Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fixing administrative borders

2011-06-13 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Dear all, I like this discussion that so far I have only read as it shows clearly that citizens speaking both Flemish and French, living everywhere in Begium, can really cooperate and discuss in a constructive way to work the difficult task to map the reality that has been legally decided. We

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fixing administrative borders

2011-06-13 Thread Benoit Leseul
Hi, On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:16, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: ... My main concern is to somehow discern the border of the German language area (after all, it's the only border not at level 4). I don't know if it's realistic, but maybe the German language area could be the only

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fixing administrative borders

2011-06-13 Thread Gerard Vanderveken
Benoit Leseul wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:16, Ben Laenen benlae...@gmail.com wrote: ... My main concern is to somehow discern the border of the German language area (after all, it's the only border not at level 4). I don't know if it's realistic, but maybe the German

[Talk-si] Osebni gps sledilec

2011-06-13 Thread Stefan Baebler
Pozdravljeni! Tokrat se na vas obračam v imenu prijateljice, katere oče ima že dokaj hudo demenco. Zato se jim večkrat dogaja, da zapusti dom in se izgubi, ter nato tava naokrog. V teh primerih bi se ga najhitreje našlo po koordinatah. Govorna komunikacija v pravem trenutku (klic takoj ko zapusti

Re: [Talk-si] Osebni gps sledilec

2011-06-13 Thread Igor Brejc
Zdravo, Sicer nimam nobenih izkušenj s temi napravami, vem pa, da Garmin ponuja nekaj izdelkov na to temo (sicer bolj za pse, vendar je en model tudi bolj splošen): https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=209 Splača se prebrat customer reviewe od te enote:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Import from Ushahidi Libya Instance

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Legal-talk, any opinions or insights on this question? == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew Errington
On Mon, June 13, 2011 14:45, Nick Hocking wrote: I just added some more new roads to the Canberra area. They were rendered in Bing maps within 10 seconds of uploading to OSM!!! Now that's instant gratification. Also bing maps are the slippiest around by a healthy margin. I can be zoomed in,

[OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi Grant http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/#5003/s=wp=c/5872/style=Mapniklat=-35.206078lon=149.103028z=17pid=50735 Tose are the newly added roads. Ive been using Bing's mapnik facility for a few months now - It's really good. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011-06-13 Thread Graham Jones
I was going to say something similar about the main OSM mapnik rendering. Last night the high zoom level had rendered by the time I had closed Potlatch2. Well done to those running our rendering servers! Graham from my phone On 13 Jun 2011 07:04, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Jochen Topf
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 04:07:33PM +1000, Nick Hocking wrote: http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/#5003/s=wp=c/5872/style=Mapniklat=-35.206078lon=149.103028z=17pid=50735 Tose are the newly added roads. Ive been using Bing's mapnik facility for a few months now - It's really good. That

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
Jochen, I see attribution on my browser (bottom left corner). Rendering is, I think standard mapnik, looks ok to me. Andrew E, did you try my link and zoom over to Korea. I think you'll find all the OSM data there looking quite good. Cheers Nick On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jochen Topf

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew Errington
On Mon, June 13, 2011 16:07, Nick Hocking wrote: Jochen, I see attribution on my browser (bottom left corner). Rendering is, I think standard mapnik, looks ok to me. Andrew E, did you try my link and zoom over to Korea. I think you'll find all the OSM data there looking quite good. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 June 2011 17:07, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Jochen, I see attribution on my browser (bottom left corner).  Rendering is, I think standard mapnik, looks ok to me. Andrew E, did you try my link and zoom over to Korea. I think you'll find all the OSM data there looking

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/#5003/s=wp=c/5872/style=Mapniklat=37.506163lon=127.050212z=14pid=50735 Works for me. But I'll go check out Yahoo and Google and see what the diffs are On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, June 13, 2011

