[Talk-transit] link on wiki to new research report

2011-06-15 Thread Hillsman, Edward
Hi all, One of my colleagues and I have completed a report on developing multimodal trip planners. The report focuses on open-source software, and open data sources such as OpenStreetMap and public transportation data in GTFS format. The report is available at

Re: [talk-ph] Caviteño: Is Antero Soriano Highway a really major highway?

2011-06-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Here's another opinion from Wikipedia: The Antero Soriano Highway is a 2 to 4 lane, 21-kilometer highway transversing through the western coast of Cavite. It is one of the three major highways located in the province, the others are Aguinaldo Highway and the Governor's Drive.

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fixing administrative borders

2011-06-15 Thread Julien Fastré
I have too much work those days for keeping me up to date to osm-threads, but what I read here is interessant. *May I suggest to ask someone to make a proposition and organise a vote* : I think it worth trying to reach legitimacy and global agreement about our discussions here, and do not speak

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM stats

2011-06-15 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
Thanks eMerzh Stats are in 1 month : From 117 to 61 unmapped places ( No more for the next update???) From 390 to 291 sparsely mapped places great improvements. What if we created a Belgian project of the week to map, one after the other these unmapped places. I bet that very soon we would

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Workshop Trage Wegen

2011-06-15 Thread Kenny Knecht
Hi Wouter, Ik heb die trackers liggen: misschien kan je me best bellen voor een overdracht: 0486756616. Ik heb zelf mijn speelgoed dus veel liggen ze hier niet te doen. Kenny 2011/6/9 Wouter Hamelinck wouter.hameli...@gmail.com Hi all, As Kenny announced some time ago, Trage Wegen vzw

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM stats

2011-06-15 Thread eMerzh
Hi Nicolas, This tool ( i speak only for the result i gave) take every node tagged with place=* ie place=town, name=Etterbeek Then the tool count the amount of nodes (every type) around this place and if it's below a certain number it's flagged as sparsely or if there is a really low number of

Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM stats

2011-06-15 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux
thanks. I see better -- Nicolas Pettiaux, dr. sc ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 Much appreciated, both the statement itself and Ben's efforts to get it. Mike On 15/06/2011 03:36, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Lastben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: OpenStreetMap Learned Discussions t...@openstreetmap.org; OSM Australian Talk List talk...@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:30 AM Subject:

[OSM-legal-talk] data derived from UK Ordnace Survey

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
As a slightly supplementary question of what to do with data from those users who have not agreed to the CT's can I make the following suggestion. Given that we obviously want to move forward with a clean database untainted by any data which might be incompatible with future licences, AND

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net; OSM Australian Talk List talk...@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au]

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-15 Thread Jaak Laineste
That is why OSM is, and will remain, a do-ocracy. My crash course to the issues with different government systems: a) anarchy. Problem: not well fit to a collaborative project b) dictatorship/monarchy. Someone with enough power decides how it works. AFAIK SteveC has empowered OSMF this way.

[OSM-talk] Coastline anf blau background

2011-06-15 Thread Saphy Mo
Dear experts, I rendered some area by mapnik from  France and Germany derived from Europe.osm.bz2. But some part of them are blue. is it some problem with small coast line in this case? or no, that is because of some thing else? please see the attachment. Thank you in advance, Saphy

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread James Andrewartha
On 15 June 2011 11:56, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 10:39 +0800, James Andrewartha wrote: On 15 June 2011 09:36, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread James Andrewartha
On 15 June 2011 09:36, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding submission of derived works of our PhotoMaps to OSM. Dear Ben,

[OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Parveen Arora
Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hack_the_Map So My point is that, just like mapping parties

Re: [OSM-talk] Poll on Governance, what constitutes news, wiki front page

2011-06-15 Thread TimSC
Hi all, This is in reference to the poll here: http://doodle.com/s2zg64vyaup72dcw An idea: can we try to make this discussion more constructive? I have tried to do so here, probably with mixed success. I am beginning to be burdened with non-constructive messages and we really don't have time

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Martijn van Exel
Parveen, On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Michael Collinson
+1 Much appreciated, both the statement itself and Ben's efforts to get it. Mike On 15/06/2011 03:36, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ben Lastben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi all As promised, with apologies for the delay, here is the statement from NearMap regarding

Re: [OSM-talk] Poll on Governance, what constitutes news, wiki front page

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
TimSC wrote: Richard, can't we just live and let live? You're profile has the wise words to avoid endless discussions and go do stuff. I think it is possible since we recently dropped a discussion that was going nowhere, at your suggestion [5]. I respected your request - live and let live. I am

