Re: [talk-ph] Post-Cubao Mapping Party Report

2009-12-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Interestingly, my assigned area included Quezon City's least populous barangay, Mangga http://osm.org/go/4zhSeYoU, with a 2007 census population of only 634 people (compare with the most populous, Commonwealth, which has more than 172 thousand people). Looking at the barangay on the map, I

Re: [talk-ph] Post-Cubao Mapping Party Report

2009-12-20 Thread maning sambale
Nice post seav! I am finished with my slice already. Not much POIs inside this part of Cubao, except along Aurora Blvd. The difference now with my POI edits is that,I am adding as much addressing info I can collect. Walking papers mapping is really excellent for detailed mapping. I got very

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread Nop
Hi! Am 20.12.2009 03:58, schrieb John Smith: Most of them might not have the technical skills or the inclination since someone else has already made something good enough Technical skills and inclination are not enough. You also need considerable server side muscle to create a dedicated map.

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/20 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de: from _every_ map. Weekly updates are now considered lame. And less than full world-wide coverage is lame, too. :-[ Dunno about others, but the server I'm running for us to play with for aussie aspects only has south east asia and oceania... Technically speaking

Re: [OSM-talk] Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com We should be moving to stabilise the tag set and deprecating variations from it. -1 Once upon a time, when someone tagged an area as wood=decidious*, it made sense that the editor/renderer accepted and ignored it. These days, we have enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!

2009-12-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/20 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com You also have to make assumptions here about non-native english speakers, an extension might be to provide a translated list that can be imported into editors that automatically translate the key/value pair back to english when uploading. this

Re: [OSM-talk] Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: this is already tried at the editor level (e.g. JOSM Presets), but also has some limits: - there is not an English word for all words in all other languages (an example we had some time ago on the German ML: Schloss and Burg which

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Perhaps that's southern Spain in the Sunny Florida sense, all of it being a tad southern. Now I'm getting more confused about your abilities in geography All of those locations are North North compared to where? ;-) Nick ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Technical skills and inclination are not enough. You also need considerable server side muscle to create a dedicated map. You don't *necessarily* need this if you're prepared to only update your map once a week (which, it should be said, is still much, much more frequently than the OS and

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread John F. Eldredge
All of Spain is further north than Tennessee, the US state where I live. Tennessee is on about the same latitude as Algeria. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
The standards for acceptance by the casual user have grown enourmously. A year ago, the main maps were re-rendered once a week and that was cool. Now they are updated daily/minutely and somehow people expect that from _every_ map. Weekly updates are now considered lame. And less than full

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
All of Spain is further north than Tennessee, the US state where I live. Tennessee is on about the same latitude as Algeria. That's another example of the anticlockwise axis tilt of perceptions of places versus where they actually are. I've noticed that several places in the world are tilted

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Would most casual users even notice though? I think it's important here to separate technically rational arguments like one update per week is enough from emotional/social/visceral factors like omg, I made a

Re: [OSM-talk] Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: this is already tried at the editor level (e.g. JOSM Presets), but also has some limits: - there is not an English word for all words in all other languages (an example we had some time ago on the German ML:

Re: [OSM-talk] Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
A couple more updates: - added links to OSMdoc so you can see the currently used values for each tag - I now show certain* OSMdoc tags that aren't supported by any tool - I fixed wiki tags that were effectively max_speed=* but are listed in the wiki as max_speed=Speed.

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I'm not saying it's easy to get the hardware to make this happen for multiple renderings, like CloudMade can do. But it's important, if we want to attract more users. I've been suggesting putting more emphasis on tiles in the past but without much

Re: [OSM-talk] MobileMapperOffice (For Magellan Triton 200)

2009-12-20 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 20:27, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com wrote: I still have osm shapes from CloudMade. I use MobileMapperOffice to make vettorial map for a Magellan Triton 200. Any users use MMO and can give suggestions to make good maps? I probably dont get the point, but why dont you use the

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread Richard Bullock
I think it's important here to separate technically rational arguments like one update per week is enough from emotional/social/visceral factors like omg, I made a change and it's already in the map! That instant feedback has been a huge factor in Wikipedia's success. If the original