Re: [OSM-talk] Mean high water level rendering

2011-06-13 Thread Ed Loach
Borbus wrote: I have recently been mapping tidal areas where data for both mean high water and low water levels are available. I have drawn the MHW level and tagged it as natural=water, natural=riverbank or natural=coastline. Then I have drawn natural=beach, natural=mud, natural=land,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Ed Loach
If I recall correctly, the Mapnik “Openstreetmap Mode” requires Silverlight, so the link below might show you a different view if you don’t have it installed. Or perhaps I’m thinking of the Map App, if that is different? Ed From: Nick Hocking [mailto:nick.hock...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 June

[OSM-talk] Mean high water level rendering

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi Ed, Given the renderening speeds we are seeing, I wonder if it would be possible to calculate and update OSM with actual estimated tide heights, say once every 5 minutes for coastlines of interest. Now just how flash (no to mention useful) would that be?

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 June 2011 18:01, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote: If I recall correctly, the Mapnik “Openstreetmap Mode” requires Silverlight, so the link below might show you a different view if you don’t have it installed. Or perhaps I’m thinking of the Map App, if that is different? I'd forgotten

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Andrew Errington
On Mon, June 13, 2011 17:01, Ed Loach wrote: If I recall correctly, the Mapnik #65533;Openstreetmap Mode#65533; requires Silverlight, so the link below might show you a different view if you don#65533;t have it installed. Or perhaps I#65533;m thinking of the Map App, if that is different?

[OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread Zolt Egete
Hello I have issues with importing large (planet) OSM files my postGIS database using the osm2pgsql tool. The smaller files like some of the continents I could easily import but with large files I have problems. The hardware configuration is the following RAM: 3GB HDD: 2TB CPU: Intel(R)

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011-06-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.06.2011 08:01, Grant Slater wrote: Do you mean Bing or MapQuest? I wasn't aware that Bing was using OSM data yet. Example link? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing#OpenStreetMap_via_the_Bing_Maps_APIs http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/#5003/s=w/5872/style=Mapnikpid=50735 needs

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/13 Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de: needs Silverlight that is really amazing... I don't have silverlight so I only get their dumb standard map... cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Jochen Topf
I looked at it again, and its not OSM data. It is NAVTEQ data. Its much better than when I last looked at NAVTEQ data so I was confused. :-) But on closer inspection I can see that the OSM data is still better and more current. FF 3.6.17 on Linux, no Silverlight. Jochen On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/13 Zolt Egete xphreaks...@gmail.com: Are there any alternatives to osm2pgsql maybe something that ? There are alternatives to osm2pgsql (e.g. imposm, osmosis) but they do not do the same thing so it depends what you want to do with your database (which scheme you want to have) which you

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread Zolt Egete
Hello Thank you for the quick reply I will give it a try without the -u option not to use the UTF-8 sanitize and will let you know the results as soon as I have some As far as other map files are concerned I have downloaded a few ones but this is the only one which I could unpack (have used

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/13 Zolt Egete xphreaks...@gmail.com: Hello Thank you for the quick reply I will give it a try without the -u option not to use the UTF-8 sanitize and will let you know the results as soon as I have some As far as other map files are concerned I have downloaded a few ones but this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread Zolt Egete
Thanks Will give it a try and will let you know about the results I have got thanks one more for the quick reply On 6/13/2011 12:07 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/6/13 Zolt Egetexphreaks...@gmail.com: Hello Thank you for the quick reply I will give it a try without the -u option not to

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.06.2011 11:44, Jochen Topf wrote: FF 3.6.17 on Linux, no Silverlight. This seams to be the reason. Bing should not silently fall back to other data but nag you to install Silverlight. I CC'ed Steve. @Steve: Consider a nag screen or even better provide the tiles using the plain JS API

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread Zolt Egete
Hello As I have promised I have tried to import the old file without the -u option so not to use utf sanitize and I still got a problem ./osm2pgsql -U postgres -v -s -S default.style -d gisa -C 2500 /home/zsolt/tmp/planet-100127.osm osm2pgsql SVN version 0.70.5 Using projection SRS 900913

