RE: Jaws discussion list?

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I aim to learn at least one thing every week from Raul's tutorials.

The first command I learnt was how to read without having to constantly
arrow down and mostly hold down the insert key and tap the down arrow key or
hold down the insert key and tap 2 on the numpad.

But like Window-eyes you can read by letter, word, line, sentence, paragraph
etc. etc and the tutorials will show you how this is done.

Alison
use 

-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: 25 October 2018 23:46
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Norene Trappa 
Subject: Re: Jaws discussion list?

Hello!
I have some questions about jaws.  I am just learning to use it.  Is there
more than one way to read with jaws?  If so, please explain.  Whenever I
turn on the computer, the speech tells me I have lost focus.  Is there a fix
for that?  Are there tutorials out there to teach basic commands,
keystrokes, etc.  This is more difficult than Window-Eyes was.  Any help
will be gratefully appreciated.  Norene Trappa



-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Jaws discussion list?

Yes subscribe by sending an email to this address.
jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:21 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: Jaws discussion list?

Is there a Jaws discussion list like this list for Window-Eyes?

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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RE: Jaws discussion list?

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I too moved across from Window-eyes to Jaws this year and am a reluctant
convert!
Firstly, when you are told the screen has lost focus, just hold down the alt
key and tap the tab key which will move you back to the screen.
I am still working my way through tutorials but have found the following
website with its podcasts very helpful. 
The podcasts have been written with former Window-eyes users in mind:


http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk
Sent: 25 October 2018 23:46
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: Norene Trappa 
Subject: Re: Jaws discussion list?

Hello!
I have some questions about jaws.  I am just learning to use it.  Is there
more than one way to read with jaws?  If so, please explain.  Whenever I
turn on the computer, the speech tells me I have lost focus.  Is there a fix
for that?  Are there tutorials out there to teach basic commands,
keystrokes, etc.  This is more difficult than Window-Eyes was.  Any help
will be gratefully appreciated.  Norene Trappa



-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:24 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Dennis Long
Subject: RE: Jaws discussion list?

Yes subscribe by sending an email to this address.
jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 11:21 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Bob Tinney
Subject: Jaws discussion list?

Is there a Jaws discussion list like this list for Window-Eyes?

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

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RE: Considering VoiceOver

[CJ MAY via Talk]

This is true enough. Although I'd been a Window-eyes user ever since MS
Windows was introduced, even a few months before migrating to Jaws last
year, I was still learning new features in Window-eyes.
I would say that I'm still a very basic user of Jaws but each week I try to
learn a new command or feature.
Alison
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From: Talk  On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: 25 August 2018 04:32
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Dennis Long 
Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver

Jaws is a very good screen reader.  People need to give it time.  You didn't
learn WindowEyes over night and you won't learn Jaws over night either.

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On Behalf Of CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 4:12 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: Considering VoiceOver

I did consider going down this route but I am basically lazy and it would
mean learning a new operating system. I am so familiar with the Microsoft
operating system and Windows that in the end I bit the bullet and went over
to Jaws.
Do I still miss Window-eyes? Yes, but migrating to Jaws hasn't been as
challenging as I feared and it helped being so familiar with the Windows
operating system.

Alison
 

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From: Talk  On
Behalf Of George Savory via Talk
Sent: 23 August 2018 18:57
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Cc: George Savory 
Subject: Considering VoiceOver

Listers,
Been using Win-Eyes  since Win-Eyes 3X. As Win-Eyes will not be updated, I
am strongly considering going to VoiceOver on Apple. Using VoiceOver on my
iPhone with Safari works perfectly. I don't know if Jaws will ever work well
with websites that use calenders; besides, I won't have to be upgrading a
screen reader  everytime there is an upgrade
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RE: auto-paragraphs

[CJ MAY via Talk]

This is exactly what I need - thank you so much!
Alison


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From: Talk <talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com> On
Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 13 May 2018 01:33
To: CJ MAY via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Kingston <tom.kings...@charter.net>
Subject: Re: auto-paragraphs

Here's how I do it.
In Office 365, which is Word 2016, just activate the Paragraph option in the
context menu. It's the same as pressing Alt-Q for the search box in the
ribbon and entering paragraph. This will give you paragraph settings.
Pressing enter will open that dialog. Otherwise it's a button under the
layout tab.
Tab down through and set the first line indent to whatever you want. 
Ignore the left and right fields as these are for indenting entire
paragraphs, which is something you might use to visually offset a paragraph
length quotation of someone else's work by making both margins larger.
The first line selection is in a combo-box.
Tab down to the Set as default button and press it.
Now, every time you hit enter you'll have a new paragraph that's
automatically indented. To remove the indent from the first paragraph of
each scene or section just go to the first line, press Home to be sure
you're on the first character, and press backspace.
If you want confirmation, press Control+Numpad plus before backspace. 
You should hear for example, 1.5 inches from left, 1.0 inches from top. 
backspace and press Control+numpad plus again and you should hear 1.0 inches
from left, 1.0 inches from top.
the thing you have to remember though is not to remove the indent until
after you've started the second paragraph. Doing so turns off the automatic
indentation for the document. But this is useful when you want to do just
that for a document.
Pressing the tab key once will also indent. But you have to remember to do
it on every new paragraph. And most editors don't want tabbed indentations.
And finally, Control+M indents the entire paragraph. For example, let's say
you have no automatic indentation of the first line going on. So every line
will begin at 1.5 inches from the left. Pressing Control+M will shift the
entire paragraph to the indentation level. So every line will begin at 2
inches from the left.
Hth,
Tom


