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wow, didn't think this thing still worked. Not sure what the point is since Window-eyes is no longer available but it does work. contact me on Linked in <https://www.linkedin.com/in/profile-bmoore123>> or Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123> -- On 2023-08-28 7:17 a.m., Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Sent from my iPhone ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visithttp://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/admin%40screenreview.org. For subscription options, visithttp://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found athttp://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
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RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
I got the demo of it to work just fine. Was considering getting a code. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 9:53 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Nobody was referring to JAWS. I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use with Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a > licensed version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new > computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting > up the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their > server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence > and none were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On > Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws > in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as > anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as > well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a > way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, > but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change% 2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvisper
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Nobody was referring to JAWS. I was referring to the Code Factory version of Eloquence that one can use with Window-Eyes, Narrator and other compatible Screen Readers. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:43 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change% 2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435 %7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC 4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C ta=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did
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If yours is still working, that's great. However I have not been able to activate any of my licenses for over a year now. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio > games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr > een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df > 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG > Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 > 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D > =0 > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook
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Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Well Darrell, If you take a listen to any text of your choosing with JAWS, and compare the same reading with Window-Eyes, you can definitely hear the difference. JAWS Eloquence barely completes the last word of any sentence, then rapidly moves right to the first word in the next with virtually no pause or letup. And no, all of the applied settings at JAW's command will not help with this apparently programmed defect. If I wish to speed up my reading on my own, I can certainly do so, but I simply don't need to have my reading done at a pace that would drive me nuts if a human reader did the same. As many varieties of readers commercial or staff that the Talking Book program uses, I have encountered none that would read in that manner. This is something I simply cannot put up with, or abide. On 3/23/2023 4:43 PM, Darrell Bowles via Talk wrote: What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
What do you mean that eloquence for JAWS doesn't read properly? Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 5:41 PM To: Amanda Lee via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: > Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed > version of Microsoft Office. > > I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it > was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up > the computer. > > The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server > for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none > were fully used. > > That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Darrell Bowles via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Darrell Bowles > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. > Thanks, > Darrell > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk On Behalf > Of Amanda Lee via Talk > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com > Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this > petition. > > It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing > businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but > a hostile demand. > > What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed > version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as > that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed > owners of the software. > > I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another > Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. > > Kind regards, > > Amanda Lee > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Sky Mundell via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Sky Mundell > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to > fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won't make a difference. Here it is. > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=P%2BXP0HhN0MeoEnuaWSMhO2bmVRPtxGzTStjthKmHZyQ%3D=0. > org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th > e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 > 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 > 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI > 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B > glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7Cc238107d545e4280ea5008db2be76492%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638152045042253530%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=tiecBkP2Cq827TmeWt71SyXrgdjk
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Amanda, Please!, Please!, say it isn't so! Has Code Factory shut down their server permanently, or is this a temporary problem. I must say that I really like Eloquence, but haven't been totally satisfied with either Code Factory's version, nor that which comes with JAWS. The one problem I find with the factory's version is that it goes past my most comfortable WE reading speed of 41 to either a step or so below or above. And JAWS Eloquence doesn't pause appropriately between sentences, which doesn't seem to bother enough users for Vispairo (spelling) to do anything about it. Sure wish I hadn't gotten rid of, or maybe lost would be more like it, my version of Window-Eyes with an independent version of Eloquence, so that I might be able to use it with any screen reader, at least theoretically anyway. I really might be much more willing to completely switch over to either JAWS or NVDA if I could only hear Eloquence the way I wish to hear it. On 3/23/2023 2:42 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future.
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello, Yes, I get the evaluation message, and my outlook enhanced app isn't working. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:42 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=E5CiZ804XvHpv2lIaszcWzrJ%2BIgh%2BV8Vhds0Vq%2FW7Uk%3D=0. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0 games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C7ae94aa6ed4c4c8f9f0408db2bd6bfc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151973555956210%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=nqoRfjweo4rs1ppftwsf%2FqVj6uqpzhsWZgjqsbD2NMA%3D=0 games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootu
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Actually Window-Eyes for Office still works, provided you have a licensed version of Microsoft Office. I had some issues for awhile, but when I recently set up a new computer, it was really easiest for me to run the file and use it to finish setting up the computer. The annoying issue though is that Code Factory has shut down their server for the three different licenses that I purchased for Eloquence and none were fully used. That's not related to GW Micro or Vispero. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Darrell Bowles Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change. org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-th e-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d6228 4c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6381519031 43996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI 6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2B glfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-scr een-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df 9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbG Zsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3 000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D =0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audio games.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-on to-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZs b3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C300 0%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D& reserved=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window -eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fskyt%2540shaw.ca=05%7C 01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435% 7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJ QIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EbNC2uj4we WpYVP59kxgPiSKZTuj8SEVp5F3%2B39bHnY%3D=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.
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I wish that windowe eyes for office still worked. Thanks, Darrell -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Amanda Lee via Talk Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 1:45 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: amandainparadise...@gmail.com Subject: RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don't think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won't make a difference. Here it is. https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.change.org%2Fp%2Fvispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=uwNEqT%2B6ml6mAsmH0e9S34jlK%2BglfV8941DmxBtQU90%3D=0 Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F47955%2Fwhy-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=rTHSQ69hxEJLtT1EQqlG7Gj9%2F5QZgekc5bGNcAITgPQ%3D=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.audiogames.net%2Ftopic%2F41363%2Fpetition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market%2F=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=2%2Fujj2W9DTqagau%2BOnXY5q1wD71c%2Bh%2F%2B3jZm1qBD%2FEI%3D=0 > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fskyt%2540shaw.ca=05%7C01%7C%7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C=EbNC2uj4weWpYVP59kxgPiSKZTuj8SEVp5F3%2B39bHnY%3D=0. > For subscription options, visit > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists. > window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=05%7C01%7C% > 7C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435% > 7C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM > DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C > a=BSTSFJskUtugO41n0SW5YwPzPcK4bM4edaxugaAXNlk%3D=0 > List archives can be found at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists. > window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com=05%7C01%7C%7 > C3706991d62284c7ed22508db2bc659be%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7 > C1%7C0%7C638151903143996065%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMD > AiLCJQIjoiV2luM
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Unfortunately, although I agree with the sentiments, there are flaws in this petition. It is not going to occur, that if a company purchased other competing businesses to promote their own, that they will regard this as anything but a hostile demand. What I would like to see however, is that at least the fully developed version of Window-Eyes was still available to purchase or upgrade as well as that itps related apps and software is made available for access to licensed owners of the software. I wish you luck and hope that I am incorrect that Vispero will allow another Screen Reader to compete with JAWS or Fusion. Kind regards, Amanda Lee -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:02 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadise777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE Evaluation copy problem
Thanks for all your help. I saved the fix to a text file and then accidentally deleted all the emails so I cannot reply to the emails directly. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
By earlier experience: When this kind of behavior has shown up in the past - this it seems to do every now and then - all I have had to do is to hard-boot my computer. That is shut it all down, and start it up again. Seems waking it up from sleep mode does not work, as it will only reload memory. Even restarting it, warm-booting, seems not to do the trick. Have no clue why it pops up once in a while. Get a feeling it happens upon some update installations of Windows itself. From: Talk on behalf of Mike via Talk Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 2:06 PM To: Stephen Clower via Talk Cc: Mike Subject: Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked. Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line and changed it from a 1 to a 0. Best wishe Mike On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: > Greetings, > > To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the > following: > > 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. > 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. > 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: > AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 > 4. Save the file. > 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and > set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. > 6. Restart the program. > > Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me > from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps > someone. > > Best, > Steve > > >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk >> wrote: >> >> If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... >> ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of >> Window-Eyes. >> This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Talk >> On Behalf >> Of Stephen Clower via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List >> >> Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy >> >> Hi all, >> >> It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related >> pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the >> errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, >> and the like are completely busted now. >> >> Steve >> >> >>> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk >> wrote: >>> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, >>> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup >>> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square >> office. >>> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop >>> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and >>> if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 >>> update that is causing the problem and if so which update? >>> >>> Thanks for any suggestions. >>> -- >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- >> audio.net. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi >> se777%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai
Re: Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello I have tried the suggestion for a fix and it seems to have worked. Instead of adding a line under misc, I simply edited the existing line and changed it from a 1 to a 0. Best wishe Mike On 21/03/2023 21:01, Stephen Clower via Talk wrote: Greetings, To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the following: 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 4. Save the file. 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. 6. Restart the program. Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps someone. Best, Steve On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of Window-Eyes. This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Stephen Clower via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- audio.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Mr. Clower, wow, so good to read from you in this space! Reading your thoughts in this space brings back yesterday's memories when you and Gerry and Mike amongst others were helping me and my company with making the Moneygram app more accessible using Window-Eyes! Thank you for the great work you all did. I plan to LEAVE THIS LIST soon, but I wanted to be able to say THANK YOU to as many GW Micro employees in this space as possible that made sure I stayed SUBSTANTIALLY GAINFULLY EMPLOYED. I am internally and externally grateful to you all; no other screen reader has helped me TO BEAT THE ODDS, only Window-Eyes! I sure hope that some sweet day, it can still be resuscitated in my life time. Take care sire, God richly bless and keep you all!! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado HI, I AM ANDROID, THE THINKING PERSON'S OS!! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
setup files for the latest window-eyes for office in english and german?