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread 80n
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: All of Spain is further north than Tennessee, the US state where I live. Tennessee is on about the same latitude as Algeria. That's another example of the anticlockwise axis tilt of perceptions of places

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net: Oh, come on! Minutely rendering of Mapnik is an recent development. The original contributors to OSM *did* have to wait a while to see any changes. Sometimes more than a week. And you can't say OSM hasn't come on since then can you? It can't be that

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 80n 80n...@gmail.com: OK, so if we tilt Spain enough then Girona is in southern Spain.  Cool... So where does Nice in france fit in? They've just had snow and ice :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread Nick Whitelegg
OK, so if we tilt Spain enough then Girona is in southern Spain. Cool... I don't think anyone will sniff at the 30C average max for Girona in July though (source: Wikipedia) :-) Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] ClosedCycleMap (was: Re: Cross-renderer tag support, now with OSMdoc!)

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
Actually it would be more informative to only count new user accounts after they make say 5 or more edits, total number of accounts aren't that useful for anything beyond PR spiels, what is useful is people making edits. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 20 de Diciembre de 2009, Nick Whitelegg escribió: OK, so if we tilt Spain enough then Girona is in southern Spain. Cool... I don't think anyone will sniff at the 30C average max for Girona in July though (source: Wikipedia) :-) 30ºC is actually *cold* for a summer, guys. I

[OSM-talk] List of changes from API only gives target tile of moved node

2009-12-20 Thread Andre Hinrichs
Hi List! I've fixed a misplaced node in a way and was waiting for the rendered tiles to be updated. I was expecting that both tiles are beeing updated the one where the node was and the one where the node was moved to. But unfortunately, only the tile the node was moved to was updated. Moved

Re: [OSM-talk] List of changes from API only gives target tile of moved node

2009-12-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andre Hinrichs wrote: See list of changes for the here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changes?start=2009-12-18T17:12:00Zend=2009-12-18T17:13:00zoom=12 So currently both mapnik and t...@h have a ghost way: What you describe may be right, but the reasoning is not; the Mapnik map

Re: [OSM-talk] List of changes from API only gives target tile of moved node

2009-12-20 Thread Andre Hinrichs
Am Sonntag, den 20.12.2009, 19:12 +0100 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Andre Hinrichs wrote: See list of changes for the here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/changes?start=2009-12-18T17:12:00Zend=2009-12-18T17:13:00zoom=12 So currently both mapnik and t...@h have a ghost way:

Re: [OSM-talk] List of changes from API only gives target tile of moved node

2009-12-20 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Andre Hinrichs wrote: Then why does Mapnik show the same behaviour than t...@h? The osc file doesn't list the old position of the node. You could find out by querying your local database for the old position but this is deemed too much cost for too little gain. Does creating the

Re: [OSM-talk] List of changes from API only gives target tile of moved node

2009-12-20 Thread Matt Amos
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Andre Hinrichs wrote: Anyway, if not many services use it (except t...@h) it would not create a high load on the server, so why drop it? I think it is certainly an odd one out among the API calls; no other API call

[OSM-talk] Valuable Tracks found / French + Spanish translators needed.

2009-12-20 Thread Nomorebigfoot
Hi I found some very useful sources for tracks here: http://www.viagens4x4.com/gps.html and here: http://www.voyages4x4.com/. Both are not commercially used. I would love to see that each a native french and spanish speaker could gracefully ask the owner that they would contribute this

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 2010 Girona, Spain!!

2009-12-20 Thread Rory McCann
On 19/12/09 21:18, Liz wrote: On Sat, 19 Dec 2009, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: We'll all be basking in sunshine in southern Spain at the 4th Annual State of the Map on July 9-11, 2010. Would that be the bit of southern Spain that is in the north east corner of the country? ;) Perhaps

Re: [OSM-talk] Valuable Tracks found / French + Spanish^W Portuguese translators needed.