On 5/12/2018 5:40 AM, CJ MAY via Talk wrote:
> What my tutor wants is for me to submit my material in double line 
> spacing with the first paragraph left-aligned and all subsequent 
> paragraphs indented.
> So, what I would do is write the first paragraph without indenting. 
> Then, because the text is double-line spaced, pressing the enter key 
> once (to create a new line) acts as a new paragraph.
> Until now, I have been pressing the space bar five times on these new 
> lines to indent the paragraph but my tutor would prefer me to use 
> Microsoft's auto-paragraph function.
> Microsoft has an auto-paragraphing command, which I've found in the 
> context menu but I'm unsure how to use it.
> Also, Microsoft also offer control m as a way of indenting a paragraph.
> What I'm asking is how do I use the auto-paragraph function in the 
> context menu or, whether by pressing control m on the second paragraph 
> would then mean that all subsequent paragraphs would be indented, as 
> with bullets and auto-numbering?
> 
> Alison
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RE: auto-paragraphs

[CJ MAY via Talk]

What my tutor wants is for me to submit my material in double line spacing
with the first paragraph left-aligned and all subsequent paragraphs
indented. 
So, what I would do is write the first paragraph without indenting. Then,
because the text is double-line spaced, pressing the enter key once (to
create a new line) acts as a new paragraph. 
Until now, I have been pressing the space bar five times on these new lines
to indent the paragraph but my tutor would prefer me to use Microsoft's
auto-paragraph function.
Microsoft has an auto-paragraphing command, which I've found in the context
menu but I'm unsure how to use it.
Also, Microsoft also offer control m as a way of indenting a paragraph. 
What I'm asking is how do I use the auto-paragraph function in the context
menu or, whether by pressing control m on the second paragraph would then
mean that all subsequent paragraphs would be indented, as with bullets and
auto-numbering?

Alison

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RE: auto-paragraphs

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I'm using Office 10 with Office 365.
Can anyone help with auto-paragraphing please? My Creative Writing Tutor would 
like me to use this feature rather than just indenting paragraphs by pressing 
the spacebar.
I see that Office offers control m to ident paragraphs. If I select my text, 
would pressing control m then indent every line which follows a press of the 
enter key?

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk  On 
Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
Sent: 11 May 2018 17:59
To: Larry Higgins via Talk 
Cc: Bob Tinney 
Subject: Re: I'm beginning to notice new features that Window-Eyes does notg 
support

Thanks, Larry,


The bypass key worked.  I didn't know that control shift n was a window-eyes 
key.

Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

On 5/11/2018 10:56 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote:
> Sure it does. Use your WE bypass key and try it.
>
>
> On 5/11/2018 9:26 AM, Bob Tinney via Talk wrote:
>> I just noticed that WE does not support the new folder feature when 
>> you want to create a new folder by hitting control shift n. NVDA and 
>> Narrator do support this feature.
>>
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RE: Downloading Document from Internet Link

[CJ MAY via Talk]

You should just be able to press the enter key or spacebar on the link. But
this may well then open a dialog box asking where you want to save the
document too. You will most likely need to press alt n to open this
navigation dialog box to choose open or save.

Alison

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RE: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I am using Microsoft 365 Outlook and it calls the folder holding deleted
messages, "bin". 
Alison

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RE: Did You Accidentially Delete A Message? {Was} NVDA mailing list

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Am I right though, that the deleted messages actually go to the "bin"
folder? Only unwanted ads etc. go to your "trash" folder?

Alison

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RE: Help with Jaws, please!

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Paulette, as a new Jaws user, I'm not to best to help you but a tip I can
pass on in respect of searching within word is that it is simpler to use the
search and replace command rather than the "find" command.
So, instead of using control  for "find", use control H, which is the
shortcut for "search and replace". This means that if you want to repeat the
search, you just shift tab twice, or maybe three times, and press enter and
it rtepeats the "find". 
I don't recognise many of the problems you are experiencing, which is why I
have not responded and, as a new Windows 10, Office 365 and Jaws user, I'm
still on a stepp learning curve myself. 
All I can say is that all your Microsoft commands should operate as they
used to Window-eyes. So, when you want to open a document you have created,
you should be able to open Word, press control o for open and then tab twice
to see all your recently opened documents.
I am wondering if you too have recently updated to Windows 10?  
I have also found the short tutorial designed for Window-eyes users
migrating to Jaws very helpful.   muysebut when I havyou are probably better
some tips 

Alison

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Paulette Vickery via Talk
Sent: 19 February 2018 02:06
To: ukekearu...@valtdnet.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Cc: Paulette Vickery 
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Thanks so much for your rapid response. So far, you are the only one who has
graciously answered some of my questions. I found out that the reason I
couldn't read documents was that when I tabbed through the choices, I had to
stop on something about, shell, then arrow down through the list. Why on
earth I had to hear shell in order to do this, I have no idea. Also, I still
can't stop Jaws from going into 40 minute mode. It is quite frustrating.
Also, I found that I am unable to search a document for a word. I tried
searching for the word, mode, and I was able to do it once by using control
f, but after using it one time, when I tried to search using the exact same
key strokes again, it wouldn't search. Someone please help. Thanks.

Paulette

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc.
Subject: RE: Help with Jaws, please!

Paulette, when it comes to Word and Jaws, you should be using the standard
Windows command you already know.  Example, Ctrl-O brings up the Open
dialogue and you can type in the name of whichever file you wish to open.
First letter navigation should also be possible once the Open dialogue is
invoked.  In essence, you do not need a specialised Jaws keystroke to find
stuff in Word.  Oh well, I don't use whatever keystrokes Window-Eyes
scripted for Word; I just use what Windows has to offer me and it works like
a charm.  