Hello, i have an old PC, runing windows 7 and office 2010. I looking for the old installation files for window eyes for office in german and english languages. Has everyone the files and can send me them via dropbox link? Regards Armin Moradi ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
There is a button that you can use to sign it -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 5:50 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: goshawk on horseback Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Importance: High can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition. Simon - Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Sky Mundell" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way > to fix the problem. > Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it > probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. > https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad > Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net > forum > https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ > > https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on >> Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I >> have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. >> >> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working >> in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what >> is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is >> causing the problem and if so which update? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/goshawk_on_horseback%40fastmail.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
can't seem to find any link or button to sign the petition. Simon - Original Message - From: "Sky Mundell via Talk" To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" Cc: "Sky Mundell" Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:01 PM Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/goshawk_on_horseback%40fastmail.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello David. I hate to break it to you, but I don’t think there is a way to fix the problem. Speaking of W.E, I did a petition to Vispero to try to get it back, but it probably won’t make a difference. Here it is. https://www.change.org/p/vispero-petition-to-get-the-window-eyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market-b135ee08-520d-4e6d-a4b4-1bd4cfad81ad Then, after I did the petition, I put the petition on the audio games.net forum https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/47955/why-i-did-the-petition-to-get-the-windoweyes-screen-reader-back/ https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/41363/petition-to-get-windoweyes-screen-reader-back-onto-the-market/ > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:51 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Possible fix, was Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Greetings, To work around the evaluation copy error message when WE starts up, do the following: 1. From the Window-Eyes control panel, go to File -> Explore Profile Folder. 2. Open the wineyes.ini file. 3. Add the following line to the [misc] section: AllowUpgradeCheckOnStartup=0 4. Save the file. 5. Back in Window-Eyes, go through each running app under the Apps menu, and set them all to no longer check for updates at startup. 6. Restart the program. Once done, you should, in theory, be all set. This tip was passed along to me from a reliable source who would prefer to remain anonymous. I hope it helps someone. Best, Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 2:44 PM, Amanda Lee via Talk > wrote: > > If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... > ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of > Window-Eyes. > This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Talk > On Behalf > Of Stephen Clower via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List > > Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy > > Hi all, > > It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related > pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the > errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, > and the like are completely busted now. > > Steve > > >> On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: >> >> I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, >> on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup >> that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square > office. >> >> So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop >> working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and >> if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 >> update that is causing the problem and if so which update? >> >> Thanks for any suggestions. >> -- >> >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- > audio.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi > se777%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
If you have Office installed, WE for Office may still work. So ... ironically! It might work albeit it is older than the last release of Window-Eyes. This is so unfortunate and it's ... well, there are no words. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Stephen Clower via Talk Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 2:07 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Stephen Clower ; Window Eyes Email List Subject: Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, > on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup > that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop > working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and > if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 > update that is causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve- audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/amandainparadi se777%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hi all, It appears that Vispero have completely taken down all GW Micro-related pages and services without any warning. This is likely the reason for the errant message on startup. I expect checking for updates, downloading apps, and the like are completely busted now. Steve > On Mar 21, 2023, at 12:51 PM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40steve-audio.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello: Is any waI cobtain a copy of WW-EyesI’d love to have a copy. Regards, Ernest. ∫∫dow∫∫the Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2023, at 9:52 AM, David Hoff Jr via Talk > wrote: > > I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on > Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I > have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. > > So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working > in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what > is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is > causing the problem and if so which update? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > -- > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/personalmail4me%40duck.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
Hello David I'm not sure there is a solution. I am using windows 10 and 11. I am getting exactly the same issue on both machines. I am very sorry to say that I have come to the conclsion that Window-eyes is almost at the end of it's life. I hope I am wrong but I don't think so. Rod suggested that it sounds like Microsoft isn't supporting WE any more. Best wishes Mike. On 21/03/2023 16:51, David Hoff Jr via Talk wrote: I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
WE suddenly notifying me I have an evaluation copy
I have the latest version of WE (9.5.4.0), install several years ago, on Windows 7. About a week ago I started getting a notice at bootup that I have an evaluation copy only and should contact the I Square office. So far this is just an irritant, but I am concerned it may stop working in the near future. Has anyone else had a similar problem and if so what is the sollution? Is it possibly a Microsoft Windows 7 update that is causing the problem and if so which update? Thanks for any suggestions. -- ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Prompt
Hi Mike, I am inclined to suggest that you somehow reset the form. The easiest method may be to run down to the bottom of the page and see if you can find a reset form button. Alternatively, try to return to the page From a clean link, that is, not from a bookmark that you may have saved. This latter suggestion might be a bit more complicated, but the idea is to get the website to serve you up a brand spanking new copy of the form. Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Nov 11, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Mike via Talk wrote: > > Hello > > > > I am having a problem after running into difficulties on a Web Site. > > > > Whilst trying to register on the site which included typing in my county. > Now WE keeps saying northamptonshire as I tab or move up and down links. I > must have typed at the wrong time or in the wrong place. How do I stop it? > > > > With thanks > > > > Mike > > -- > Mike Gurney > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: window-eyes, logon screen screen.
Hi Curtis, Actually, this is quite a difficult problem to solve, but, if you have a significant amount of courage and patience, you can certainly do it. Here is a link to a GW micro support knowledge base article which details the procedure: http://www.gwmicro.com/Support/Knowledge_Base/?kbnumber=GWKB2012 Interestingly, it is nice to see that the knowledge base is still up and running. (Smile) Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod On Nov 11, 2022, at 2:25 PM, Curtis Delzer via Talk wrote: In windows ten which I run, window-eyes has it seems 2 "default" configurations, (1) at logon default? and (2) another default at the windows after logon. I wish Window-Eyes to load my triple talk synth at the logon screen, and maybe eloquence after logon. How to set that up? Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 9/6/2020 3:35 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or >uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no >longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they >had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very >surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes >server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update >server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes >working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the
Prompt
Hello I am having a problem after running into difficulties on a Web Site. Whilst trying to register on the site which included typing in my county. Now WE keeps saying northamptonshire as I tab or move up and down links. I must have typed at the wrong time or in the wrong place. How do I stop it? With thanks Mike -- Mike Gurney ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Test only
Testing! -- Mike Gurney ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes, logon screen screen.