2009-12-20 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Domingo, 20 de Diciembre de 2009, Nomorebigfoot escribió: Hi I found some very useful sources for tracks here: http://www.viagens4x4.com/gps.html and here: http://www.voyages4x4.com/. There is no Spanish anywhere. The second one is French, but the first one is *Portuguese*, in fact. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Valuable Tracks found / French + Spanish^W Portuguese translators needed.

2009-12-20 Thread Steven Le Roux
2009/12/20 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es El Domingo, 20 de Diciembre de 2009, Nomorebigfoot escribió: Hi I found some very useful sources for tracks here: http://www.viagens4x4.com/gps.html and here: http://www.voyages4x4.com/. There is no Spanish anywhere. The second one

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Troxel wrote: I don't follow this. I think that in the US a cycleway would be called either a bike path or rail trail, depending on origin. You'd likely be wrong. Willamette Greenway is a very long, very popular bicycle arterial in Portland. The only thing it implies is non-motorized,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] kerst / nieuwjaarsborrel?

2009-12-20 Thread Henk Hoff
Dames en heren, Mag ik alsnog toch even een alternatief voorstel doen voor de zondag (10 januari). Dat geeft mij de mogelijkheid om er ook bij te zijn en mogelijk ook andere mensen die van verder moeten/willen komen. Gr, Henk Hoff Op 18 december 2009 17:31 schreef Martijn van Exel

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] kerst / nieuwjaarsborrel?

2009-12-20 Thread Henk Hoff
Als het interessant is wil ik jullie dan graag even bij praten over de licentie wijziging en andersoortige zaken (bijvoorbeeld een local chapter van OpenStreetMap). ... Maar ja, vrijdag de 8e gaat me niet lukken ... dus wanneer het de 10e wordt . Gr, Henk Op 20 december 2009 19:42

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] kerst / nieuwjaarsborrel?

2009-12-20 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 20-12-09 21:36, Henk Hoff schreef: Als het interessant is wil ik jullie dan graag even bij praten over de licentie wijziging en andersoortige zaken (bijvoorbeeld een local chapter van OpenStreetMap). ... Maar ja, vrijdag de 8e gaat me niet lukken ... dus wanneer het de 10e wordt .

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] kerst / nieuwjaarsborrel?

2009-12-20 Thread Martijn van Exel
Ik kan ook zondag. Maar laten we ff doodlen: wil iedereen die wil komen even kiezen voor vrijdag, zaterdag en zondag op http://doodle.com/r2qt86zege6zirb4 ? Dan verzekeren we ons van een maximale opkomst. En denk eraan: zondag hebben we Henk-bonus :) Martijn On Dec 20, 2009, at 9:52 PM,

Re: [talk-au] Stimulus funding locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
Actually after thinking about it some more, unless there is some issues about choices of tags to tag these govt locations there is no point not uploading the data. I've just uploaded all 321 Centrelink locations now. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] NT data

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
I've uploaded 989 POIs from this data set to OSM. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
328 police POIs have just been uploaded. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
I've just update a matilda location with information from their website (types of fuel sold etc). Any way, they list services on their station locations like hot food, groceries, dry cleaning etc: http://www.matildafuel.com.au/stationfeatures.asp This is on top of the amenity:*=* tags I used

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply sending them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is great, but nothing much is going to happen this way. Steve

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/20 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply sending them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is great, but nothing much is going to

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:42 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: I've just update a matilda location with information from their website (types of fuel sold etc). Any way, they list services on their station locations like hot food, groceries, dry cleaning etc:

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Feel free, but these locations are all tagged with fixme=not_reviewed and show up in things like keepright etc, and as I said before I even made a custom page for the bp locations to make it simpler again. IMHO it

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: IMHO it would still be useful to create a wiki page to make a record of these imports, and importantly, direct people to instructions for using keepright etc, direct people to the e.g. BP custom page, and direct people to instructions to get the Edit in

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:46 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Feel free, but these locations are all tagged with fixme=not_reviewed and show up in things like keepright etc, and as I said before I even made a custom page for the bp locations to make it simpler again. Not sure

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or how you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this list rather than creating onebut whatever. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/BP_service_stations

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather than atm=yes? Is there ever some atm that isn't an amenity? It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that any renderers/editors