Also, you can press the Windows key to launch the Search Edit Box.  Here,
type "documents" without the quotes of course.  Once Documents has focus,
press  and you can use FIRST LETTER navigation to find your file.
once you find the file you wish to open, press  and, if it's a Word
file, the file will open in Word.

To read E-mail, launch your mail reader--Outlook, or whatever E-mail client
you use.  Press  on the message you wish to read.  Sometimes, reading
may not begin from the top.  In that instance, press ctrl-home to get to the
top, then use Insert-Down Arrow to read your mail.  

You can customize how you want stuff done when in the mail reader.  Press
Insert-V, go through the various list of customisations  and select the ones
that meet your needs.  Be patient as you customise the look and feel for
mail reading purposes.  Remember to save your settings when done!

When you talk about control panel analogous to that of Window-Eyes, what
exactly are you trying to accomplish in Jaws?  Jaws's approach is quite
different from that of GW Micro's Window-Eyes!  Example:  Insert-J will put
you in the Jaws Context Menu and you can perform some customisations here
using your up and down arrow keys to go through the list of what's possible
and following the prompts.  

I can't fathom why Jaws would keep running in 40-minute mode when you have
already entered an authorization code.  For that one, consider giving V F O
or whatever name it goes by a call.  

Hmm, I'm not sure I'll consider joining the Jaws mailing list.  For one
thing, their moderators are not as tolerant as this list is.  I'd say ask
your questions here and I believe that the brilliant minds here will step up
to the plate.  I don't recall the Jaws users mailing list subscription info,
I do know, however, that the list is on groups.io.  If you type Jaws Users
Mailing List into Google to perform a search, quite 

RE: Problem when on websites

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I never knew about using f6 for this and always used alt d to get the page
address and then control c to copy it.

Alison


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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of peter Chin via Talk
Sent: 03 February 2018 06:43
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Cc: peter Chin 
Subject: Problem when on websites

Hello all,

I hope someone can help me with a strange problem I have when on the
internet. I am using Window-Eyes on a Windows8.1 machine and I normally use
IE to get to web pages. I used to be able to get the url of the page I am on
by pressing F6 when I can read the url with my arrow keys and copy it to my
clipboard. About a month ago, this suddenly changed. Now when I press F6 I
can no longer read the url with my arrow keys to copy it to my clipboard,
though I can read it with  my mouse when I route mouse to cursor.  How can I
regain this capability?

I hope what I have described makes sense and I hope someone can help me out.

Thanks in advance.


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RE: quick access or this pc

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I find the pc setting works best for me. 
I press windows key e, then alt up-arrow and can arrow down to PC and press
enter and then arrow down to what I want. I find this works particularly
well when I want to access my USB or DVD drives.

Alison


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Subject: quick access or this pc

I have one more question about file explorer. There are two settings, one is
quick access, and the other is this pc. Which one functions more like the
old windows explorer? If neither does, then what is the difference between
the two, and which is more speech friendly? Thank you much.

Butch
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RE: Attachment Question

[CJ MAY via Talk]

The other thing which occurs to me is whether your computer can play this
type of attachment.

Alison


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Sent: 25 January 2018 18:39
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Subject: RE: Attachment Question

Hi Trish,

Okay, then, with the message open, are you able to press Alt-F in order to
open the File menu, and then can you arrow down to Save, attachments?

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


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Subject: Re: Attachment Question

Thank you, Rod, but that doesn't work. (smile)


Trish

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:41 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: Attachment Question

Hi Trish,

If you're in the message body, try Shift-Tabbing once and see if you land on
a button labelled "attachments."
If you do, you should be able to press Space on it and get a context menu
with options for handling them.

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


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Cc: Patricia Krinke
Subject: Re: Attachment Question

Thanks for answering, Rod.  It's Windows Live Mail, but I have no idea which
version it is.


Trish

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 2:20 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Rod Hutton
Subject: RE: Attachment Question

Hi Trish,

Which email program are you using?

Best,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows


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Hi,

I am using Windows 7.  How do I open an attachment?


Trish
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RE: Attachment Question

[CJ MAY via Talk]

When I was using Window-eyes, I used to open attachments by shift tabbing
back to the subject line and then right-arrowing to the attachment. 
Sometimes pressing enter would bring up options but more often I had to
double click the left mouse button.

Alison

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RE: hotkey for word 2007

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I am using MS Word 365 (is it?) and control tab does move through the groups
in a ribbon for me. So, firt press tab and then try control plus tab.

Alison


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Sent: 22 January 2018 00:20
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Cc: Rod Hutton 
Subject: RE: hotkey for word 2007

Hi Butch,

I always thought it was Ctrl-tab to move among the groups within a tab.
I have 2010 here, I tried it, but it doesn't do exactly that.
What it does do is move between the current item and the help search field
and back again.
Perhaps it does what you want in 2007.

Good luck,

Rod

Sent from Outlook 2010 for Windows

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To: gw micro
Cc: BK
Subject: hotkey for word 2007

Hello, In word 2007, I know that tab and shift tab will move from item to
item within a group on the ribbon, but I forgot the hotkey that will move
you from group to group, instead of having to tab through all the items in
one group to reach another group. If anyone knows the hotkey to move group
to group, please let me know. Thanks.

Butch

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RE: code in outlook 2016 to send an attached file

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Alt n a f

But good look finding it!