Re: [OSM-talk] Issues with OSM import to postgis

2011-06-15 Thread Zolt Egete
Hello The latest planet file which we have downloaded is OK and we have started with the import Since osm2pgsql does not work for us since there is no sufficient memory we have tried with osmosis Now the reading part is OK since we have 4GB of ram and we also have an additional partition over

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Mike N
On 6/15/2011 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event. Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Andy Street
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:33 +0200, Michael Collinson wrote: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly declined the new contributor terms will no longer be

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Parveen Arora
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:  Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those downloading large areas via the API. You

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 6/15/2011 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: Please give your valuable suggestions to make it better, also add the points that you wants to take care about during this kind of online event event.  Just a note for the local venue -

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hello Everyone, I am organising event to do online mapping, to increase the enrichment of OSM maps, also we have set up a lab to train the students and to make them able to work on OSM on that day.

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread john whelan
I'm also very interested in this. Thanks John On 15 June 2011 06:44, Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:33 +0200, Michael Collinson wrote: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Mike N
On 6/15/2011 7:00 AM, Parveen Arora wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Mike Nnice...@att.net wrote: Just a note for the local venue - in many recent cases, the student edit activities will result in an automatic block on that IP address. The automatic block is necessary to block those

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Parveen Arora
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: First of all, thanks for your valuable response. I'm sure there have been similar events before. Yes, I also thinks that there are many.  I apologize for being critical of your event.  It seems to me that training new

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:33 +0200, Michael Collinson wrote: As per

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread NopMap
Mike Collinson wrote: I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is no urgency to do so until acceptances have been maximised, local issues that have a near term solution have been addressed and

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Chris Jones
On 15/06/11 11:44, Andy Street wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 22:33 +0200, Michael Collinson wrote: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly declined the

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote: It seems a bit backward to block my new contributions just because nobody got around to talking to the OS folks yet... There have been several attempts to engage with OS, if I remember correctly, both by LWG and by

[OSM-talk] Nicaragua/Costa Rica border

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, could someone familiar with the area have a look at this border. It looks wrong but I hesitate to armchair-fix it from thousands of miles away. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=11.0612lon=-85.2039zoom=14layers=M (If you don't see a strange zig-zagging line then someone else has fixed

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM)
On 15 June 2011 14:41, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: There have been several attempts to engage with OS, if I remember correctly, both by LWG and by individual mappers.  They've been resistant. There would presumably be no need to engage with OS if LWG was happy that the OS OpenData

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote: On 15/06/11 14:41, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote: It seems a bit backward to block my new contributions just because nobody got around to talking to the OS folks

Re: [OSM-talk] Nicaragua/Costa Rica border

2011-06-15 Thread colliar
Am 15.06.2011 16:17, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, could someone familiar with the area have a look at this border. It looks wrong but I hesitate to armchair-fix it from thousands of miles away. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=11.0612lon=-85.2039zoom=14layers=M (If you don't see a

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Dave F.
On 15/06/2011 14:41, Richard Weait wrote: What seems backward to me is deciding to use a previously and famously verboten source for your edits without being perfectly clear that those edits are now permitted. Where was it pronounced it was forbidden? Under CC it was acceptable at the time of

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2011 14:41, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Chris Jones roller...@sucs.org wrote: It seems a bit backward to block my new contributions just because nobody got around to talking to the OS folks yet... There have been several attempts to

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2011 01:47, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: It's only as the deadline draws near that those in favour of the change are trying to put the blame on the mappers for there potentially being a conflict. I find this irritating. No, this isn't a new thing, this has pretty much

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-15 Thread Cartinus
On Tuesday 14 June 2011 19:28:52 Pieren wrote: On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Just as a factual point: The Contributor Terms were posted to the mailing lists in September 2009 as far as I can see:

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Eric Marsden
mc == Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz writes: mc As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 mc this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically mc practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly declined mc the new contributor terms will no longer

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr wrote: compared to over 191,000 who now contribute under the new terms. This is disingenuous communication, +1. Correct me if I am wrong but I remember a statement in last SOTM saying that 90% of the new accounts are never

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Dave F.
On 15/06/2011 16:55, John Smith wrote: On 16 June 2011 01:47, Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com wrote: It's only as the deadline draws near that those in favour of the change are trying to put the blame on the mappers for there potentially being a conflict. I find this irritating. No, this isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eric Marsden wrote: Reading odbl.de, 60% of users have accepted the new contributor terms in Europe (40% in the USA, the proportion worldwide is not shown). There 417k users. So (extrapolating) 200k have not accepted the new terms and 190k have accepted. Hopefully the decision on whether to

Re: [OSM-talk] Hack the Map An Idea for Online Mapping Events.

