyone been able to duplicate this and if so, how did you do it?

Thanks
Neville.

On 8/06/2017 1:34 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

In Window-eyes the number of messages in a folder is read.
with Jaws is there a way to do this?

At least jaws reads how many unread messages in a folder, but I could 
have lots and lots of messages in my inbox and have no way to know it 
with jaws.


Also, with Jaws is there a way to find out "message 10 of 125" etc to 
know where you are in the message list?


what are Window-Eyes migrants doingabout these issues?

Thanks for any help.
Brenda
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Re: Thunderbird message amounts

[Neville via Talk]

I know exactly what you are saying Brenda because I am missing this 
feature as well.


In one of Raul's mp3 tutorials on making the switch, the desktop icons 
read out their index number as he arrows around the screen.  e.g. 15 of 26.

 Has anyone been able to duplicate this and if so, how did you do it?

Thanks
Neville.

On 8/06/2017 1:34 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

In Window-eyes the number of messages in a folder is read.
with Jaws is there a way to do this?

At least jaws reads how many unread messages in a folder, but I could 
have lots and lots of messages in my inbox and have no way to know it 
with jaws.


Also, with Jaws is there a way to find out "message 10 of 125" etc to 
know where you are in the message list?


what are Window-Eyes migrants doingabout these issues?

Thanks for any help.
Brenda
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Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

But in the last few versions, they had put on control alt w in case window 
eyes would crash, and it was supposed to be able to restart window eyes.  It 
has worked most of the time for me.  So, maybe you have to reinstall it. 
Or, is it an ap?  I know somebody said all their aps were suddenly gone. 
Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Ashley Breger via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 6:21 PM
To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

What I always did turn on window – eyes was to press control escape to get 
to the control panel then I would press W give it a moment then arrow down 
to. I believe the layout has changed as now I only have to arrow down one 
but I'm not sure what the layout would be like on your computer.

Hope this helps,
Ashley

Sent from my iPhone

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control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall 
WE to fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?

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purpose of the scroll lock key

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
Thanks to those who answered my query regarding the scroll lock key.

My purpose for asking was that  I am looking for a different modifier 
key for my numerous Auto Hot Key macros.  Maybe the scroll lock key may 
fill the bill.


WE has worked happily with these macros for years and would not like to 
be without many of them.


Since switching to Jaws, there seems to be a sort of clash with some of 
the keys although Jaws does not use these particular combinations. 
Well, according to the Jaws help anyway.



Cheers
Neville.

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Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Loy via Talk]

I discoveries it is a problem with the keyboard, some keys are not working.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Westerland via Talk 
  To: Loy via Talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 6:23 PM
  Subject: Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE



  That's strange.  i just closed Window-Eyes and re-started with control 
  alt w and it worked.  There is a setting in the W-E control pannel 
  dealing with various start up options so, before you re-install, I'd 
  check those settings.  Once or twice I have had issues with the auto 
  start but not for a long time.

  Let me know how the problem is fixed for you.  All information is well 
  received here.

  Ian Westerland







  On 6/8/2017 8:10 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:
  > control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall 
WE to fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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RE: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Dennis Long via Talk]

Learn Jaws.  That will be the easiest.

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 4:36 PM
To: Chris G via Talk
Subject: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down
boxes

Well, pressing ALT at the dropdown/combo box first didn't work, but when I
remembered to press enter when on/at a dropdown/combo list I was able to
arrow through them with Window-Eyes.

In Jaws, I had to listen to a whole lot of verbage before I found where I
was.  I could change the dropdown to various accounts, but it was hit or
miss, and in that area the numpad arrows didn't seem to work. 
CNTRL-HOME took me to the top, or if I couldn't get that to work tab or
shift-tab got me out of the quick transaction area.  It is a whole lot of
trial and a lot of error.

In the quick transaction area Jaws did say "3 rows 5 columns" but I wasn't
sure how to use that info.

I can use W-E for now, but eventually, especially with Win10, I'm going to
have a problem.

Any suggestions on how to use my banking site in Jaws as I do with W-E?