Alison



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Subject: code in outlook 2016 to send an attached file

What is the code in outlook 2016 to send an attached file? I know you use
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RE: Win10 issue

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Sounds awful. I just hope it doesn't make its way over here to the UK.

Alison


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RE: Win10 issue

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Your weather conditions are all over our news. Is it as bad as they have 
forecasted?

Alison


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On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: 05 January 2018 02:47
To: Carol and Roger via Talk 
Cc: Tom Kingston 
Subject: Re: Win10 issue

Here's another shortcut you'll probably want in Windows 10.
Windows+I opens settings.
It's like another control panel. More and more things are being moved to it. 
You'll land in a search box. Shift+Tab up to the list box and arrow around 
through all the various headers. Then tab down.

Have fun with Windows 10. I didn't find it to be a big hurtle. But of course 
hindsight makes most things seem easier than they were.

And now with the "bomb cyclone" revving up and pounding down on me it's time to 
shut down and pull the plug before dear mother nature does.

Regards,
Tom


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> Thanks.  I did figure it out.  It only said "d" when I pressed 
> winkey+d, so I thought it was not allowing me to go to the desktop.  
> Anyway, thanks for the help.  I just downloaded the Windows 10 Missing Manual.
> It is quite a long book, so I will be busy for a long time, grin.
> 
> Carol
> 
> 
> On 1/4/2018 9:05 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
>> Carol,
>> When you close all programs, or at startup, and land in this window, 
>> just press Windows+D to go to the desktop.
>> Hth,
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On 1/4/2018 7:50 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Rod,
>>>
>>> So, I guess it is like the pc losing focus?  Boy!  Do I have a lot 
>>> to learn!
>>>
>>> I just downloaded the Windows 10 Missing Manual to see if I can get 
>>> some basic information.  In some ways, this is not as bad as 
>>> switching from Windows 98 to Windows 7.  But, there is a lot more 
>>> now than there was for that switch.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information.
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/4/2018 7:41 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
 Hi Carol,

 It's just what we hear when nothing is focused, and it's something 
 we all just have to put up with. (sigh)

 Best,

 Rod

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 On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
 Sent: January 4, 2018 5:47 PM
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 Cc: Carol and Roger 
 Subject: Win10 issue

 Hi,

 What is foreground staging (which says nothing) and how can I keep 
 it from showing up and blocking everything?

 Actually, it doesn't block everything unless it is the only thing 
 open, grin.  It just is there and won't go away and I wish it 
 would, of course, if it has a function, I don't want to get rid of 
 it, I only want to get it closed.  Thanks

 Carol


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RE: Win10 and WE

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Have tried this and it works - many thanks.
Alison


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Sent: 19 December 2017 01:30
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Cc: Carol Smith <carogsm...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Re: Win10 and WE

Hi Allison,

I am not at my computer, but to get the numbering you wish, try using your
insert key plus the 8 on your number pad.  If that does not work, it might
be the 9 key instead.  It will tell you the number and the total number of
files.  

Carol

  
 

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To: "'Window-Eyes Discussion List'"  <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2017 9:39 am
Subject: Re: Win10 and WE

>
>
> The way to get that info with jaws. use the jaws say line command.
> 
> -----Original Message-
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> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Cc: CJ MAY
> Subject: RE: Win10 and WE
> 
> Whilst on this topic, I have just gone over to Jaws and one thing I 
> don't like about it is that when in Windows Explorer and arrowing down 
> my list of downloaded books, it no longer tells me how many items in 
> the list and which number in the list is selected.
> Is there a way to adjust this?
> Alison
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RE: Win10 and WE

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Whilst on this topic, I have just gone over to Jaws and one thing I don't like 
about it is that when in Windows Explorer and arrowing down my list of 
downloaded books, it no longer tells me how many items in the list and which 
number in the list is selected. 
Is there a way to adjust this?
Alison

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RE: jaws for beginners

[CJ MAY via Talk]

With Window-eyes, if I had a calendar alert, I could tab to dismiss but Jaws
just goes silent. Is there something I'm supposed to be doing?

Alison


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Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 04 December 2017 23:31
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' 
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger 
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters! 

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 7:55 pm, Larry Higgins via Talk
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RE: jaws for beginners

[CJ MAY via Talk]

On my Milestone's SD Card  I have created folders entitled Book1, book2 etc.
and copy my talking nbooks into these folders - it saves always having to
change the name of the folder to that of the book.
In Window-eyes, as I arrowed down the folders, it would report if the folder
was empty or, if it was an Audible, even the name of the book but also the
size of the files therein. Jaws just tells me Book1, Book2 but no other
information. Can I alter this?

Alison
 

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: 05 December 2017 15:00
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: Russ Kiehne 
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Go to Gwmicro.com and you'll find:
To help with the transition to JAWS, we have created some tutorials to get
you started. The tutorials are available in two formats, audio and Microsoft
Word

-Original Message-
From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 3:30 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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RE: saving documents in Office 365

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Yes, f12 brings up the save as dialog box where I can type the file name but
shift tabbing doesn't bring up what I need. The programme seems determined
that I should save my document in One Drive. In Windows 10 there was a
browse button which I could use to escape from One Drive - I'm still playing
but it is a mystery at the moment how to access my PC rather than One Drive.

Alison
  

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 20:53
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Tom Fairhurst <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: saving documents in Office 365

The easiest way I have found is to press F12. After it is pressed, you will
be placed in a dialog with a suggested file name. You can edit this to your
liking. Press Shift+Tab, and you should be in a list of folders. Arrow to
the one you desire and press
Enter. Tab till you reach the file name and press Enter. Your file 
should be saved in the desired folder. Note that you should be le to
navigate between folders and/or other locations on your computer in Windows
Explorer.