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Steve Bennett wrote: Like I said before, I think making a wiki page and posting these observations there would be more helpful in the long run than simply sending them off into the ether that is this mailing list. The heads up is great, but nothing much is going to happen

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather than atm=yes? Is there ever some atm that isn't an amenity? It's for when there are several amenities sharing one node. Not that any renderers/editors

[talk-au] Wikifiddling

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
Can a wikifiddler sorry wiki editor sort out the two parallel lists at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Data_Imports and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Data.australia.gov.au_projects because it could be better done? ___

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or how you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this list rather than creating onebut whatever. Don't you know programmers have a dislike of writing

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Not sure if you have a pathological hatred towards making wiki pages, or how you end up thinking it's less work to send so many messages to this list rather than

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically, though, I'm wondering why use amenity:atm=yes rather than atm=yes? Is there ever some atm that isn't an amenity? It's for when there are several amenities

Re: [talk-au] Victorian police locations...

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: But all I was suggesting was you dump the same text that you were sending to the email to the wiki instead. That's not dislike of writing documentation, that's wikiphobia. Perhaps you should see how much I've updated the wiki before you start

[talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
Just looking at a photo and it has a Mobile Library Stop sign in it Are these common and I haven't been looking? any ideas for a tag amenity=library_stop ?? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.auwrote: According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node (ie. bank, servo or chemist). Well, that's a bit of a misrepresentation.

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Just looking at a photo and it has a Mobile Library Stop sign in it Are these common and I haven't been looking? any ideas for a tag amenity=library_stop ?? I have seen a couple of these around country Vic. I'd use whatever the

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Liz
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node (ie. bank, servo or chemist). for any reference you can find in the wiki, we can find a contradictory one

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread David Murn
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 12:04 +1100, Liz wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:49 +1100, Liz wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:11 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.auwrote: Actually, I just did read it, and put the pages side-by-side. The only difference I noticed, is at the top.. Tag:atm=yes (Redirected from Key:atm) Ok, quick lesson on MediaWiki for you all. Some pages in the wiki

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:05 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.auwrote: Well, I never add any map data that I havent verified for myself, so my interpretation is probably different to those who mass-import data. Ive been to almost every servo in my local area, and have been marking

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node (ie. bank, servo or chemist). Assuming you have accurate information for the location, in the case of

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, David Murn wrote: According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:atm you should add an individual node for an ATM, rather than tag it onto an existing node (ie. bank, servo or chemist). for any reference you can find in the wiki, we

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Answer: David, you continue to create new nodes for atms, John, stack all the atm information etc on the same node, until someone surveys it. Wasn't planning to do any different, it's hard enough to pin point the location of a lot/most BPs from

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Wasn't planning to do any different, it's hard enough to pin point the location of a lot/most BPs from aerial imagery where it exists, next to impossible in areas with no aerial imagery, although as I said before,

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: I think using a bus route type could get muddled with public transport and we will have german tourists trying to catch the library truck to get around. Still a better solution than alternatives. You could tag it

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/12/21 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net: I think using a bus route type could get muddled with public transport and we will have german tourists trying to catch the library truck to get around. Yeah, they're not really really related to bus-stops. All the mobile libraries I've seen tend

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes this was Roy's point amenity:atm=yes is not consistent with the page I just mentioned I

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, the closest thing I can think of is the mobile blood-bank collection vans. They operate in a similar fashion - any tags for marking them to use as an example? Other things in the same category might include

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Roy Wallace wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:atm=yes this was Roy's point amenity:atm=yes is not

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: And on a slightly different issue, what source=* values are you planning on? For example, will source:atm=* be set also? It would be bad for someone to remove the fixme=not_reviewed without reviewing ALL details imported, including, for example,

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I would still suggest atm=yes. The amenity: is redundant. And the other amenity:*=* tags? node id='585129906' timestamp='2009-12-10T11:54:04Z' uid='74617' user='JohnSmith' visible='true' version='1' changeset='3340910' lat='-21.120399'