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Borbus
On 13/06/11 11:29, Stephan Knauss wrote: This seams to be the reason. Bing should not silently fall back to other data but nag you to install Silverlight. I'd rather it didn't because I'm not going to install Silverlight (in fact I couldn't even if I wanted to). It would be a lot better if it

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 tutorial part 2 - tracing roads and areas

2011-06-13 Thread Graham Stewart (GrahamS)
Nice job David! Very clear and professional. I'd definitely support these videos being added to the wiki ASAP. One small point: it might be worth mentioning the 'B' shortcut in Potlatch 2, which will set the source=Bing tag without having to flip to the 'Misc' tab and type it in manually. --

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: I don't know why some people call it a vote at all.  It is a question whether or not *you* agree to a contract (the CT) and allow *your* contributions to be distributed under ODbL.  Your answer is not binding to

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 13.06.2011 13:30, Serge Wroclawski wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net wrote: A question for a real vote could be Do you think OSM should switch to ODbL? That vote took place three times. It was done first by the OSMF members, then the community

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
the official site should work: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ the latest is this: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-latest.osm.bz2 and the md5 is here: http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-latest.osm.bz2.md5 cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread TimSC
On 13/06/11 12:30, Serge Wroclawski wrote: That vote took place three times. It was done first by the OSMF members, then the community at large, and then separately by the community by a different community member who had concerned over the first poll. Check the archives, you'll find references

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: Next, about a year later, a vote amongst OSMF membership was taken.This isn't the board, but the entire membership. Since it was a decision that was to effect the direction of the OSMF, this makes sense to me.. This was before my time, but from what I understand

[OSM-talk] Poll on Governance, what constitutes news, wiki front page

2011-06-13 Thread TimSC
Hi all, cc Richard Fairhurst, I recently created a poll on doodle about how decisions are taken in OSM. I think this issue matters to many people. I put the poll in the news section on the front page of the wiki, so we can get a decent turn out and be able to draw some conclusions. Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Poll on Governance, what constitutes news, wiki front page

2011-06-13 Thread Dermot McNally
On 13 June 2011 14:41, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: So I ask any interested parties and Richard: please respond with a definition of what constitutes news and/or some reasoning that it is one person's hobbyhorse, otherwise I will revert you back. Also if you want to raise

Re: [OSM-talk] Poll on Governance, what constitutes news, wiki front page

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
TimSC wrote: This issue not just one person's hobby horse - its an issue that is very topical and very relevant. Think you're missing an IMHO in there... and that's rather the point. I can list plenty of things that I personally think are more topical and relevant. I'm sure others on this list

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.06.2011 12:40, Borbus wrote: On 13/06/11 11:29, Stephan Knauss wrote: This seams to be the reason. Bing should not silently fall back to other data but nag you to install Silverlight. I'd rather it didn't because I'm not going to install Silverlight (in fact I couldn't even if I wanted

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread SteveC
Thats a kind of odd set of statements given... the random polls you're showing around...? Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 13, 2011, at 13:53, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: On 13/06/11 12:30, Serge Wroclawski wrote: That vote took place three times. It was done first by the

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing

2011-06-13 Thread SomeoneElse
On 13/06/2011 16:34, Stephan Knauss wrote: As long as MS wants to promote Silverlight using the OSM layer they should at least not silently fall back to another map. So either serve OSM with plain JS or tell the user it won't. If you believe the news / rumour sites, they might not be

Re: [OSM-talk] transparent road layer

2011-06-13 Thread Chris Hill
On 13/06/11 18:19, Rob Truxler wrote: Hi Everyone Does anyone know a map tile web service that produces transparent tiles with just roads and their labels and icons on them? I'm hoping to use this layer with a background tileset that I already have. I'm open to using anything that is not in