Brenda

On 6/7/2017 2:44 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote:
> Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first.
> That may work.
> 
> 
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>  Original Message 
> From: Brenda via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes
> 
> On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access 
> to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
> Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an 
> application I was filling out.
> 
> In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read 
> and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.
> 
> Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?
> 
> Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the 
> INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: switching to JAWS

[Raul A. Gallegos via Talk]

Hello. I believe the others have answered your questions. However I would like 
to remind you that there are some quick audio tutorials which I have recorded 
to help with the transition. So, if you have a chance, I would recommend you 
give these a listen and they might answer some of your other questions which 
might come up. The link to the tutorials is 
https://gwmicro.com/window-Eyes/migrate

Thanks.

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> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:49 AM, Albert Sanchez via Talk 
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> 
> I am in the process of switching from WE 9 to JAWS and would like to know 
> what is the "READ-TO-END" command in JAWS, also, what is the JAWS 
> "Pass-through" command?
> Thanks,
> Albert Sanchez 
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Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Ian Westerland via Talk]

That's strange.  i just closed Window-Eyes and re-started with control 
alt w and it worked.  There is a setting in the W-E control pannel 
dealing with various start up options so, before you re-install, I'd 
check those settings.  Once or twice I have had issues with the auto 
start but not for a long time.


Let me know how the problem is fixed for you.  All information is well 
received here.


Ian Westerland







On 6/8/2017 8:10 AM, Loy via Talk wrote:

control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall WE to 
fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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Re: control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Ashley Breger via Talk]

What I always did turn on window – eyes was to press control escape to get to 
the control panel then I would press W give it a moment then arrow down to. I 
believe the layout has changed as now I only have to arrow down one but I'm not 
sure what the layout would be like on your computer.
Hope this helps,
Ashley

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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 5:10 PM, Loy via Talk  wrote:
> 
> control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall WE 
> to fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE

[Loy via Talk]

control, alt, W no longer starts or restarts WE, will I have to reinstall WE to 
fix this, or is there a setting in WE control panel for this?
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quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Brenda via Talk]

Well, pressing ALT at the dropdown/combo box first didn't work, but when 
I remembered to press enter when on/at a dropdown/combo list I was able 
to arrow through them with Window-Eyes.


In Jaws, I had to listen to a whole lot of verbage before I found where 
I was.  I could change the dropdown to various accounts, but it was hit 
or miss, and in that area the numpad arrows didn't seem to work. 
CNTRL-HOME took me to the top, or if I couldn't get that to work tab or 
shift-tab got me out of the quick transaction area.  It is a whole lot 
of trial and a lot of error.


In the quick transaction area Jaws did say "3 rows 5 columns" but I 
wasn't sure how to use that info.


I can use W-E for now, but eventually, especially with Win10, I'm going 
to have a problem.


Any suggestions on how to use my banking site in Jaws as I do with W-E?

Brenda

On 6/7/2017 2:44 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote:

Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first.
That may work.



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From: Brenda via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an
application I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Brenda,

On my banking site here in Canada, I use to struggle with a combo box until I 
learned that if I search for the label of the account I'm looking for, say, 
savings, I can go to the detailed activity in that account by simply clicking 
the account's labelled link.
For me, it's on the main page I land on when I first log in.

Hth,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: June 7, 2017 12:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access 
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an 
application I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read 
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B 
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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Re: purpose of the scroll lock key

[Pamela Dominguez via Talk]

When I was using dos and word perfekt and I forget what screenreader, it was 
a review key.  I forget why I had to use it.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Rod Hutton via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 7:58 AM
To: Neville ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: purpose of the scroll lock key

Hi Neville,

I think it's a throw-back to the days of terminal programs which would 
scroll text stream from BBS's or the like, and so ScrollLock would lock the 
screen, giving you a chance to read it before it scrolled away on you.

Nowadays, you can just map it to your own use.
I use it to mute and unmute my line-in, but this requires a program which 
allows you to set a hot key to toggle the mute status of such a device.
I use Power Mixer, from www.actualsolutions.com, for which I wrote an app, 
Power Mixer Enhance.
Power Mixer is pretty accessible under Jaws without the need for scripting 
to make it accessible.

But, obviously, I digress. (smile)

Best,

Rod

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[mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
Of Neville via Talk

Sent: June 7, 2017 3:00 AM
To: Window Eyes 
Subject: purpose of the scroll lock key

Hi,
In a list message, a member mentioned that the capslock or scroll lock
key could be used as the Jaws key instead of the insert key.  I assume
this would be while using the laptop  keyboard layout rather than the
desktop layout even if using a desktop.  Is this correct?