-Original Message-----
From: CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 1:29 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; drlineber...@embarqmail.com
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: saving documents in Office 365

We have just installed Office 365. How do I save a document to a specified
folder?
Alison

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Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: 05 December 2017 15:00
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Go to Gwmicro.com and you'll find:
To help with the transition to JAWS, we have created some tutorials to get
you started. The tutorials are available in two formats, audio and Microsoft
Word

-Original Message-
From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 3:30 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 7:55 pm, Larry Higgins via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
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RE: jaws for beginners

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Using your suggesting of accessing the context menu worked; it offered
varius options and then opened edit fields to complete. I couldn't see a
"save option but when I escaped out I was asked if I wanted to save the
appointment. 
Many thanks.

Alison
options of new appointments, opened 

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 20:16
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

I'm using Outlook 2010, so it might not be the same.  But Control-n Is
usually the Microsoft command for creating something new.
If you arrow to the date you want, you may also be able to press the context
menu key and get a range of choices.
HTH.
Rebecca

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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 12:43 PM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

What you advise works for viewing the calendar but I can't see how to insert
an entry.

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 11:19
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

It works very differently, but try ctrl-2 to open the calendar. Move the
cursor horizontally to select days and vertically to select times. When you
are done, ctrl-1 gets you back into your e-mail. I don't know a lot more
than that at present.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 3:50 AM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

In Window-eyes there was the insert c command to use the Outlook calendar;
is there something equivalent in Jaws?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 04 December 2017 23:31
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 7:55 pm, Larry Higgins via Talk
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
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RE: jaws for beginners

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Good idea. I'll tgry it.
Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 20:16
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

I'm using Outlook 2010, so it might not be the same.  But Control-n Is
usually the Microsoft command for creating something new.
If you arrow to the date you want, you may also be able to press the context
menu key and get a range of choices.
HTH.
Rebecca

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 12:43 PM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

What you advise works for viewing the calendar but I can't see how to insert
an entry.

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 11:19
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

It works very differently, but try ctrl-2 to open the calendar. Move the
cursor horizontally to select days and vertically to select times. When you
are done, ctrl-1 gets you back into your e-mail. I don't know a lot more
than that at present.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-----
From: CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 3:50 AM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

In Window-eyes there was the insert c command to use the Outlook calendar;
is there something equivalent in Jaws?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 04 December 2017 23:31
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 7:55 pm, Larry Higgins via Talk
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RE: saving documents in Office 365

[CJ MAY via Talk]

We have just installed Office 365. How do I save a document to a specified
folder?
Alison

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From: Talk
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Of Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: 05 December 2017 15:00
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Cc: Russ Kiehne 
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Go to Gwmicro.com and you'll find:
To help with the transition to JAWS, we have created some tutorials to get
you started. The tutorials are available in two formats, audio and Microsoft
Word

-Original Message-
From: Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 3:30 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+drlineberger=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Alison May via Talk
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:42 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Alison May
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Dec 2017, at 7:55 pm, Larry Higgins via Talk
 wrote:
>
>
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RE: jaws for beginners

[CJ MAY via Talk]

What you advise works for viewing the calendar but I can't see how to insert
an entry.

Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk
Sent: 06 December 2017 11:19
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Lloyd Rasmussen <l...@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: jaws for beginners

It works very differently, but try ctrl-2 to open the calendar. Move the
cursor horizontally to select days and vertically to select times. When you
are done, ctrl-1 gets you back into your e-mail. I don't know a lot more
than that at present.



Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message-----
From: CJ MAY via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 3:50 AM
To: drlineber...@embarqmail.com ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Cc: CJ MAY
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

In Window-eyes there was the insert c command to use the Outlook calendar;
is there something equivalent in Jaws?
Alison


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+chrisalismay=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rebecca Lineberger via Talk
Sent: 04 December 2017 23:31
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Cc: Rebecca Lineberger <drlineber...@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: jaws for beginners

Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
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Having planned to remain a window-eyes user for the the foreseeable future,
I am ill-prepared for the unexpected demise of my trusty computer and I have
made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
to end command please?  Enough for starters!

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In Window-eyes there was the insert c command to use the Outlook calendar;
is there something equivalent in Jaws?
Alison


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Alison, the read to end command, or say all, is insert-down arrow.  This can
be either the down arrow of the T-arrow keys or the 2 on your numpad.
The read current line is the insert key and the up arrow, again, either the
up arrow of the T arrow keys or the 8 on your numpad.
Here's the link to the premium voices
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/Synthesizers
You should have been able to set verbosity level in the startup wizard, if I
remember correctly But you can get it in several other ways.
Press insert-v to bring up the  quick settings menu.  Arrow down to User
verbosity Or type Verbosity in the search edit box.  The default is
beginner.  Press the spacebar to cycle through the choices.
If you press tab, JAWS will say:
This option controls the Verbosity, or amount of information, spoken by
JAWS.
The level settings are Beginner, Intermediate, and Advanced.
To customize what JAWS speaks for each level, see the Verbosity Options
dialog in Settings Center. The default setting is Beginner.
Tab to ok and press enter.
There are other things in that list, such as punctuation you can change too.
Check out the training materials in the JAWS help menu.
HTH.
Rebecca
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made the sad and reluctant decision to load jaws on my new computer. Could
someone help me get started by telling me how to reduce its verbosity and
where I can find alternative voices - any recommendations?  What is the read
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RE: typing passwords with jaws

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I confess that I also have a text file where all the passwords are listed.
The file has a very obscure name so hopefully is safe enough.