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/13 Zolt Egete xphreaks...@gmail.com: C:\Users\z.egete\tmp\osm2pgsqlosm2pgsql -U postgres -S default.style -d gisa -H 10.1.1.63 D:\planet-100127.osm osm2pgsql SVN version 0.69-21289M I have tried with (-s, -u as well separately and have used -C 3000 at one time but no success) Any hint

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Henk Hoff
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: Next, about a year later, a vote amongst OSMF membership was taken.This isn't the board, but the entire membership. Since it was a decision that was to effect the direction of the OSMF,

Re: [OSM-talk] Mean high water level rendering

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ed, Given the renderening speeds we are seeing, I wonder if it would be possible to calculate and update OSM with actual estimated tide heights, say once every 5 minutes for coastlines of interest. Now just how

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-13 Thread Jon Burgess
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:04 +0200, Zolt Egete wrote: As far as other map files are concerned I have downloaded a few ones but this is the only one which I could unpack (have used pbzunzip2, bzip2, bunzip2) but all the time I have got corrupt archive messages. Also the MD5 sum of the downloaded

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 6/13/2011 5:54 PM, Henk Hoff wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Serge Wroclawski-2 wrote: Next, about a year later, a vote amongst OSMF membership was taken.This isn't the board, but the entire

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 tutorial part 2 - tracing roads and areas

2011-06-13 Thread Parveen Arora
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:03 AM, David Ellams osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: I have finally got around to completing part 2 of the Potlatch 2 video tutorial. This one is only just over three-and-a-half minutes, and covers tracing roads and areas from Bing aerial imagery. I have also

[OSM-talk] open bus map - the maintainers?

2011-06-13 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, does anyone know who maintains the open bus map? i discovered it earlier - fantastic work, something i'd looked for for a while, but wanted to make a suggestion about rendering the bus routes based on the colour stored in the relation details. any ideas, the website has no contact details

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Dermot McNally writes: Not at all - I know of no form of democracy that distinguishes between grudging acceptance or evangelical zeal. In particular, in direct democracy such as a referendum, small groups always design the question that will be put to the electorate, tuning it as required

Re: [OSM-talk] Kothic JS - a full-featured JavaScript map rendering engine using HTML5 Canvas

2011-06-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Komяpa writes: Glad to announce the first release of Kothic JS map rendering engine. And it's gorgeous, just gorgeous. The only thing wrong with it is that the whole user interface of Firefox is written in JS. So when Kothic is rendering a complex map, be prepared to wait for your browser to

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread Russ Nelson
Dermot McNally writes: On 11 June 2011 00:15, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're being deliberately obtuse Nathan was being gracious. You ARE trolling. Stop it. That's amusing coming from somebody who thinks he can inhibit the use of data he has declared as PD,

[OSM-talk] coastline broken ?

2011-06-13 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
I made a modification in my country coastline (France). I added a coastline for the Estuaire de la Gironde (estuary) that was previously build on river banks (but it was incorrect, it was not a river). So i split the riverbank and made it natural=coastline. But since (2 days) the rendering is bad

Re: [OSM-talk] open bus map - the maintainers?

2011-06-13 Thread Matthias Meisser
Am 14.06.2011 05:45, schrieb Robin Paulson: hi, does anyone know who maintains the open bus map? i discovered it earlier - fantastic work, something i'd looked for for a while, but wanted to make a suggestion about rendering the bus routes based on the colour stored in the relation details.

Re: [talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
That's a good question. I've just had a look at the ACTMAPI site that used to have house/block numbers, but they've dissappeared. I'l keep searching.. Nick On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Nick Hocking

Re: [talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

2011-06-13 Thread Nick Hocking
Ah-ha. I think there is a simple answer. Despite being a really long road/s I don't think anyone actually lives on it. There's always space between it and the houses, so I'm not sure there will ever be any 33 Horse Park Drive Cheers Nick PS - ACTMAPI site must be under change, even the road