In windows ten which I run, window-eyes has it seems 2 "default" configurations, (1) at logon default? and (2) another default at the windows after logon. I wish Window-Eyes to load my triple talk synth at the logon screen, and maybe eloquence after logon. How to set that up? Curtis Delzer H.S. K6VFO Rialto, CA cur...@calweb.com On 9/6/2020 3:35 AM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Tom, I am running Window-Eyes with build 2004 on both Windows 10 Home and Pro with no problems. At one time, there were a number .of apps which cause errors and prevented Window-Eyes from even starting. You can get Window-Eyes to start without apps running by starting Window-Eyes and then immediately holding down the Shift key and holding it down until it starts. In the Window-Eyes control panel, in the Apps menu, there is an option called App Management. If you then open App Management using right arrow, the first option is called App Status. You can then press right arrow again and then one of three options wil always be checked, On, Off, or Manual. Indeed, holding down the Shift key when you start Window-Eyes sets Apps to Manual. Normally, it will be set to On, and once you disable whatever apps you think may be causing problems, you would set it to On. A while back, the following apps caused me problems until I disabled them, although they don't seem to be doing so now. Anyway, you could disable all of these, and Window-Eyes will work fine. Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced You would then just set your app status back to On and you should be good to go. You should also probably shut down and then restart Window-Eyes. Good luck, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Tom via Talk Sent: September 4, 2020 2:57 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Tom Subject: Re: Win 10 And WE 9.5.4 Rod, Are you using Windows 10 Pro? In fact, for everybody who have WE 10 working with WE 9.5.4 wonder which version of Windows you are using. I am using Windows 10 pro and could that be the difference? Window-Eyef won't even load for me in 10, it displays four or five balloons it immediately shuts down. I don't even have a chance to turn off apps. The tech who installed 9.5.4 for me was kind of baffled although he did do some kind work around but when he left the work around stopped going around, ha. Tom ** Your Message ** >Hi Tom, > >At one time, there were a few apps which needed to be either disabled or uninstalled in order for Window-Eyes to work in Windows 10. >On my current system, which runs the latest version of Windows 10, this is no longer true. >Without exception, every default Window-Eyes app is running here. >A few months back, someone had written to this list with the news that they had even gotten an app update from the Window-Eyes server. >No doubt, this was because they had an outdated app, but I recall being very surprised to hear that app updates where available from the old Window-Eyes server. >I know for certain that there was a time when the Window-Eyes app update server was not active. >My guess is that there is some guardian angel or angels keeping Window-Eyes working for the many people throughout the world who need it. >I am one of those who need it. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/curtis%40calweb.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Thunderbird problem
Hello Larry Thank you for your reply. I found Thunderbird became more and more difficult to use after version 60.4.0 and so, I eventually went back to that version. It works well with my 64 bit laptop apart from the editing problems I mentioned previously. I agree WE is becoming less and less useful but I often find We works with somethings that other screen readers cannot cope with. I am intending to keep it on my machines so long as it is useful. Best wishes Mike - G0VMG Mike Gurney On 30/10/2022 16:50, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Mike, Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as time goes on. As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have to select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end combo ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all of this at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not chosen to upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. As it is, I have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any significant use of Thunderbird. Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or html file, but what a PITA. Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp scripts, and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not like the reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I will have to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM Eloquence with NVDA, and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of same with either screen reader for some reason. Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite sure that is just about all it is worth . Have a great day, Larry On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote: Hello Everyone Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue. For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to edit or modify the text I am writing. Writing continuously there isn't any difficulties. However, if I need to cursor up to check what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line. I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly keeps reading them. Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then copying it across. Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also becoming a problem. With thanks Mike. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/kazejaed%40runbox.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Thunderbird problem
Mike, Although I sure hope that someone has a satisfactory solution to your issue, I'm afraid that WE is simply becoming less and less usable as time goes on. As for me and Thunderbird, If I wish to simply read a message, I have to select the entire message with ctrl+a, and use the read to end combo ctrl+shift+r, but there is really no way to use the editor, all of this at least with the 64bit version. Chances are that if I had not chosen to upgrade in this way, Thunderbird would be more manageable. As it is, I have to move to either The Fish, or NVDA to make any significant use of Thunderbird. Another way to read text in a message is to save to either a text or html file, but what a PITA. Frankly, the thing tha t keeps me attached to WE is the Winamp scripts, and not least, WE's version of Eloquence. I really do not like the reading pace of Eloquence with JAWS, and increasingly NVDA. I will have to admit though, to using an illegal version of IBM Eloquence with NVDA, and can't make use of my Code Factory edition of same with either screen reader for some reason. Anyway, that is only my two cents worth on the matter, and I'm quite sure that is just about all it is worth . Have a great day, Larry On 10/30/2022 7:46 AM, Mike via Talk wrote: Hello Everyone Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue. For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to edit or modify the text I am writing. Writing continuously there isn't any difficulties. However, if I need to cursor up to check what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line. I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly keeps reading them. Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then copying it across. Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also becoming a problem. With thanks Mike. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Thunderbird problem
Hello Everyone Continuing the thread of email, I have a different issue. For a couple of years now Thunderbird is proving almost impossible to edit or modify the text I am writing. Writing continuously there isn't any difficulties. However, if I need to cursor up to check what I have written, I then start to get duplicate lines. Usually, there is just one additional line but if I need to go up or down repeatedly, I will get more and more copies of the same line. I don't think these extra lines are actually there but WE certainly keeps reading them. Sometimes I have to resort to writing the text in notepad and then copying it across. Since I moved to Windows 11 notepad is also becoming a problem. With thanks Mike. -- Mike Gurney ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: speech friendly email client
Hi Butch, Indeed, referring to the post by Steve Jacobson, it occurs that were you to forward your email to Gmail, you could still use Becky. Also, Windows mail comes with windows 10. Although the last time I tried it, it was a bit of a hassle, it is free and all you have to do is configure it. Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Oct 29, 2022, at 6:29 PM, BK via Talk wrote: > Hello, I have been using Becky as my email client. But because of security > upgrades with my ISP, which is Comcast, I am probably going to have to > switch to a newer email program. Can someone recommend a speech friendly > email client for windows 10? Thanks for any help. > > Butch > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: speech friendly email client
Butch, You may have to switch, but please know that Becky does support the relatively new OAUTH2 or whatever it is that Gmail requires. You might have to upgrade to the latest version of Becky to get it, though. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of BK via Talk Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2022 5:28 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: BK Subject: speech friendly email client Hello, I have been using Becky as my email client. But because of security upgrades with my ISP, which is Comcast, I am probably going to have to switch to a newer email program. Can someone recommend a speech friendly email client for windows 10? Thanks for any help. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fsteve.jacobson%2540outlook.comdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4f45d8b5f07142a659fc08dab9fd1d78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026794018238573%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=EOjIpMpUK8QmT%2B4CfQwfV6TjfJLe%2FiBKOhZFVTxP0q8%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4f45d8b5f07142a659fc08dab9fd1d78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026794018238573%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=102IMLSa71aNyo%2FtqcF12g48aOJNsmB7FbqCMZi9RVc%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=05%7C01%7C%7C4f45d8b5f07142a659fc08dab9fd1d78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638026794018238573%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=rez4eJMBF9VPjqIElpFXzigd%2BOVHxHalR7Yw5xZOh50%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
speech friendly email client
Hello, I have been using Becky as my email client. But because of security upgrades with my ISP, which is Comcast, I am probably going to have to switch to a newer email program. Can someone recommend a speech friendly email client for windows 10? Thanks for any help. Butch ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes
Here's a link to the zip archive of all the apps. https://www.dropbox.com/s/akqmqrtapo9o2m6/WineyesApps.zip?dl=1 -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Drew Clark via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 1:29 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Drew Clark Subject: duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes hi, anyone having the archive of apps/script for window eyes, can you send me the duxbury / dbt script for window eyes? thanks a lot. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom.kingston%4 0charter.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
duxbury braille translator (dbt) script / app for window-eyes
hi, anyone having the archive of apps/script for window eyes, can you send me the duxbury / dbt script for window eyes? thanks a lot. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
window-eyes for office installer
Hi, i am looking for the installer of window-eyes for office. the real site to get this of course is not working now. so anyone have this, hope it can be shared here with me. thanks in advance ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Set Files
Hi bob, Actually, there is no easy or one step method of updating set files; Specifically, this in vaults updating apps for specific programs. Therefore, the preinstalled Apps must be updated individually. As for configuring a set file, or indeed writing an app to improve a programs accessibility, this can be a complex process. I am certainly familiar with window Eyes, having written a number of apps myself. If you wish, we could discuss all of this on the phone. You may reach me directly at: rod_hut...@hotmail.com Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Aug 22, 2022, at 7:22 AM, rgarrett5--- via Talk > wrote: > Greetings, > > > > Does anyone have a file that I could import in to WE with the most updated > set files? Even if I check that I want to update a set file, WE doesn't > update. > > > > Also, I recently had to replace my computer I use for my Ham Radio activity. > I had a .set file that I developed for using my logging program DX4Win. It > was lost in the process. > > > > So, it has been many years since I customized a set file. Any instructions > on how to do so would be really appreciated. > > > > Thanks, Bob K3UL > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Set Files
Greetings, Does anyone have a file that I could import in to WE with the most updated set files? Even if I check that I want to update a set file, WE doesn't update. Also, I recently had to replace my computer I use for my Ham Radio activity. I had a .set file that I developed for using my logging program DX4Win. It was lost in the process. So, it has been many years since I customized a set file. Any instructions on how to do so would be really appreciated. Thanks, Bob K3UL ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: timer script you wrote for me
Hi Butch, Well, I didn’t bother trying the NVDA Add on because I am now running Windows 11 and you are running Windows 7 and who knows whether they would behave the same way anyway. Anyway, I decided to create a stand alone script for you which can be used regardless which screen reader you are using, or, indeed, whether you are using a screen reader at all. Here is the link to the zip archive in my dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdahfiylgj4ef3w/ButchTimer.zip?dl=<https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdahfiylgj4ef3w/ButchTimer.zip?dl=0>1 just run the file with the dot VBS file extension and you’re off to the races. Enjoy, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 14, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Butch Bussen wrote: I couldn't get it to work at all. Tried to put in ten imutes and kept saying error on that screen, then no matter whaqt program wanted an input, it was huong up there. I finall had to start nvda without addons and dump it. It said alt a and had up down to pick hours, minutes or seconds, nothing I did let me enter anything. I'll just keep reloading windoweyes ai guess as that script does exactly what I need it to do. Thanks. If you figure it out, let me know how to enter a time. On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I found an NVDA add-on which is quite impressive and has the identical announcement functionality which the app I had written for you has when using window eyes, That is, it can chime or even announce the time every 10 minutes. If you are interested , here is the link: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clock.en.html Let me know what you think. Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. I have dual boot on this machine, but usually run seven. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, Yes, well, Winamp would have to be open in order to be playing. Also, I assume you were running Windows 10? If so, I could probably look for a free or relatively inexpensive timer app which would do the trick. If you don’t care about the interface, I could probably write a batch file with a command line audio player playing the files I mentioned. It’s really up to your personal preference. All the best, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. I didn't know what was involved. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.