 

But when I have a complicated and difficult to remember password, I too copy
and paste it across.

 

 

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RE: typing passwords with jaws

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I didn't know you could turn this feature off in Window-eyes.

All my devices do the same for passwords so just assumed it was something I
was stuck with.

 

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RE: reading track changes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I belong to a Creative Writing Class and have been nagged into writing a
story which is now finished. Two of the class have very kindly agreed to
read the story and make comments. One sent the text back with "comments"
which I could read with Window-eyes but the other has used "track changes"
and I don't know how to access these; can it be done?

 

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RE: Is there a Find feature in JAWS?

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I have always used control h for finding text in MS Word. In fact it is the
find and replace command but I find it less fiddly than the control f
command.

 

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RE: Outlook 2007 Question

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I can't remember any version of Outlook which has given me this information.

 

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RE: A reminder that the Free Window Eyes migration offer ends on Monday July 31

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I have downloaded the migration and promised myself to spend at least two or
three hurs each week learning to use Jaws - but here I am, still in my
comfort zone with Window-eyes.

 

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RE: Good Bye

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Could folk please change the subject line.

 

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RE: Window-eyes 9.5 not reading with Thunderbird

[CJ MAY via Talk]

But in the meantime, it is still a firstclass screenreader which works
incredibly well!

 

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RE: Two Jaws Questions

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I do prefer the Window-eyes Outlook Calendar but control 2 does work when
using Jaws.

 

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RE: Ai Squared - Window-Eyes - JAWS Migration

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Thanks for this. I'll go through this too. 

It's a bit bewildering when you are faced with 60 plus pages of keystrokes!

 

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RE: Does Jaws have . . . .

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Some of Window-eyes' features I've found really useful have been 

 

Read page elements: insert e;

 

Speak summary: control shift s;

 

Display page navigation dialog: insert tab reads comments, huyperlinks
spelling errors and more).

 

I wondered if Jaws had the equivalent? As Jaws calls things by different
names I'm having difficulty searching to look this up myself. And lastly, do
we treat notifications the same with alt n to access the open/save options
etc. 

 

Hope someone can help.

 

My aim is to learn half a dozen Jaws keystrokes a day but it is a relief to
be typing this back in good old Window-eyes!

 

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RE: Jaws training resources

[CJ MAY via Talk]

A friend sent me this link yesterday and I've found it really helpful as not
only does it list the Jaws keystrokes but gives examples of how they are
used.

 

http://www.sweetmansystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Jaws-Word-and-Inte
rnet-Commands-with-Examples.htm

 

 

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RE: Two Jaws Questions

[CJ MAY via Talk]

At last I have migrated to Jaws. I have to confess I'm not enjoying the
experience so far but realise I need to learn how to tweak some settings.

My first problem is that I don't like the speech! I strongly disliked the
default Eloquence and am using Peter at the moment but wondered which voices
people are using and feel are clearest.

I think it is going to be a long time before I will be able to say I prefer
Jaws to Windoweyes.

I hadn't realised that insert c to reach the Outlook Calendar was a
Window-eyes key.

How do I access the Outlook calendar using Jaws please?

 

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RE: Jaws migration along with the msa

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I have received an e-mail today saying they are waiting for me to confirm
whether I want the home or pro edition. Looking at the e-maiol they have
asked me this before but I am adamant I didn't receive that e-mail and I've
checked my junk folder.

Anyway, at least they now seem to be on the case.

What is the difference incidentally between the Home and Pro versions?

 

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RE: Jaws Migration

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I've left a message for the British aGent, so let's see what happens next.

 

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RE: Jaws Migration

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I've had the automated confirmation which came also immediately, but nothing
else.

 

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RE: Jaws Migration

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I have now sent two requests regarding free migration to Jaws - one ten days
ago and another on Monday. All I've received in return is an automated
reply. 

Is this typical?

 

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RE: Reading Internet Table With Window-eyes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I have started the process for getting the free Jaws download but suspect I
will be using Window-eyes for some time to come.

 

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RE: Opening attachments

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I've never found the 7 way helpful. I usually just shift tab back to the
attachments and then press enter on the attachment I want.

 

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RE: training with daisy book

[CJ MAY via Talk]

You'd probably need to download the Daisy Book to an mp3 player.

 

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RE: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course, Over Easy:The Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being Held Online 6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm UK Time

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I really don't understand people's annoyance at having to purchase a
tutorial. There is free material already available, which they can use, but
why shouldn't someone be recompensed for their time and effort in creating a
tutorial. When I purchased my Iphone, I didn't think twice about purchasing
Anna Dresner's tutorial and it was money really worth spending.

In the past I have used some of Brian Hartgen's tutorials and they were
always of a high standard. 

There is free learning materials available for those who don't want to
splash out extra money but they really can't expect people to undertake such
a big piece of work and receive no reward.

 

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RE: Announcement: Brian Hartgen Training Course, Over Easy:The Switch from window-Eyes to JAWS! Being Held Online 6/1/17 at 2pm Eastern, 7pm UK Time

[CJ MAY via Talk]

My paths haven't crossed with Brian Hartgen for many years but when I was
relatively new to computers, his tutorials were really helpful, especially
as at that time, he was a Window-eyes user himself. He is very
knowledgeable, talks in a non-technical way and makes learning easy. Will I
buy his tutorial? Well, I'll see how I get on with what's already available
first. I do have several friends who are Jaws users so might keep my money
in my pocket for the time being - smile!