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com: may have a long wait.  I suspect some sort of time tagging would be appropriate  (eg Tuesdays, 10:00-12:30) opening_hours=Tu 10:00-12:30 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: information=guidepost? mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: You are assuming the only use is for rendering, have you seen osmfuel.org? http://www.osmfuel.org/enter Uh: You have asked Firefox to connect securely to mail.suckfuell.net, but we can't confirm that your

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: information=guidepost? mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ? That's extremely specific. The chance of any renderer ever supporting that is very low. Better to go for a

Re: [talk-au] Tagging fuel locations

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Not sure what's going on there. When I click on the osmfuel.org it does that. They probably don't have virtual hostnames configured properly, you need www in front. Oh, as opposed to amenity=atm? I thought we were talking about amenity:atm=yes v

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread John Smith
2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/21 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: information=guidepost? mobile_library_stop=Tu 10:00-12:30 ? That's extremely specific. The chance of any renderer ever

Re: [talk-au] Common or not??

2009-12-20 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Compared to atm=yes rendering? :) It's not a bus stop and I wouldn't tag it as such as they could be incorrectly rendered. In fact some mobile libraries aren't buses, the only ones I've ever seen in recent times

Re: [Talk-de] Neue Garmin-Version der Wanderkarte ver fügbar

2009-12-20 Thread hansdorfff
hi Nop, Am 15.12.2009 08:24, schrieb Andreas Pothe: Die Reit- und Wanderkarte für Deutschland, Österreich, Schweiz und Norditalien ist in einer neuen Version mit den Daten vom 8.12. verfügbar. Hm, war wohl schon etwas spät gestern. Die Karte findet man unter topo.geofabrik.de. Aber das

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrtzeiten in Staus

2009-12-20 Thread Marcus Wolschon
On 2009-12-19, Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) o...@dentro.info wrote: z.B. Code 106 stationary traffic for 10 km Code 113 stationary traffic for 10 km with average speed Q Es gibt aber auch z.B. den Code 101 stationary traffic und der wird nicht gerade selten verwendet, z.B. aktuell hier:

Re: [Talk-de] Neue Garmin-Version der Wanderkarte ver fügbar

2009-12-20 Thread Nop
Am 20.12.2009 09:14, schrieb hansdorfff: in der Webseitenversion kann ich nur bis Zoomlevel 15 heranzoomen. Ist das Absicht? Die Webversion geht nur bis Zoomlevel 15, da sie offline auf meinem Desktoprechner gerendert wird. Mehr ist ohne Renderserver nicht drin. Abhilfe ist in Arbeit. Und

[Talk-de] API 0.6 und Sub-Klasses

2009-12-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
HI ! ich wollte meine Weihnachtsbäume [1] mit http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[xmas:feature=tree][bbox=12.4,53.3,13,53.5] abfrage - bekomme allerdings bekomme ich keine NODES. Es gibt diese aber. Kann es sein das die API xmas:feature - wegen dem Doppelpunkt nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrtzeiten in Staus

2009-12-20 Thread Garry
Marcus Wolschon schrieb: Also, falls jemand die nächsten Tage mal im Stau steht und zufällig was zum Schreiben hat. Es wäre send freundlich mir mal per email Km-Stand und Uhrzeit am Anfang und am Ende sowie Anzahl der Spuren und ob das eine Autobahn, Trunk, Primary oder was auch immer war zu

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrtzeiten in Staus

2009-12-20 Thread Florian Gross
Am So Dezember 20 2009 glaubte Garry zu wissen: Gibt es eigentlich eine freie Software (bzw. eine die sich dazu verwendenläst)zum scanen von KFZ-Kennzeichen? Vielleicht lässt sich dann mal eine Stauscanning-Party machen: Verkehr am Anfang und Ende eines Strassenabchnitts Filmen und

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Tool für Symbian S60?

