RE: Jaws and desktop
Hi Neville, Try pressing Windows-M twice. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Neville via Talk Sent: May 26, 2017 7:32 PM To: Jim via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Hi, My original question on this thread was how to close a programme and give focus to the desktop while using Jaws and have speech. Upon exiting a programme like Thunderbird with alt F4, where Window-Eyes gave focus to the Desktop with speech, Jaws does not. Well, on my system anyway. The only way I can give focus to the Desktop and have speech is to to press Windows d after exiting the programme. Pressing Windows m or Windows d does give focus to the Desktop with speech but the programme has only been minimized and not closed. By just using alt F4, can anyone exit a programme or drive, give focus to the Desktop with Jaws talking. Thanks Neville. On 27/05/2017 3:09 AM, Jim via Talk wrote: > Nk there GUYS! > > I just tried both the 'windows+d as well as the 'windows+m' and they > both minimized the current program. So I guess you both are correct! > Just thought I would let you know<SMILE!>. Catch Ya Later! de > . > > > On 26-May-17 12:21, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: >> I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That >> windows key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows >> key doesn't. Pam. >> >> -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk >> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM >> To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop >> >> the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not >> minimize things >> like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will >> minimize >> everything. >> >> -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk >> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM >> To: Neville via Talk >> Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop >> >> Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. >> >> On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. >>> >>> When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the >>> Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of >>> Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. >>> >>> Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change >>> some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Neville. >>> >>> ___ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. >>> >>> >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> http://www.avg.com >> ___ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author
Re: Jaws and desktop
Hi, My original question on this thread was how to close a programme and give focus to the desktop while using Jaws and have speech. Upon exiting a programme like Thunderbird with alt F4, where Window-Eyes gave focus to the Desktop with speech, Jaws does not. Well, on my system anyway. The only way I can give focus to the Desktop and have speech is to to press Windows d after exiting the programme. Pressing Windows m or Windows d does give focus to the Desktop with speech but the programme has only been minimized and not closed. By just using alt F4, can anyone exit a programme or drive, give focus to the Desktop with Jaws talking. Thanks Neville. On 27/05/2017 3:09 AM, Jim via Talk wrote: Nk there GUYS! I just tried both the 'windows+d as well as the 'windows+m' and they both minimized the current program. So I guess you both are correct! Just thought I would let you know<SMILE!>. Catch Ya Later! de . On 26-May-17 12:21, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That windows key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows key doesn't. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize everything. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM To: Neville via Talk Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nevx616%40optusnet.com.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription o
Re: Jaws and desktop
it depends on what is opened on the screen. have someone watch while you do it. try this with the w e control panel or a jaws settings screen opened while wlm is opened. windows m will minimize the wlm screen but the w e control screen or jaws settings screen will still be opened. if you use windows d everything will minimize. both ways will put the screen reader focus on the desktop but windows m will not minimize the w e control screen or jaws settings screen. -Original Message- From: Jim via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:09 AM To: Pamela Dominguez ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Nk there GUYS! I just tried both the 'windows+d as well as the 'windows+m' and they both minimized the current program. So I guess you both are correct! Just thought I would let you know<SMILE!>. Catch Ya Later! de . On 26-May-17 12:21, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That windows key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows key doesn't. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize everything. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM To: Neville via Talk Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be
Re: Jaws and desktop
Nk there GUYS! I just tried both the 'windows+d as well as the 'windows+m' and they both minimized the current program. So I guess you both are correct! Just thought I would let you know<SMILE!>. Catch Ya Later! de . On 26-May-17 12:21, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote: I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That windows key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows key doesn't. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize everything. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM To: Neville via Talk Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and desktop
I was taught that it was exactly the opposite of what you say. That windows key minimizes things when you go to the desktop, and windows key doesn't. Pam. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:24 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize everything. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM To: Neville via Talk Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and desktop
the correct key is windows d. not windows m. windows m will not minimize things like dialog boxes that may be opened in a program. windows d will minimize everything. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:37 AM To: Neville via Talk Subject: Re: Jaws and desktop Try using windows key M to get back to the desktop. On 5/26/2017 12:03 AM, Neville via Talk wrote: Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lmddh50%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and desktop
Net Bat, I am using W10 Home with all updates. Alt tab does nothing as regards bringing back the speech when returning to the Desktop. Maybe I have been spoiled by years of WE because it always automatically gave focus to the Desktop after leaving a programme. Neville. On 26/05/2017 3:37 PM, net bat wrote: which version of windows? for windows 7 you can use alt tab to switch from the jaws screen to the desktop or find the jaws option to run it from the system tray. another option in jaws settings is to turn on focus. this will tell you when jaws has lost focus in your programs. for me it says lost focus every time i close wlm and i have to alt tab to bring focus back to the desktop. or mouse click the desktop. -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:03 PM To: Window Eyes Subject: Jaws and desktop Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Jaws and desktop
which version of windows? for windows 7 you can use alt tab to switch from the jaws screen to the desktop or find the jaws option to run it from the system tray. another option in jaws settings is to turn on focus. this will tell you when jaws has lost focus in your programs. for me it says lost focus every time i close wlm and i have to alt tab to bring focus back to the desktop. or mouse click the desktop. -Original Message- From: Neville via Talk Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:03 PM To: Window Eyes Subject: Jaws and desktop Hi, Just authorized the latest copy of Jaws and very much a learner. When exiting a programme, say Thundrbird, or exiting a drive for the Desktop, ,after pressing alt F4 Jaws goes quiet. The pressing of Windows d once or twice is required to place focus back on the Desktop. Is this annoying behaviour normal for Jaws or do I need to change some setting somewhere? If so, which setting and where? Thanks Neville. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