 

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RE: End of Life Message

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Because I share my pc with my sighted husband, we are continually switching
Window-eyes on and off and each time, at the moment, that we switch it back
on, we get the End of Life Message.

 

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RE: End of Life Message

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Me too.

 

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RE: The JAWS Experience

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This is reassuring.

 

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RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I presume that it is because Window-eyes was purchased with the intention of
eliminating a competitor so they are unlikely to release a source code for
others to develop Window-eyes.

I'm really sorry and a bit fed-up too that Window-eyes is to be discontinued
but can see it is a business decision - no different than other take-overs.

 

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RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I agree; Window-eyes was never properly marketed in the UK. This isn't a dig
against the independent companies who acted as agents but the big
organisations like RNIB.

 

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RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

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I can't help but think we talked ourselves into this situation!

 

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RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

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It may be dying, Peter, but it isn't ctually dead yet. It works absolutely
fine for me on Windows 10 and I will be sticking with it until I reach a
time when Window-eyes can no longer support the work I'm doing.

So, let's just say it is terminally ill, rather than dead!

 

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RE: Window-Eyes!

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Is this just an urban myth or a fact? Do you actually know that the number
of Window-eyes users has fallen?

What will kill Window-eyes is the fear of it being discontinued so new users
will not take the risk in future of purchasing it.

 

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burban 

 

 

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RE: why does outlook not find attachments?

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I've never had much success with f7 but by shift-tabbing I am usually able
to find the attachment and open or save it.

 

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RE: Until VFO says so, Window-eyes is not dead.

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I'm much happier with this subject line - smile!

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RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I anticipate that eventually NVDA and other screenreader competitors will be
bought out to eliminate competition and eventually there will just be Jaws.

But until that day, I will continue to use and enjoy Window-eyes.

 

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RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

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No, but you'd think so by the subject headings and the negative talk on this
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RE: No future; Window-Eyes is dead!

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I suspect that NVDA will also eventually be purchased, as the main
competitor left in the field.

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RE: Questions re WE

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The future is very uncertain and it is difficult to encourage anyone to
purchase Window-eyes at the moment, not knowing what the future holds.

 

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RE: pronunciation query

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Yes, for me too. I am using Dectalk Access as my synthesiser but wonder how
other synths might be reading your examples.

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RE: App updates

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I see this as a promising sign, however. If you are about to abandon a
product, why go to all this trouble?

 

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RE: Staying with what I know

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I'd feel the same as you. My fear is that all this negatism actually
threatens the product.

 

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RE: itunes really needs fixing to work with window eyes.

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I frequently purchase songs via Itunes using my phone, which allows me to
hear a section before purchasing. I rarely have any problems.

I don't use the Itunes website on my pc but do keep all my music in Itunes
which then enables me to share the song I've purchased with my Iphone but
also on other devices.

 

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RE: Window-Eyes Update 9.5.4

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I find it rather reassuring that we are still getting updates.

 

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RE: Window-eyes is still great

[CJ MAY via Talk]

What a great subject line!

Let's not kill it off until we have to!

 

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RE: Future of WE

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Well I plan to keep my head in the sand for as long as I can and stick with
what I know. 

I doubt that I will ever go over to Jaws but will stay sitting on the fence
for as long as I possibly can to see what solutions work for others who are
also reluctant to go over to the Shark!

 

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RE: in IE 11, how do I get to open / save notification?

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Yes, pressing alt n should take you to the notification bar but then tabbing
or shift tabbing will give you the option to open or save - the save is
often a split button so right-arrowing on this will give you the "save as"
option. 

 

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speaking keystrokes

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I came across instructions once on how to make Window-eyes speak certain
keystrokes, in particular to have Window-eyes say "send/receive mail" when
you press control m in Outlook but I can't remember how to do this; could
someone tell me please? I'm presuming it is hidden somewhere in the
verbosity setting. 

 

Alison

 

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speaking keyboard commands

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I remember listening to a tutorial or webinar where I was shown how to make
Window-eyes speak "send/receive mail" when I press control m in Outlook but
I can't remember where to go to enable this; can anyone help?

 

Alison

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RE: speech synthesizers

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I originally used Dectalk Express and despite the wide choice of much more
human voices, I still prefer to use Dectalk Access 32. 

Alison

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RE: history of window eyes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

And we are so grateful to you, Doug, and others like you who invested so
much time and effort into making computers accessible.

I recall when Windows was about to be introduced and the blind media were so
despondent, claiming that blind people would never be able to access the
Windows system, but thanks to folk like you, they were proved wrong.

When I think of all the things I use my computer for, I cannot begin to tell
you just how much I appreciate the freedom and independence your hard work
has made possible.

Thank you so much!

 

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RE: Printing Envelopes

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I never had much success either in printing on sheets of labels.

 

Alison

 

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RE: Printing Envelopes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I have a Dymo Label printer which I've found really useful; the
self-adhesive labels come in a roll and fit in the Dymo Printer and you can
copy and paste the address into the edit box, select the address from the
address book or type the address into the edit box. There is also a keyboard
shortcut to open the program, ready for printing.

For those who do not have a dedicated label printer, however, I think the
easiest way is to put the envelope into the printer and go to Word, type and
highlight the address and then press alt m (for mail) and e (for envelopes)
and then tab down to print.

 

Alison

 

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RE: Printing Envelopes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

The way I do it is to write the address in Word, highlight it and then hit
alt m for mail and e for envelopes and tab through to print. 

 

This usually works for me.

 

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RE: Just One Person's Thoughts

[CJ MAY via Talk]

This is excellent advice and I'd urge us all to write to VFO with our
concerns. I'm not as technically savvie as some of you but I still plan to
write and express my concerns and tell them why I have always preferred to
use Window-eyes and want for the future.