Re: [talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

2011-06-13 Thread Franc Carter
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Ah-ha. I think there is a simple answer. Despite being a really long road/s I don't think anyone actually lives on it. There's always space between it and the houses, so I'm not sure there will ever be any 33 Horse Park

Re: [talk-au] nearmap LWG minutes

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I'm a bit late to the game but the one of the LWG minutes talks about nearmap... It isn't apparent from the link, but for the information of those reading them here without checking the original document, the

Re: [talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

2011-06-13 Thread John Berkers
Hi, We've got a few roads around here (Narre Warren South/Lynbrook) that are split and not yet joined. One such road is Glasscocks Road, which runs from Dandenong Frankston Road, through through Lynbrook and Narre Warren South to Clyde Road in Berwick. It is currently in three parts, and you

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500: Atualização de 12/06/2011

2011-06-13 Thread Guilherme Dagostin Donadel
Pessoal, Em SC, apenas 3 cidades estão sem rota ( no route ), e estão sem rota para todas as cidades polo, elas estão mapeados oq faço pra inclui-las na rota? obs: as cidades são Içara, Jaguaruna que ficam na regiao sul, regiao que mais desenvolvo (será q estraguei algo?) e a cidade de Frei

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500: Atualização de 12/06/2011

2011-06-13 Thread vitor
Oi Aun, Realmente, as imagens do interior do ES ainda nao estao com boa qualidade. Neste caso o mapeamento tem que ser feito em campo, com GPS. Nos outros estados ainda há muito a fazer, toda ajuda é bem vinda! Abs, Vitor 2011/6/12 Aun Yngve Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org Poder informa qui

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500: Atualização de 12/06/2011

2011-06-13 Thread vitor
Oi Guilherme, Para corrigir a rota, você deve clicar no link dela para ve-la no mapa da Cloudmade, e aí ir movendo os pontos de partida/chegada até identificar em qual ponto da rota nao é possível fazer conexao. No caso de Içara, vi que a cidade está bem mapeada, mas as ruas estao sem nenhuma

Re: [Talk-br] Imagens Aéreas do Estado de Minas Gerais

2011-06-13 Thread enqd
Olá Pessoal, Tem alguém que mora em Belo Horizonte aqui na lista? recebi um email do IEF que para receber as imagens aéreas de Minas Gerais, deve seguir o seguinte procedimento (resposta que me foi dada): Como não dispomos de mídias estamos solicitando que o demandante traga sua própria midia.

Re: [Talk-br] Imagens Aéreas do Estado de Minas Gerais

2011-06-13 Thread Samuel Vale
On Seg, 2011-06-13 at 18:33 -0300, enqd wrote: Olá Pessoal, Tem alguém que mora em Belo Horizonte aqui na lista? recebi um email do IEF que para receber as imagens aéreas de Minas Gerais, deve seguir o seguinte procedimento (resposta que me foi dada): Como não dispomos de

Re: [Talk-de] Wie verbessert man die qualitaet des routings in OSM? (war: Berliner Abbiegebeschränkungen)

2011-06-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos Am 10.06.2011 17:24 schrieb Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com: Hallo, Chris66 wrote: Am 03.06.2011 22:32, schrieb Chris66: Das Thema Routing ist leider noch immer ein Trauerspiel. Ja leider, das routing ist wirklich zum Teil noch etwas

Re: [Talk-de] Wie verbessert man die qualitaet des routings in OSM? (war: Berliner Abbiegebeschränkungen)

2011-06-13 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Sorry für posting ... war Fehlbedienung :-( ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread koppenho
Hallo, es war einmal (so fangen alle guten Märchen an) zwei Straßenlistenauswertung von Florian Lohoff und Sven Anders. Das waren gute und hilfreiche Services, die viele von uns vermissen, denn sie leben heute leider nicht mehr. Zuerst konnte Florian Anfang des Jahres sich wegen beruflicher

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Manuel Reimer
Henning Scholland wrote: Hallo Manuel, ich würde dafür Maperitive nehmen. Du lädst dir den Bereich über die XAPI herunter und lädst sie in das Programm. Den Mapnik-Stil ist dort der Default. Es gibt auch einen Stil, der die klassischen Stadtpläne nachahmt. Der dürfte sich im wiki finden lassen.