2009-12-20 Thread Toni Erdmann
Robert Heel schrieb: Hallo Bert, kann dein Symbian S60 Java? Ich verwende den Trailexplorer http://www.substanceofcode.com/software/mobile-trail-explorer/ läuft auf meinem N95 ganz gut. Auf dem läuft bei mir GpsMid http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/de/ Gruß, Toni

Re: [Talk-de] API 0.6 und Sub-Klasses

2009-12-20 Thread Andre Hinrichs
Am Sonntag, den 20.12.2009, 11:49 +0100 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: HI ! ich wollte meine Weihnachtsbäume [1] mit http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[xmas:feature=tree][bbox=12.4,53.3,13,53.5] abfrage - bekomme allerdings bekomme ich keine NODES. Es gibt diese aber. Kann

Re: [Talk-de] API 0.6 und Sub-Klasses

2009-12-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Andre Hinrichs schrieb: Am Sonntag, den 20.12.2009, 11:49 +0100 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: HI ! ich wollte meine Weihnachtsbäume [1] mit http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[xmas:feature=tree][bbox=12.4,53.3,13,53.5] abfrage - bekomme allerdings bekomme ich keine NODES. Es

Re: [Talk-de] User Treffen Ostfriesland

2009-12-20 Thread Tirkon
Tirkon tirko...@yahoo.de wrote: Am Montag, den 21._Dezember ... in der Kneipe Kattul, Georgswall 12 in Aurich. ... 20:00 Uhr ... WLAN ist vorhanden. Mehr dazu: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ostfriesland#Versuch_eines_ersten_Treffens Wenn alle kommen, die bisher zugesagt haben, sind wir zu

[Talk-de] Kreisverkehr in Routen

2009-12-20 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Wie trägt man das ein? Immer nur den verwendeten Teil des Kreisverkehrs, was natürlich eine starke Segmentierung verlangt? Oder den ganzen Kreisverkehr? - Es gibt ja jetzt im JOSM-Routen-Editor so ein nettes Symbol! -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen

[Talk-de] Mapnik: Straßen/POI Namen abgeschnit ten

2009-12-20 Thread Alexander Menk
Hallo, ich rendere via Mapnik. In einigen Faellen ist ein Straßenname bzw. die Namen von POIs wenn sie ueber mehrere Tiles gehen einfach abgeschnitten, sprich, auf dem Nachbartile geht der Name nicht weiter. Hat jemand ne Idee woher das kommen kann? (z.B. bei Tiles 17/79646/62241 und

[Talk-de] mehrere osm-maps auf einer webseite

2009-12-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! hat einer von Euch schon einmal mehrere eigenständige OSM-Maps, erzeugt mit OpenLayers, auf einer Site gesehen ?? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] mehrere osm-maps auf einer webseite

2009-12-20 Thread Sven Geggus
Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net wrote: hat einer von Euch schon einmal mehrere eigenständige OSM-Maps, erzeugt mit OpenLayers, auf einer Site gesehen ?? Ähm ja natürlich! Jedes Blog mit dem OSM Plugin zum Beispiel: http://www.christeck.de/wp/category/openstreetmap/ Aber auch das hier:

Re: [Talk-de] Leih-GPS Material gesucht

2009-12-20 Thread Jonas Stein
On 2009-12-18, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote: Hat jemand schonmal ein Tutorial zur Bedienung geschrieben/gefilmt? Hat jemand ein Formular zur Ausgabe erstellt? Weder noch. Was ich aber sagen kann ist, dass die Leih-GPS mit einer Anleitung kommen. Allerdings ist die auch nur

Re: [Talk-de] Kreisverkehr in Routen

2009-12-20 Thread Matthias Versen
Hallo Wolfgang Immer nur den verwendeten Teil des Kreisverkehrs, was natürlich eine starke Segmentierung verlangt? Oder den ganzen Kreisverkehr? - Es gibt ja jetzt im JOSM-Routen-Editor so ein nettes Symbol! Ich würde den kompletten Kreisverkehr benutzen. Lass Dich nicht von dem kaputten

[Talk-de] Wie sag ich's dem Nutzer

2009-12-20 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, hier http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE_talk:OpenStreetMap_License ist Eure Meinung gefragt. Gruß nk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Altenwohn- und Pflegeheim

2009-12-20 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! sie werden in unserer Gesellschaft immer wichtiger die Altenwohn- und Pflegeheim und ich habe eine Liste zum Abgleich in Aussicht. Aber wie in OSM taggen ?? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

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