There's nothing to be gained by just wallowing in negativity on this list.
We need to make VFO know the strength of our feelings.

 

Alison

 

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RE: was favorites in IE but now Sentspace

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Mostly I don't have this problems with Favourites but now get a security
problem everytime I try to download items via Sentspace.

Is there a way round this?

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RE: The future of Window-eyes

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I agree. If you look at the time and expertise which has gone into
developing the product, then you can't expect to get that for nothing.
Throughout my working life Vocal-eyes and then Window-eyes has been there to
support me.

IN my naivety I have always believe that there was little to choose between
Jaws and Window-eyes but it has always seemed to me that the support given
to Window-eyes users has been far superior to that provided to Jaws users. 

I'll be as sorry as anyone to see the demise of Window-eyes but am trying to
be positive. Perhaps what this merger will mean is that the technical
knowledge for both products will be brought together to create a new and
even better beast, combining the best of both systems.

 

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RE: am I still subscribed

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I had a message which seemed to indicate my subscription had been terminated
due to too many bounces so am writing this message to see whether I am still
subscribed.

 

Alison

 

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[CJ MAY via Talk]

I'm unsure if this will reach the list but what is it telling me and do I
need to do anything please?

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RE: pdf tables

[CJ MAY via Talk]

There is indeed an audio tutorial on using tables within PDF. Below are some
of the notes I took down regarding same:

 

Move to link: l

Move to heading; h

Move to table: t

 

Read tables in PDF: 

go to table: t

Enable table mode: control-plus key

Read column header: ctrl-shift-h

Navigate through columns: insert right arrow key.

Move by rows: insert down arrow key.

Leave table: control minus key.

 

Navigate columns and rows: arrow keys

Jump to page: ctrl-shift n and then type page number. 

 

Problems reading PDF document: save as a text document.

 

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reading e-mails in Outlook which appear in table format

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I think I may have accidentally change some sort of setting as several
e-mails in Outlook are now arriving in table format and are virtually
impossible to read, unless I use the mouse.

I don't know what I've done but is there a work-around for such e-mails?

Alison

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RE: Buying Music

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I am old-fashioned enough that if I like several tracks on an album, I still
prefer to buy a hard copy of the CD. However, if I only want a single track
then I use iTunes because it is so simple. It downloads the track to iTunes
but if I then decide that I'd like to create my own playlist and copy it to
a CD to play on other devices, it is really simple to do so as the songs are
saved in mP3 format.

I have tried downloading music via Amazon but didn't find it easy at all.

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RE: Correction

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But where in App Cantal will I find it - under which heading please?

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RE: Append Clipboard

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Where can I find the Append Clipboard app and is it worth having, do you
think?

 

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RE: Is the Window-eyes website down?

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I keep trying to access Appget but nothing happens. Is the site down?

 

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RE: Out look 2016

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Have you tried control y?

 

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RE: Who's going to take over the tutorials now that Mark is gone?

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I've been a Window-eyes user ever since I converted from DOS but have never
read the manual!

I think that if I was going to recommend anything, then it would be more
tutorials on various topics but much shorter. So, for example, rather than
having one tutorial on using Window-eyes with Windows 10, I'd have a series
of short tutorials on various aspects.

 

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RE: Who's going to take over the tutorials now that Mark is gone?

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I too am sorry to see Mark go. In truth we would really benefit from some of
the tutorials being updated, i.e. I would very much like a tutorial on using
Windows 10 with Window-eyes and an update on using Window-eyes with iTunes.

 

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RE: bell

[CJ MAY via Talk]

This is really interesting; many thanks.

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bell

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Forgive me if this message has already been sent.

I receive certain messages, usually in table lay-out, where Window-eyes is
constantly saying "bell"; what is the significance of this and how can I
stop it please?

 

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RE: bell

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I am receiving certain messages, usually containing table lay-outs, where
Window-eyes keeps saying "bell". 

What is the signicance of this and how can I stop it please?

 

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RE: Test of a reply since a new message has not hit the list disregard

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I don't.

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RE: Anniversary update to Windows 10 is working even better after the latest update

[CJ MAY via Talk]

I'd agree.

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RE: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will Surprise You!

[CJ MAY via Talk]

When I got a job as a Rehab. Worker in 1986  I think it was, I started with
a Versabraille. It was supposed to be portable but in truth was too bulky
and heavy to lug around. I stuck with that for about three years, so it was
probably about 1990 when I got my first computer which was DOS-based and
loaded with Word Perfect and Vocal-eyes. 

When DOS was discontinued there were forecasts of doom and gloom for sight
impaired people as they said there would be no way that a blind person would
ever be able to use a Window-based computer with all its graphics etc.

And yet here we are, and although technology advances at an ever-alarming
pace, thanks to companies like G w Micro (or should I now say AI Squared?)
and Freedom Scientific, we have good access to the internet and most of the
commonly used programmes. 

Personally I don't mourne the death of DOS but I can appreciate why some
might.

Alison

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RE: chiming

[CJ MAY via Talk]

Since installing the latest version of Window-eyes and the Anniversary
version of Windows 10, Anything and almost everything chimes! For example,
many e-mails chime when I open them, especially if a message comes up that
lines have been stripped, and again it will chime to tell me when I had
previously replied to a message. 

If it was a gentle little ping, it would be more tolerable than a chime loud
enough to hear two rooms away - smile!

The chimes are often useful alerts so I am wondering if there are ways of
modifying when you get alert chimes?

Alison

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