[Talk-de] You and your projects at OKCon

2011-06-13 Thread Daniel Dietrich
Dear all, As you will be aware OKCon 2011 is approaching fast: June, 30th July, 1st We are delighted to announce the release of the OKCon 2011 programme: http://okcon.org/2011/programme We are also thrilled about the fantastic line up of speakers:

[Talk-de] Karte zum heutigen Mühlentag (PR)

2011-06-13 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Ähnlich wie die OpenPlaygroundMap sollte zum heutigen Datum der Launch einer OpenMillingMap (oder so) für findige Kartenbastler ein Leichtes sein. Hintergrund:

[Talk-de] PR: June 16, Bloomsday: Pubs in Dublin

2011-06-13 Thread RalfGesellensetter
A good puzzle would be to cross Dublin without passing a pub. -James Joyes, Ulysses Am 16. Juni findet wieder der Bloom's Day statt: http://www.geographic.ie/opinion/bloomsday-2010-to-cross-dublin-without-passing-a-pub/ Eine gordische Lösung erfolgte Jahre später, indem einfach jeder Pub

Re: [Talk-de] PR: June 16, Bloomsday: Pubs in Dublin

2011-06-13 Thread Dermot McNally
2011/6/13 RalfGesellensetter r...@gmx.de: A good puzzle would be to cross Dublin without passing a pub. -James Joyes, Ulysses Viele Dublin Pubs fehler noch auf OSM, aber User rorym hat sich mit genau diesem Thema beschäftigt. Bislang ohne eine passende Strecke zu finden. Als Voraussetzung soll

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Montag 13 Juni 2011 11:21:50 schrieb Manuel Reimer: Henning Scholland wrote: Hallo Manuel, ich würde dafür Maperitive nehmen. Du lädst dir den Bereich über die XAPI herunter und lädst sie in das Programm. Den Mapnik-Stil ist dort der Default. Es gibt auch einen Stil, der die

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Henning Scholland
Hallo, ich nutze die xapi von mapquest, wenn ich sie mal brauchen sollte: http://open.mapquestapi.com/xapi/api/0.6/*[bbox=...] Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Kicker-Kneipe (pub features wie Billiard, Dart usw.)

2011-06-13 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Liebe Liste, unter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpub fehlen m.E. jegliche Hinweise auf das Taggen von Billard- oder Tischfußball-Einrichtungen in Kneipen. amenity=billard oder amenity=kicker/table_soccer oder sport=billiards oder leisure=darts? Ich konnte dazu

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 11-06-13 11:09, koppenho wrote: Ich habe schon überlegt, mich selbst in dieser Richtung zu engagieren und einem solchen Dienst eine neue Zukunft zu geben, die Geschichte fortzuführen. Aber ich schaffe das zeitlich nicht. Es müsste so aufgesetzt werden, dass es automatisch ablaufen kann.

[Talk-de] Erwassen von Erdwällen (Knicks)

2011-06-13 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! habe gestern gerade gesehen das mapnik [3] auch lineare Objekte mit dem Tag barrier=hedge [2] rendert. Nun bin ich aus dem Wiki nicht ganz schlau geworden. Wenn ich das Bild richtig interpretiere, dann sieht das aus wie eine gartentechnische Hecke als Abgrenzung eines Grundstücks.

Re: [Talk-de] Erwassen von Erdwällen (Knicks)

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 13. Juni 2011 19:09 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: In OSM sind die verwendeten hedges allerdings in der Regel mehr als Feldertrennung zu interpretieren - wir Norddeutschen sagen dann da mehr Knick [1] (bewachsener Erdwall) zu - würde ich auch gerne in die Karten (insbesondere

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Manuel Reimer
Wolfgang wrote: Arbeitet auch direkt mit OSM-Files, gute deutschsprachige Anleitung, recht einfach zu verstehen. Noch eine dumme Frage, bevor ich (mal wieder) umsonst Software kompiliere: Damit kann ich dann auch den Mapnik-Standard-Stil, wie man ihn von openstreetmap.org kennt, als Basis

Re: [Talk-de] Kicker-Kneipe (pub features wie Billiard, Dart usw.)