Also, I have never used the scroll lock key for anything over the 30
years or so of using computers. So, can anyone inform me of its purpose
on the keyboard?

Thanks
Neville.



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Re: all my installed w e apps are gone

[Jeff Weiss via Talk]

In your default folder where all your apps and setfiles are, you should find 
2 files:

wineyes.ini
and
wineyes.ini.bak
These files store some other information first, but at the end of your file, 
you should find a numbered list of all of your installed apps.

These numbers may not be in order, but if the
wineyes.ini.back has more of your apps,
rename wineyes.ini to wineyes.ini.old
and then
rename wineyes.ini.bak to wineyes.ini

Then close window-eyes, and restart the program.

hth,
Jeff weiss




-Original Message- 
From: Neville via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:32 PM
To: Jeff Weiss via Talk
Subject: Re: all my installed w e apps are gone

Hi,

Does anyone know if all the WE apps are stored in the Default folder? If
so, this would make it simple to fix a problem from a previous folder
backup.

Neville.


On 7/06/2017 1:31 AM, Jeff Weiss via Talk wrote:

Did you try checking the app security level?
In app manager, shift-tab to security and press enter.
Look for the option to allow all apps--not just trusted apps--to run.
I know this has to be set every time  window-eyes is installed.
hth,
Jeff Weiss



-Original Message- From: John Covici via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 3:53 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: all my installed w e apps are gone

Sometimes wineyes.ini gets corrupted, if you have a backup of that
file from an earlier time you may get your apps back.

On Tue, 06 Jun 2017 01:04:52 -0400,
net bat via Talk wrote:


hello,
today i just tried to use the voice rotor to change voices and
found out that all of my installed apps are gone. the status is
on but there is nothing in the list for running apps.
i didn't do anything to cause this. i hope i can reinstall the 11
apps i had before.
so i would advise everyone to download all the apps now for later
installation before the app central is gone.


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Re: combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Chris G via Talk]

Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first.
That may work.



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 Original Message 
From: Brenda via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an
application I was filling out.

In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.

Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.

Thanks,
Brenda
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Re: Thunderbird message amounts

[Brenda via Talk]

Hi Marvin,

Wow, you use 3 screen readers.  I'm having enough trouble learning jaws. 
 I keep trying to use W-E commands in jaws.


Fortunately, Window-eyes doesn't freeze (hhh) with TB. I have had an 
occasional issue with FF and W-E freezing.  I'm finding jaws is 
confusing with FF.  Probably need to practice more but W-E is just so 
smooth it makes it hard to switch.


Brenda



On 6/7/2017 12:26 PM, Marvin Commerford via Talk wrote:
Hi.  I don't know of a way to do this.  WE and NVDA do this without 
making changes but Jaws just doesn't seem to handle this list in the 
same way.  I've actually stopped using Jaws with TB because there are 
also other issues that are there.  At this point in time it seems to me 
that NVDA works the best with TB since on my system WE crashes NVDA if 
you go too fast with key presses.  For me WE is still better with TB 
than Jaws even with WE's instability with it.




On 6/7/2017 10:34 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

In Window-eyes the number of messages in a folder is read.
with Jaws is there a way to do this?

At least jaws reads how many unread messages in a folder, but I could 
have lots and lots of messages in my inbox and have no way to know it 
with jaws.


Also, with Jaws is there a way to find out "message 10 of 125" etc to 
know where you are in the message list?


what are Window-Eyes migrants doingabout these issues?

Thanks for any help.
Brenda
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combo boxes and drop down boxes

[Brenda via Talk]

On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access 
to select desired account number WITH  ENTER and arrow.
Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an 
application I was filling out.


In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read 
and adjust my entries.  It is a little time consuming but doable.


Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws?

Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions.  I will try the INSERT-B 
once I get the drop-down thing figured out.


Thanks,
Brenda
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Re: Thunderbird message amounts

[Marvin Commerford via Talk]

Hi.  I don't know of a way to do this.  WE and NVDA do this without 
making changes but Jaws just doesn't seem to handle this list in the 
same way.  I've actually stopped using Jaws with TB because there are 
also other issues that are there.  At this point in time it seems to me 
that NVDA works the best with TB since on my system WE crashes NVDA if 
you go too fast with key presses.  For me WE is still better with TB 
than Jaws even with WE's instability with it.