Re: timer script you wrote for me
I couldn't get it to work at all. Tried to put in ten imutes and kept saying error on that screen, then no matter whaqt program wanted an input, it was huong up there. I finall had to start nvda without addons and dump it. It said alt a and had up down to pick hours, minutes or seconds, nothing I did let me enter anything. I'll just keep reloading windoweyes ai guess as that script does exactly what I need it to do. Thanks. If you figure it out, let me know how to enter a time. On Sun, 13 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I found an NVDA add-on which is quite impressive and has the identical announcement functionality which the app I had written for you has when using window eyes, That is, it can chime or even announce the time every 10 minutes. If you are interested , here is the link: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clock.en.html Let me know what you think. Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. I have dual boot on this machine, but usually run seven. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, Yes, well, Winamp would have to be open in order to be playing. Also, I assume you were running Windows 10? If so, I could probably look for a free or relatively inexpensive timer app which would do the trick. If you don’t care about the interface, I could probably write a batch file with a command line audio player playing the files I mentioned. It’s really up to your personal preference. All the best, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. I didn't know what was involved. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai
Re: timer script you wrote for me
Hi Butch, I found an NVDA add-on which is quite impressive and has the identical announcement functionality which the app I had written for you has when using window eyes, That is, it can chime or even announce the time every 10 minutes. If you are interested , here is the link: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clock.en.html Let me know what you think. Good luck, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 6:55 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. I have dual boot on this machine, but usually run seven. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, Yes, well, Winamp would have to be open in order to be playing. Also, I assume you were running Windows 10? If so, I could probably look for a free or relatively inexpensive timer app which would do the trick. If you don’t care about the interface, I could probably write a batch file with a command line audio player playing the files I mentioned. It’s really up to your personal preference. All the best, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. I didn't know what was involved. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window
Re: timer script you wrote for me
73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. I have dual boot on this machine, but usually run seven. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, Yes, well, Winamp would have to be open in order to be playing. Also, I assume you were running Windows 10? If so, I could probably look for a free or relatively inexpensive timer app which would do the trick. If you don’t care about the interface, I could probably write a batch file with a command line audio player playing the files I mentioned. It’s really up to your personal preference. All the best, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. I didn't know what was involved. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: timer script you wrote for me
Hi Butch, Yes, well, Winamp would have to be open in order to be playing. Also, I assume you were running Windows 10? If so, I could probably look for a free or relatively inexpensive timer app which would do the trick. If you don’t care about the interface, I could probably write a batch file with a command line audio player playing the files I mentioned. It’s really up to your personal preference. All the best, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Mar 12, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk > wrote: > > I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? > Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. > I didn't know what was involved. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > >> On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: >> >> Hi Butch, >> >> I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. >> Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. >> If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised >> of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the >> second a little file which sounds the alarm,. >> Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media >> player on. >> So, on your media player, you press play. >> If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , >> If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the >> alarm sound. >> Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. >> So simple, a? >> If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you >> can execute it whenever you like. >> The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting >> Winamp to execute playlist files. >> Let me know what you think. >> >> Take care, >> >> Rod >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often >>> run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone >>> program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for >>> doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net >>> or >>> but...@fairpoint.net >>> >>> Thanks. >>> 73 >>> Butch >>> WA0VJR >>> Node 3148 >>> Wallace, ks. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: timer script you wrote for me
I suppose tht would work, but wouldn't I have to keep that window open? Also, the timer is nice as it goes off on the ten minute mark. I didn't know what was involved. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Sat, 12 Mar 2022, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: timer script you wrote for me
Hi Butch, I appreciate your willingness to compensate me for writing a nap for you. Actually, I think the solution is simpler than the need to write an app. If you use Winamp, for example, you could create A simple playlist comprised of two files, one being silent and the length of the timer you need, and the second a little file which sounds the alarm,. Then, it is simply a matter of turning the repeat function of your media player on. So, on your media player, you press play. If you don’t hear anything, then probably the silent file is playing, and , If you like, you press next track, in which case you would probably hear the alarm sound. Then, the playlist wraps around and starts playing the silent file again. So simple, a? If you save the little playlist as a Winamp playlist or M3U playlist, you can execute it whenever you like. The key to using the playlist is the file association, that is, Setting Winamp to execute playlist files. Let me know what you think. Take care, Rod Sent from my iPod > On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk > wrote: > > I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often > run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone > program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for > doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net > or > but...@fairpoint.net > > Thanks. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
timer script you wrote for me
I use that script daily, but have to load window-eyes to run it. I often run nvda these days. You had mentioned once about makeing a stand alone program. If possible, what would it involve. I'd pay you something for doing it. Reply to but...@shellworld.net or but...@fairpoint.net Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: turning off browse mode in Chrome?
Hi Butch, Don’t mind me since I’m a couple of weeks behind in my look at this list, my friend. Smile. As memory serves, the hot key is Ctrl-Insert-F as in foxtrot.. All the best, Rod Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Butch Bussen Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 11:56:10 PM To: Rod Hutton via Talk Cc: Rod Hutton Subject: Re: turning off browse mode in Chrome? Hello Rod. I asked the other day, and if there was an answer, I missed it. What is the hot key to labele custom controls. I"m drawing a blank. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: turning off browse mode in Chrome?
Hello Rod. I asked the other day, and if there was an answer, I missed it. What is the hot key to labele custom controls. I"m drawing a blank. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: turning off browse mode in Chrome?