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 13. Juni 2011 18:26 schrieb RalfGesellensetter r...@gmx.de: Liebe Liste, unter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpub fehlen m.E. jegliche Hinweise auf das Taggen von Billard- oder Tischfußball-Einrichtungen in Kneipen. amenity=billard        oder

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Manuel Reimer wrote: Wie aber verfahre ich weiter. Postgresql will ich *nicht* verwenden. Ich möchte direkt aus einem exportierten OSM (Sehr kleine Fläche. Etwa zwei Quadratkilometer) rendern. Als Basis hätte ich aber gerne die Stylesheets, die auch auf openstreetmap.org genutzt werden.

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread Walter Nordmann
alles da, nächste Frage bitte ;) Gruss walter - Wenn du den Wald vor lauter Bäumen nicht siehst, fälle die Bäume und du wirst sehen, dass da kein Wald ist. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread fx99
Martin Trautmann wrote: Gibt es von den gut 11 000 deutschen Gemeinden insgesamt schon alle Gemeindegrenzen? Das ist ein grober Anhaltswert. Oder gibt es von den zigtausend Ortschaften passende Ortsgrenzen? Auch dies war eine der nützlichen Beiträge von Sven Anders: Die Prüfung von

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 13. Juni 2011 19:56 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: - Wie muss ich diese anpassen, dass damit aus einer OSM gerendert werden kann? Wie gesagt, das ist praktisch unmoeglich oder wuerde *sehr* viel Handarbeit bedeuten. Wesentlich mehr als die voruebergehende Installation einer

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 11-06-13 20:12, fx99 wrote: Oder gibt es von den zigtausend Ortschaften passende Ortsgrenzen? Auch dies war eine der nützlichen Beiträge von Sven Anders: Die Prüfung von Verwaltungseinheiten gegen die offizielle Nummer und die Konsistenz der Daten. In den südlichen BL sind die Gemeinden

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 11-06-13 20:07, Walter Nordmann wrote: alles da, nächste Frage bitte ;) sicha? Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] alternativen und Linienbegleitend

2011-06-13 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 13.06.2011 19:39, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Am 13. Juni 2011 19:09 schrieb Jan Tappenbecko...@tappenbeck.net: In OSM sind die verwendeten hedges allerdings in der Regel mehr als Feldertrennung zu interpretieren - wir Norddeutschen sagen dann da mehr Knick [1] (bewachsener Erdwall) zu -

Re: [Talk-de] Krankenhausgebäude und -fläche korrekt taggen

2011-06-13 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 09.04.2011 16:36, schrieb Benedikt Schwarz: Ich will ein Krankenhaus (=Gebäude) und das weitreichende Grundstück des Krankenhauses taggen. Soll man nun das Krankenhausgebäude oder die Krankenhausfläche mit amenity=hospital taggen? Jetzt hatte es diesen Irrsinn mit dem halben Dutzend

Re: [Talk-de] Krankenhausgebäude und -fläche korrekt taggen

2011-06-13 Thread Johann H. Addicks
p.s. Diesen Auszug gab's in Z15: http://osm.org/go/0MGgqLbd-- -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Gibt es eine Zukunft für eine Straßenlistenauswertung?