On 6/7/2017 10:34 AM, Brenda via Talk wrote:

In Window-eyes the number of messages in a folder is read.
with Jaws is there a way to do this?

At least jaws reads how many unread messages in a folder, but I could 
have lots and lots of messages in my inbox and have no way to know it 
with jaws.


Also, with Jaws is there a way to find out "message 10 of 125" etc to 
know where you are in the message list?


what are Window-Eyes migrants doingabout these issues?

Thanks for any help.
Brenda
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Re: Pop-up boxes

[via Talk]

Try Insert-B, which is the read box command in JAWS and NVDA. Results may also 
depend on which browser you use.
-- Lloyd Rasmussen

-Original Message-
>From: Brenda via Talk 
>Sent: Jun 7, 2017 11:43 AM
>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
>Subject: Pop-up boxes
>
>At my banking site I get pop-up boxes to confirm my transaction is from 
>account #123 to #456.
>
>W-E tech support explained to me years ago that these boxes were special 
>and the only way to read them was with CNTRL-SHIFT-W-W which would read 
>the entire page.  I think it had to do with the way certain websites 
>were made.
>
>This is very important - how do I do this in Jaws?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>Brenda
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Pop-up boxes

[Brenda via Talk]

At my banking site I get pop-up boxes to confirm my transaction is from 
account #123 to #456.


W-E tech support explained to me years ago that these boxes were special 
and the only way to read them was with CNTRL-SHIFT-W-W which would read 
the entire page.  I think it had to do with the way certain websites 
were made.


This is very important - how do I do this in Jaws?

Thanks for your help.
Brenda
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Thunderbird message amounts

[Brenda via Talk]

In Window-eyes the number of messages in a folder is read.
with Jaws is there a way to do this?

At least jaws reads how many unread messages in a folder, but I could 
have lots and lots of messages in my inbox and have no way to know it 
with jaws.


Also, with Jaws is there a way to find out "message 10 of 125" etc to 
know where you are in the message list?


what are Window-Eyes migrants doingabout these issues?

Thanks for any help.
Brenda
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RE: purpose of the scroll lock key

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Neville,

I think it's a throw-back to the days of terminal programs which would scroll 
text stream from BBS's or the like, and so ScrollLock would lock the screen, 
giving you a chance to read it before it scrolled away on you.
Nowadays, you can just map it to your own use.
I use it to mute and unmute my line-in, but this requires a program which 
allows you to set a hot key to toggle the mute status of such a device.
I use Power Mixer, from www.actualsolutions.com, for which I wrote an app, 
Power Mixer Enhance.
Power Mixer is pretty accessible under Jaws without the need for scripting to 
make it accessible.
But, obviously, I digress. (smile)

Best,

Rod

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Neville via Talk
Sent: June 7, 2017 3:00 AM
To: Window Eyes 
Subject: purpose of the scroll lock key

Hi,
In a list message, a member mentioned that the capslock or scroll lock 
key could be used as the Jaws key instead of the insert key.  I assume 
this would be while using the laptop  keyboard layout rather than the 
desktop layout even if using a desktop.  Is this correct?

Also, I have never used the scroll lock key for anything over the 30 
years or so of using computers. So, can anyone inform me of its purpose 
on the keyboard?

Thanks
Neville.



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Re: purpose of the scroll lock key

[Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk]

In Excel it keeps your cursor parked in a single cell of a spreadsheet.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Neville via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 3:00 AM
To: Window Eyes
Subject: purpose of the scroll lock key

Hi,
In a list message, a member mentioned that the capslock or scroll lock
key could be used as the Jaws key instead of the insert key.  I assume
this would be while using the laptop  keyboard layout rather than the
desktop layout even if using a desktop.  Is this correct?

Also, I have never used the scroll lock key for anything over the 30
years or so of using computers. So, can anyone inform me of its purpose
on the keyboard?

Thanks
Neville.



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purpose of the scroll lock key

[Neville via Talk]

Hi,
In a list message, a member mentioned that the capslock or scroll lock 
key could be used as the Jaws key instead of the insert key.  I assume 
this would be while using the laptop  keyboard layout rather than the 
desktop layout even if using a desktop.  Is this correct?


Also, I have never used the scroll lock key for anything over the 30 
years or so of using computers. So, can anyone inform me of its purpose 
on the keyboard?


Thanks
Neville.



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