Hi John, As with any browser, the Window Eyes hot key for toggling browse mode is Ctrl-Shift-A while for JFW, it is Insert Z. Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Talk on behalf of john schwery via Talk Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 8:45:03 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: john schwery Subject: turning off browse mode in Chrome? >How does one turn off browse mode in Chrome? And how does one turn >it back on? Thanks. John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: copying to clipboard
I'm having a total memory loss. What is the command to assign a custom control. Thanks. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Butch, You?re not dreaming. Smile. As memory serves, you can windowize the window, meaning that you can change the window from its maximized state into a windowed state. This is done using alt spacebar. Once you do that, you have activated the control menu and the down Arrow Will navigate to the option called edit. This enables editing options such as selecting text within a window, whereby you can then copy the screen contents to the clipboard. I hope this helps, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:10 AM To: Tom Kingston via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: copying to clipboard I sometimes still run teraterm, and I was think there use to be a way to highlight stuff on the screen with window-eyes and copy to the clipboard, but I don't remember how. Am I dreaming? I get an error when trying to ssh into a particular address and want to copy the error. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I have never seen DecTalk 32 sold by itself. I only saw it come in Kurtweil and in window eyes as part of the program. Pam. -Original Message- From: Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 12:43 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Micallef Michael at FITA Subject: RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi pamela, To say the truth I have the window-eyes with dectalk integrated but the dectalk I can't use it with other screen reader programs such as the NVDA. For me dectalk was one of the best speech synthesizers ever made. -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2022 12:30 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Pamela Dominguez Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 CAUTION: This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. On mine, I hear DecTalk. But it depends. On newer versions, they couldn't get a decTalk license, or something, so people who bought it towards the end of its life got vocalizer. I don't know what that sounds like. But if you had window eyes already and you just went to update it, you could still get DecTalk. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 1:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=zC7UU9n%2BjDsUBsIeI8FcjCDwYJhElsDJQH90iMVIutc%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fmichael.micallef%2540gov.mtdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=9r93JPO9%2BnAwYpLMa4I7yLuwIJCr8nHdW66eAXEJjHY%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=uKfrpJY9YOnkr84H9SkDSg4OtlQ%2FHJnTRXtnNRhjGFs%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C07c610a4b89d4d765c1e08d9d4f5ae6a%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774974839723823%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=m2wQ7ASvWygdWnL%2FryYFSPMGDaoWpDUam8M0K9fhXaY%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
On mine, I hear DecTalk. But it depends. On newer versions, they couldn't get a decTalk license, or something, so people who bought it towards the end of its life got vocalizer. I don't know what that sounds like. But if you had window eyes already and you just went to update it, you could still get DecTalk. Pam. -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 1:47 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Nick Sarames Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Dear pamela, I'm michael from Malta Europe, Please may I ask you from where I can buy the dectalk access32 software speech synthesizer if it is still available somewhere? thanks -Original Message- From: Talk On Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Monday, 10 January 2022 18:23 To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 CAUTION: This email originated from OUTSIDE the Government Email Infrastructure. DO NOT CLICK LINKS or OPEN attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: > That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than > eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when > they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they > had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as > the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the > first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of > those evas things with dos in it. Pam. > > -Original Message----- From: Larry Higgins via Talk > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM > To: Nick Sarames via Talk > Cc: Larry Higgins > Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 > > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fmichael.micallef%2540gov.mtdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=lej6X8byAXixS22bD8sZFl%2Fwc%2BTm3oniI6pAwuYixqc%3Dreserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=8WKty4pwf1Yeio1BEmv5GlctuY%2FO%2BVbaoFxTnnAx%2FqY%3Dreserved=0 List archives can be found at https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.comdata=04%7C01%7Cmichael.micallef%40gov.mt%7C26c628ab1400405020f308d9d45dfb77%7C34cdd9f55db849bcacba01f65cca680d%7C0%7C0%7C637774323044342418%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=6oTVaH10oOgmMswO07V43XS1%2F17neZ3PZs2q%2FAm%2FyR8%3Dreserved=0 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Which voice is the one you might hear on WE startup? It sounds like the synthesizer is speaking English with an accent. On 1/10/2022 12:23 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nicksarames%40msn.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Ah yes Rick, what you say is so true. I wish everyone whose found comfort and satisfaction with a particular voice to be able to keep and maintain it. I just wish the people at FS would take seriously this pacing issue. I really can't believe that so many people can be satisfied with such unnatural verbal delivery. I really don't wish to argue about this, because I, at least on this issue, know that my mind can never be changed, not out of stubbornness, but on the knowledge that most people do not speak like JAWS speaks or reads in natural conversation. With that, I will wish everyone a safe and happy day , Larry On 1/10/2022 8:58 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: I have had triple talk USB for manyh years, and I use it with wineyes all the time and for my money it pronounces every word correctly, and does well with punctuation. Even though it does not have a human voice it is very easy to understand. I do have deck talk usb too, but I do not like it because it sounds like it has way to much to drink. When I use JAWS I use Kloe for my voice. She seems to be the clearest of all the voices with the exception of David. Either way there are some good synths, and some really poor ones. I guess it comes down to which one a person prefers. Regards Rick On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Glad ya like it, and I hope you never lose it. On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I have had triple talk USB for manyh years, and I use it with wineyes all the time and for my money it pronounces every word correctly, and does well with punctuation. Even though it does not have a human voice it is very easy to understand. I do have deck talk usb too, but I do not like it because it sounds like it has way to much to drink. When I use JAWS I use Kloe for my voice. She seems to be the clearest of all the voices with the exception of David. Either way there are some good synths, and some really poor ones. I guess it comes down to which one a person prefers. Regards Rick On 1/10/2022 8:35 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
That's really weird. DecTalk is so much clearer and louder than eloquence. It's even better if you have an external one; because when they made dectalk 32, they apparently lost the original specs, so they had to cobble it together however they could, so it's not as good as the external, but it's still better than eloquence. Artic is the first synthetic speech I had in my first computer, which was one of those evas things with dos in it. Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2022 1:43 PM To: Nick Sarames via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I remember back over 30 years ago, when I was trying to put my first PC together, I thought I just had to have Dectalk, because that is what I heard when getting introduced to OCR stand alone products, such as Kurzweil and Arkenstone. When listening to the Kurzweil stand alone, the synth was Dectalk, while the Arkenstone was being demonstrated to me using Artic BusinessVision. I really hated that Artic speech, but due to financial constraints ended up with Artic anyway, and I actually learned to like it. Now, I don't know if I could ever return to Artic After all of these years (even if it were at all possible), but one thing for certain, I cannot stand Dectalk. On 1/8/2022 12:04 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: Wow! I really like Eloquence, especially compared to (what is it) deck talk? Whatever the WE default speech synthesizer is. On 1/8/2022 11:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Pam, if you are reading email with Thunderbird, you are definitely using browse mode. As a matter of fact, when I go to reply to a message, I must turn off browse mode before I can begin composing the message. Ah, Ive just gotta mention this little funny. When writing the word "composing," I mistakenly wrote the word "composting." Now what I'm telling you about browse mode isn't compost. Try turning on Browse mode and see if that works. Some times the answers and solutions aren't that simple, but who knows, maybe it will work for you. Now as for Eloquence, I'll have to agree with you about the descending pitch in those circumstances, but that isn't quite the deal breaker that the reading delivery is proving to be. And BTW, this issue is not only evident with Eloquence with JFW, but all other synths included with the program as well. I also don't hear the speech as in any way slurred, but if I did, I would also have a problem with it as well. Of course, most of this that we think we hear is indeed quite subjective, with the possible exception of my particular complaint . Long live Eloquence, with all its faults, Larry On 1/8/2022 10:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Wow! I really like Eloquence, especially compared to (what is it) deck talk? Whatever the WE default speech synthesizer is. On 1/8/2022 11:57 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Browse mode to read emails? I'm not doing it on the web. Oh, the thing I don't like about eloquence, which is what jaws has, is not only that it sounds like it's drunk with a plugged up nose, but that if there is no punctuation mark after a certain amount of time, it starts winding down like its batteries are dying. After all these years, they have never fixed that. Shame on them! Pam. -Original Message- From: Larry Higgins via Talk Sent: Friday, January 07, 2022 10:15 AM To: Pamela Dominguez via Talk Cc: Larry Higgins Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Browsers in Windows 10 with WE 9.54
Hi, I have been trying to use Edge instead of IE since it pops up that IE will not be supported. While trying to download a Bible app, WAVE was suggested to be used. Is WAVE better then Edge and what is the difference? Also, will WE work with Google Chrome or Google better than Edge? Thanks for any info! Be blessed! Deborah ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I agree Larry, WE has been my favorite screen reader since it came out. I still use it as much as possible. Regards Rick On 1/7/2022 9:15 AM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Try n v d a. I jump back and forrth between windoweyes and n v d a. n v d a has some nice features, and it is free, although I donate a bit when I download a new copy. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Fri, 7 Jan 2022, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I realize that this might be a long shot, and at the same time, a big duh, but are you sure that browse mode is actually kicking in? Shoot, I guess if this starts happening to me, I would probably be tempted to finally give up on WE altogether. I, like all of us WE die-hards, are still so comfortable with this once great screen reader. I must admit to being a bit timid when it comes to completely submitting to the ways of the shark. The main reason, outside of WE's overall ease of use for sticking with WE has more to do with JAW's read all settings. IMHO, JAWS simply doesn't allow enough of an appropriate pause between the end and beginnings of sentences. It reads in such a way that I simply wouldn't tolerate from a human reader. I mean, if narrators/readers on commercial recordings, or in house so to speak were to read in such a manner, let's just say that they would fail the audition. I say all of this just to say that I am a user of Bookshare, and do quite a bit of reading on my PC, and WE's verbal pacing using Eloquence to me is more human sounding than these more human sounding voices, but only because of the way these people at Vespero (spelling) have chosen to manipulate speech delivery in say all mode. As it stands, when using JAWS, I have to use Code Factory Eloquence, which reads more to my satisfaction, but with another issue. That version of Eloquence simply passes up my favored normal rate of speed of Window-Eyes's 41 to a step or two higher than I' like to read most of the time. I also use IE for DAISY text books, but for little else. WE is just a combination good/bad habit that I know I am ultimately going to have to break, and I'm sure most of you all have come to the same conclusion. There are things that WE will not read that both JAWS and Narrator will, but on rare occasion, WE will still come through, but these are becoming les and less frequent as time goes on. Too bad. Oh well, I've rambled on far longer than I planned too. Don't wish to get into any arguments about all of this. But just suffice it to say, that we sure lost a hell of a great product with a fine company behind it. On 1/7/2022 6:42 AM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
turning off browse mode in Chrome?