2011-06-13 Thread Igor Podolskiy
Hallo zusammen, On 13.06.2011 20:18, Martin Trautmann wrote: On 11-06-13 20:12, fx99 wrote: Oder gibt es von den zigtausend Ortschaften passende Ortsgrenzen? Auch dies war eine der nützlichen Beiträge von Sven Anders: Die Prüfung von Verwaltungseinheiten gegen die offizielle Nummer und die

[Talk-de] Radwanderkarte - like Wanderkarte

2011-06-13 Thread o...@tappenbeck.net
hi! es gibt ja so eine tolle Wanderkarte als Webseite (http://hiking.lonvia.de/de) - gibt es soetwas auch für Radwege bzw. ist in Planung. Wenn ich mich recht erinne hatte sich jemand in den Aufzeichnungen zur Fossgis 2011 dazu erkundigt als Sarah ihren Beitrag abgeschlossen hatte. Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] Karte zum heutigen Mühlentag (PR)

2011-06-13 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 13.06.2011 13:17, schrieb RalfGesellensetter: Ähnlich wie die OpenPlaygroundMap sollte zum heutigen Datum der Launch einer OpenMillingMap (oder so) für findige Kartenbastler ein Leichtes sein. Hintergrund:

Re: [Talk-de] Erwassen von Erdwällen (Knicks)

2011-06-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Montag 13 Juni 2011 19:09:01 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: * ist barriere = hedge auch als Knick zu interpretieren ?? Nein. Hedge ist Hecke, Hecke != Knick. Ein Knick ist eine Wallhecke und sieht völlig anders aus als eine herkömmliche Hecke im Garten oder Park. Ich meine, davon sind

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Montag 13 Juni 2011 19:38:34 schrieb Manuel Reimer: Wolfgang wrote: Arbeitet auch direkt mit OSM-Files, gute deutschsprachige Anleitung, recht einfach zu verstehen. Noch eine dumme Frage, bevor ich (mal wieder) umsonst Software kompiliere: Damit kann ich dann auch den

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Montag 13 Juni 2011 20:17:28 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Für Tipps wäre ich sehr dankbar. Nur so ein Schuss ins Blaue: Wenn du in einer vorhandenen Datenbank größere Mengen importieren/updaten willst und die Quelle zuverlässig genug ist, spart es viel Zeit, wenn man vorher

[Talk-de] Nominatim-Suche nach Windmühlen // Re: Karte zum heutigen Mühlentag (PR)

2011-06-13 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Hi Jan, danke für dein nettes Angebot. Ich dachte aber schon an etwas dynamisches. Die Spielplätze findet Nominatim (die OSM Suchmaschine) inzwischen problemlos - allerdings fehlt noch eine Anzeige aller Treffer auf einer Karte (ich kann immer nur einen anklicken, der dann dargestellt wird).

Re: [Talk-de] Krankenhausgebäude und -fläche korrekt taggen

2011-06-13 Thread Garry
Am 13.06.2011 21:16, schrieb Johann H. Addicks: p.s. Diesen Auszug gab's in Z15: http://osm.org/go/0MGgqLbd-- Ich sehe da nichts schlimmes daran - ein halbes Dutzend (jedes mit einer gewissen Eigenberechtigung) auf ein paar Hektar verteilt, kommt nur in grösseren Städten vielleicht

Re: [Talk-de] Resorts = landuse=residental ??

2011-06-13 Thread Garry
Am 09.06.2011 20:30, schrieb Wolfgang: Ich habe ja nicht behauptet, Hotels und Büros sind fast das gleiche ;-) Deine aufgezählten Unterschiede gelten gegenüber Wohnraum noch viel mehr: Anzahl der Bäder/Steigstränge, Geschosshöhen, Achsmaße, Nebenräume, Service- Angebote. Nicht alle Büros sind

Re: [Talk-de] Resorts = landuse=residental ??

2011-06-13 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Dienstag 14 Juni 2011 00:25:25 schrieb Garry: Beim Hotel steht das (zeitbegrenzte) Wohnen im Vordergrund, die Gerade das ist der große Unterschied: zeitbegrenzt. Sonst würde ja z.B. auch der Kündigungsschutz für Hotelzimmer gelten... Dienstleistungen der Angestellte hängen damit

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