How does one turn off browse mode in Chrome? And how does one turn it back on? Thanks. John ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
I am using windows 7 and I have that problem. I checked to see, in the control pannel, whether the set file for thunderbird was at the top, and it was. But I still can't read the body of a message. Pam. -Original Message- From: Rick Jarvis via Talk Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2022 12:47 PM To: Donald Roberts via Talk Cc: Rick Jarvis Subject: Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hello I have had the same problem. I haven't upgraded TB but it seemed to started after an upgrade to Windows 10. Mike Mike Gurney On 07/01/2022 01:44, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Well Bernie, I have a feeling that focus annoyance isn't one of those things that will go away any time soon. I mean, if others find that to be the pain that we do, you think that people would complain in droves, but apparently not. I'm sure glad you got the message body issue worked out though. Hopefully I wont be running into anything as serious as that with the bird round here. Take care and stay safe, Larry On 1/6/2022 5:07 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Well Bernie, I have a feeling that focus annoyance isn't one of those things that will go away any time soon. I mean, if others find that to be the pain that we do, you think that people would complain in droves, but apparently not. I'm sure glad you got the message body issue worked out though. Hopefully I wont be running into anything as serious as that with the bird round here. Take care and stay safe, Larry On 1/6/2022 5:07 PM, Bernie Perella via Talk wrote: Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi Lary, Yes, I have been having the same issue. It is quite annoying. I am not sure when this behavior began. Also, near the end of last November,TB did an upgrade and suddenly I was not able to get any new messages. I think it might have something to do with changing longin procedures on my two email providers I rolled back my system to the checkpoint that was done at the time of the TB upgrade and voila all was well again except for the focus switching issue. Bernie On 1/6/2022 2:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Larry so far I have not encountered that problem. Rick On 1/6/2022 1:41 PM, Larry Higgins via Talk wrote: Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Rick, I, like you, am not experiencing this issue. The one issue I have had to learn to put up with for the past couple of months or so is that Thunderbird losing focus whenever a new message comes onto the mail account/server I happen to be using at the time. Whenever arrowing through a list of messages, no matter which box I might be in, this happens. It throws me back to the first level of mail boxes, more specifically, my inbox. Are by chance you experiencing this issue, and if so, have you found a way around it? PS It just occurred to me that I might be hijacking a thread. If so, I apologize. I certainly hope you have by now solved the original issue. Just hope I don't confront that one in the future. Larry On 1/6/2022 11:47 AM, Rick Jarvis via Talk wrote: Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/larryhiggins22%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Rick here, and I am not having that problem with wineyes and thunderbird. I don't know what settings I have, but I am able to read everything with no problems. Wish I could help you regards Rick On 10/22/2021 2:07 PM, Donald Roberts via Talk wrote: I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/r.jarvis53%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com . ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Checking in
I use n v d a and window-eyes. Once in a while there is a button buy now or place order, can't recall which that window-eyes doesn't see. So I load nvda. The reverse is true on some pages, so I jjump bac k and forth between the two. i tried apple here, and just couldn't get the hang of all the different key commands, so stick with micro dollar. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Mon, 27 Dec 2021, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Orlando, If you are asking whether I use the Amazon website on windows in a browser, no, I do not. I tend to use Apple devices for as much as I can these days. So, I tend to use the Amazon app on an iPod or iPhone or iPad. Apple devices tend to be very accessible and so this is always preferable to using windows. The long and short of it is that windows is my last resort. I also have a Mac book, and so I even try to do things with Safari on the Mac before I turn to windows. I do have Jaws, which is excellent for Webb work these days, and I use Google Chrome as my default browser. I recommend trying the Amazon site with this combination, assuming you have Jaws. Anyway, I hope this helps a bit. Take care, and stay well. Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/sdimjr> for iOS on my iPad From: Talk on behalf of Orlando Fiol via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 2:27:42 PM Cc: Orlando Fiol Subject: Checking in Hello, Hope you're good Do you order on amazon site? Thanks,Orlando ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Checking in
Hi Orlando, If you are asking whether I use the Amazon website on windows in a browser, no, I do not. I tend to use Apple devices for as much as I can these days. So, I tend to use the Amazon app on an iPod or iPhone or iPad. Apple devices tend to be very accessible and so this is always preferable to using windows. The long and short of it is that windows is my last resort. I also have a Mac book, and so I even try to do things with Safari on the Mac before I turn to windows. I do have Jaws, which is excellent for Webb work these days, and I use Google Chrome as my default browser. I recommend trying the Amazon site with this combination, assuming you have Jaws. Anyway, I hope this helps a bit. Take care, and stay well. Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/sdimjr> for iOS on my iPad From: Talk on behalf of Orlando Fiol via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2021 2:27:42 PM Cc: Orlando Fiol Subject: Checking in Hello, Hope you're good Do you order on amazon site? Thanks,Orlando ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Checking in
Hello, Hope you're good Do you order on amazon site? Thanks,Orlando ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Thunderbird
Hi, Not sure whether there are many WE users still on this list but just in case, I have a question. I am running WE 9.5.4. on Windows 10. I use Thunderbird as my email client. All was going well until around the 27th of Nov. then, It appears as though there was an update.. After that, I was no longer receiving email messages on both my gmail and outlook acounts. I have become a bit rusty on win 10 and as I looked around to try and figure what was going on, I couldn't get the messages. So, since I had a pretty good idea of when trouble began, I decided to roll back my system. I discovered a checkpoint on Nov. 26 and after the roll back, all was well and messages poured in. Does anyone have an idea about what might be causing the issue and maybe how to fix it? thanks for any help. Bernie ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
After crash
Thanks for pointing me to the cursor dialog box and the key label dictionary they solve several of the problems . once I figured out which bits needed to be altered. However when I go word by word through a document in MS Word while using window Eyes 7.2 I still get where it’s doing see spot run run rather than see spot run period. At the end of the line the word next to a punctuation mark Or any of the other punctuation marks is still replying as if it is the word it’s right next to it’s like the program is taking the word next to a quotation punctuation mark and a punctuation mark as one item and then when it gets to the punctuation mark it reads the other one again I can’t figure out where to adjust it ? and this is in the word by word feature not in the reader or any of the other modes any ideas . Thanks for your time . Thanks for your time. Oh now Richard ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: copying to clipboard
73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. Thanks. On Tue, 9 Nov 2021, Rod Hutton wrote: Hi Butch, You?re not dreaming. Smile. As memory serves, you can windowize the window, meaning that you can change the window from its maximized state into a windowed state. This is done using alt spacebar. Once you do that, you have activated the control menu and the down Arrow Will navigate to the option called edit. This enables editing options such as selecting text within a window, whereby you can then copy the screen contents to the clipboard. I hope this helps, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:10 AM To: Tom Kingston via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: copying to clipboard I sometimes still run teraterm, and I was think there use to be a way to highlight stuff on the screen with window-eyes and copy to the clipboard, but I don't remember how. Am I dreaming? I get an error when trying to ssh into a particular address and want to copy the error. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: copying to clipboard
Hi Butch, You’re not dreaming. Smile. As memory serves, you can windowize the window, meaning that you can change the window from its maximized state into a windowed state. This is done using alt spacebar. Once you do that, you have activated the control menu and the down Arrow Will navigate to the option called edit. This enables editing options such as selecting text within a window, whereby you can then copy the screen contents to the clipboard. I hope this helps, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS From: Talk on behalf of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:10 AM To: Tom Kingston via Talk Cc: Butch Bussen Subject: copying to clipboard I sometimes still run teraterm, and I was think there use to be a way to highlight stuff on the screen with window-eyes and copy to the clipboard, but I don't remember how. Am I dreaming? I get an error when trying to ssh into a particular address and want to copy the error. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
copying to clipboard
I sometimes still run teraterm, and I was think there use to be a way to highlight stuff on the screen with window-eyes and copy to the clipboard, but I don't remember how. Am I dreaming? I get an error when trying to ssh into a particular address and want to copy the error. Thanks. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: After crash
The other problem is when I push control shift page app to read the sentence prior it switches to that sentence but does not read it I can’t get it to change sentence and read the sentence at the same time this would let me stairstep through the document I was working on I had it working that way before but can’t find out how to do it now and either shifts the sentence or reads the sentence depending on which command I give it Richard > On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:30 AM, chiph...@cox.net wrote: > > I’m doing these one at a time the next part I’m having problems with is > getting it to jump up to the start of a paragraph and then reading the whole > paragraph at the same time before the crash I could jump up after the > paragraph before or the paragraph after and get it to read the paragraph the > best I can do now is where it jumps up one paragraph reads it but it doesn’t > move the cursor I’m on so rather than jumping up three paragraphs quickly I’m > stuck on just the one before me > > Richard > > > >> On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:28 AM, chiph...@cox.net wrote: >> >> OK first of all the problem is if I typed see spot run. I use the word to >> word feature and I get C spot run run when it talks >> >> Richard >> >> >> >>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk >>>> wrote: >>> >>> as far as i understand some of your questions, all of them can be change in >>> the cursoring rea. >>> to change ctrl - left and right arrow is to change from word to word >>> enhance for what you want to do. >>> >>> As for the second question, you should change your keylabel dictionary to >>> read what you want to do >>> >>> The third question, I think, is something to do with the cursoring i think. >>> i am not sure as well as i don't know what you want to do or i don't know >>> of that function. but, it should be in the cursoring area. >>> >>> >>> As for the word question, I am not certain I understand, so I might not be >>> able to answer that >>> >>> as for the help, i just did at my end on my 9.54, it works fine. >>> something might be missing for the manual for your case. >>> Regards, >>> Thomas N. Chan >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Chiphead via Talk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i >>>> am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone >>>> remember how to get or reset the following commands? >>>> >>>> When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather >>>> than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? >>>> >>>> Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line >>>> when i press the home button? >>>> >>>> How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to >>>> the paragraph above or below current cursor? >>>> >>>> Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up >>>> or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep >>>> reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking >>>> for would slowly step me through the document. >>>> >>>> This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through >>>> a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. >>>> >>>> I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. >>>> >>>> One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all >>>> help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it >>>> goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> ___ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com >>>> . >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes
Re: After crash
When I hit the home key and jump to the beginning of the line it doesn’t state beginning of line or anything else so I have to fiddle around to find out if I am at the beginning of a sentence with the tab or anything else at the beginning of the line I have to guess where I wind up with Richard > On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:30 AM, chiph...@cox.net wrote: > > I’m doing these one at a time the next part I’m having problems with is > getting it to jump up to the start of a paragraph and then reading the whole > paragraph at the same time before the crash I could jump up after the > paragraph before or the paragraph after and get it to read the paragraph the > best I can do now is where it jumps up one paragraph reads it but it doesn’t > move the cursor I’m on so rather than jumping up three paragraphs quickly I’m > stuck on just the one before me > > Richard > > > >> On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:28 AM, chiph...@cox.net wrote: >> >> OK first of all the problem is if I typed see spot run. I use the word to >> word feature and I get C spot run run when it talks >> >> Richard >> >> >> >>>> On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk >>>> wrote: >>> >>> as far as i understand some of your questions, all of them can be change in >>> the cursoring rea. >>> to change ctrl - left and right arrow is to change from word to word >>> enhance for what you want to do. >>> >>> As for the second question, you should change your keylabel dictionary to >>> read what you want to do >>> >>> The third question, I think, is something to do with the cursoring i think. >>> i am not sure as well as i don't know what you want to do or i don't know >>> of that function. but, it should be in the cursoring area. >>> >>> >>> As for the word question, I am not certain I understand, so I might not be >>> able to answer that >>> >>> as for the help, i just did at my end on my 9.54, it works fine. >>> something might be missing for the manual for your case. >>> Regards, >>> Thomas N. Chan >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Chiphead via Talk >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i >>>> am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone >>>> remember how to get or reset the following commands? >>>> >>>> When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather >>>> than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? >>>> >>>> Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line >>>> when i press the home button? >>>> >>>> How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to >>>> the paragraph above or below current cursor? >>>> >>>> Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up >>>> or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep >>>> reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking >>>> for would slowly step me through the document. >>>> >>>> This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through >>>> a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. >>>> >>>> I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. >>>> >>>> One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all >>>> help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it >>>> goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> ___ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com >>>> . >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented
Re: After crash
I’m doing these one at a time the next part I’m having problems with is getting it to jump up to the start of a paragraph and then reading the whole paragraph at the same time before the crash I could jump up after the paragraph before or the paragraph after and get it to read the paragraph the best I can do now is where it jumps up one paragraph reads it but it doesn’t move the cursor I’m on so rather than jumping up three paragraphs quickly I’m stuck on just the one before me Richard > On Nov 5, 2021, at 2:28 AM, chiph...@cox.net wrote: > > OK first of all the problem is if I typed see spot run. I use the word to > word feature and I get C spot run run when it talks > > Richard > > > >> On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk >> wrote: >> >> as far as i understand some of your questions, all of them can be change in >> the cursoring rea. >> to change ctrl - left and right arrow is to change from word to word >> enhance for what you want to do. >> >> As for the second question, you should change your keylabel dictionary to >> read what you want to do >> >> The third question, I think, is something to do with the cursoring i think. >> i am not sure as well as i don't know what you want to do or i don't know >> of that function. but, it should be in the cursoring area. >> >> >> As for the word question, I am not certain I understand, so I might not be >> able to answer that >> >> as for the help, i just did at my end on my 9.54, it works fine. >> something might be missing for the manual for your case. >> Regards, >> Thomas N. Chan >> >> >>> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Chiphead via Talk >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i >>> am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone >>> remember how to get or reset the following commands? >>> >>> When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather >>> than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? >>> >>> Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line >>> when i press the home button? >>> >>> How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to >>> the paragraph above or below current cursor? >>> >>> Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up >>> or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep >>> reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking >>> for would slowly step me through the document. >>> >>> This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through >>> a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. >>> >>> I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. >>> >>> One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all >>> help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it >>> goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com >>> . >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chiphead%40cox.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: After crash
OK first of all the problem is if I typed see spot run. I use the word to word feature and I get C spot run run when it talks Richard > On Nov 3, 2021, at 3:41 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk > wrote: > > as far as i understand some of your questions, all of them can be change in > the cursoring rea. > to change ctrl - left and right arrow is to change from word to word > enhance for what you want to do. > > As for the second question, you should change your keylabel dictionary to > read what you want to do > > The third question, I think, is something to do with the cursoring i think. > i am not sure as well as i don't know what you want to do or i don't know > of that function. but, it should be in the cursoring area. > > > As for the word question, I am not certain I understand, so I might not be > able to answer that > > as for the help, i just did at my end on my 9.54, it works fine. > something might be missing for the manual for your case. > Regards, > Thomas N. Chan > > >> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Chiphead via Talk >> wrote: >> >> I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i >> am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone >> remember how to get or reset the following commands? >> >> When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather >> than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? >> >> Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line >> when i press the home button? >> >> How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to >> the paragraph above or below current cursor? >> >> Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up >> or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep >> reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking >> for would slowly step me through the document. >> >> This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through >> a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. >> >> I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. >> >> One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all >> help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it >> goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com >> . >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chiphead%40cox.net. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Sending A Message in Outlook
maximize the message windows and hit alt - s or ctrl - enter Regards, Thomas N. Chan On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 06:49, Debra Hill via Talk wrote: > Hi, > > > > I have Windows 10 and WE 9.54. I have had no real issues until suddenly I > am unable to send out a new message in Outlook. Previously, I would back > tab until I found the Send button; however, I can not back tab and have > found no other way to send the message. If I try to back tab, the message > closes and goes away. > > > > Have others had this problem? > > > > Thanks for any help as I am needing to send reports to others. > > > > Be blessed! > > > > Deborah > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com > . > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Sending A Message in Outlook
Hi, I have Windows 10 and WE 9.54. I have had no real issues until suddenly I am unable to send out a new message in Outlook. Previously, I would back tab until I found the Send button; however, I can not back tab and have found no other way to send the message. If I try to back tab, the message closes and goes away. Have others had this problem? Thanks for any help as I am needing to send reports to others. Be blessed! Deborah ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: After crash
as far as i understand some of your questions, all of them can be change in the cursoring rea. to change ctrl - left and right arrow is to change from word to word enhance for what you want to do. As for the second question, you should change your keylabel dictionary to read what you want to do The third question, I think, is something to do with the cursoring i think. i am not sure as well as i don't know what you want to do or i don't know of that function. but, it should be in the cursoring area. As for the word question, I am not certain I understand, so I might not be able to answer that as for the help, i just did at my end on my 9.54, it works fine. something might be missing for the manual for your case. Regards, Thomas N. Chan On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 at 15:59, Chiphead via Talk wrote: > I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i > am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone > remember how to get or reset the following commands? > > When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather > than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? > > Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line > when i press the home button? > > How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to > the paragraph above or below current cursor? > > Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up > or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep > reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking > for would slowly step me through the document. > > This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through > a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. > > I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. > > One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all > help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it > goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? > > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com > . > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
After crash
I have just had to reinstall my window eyes 7.2 on a vista machine and i am having problems getting ms word commands to work properly. Does anyone remember how to get or reset the following commands? When reading word by word getting it to read the punctuation mark rather than window eyes repeating which ever word the punctuation mark is next to? Next is getting window eyes to state what is at the beginning of a line when i press the home button? How do i get window eyes and or ms word to jump up to , or drop down to the paragraph above or below current cursor? Before the crash i was able to hit a preset command which would jump me up or down. However I don’t mean read previous because that will just keep reading the same one up or down paragraph. Where the command I’m looking for would slowly step me through the document. This brings me to the question I know the command to stair step me through a ms word document but it won’t auto speak at the moment. I know all of these are possible because i was doing them before the crash. One last problem, even though i told my installation disk to install all help files , every time i try to use the help section of window eyes it goes to loading and does nothing else. Any ideas ? Sent from my iPad ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2
Hi Don, Nice to hear from you again. Smile. As far as the list of Window-Eyes apps to disable, it is interesting to note that, actually, on one of my computers, I did not need to disable any apps, whereas, on another, I did. Also, I don’t think the fact that certain apps are running is the cause of your Thunderbird issue. The simple fact is that I was not even able to get Window-Eyes to launch without throwing multiple errors unless the apps I mentioned were disabled. The process of disabling apps couldn’t even be done at all unless I launched Window-Eyes without any apps starting up, and this is done by holding down the Shift key while launching it. I tend to think that the problem you are having is that which Bernie on the list mentioned when responding to Carol‘s post, namely, the Thunderbird set file is not loading and therefore the screen information presented by Thunderbird is not accessible. Bernie’s suggestion of the steps to get the Thunderbird set file to load should work, but, if it doesn’t, then the set file which you would need to load manually is TBEnhanced, as memory serves. Once you load that set file, you would need to press Control-S in order to save the association of this set file with the application window in question; this association would be to the main Thunderbird application window. At any rate, here is the list I had mentioned some time ago: Window eyes apps to disable Eloquence Fix Hotspot JAWS quick key WEDiag Windows Enhanced Good luck, and I hope this helps, Rod Sent from Outlook<https://aka.ms/sdimjr> for iPad OS From: Talk on behalf of Donald Roberts via Talk Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 3:08 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Cc: Donald Roberts Subject: Window-eyes 9.5.4 and Thunderbird 91.2 I am running a recent version of Windows 10 on my Dell desktop. Although I currently use Thunderbird 91.2, this problem began several months ago. Whenever possible, I prefer to use Window-eyes 9.5.4 as my screen reader of choice. When something doesn't work, I switch to Jaws 2021 to see whether things work better. When it comes to email, I can no longer use Window-eyes and must use Jaws. If I try to use W E with Thunderbird, I can no longer read the body of any message. I can read the to, from, and subject fields but not the message body. Although I don't recall the specifics, several months ago, Rud Hutton indicated that there were some Window-eyes apps which nowneeded to be disabled in recent versions of Windows 10. I wonder whether this could be the problem when attempting to read email using Thunderbird. If anyone remembers what I am talking about, I would appreciate knowing which W E apps need to be disabled. I realize this is a long shot, but I would certainly prefer to read email using W E. Thanks in advance for feedback. Don Roberts ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
tThank you
I would like to say thank you to all that gave me ideas for my email problem. I got up this morning and so far, WE seems to be working properly. I didn't do anything at all, just left the pc on for a day and today, it is working. I will keep the messages in the event I need to work through the problem again. Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: email not reading
Hi Carol, I am not sure what to say about your comment regarding a possible problem with your video. However, realizing that WE is no longer a viable product,I'll offer a possible suggestion. I am currently running WE 95.4 on a win 10 system and use TB all the time. Not sure what version of TB I have. On occasions, I had something similar to what you are describing. What I found was that when TB started, WE failed to load the TB setfile. So, if your system is still running and you can get into TB, press control backslash to get to the we control panel and if WE doesn't announce the setfile, press shift-T and it should say which setfile is loaded. At that point if it is not the TB setfile, simply press escape to go back to TB and then the TB sefile will become active. Hope this helps. Bernie On 10/23/2021 9:53 PM, Carol Smith via Talk wrote: Hi Thomas, My email is thunderbird. It has always worked on my win10 computer until the other day. As I stated, sometimes, I can use the ctrl-shift-w command and the portion of the screen that is visible will, but I can not read any further. Also, If I find a link, I can click on it, but there is no speech saying what the link is for. I have a feeling that the problem has something to do with the video output as I heard the pc say something about making changes to the video and it shut down. I have not been prompted with any other otice. Carol On 10/22/2021 7:14 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk wrote: Was it an email client or a web browser? Regards, Thomas N. Chan On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 08:22, Carol Smith via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: Hi, Recently, Microsoft thought I needed an update to my system so it performed the update while I was asleep. Mostly, things are running correctly, but I am now having difficulty reading my email messages. The title, who it was sent from and anything outside the editing area no longer read. Sometimes, I have been able to read with the ctrl-shift-w command, but if the message is more than one aswreen, I can't get the rest to read. Does anyone have any ideas? I would surely accept any ideas. Thank you, Carol ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com . For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bernie.perella%40outlook.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: email not reading
Well, it's all about the browse mode not kicking in or something broken for it to run properly. to be honest, i have this similar issue with my thunderbird on my old laptop running windows 7, it just freezes my computer when browse mode tries to load in thunderbird. I can't ask GW Micro to fix it when they are no longer around. What I do nowadays on my old laptop is to read email online when it's working fine in brave or chrome. I wish I can provide you a solutions for your problem. The only thing i can suggest is to turn off all the apps in window-eyes and see if that works or not. Regards, Thomas N. Chan On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 09:53, Carol Smith via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > My email is thunderbird. It has always worked on my win10 computer > until the other day. As I stated, sometimes, I can use the ctrl-shift-w > command and the portion of the screen that is visible will, but I can > not read any further. Also, If I find a link, I can click on it, but > there is no speech saying what the link is for. I have a feeling that > the problem has something to do with the video output as I heard the pc > say something about making changes to the video and it shut down. I > have not been prompted with any other otice. > > Carol > > > On 10/22/2021 7:14 PM, Thomas Chan via Talk wrote: > > Was it an email client or a web browser? > > > > Regards, > > Thomas N. Chan > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Oct 2021 at 08:22, Carol Smith via Talk < > > talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> Recently, Microsoft thought I needed an update to my system so it > >> performed the update while I was asleep. Mostly, things are running > >> correctly, but I am now having difficulty reading my email messages. > >> The title, who it was sent from and anything outside the editing area no > >> longer read. Sometimes, I have been able to read with the ctrl-shift-w > >> command, but if the message is more than one aswreen, I can't get the > >> rest to read. Does anyone have any ideas? I would surely accept any > >> ideas. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Carol > >> > >> ___ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com > >> . > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> > > ___ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com > . > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/thomas.nchan%40gmail.com > . > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