2011-06-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Weait writes: Please include real field work as part of your event. It is that real field work that provides the very best, most current, data to a mapper. Just one caveat to Richard's note: It's reasonable to use aerial photographs as a positional reference for your personal

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Josh Doe
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: [1] I suspect that when obvious bot edits are stripped out, the figure will be a lot higher, especially in America. Certainly, looking around my local area, the only significant non-relicensable objects are ways

[OSM-talk] Community important, license unimportant

2011-06-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Kate, I appreciate your dislike of all the worry about the license, and I agree with it. My biggest take-away from being on the Open Source Initiative board of directors for 13 years was that: community matters; licenses don't. So here we have a situation where 20% of the people think it's really

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 14:49 -0400, Josh Doe wrote: Perhaps it is trivial, but I have yet to hear of anyone working on a script or even pseudocode as to how the cleanup will be performed. Seems like an important item to address IMHO. -Josh According to the implementation plan, sometime after

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Am 14.06.2011 22:33, schrieb Michael Collinson: I would emphasise there is currently no need to remove data from the live database since the license is still CC-BY-SA. I believe there is no urgency to do so until acceptances have been maximised, local issues that have a near term solution

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Am 15.06.2011 06:59, schrieb Russ Nelson: Michael Collinson writes: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly declined the new contributor terms

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au To: Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

[OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Back in 2006 I wrote the following when it still wasn't clear what the ODbL acceptance terms would be like: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 22:10, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: If someone presents me with a boolean Do you allow relicensing under the ODbL I'll have to say no because

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100%of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com To: OpenStreetMap blather talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:06 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100%of my data? Back in 2006 I wrote the following when

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread john whelan
Exactly my own situation, except following poor advice I accepted the new CT. Apparently it is not possible to change the CT status and my formal request to have my suspect data deleted seems to have been ignored. My recommendation is not to accept the CT, and reenter those items that you did

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I say yes to the ODbL if I can't account for 100% of my data?

2011-06-15 Thread Toby Murray
If only there were a way to indicate the *source* of a given object... This is obviously hindsight and doesn't help at this point in your situation but seriously... The source=* tag: use it. Toby On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly my own

Re: [OSM-talk] Community important, license unimportant

2011-06-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2011 04:54, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: As usual, the majority is right, and the minority (both 20%'s!) are wrong. The question that we need to worry about is not the legal terms of the license, but instead: will changing the license hurt the community more than leaving it

Re: [OSM-talk] link on wiki to new research report

2011-06-15 Thread Mike N
On 6/15/2011 7:41 AM, Hillsman, Edward wrote: One of my colleagues and I have completed a report on developing multimodal trip planners. The report focuses on open-source software, and open data sources such as OpenStreetMap and public transportation data in GTFS format. The report is available

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Heiko Jacobs-2 wrote: Am 15.06.2011 06:59, schrieb Russ Nelson: Michael Collinson writes: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly

[OSM-talk] Tag AND_a_nosr_p and source=AND?

2011-06-15 Thread Joseph Koshy
I have seen the tags AND_a_nosr_p=NUMBER and source=AND associated with some nodes in OpenStreetMap. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245622615/history Would anyone know what the context for these tags is? I can't seem to find documentation for the 'AND_a_nosr_p' tag,

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag AND_a_nosr_p and source=AND?

2011-06-15 Thread Brad Neuhauser
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AND On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Joseph Koshy joseph.ko...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen the tags AND_a_nosr_p=NUMBER and source=AND associated with some nodes in OpenStreetMap. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245622615/history

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Russ Nelson
Heiko Jacobs writes: Am 15.06.2011 06:59, schrieb Russ Nelson: Michael Collinson writes: As per the implementation plan [1], we intend to move to phase 4 this Sunday 19th June or as soon after as is technically practical. This will mean that anyone who has explicitly

[talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-15 Thread Nick Hocking
Gary wrote... I've been working on my suburb (Brunswick East), and keep coming across tangled messes of ways caused by the boundary data effectively floating above different ways. Roads are being connected to the boundary instead of the the road. The road or other way has been moved to create a

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: OpenStreetMap Learned Discussions t...@openstreetmap.org; OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 2:30 AM Subject:

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Ben Last
On 15 June 2011 19:52, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: sorry to be pedantic, but when you say the second paragraph allows edits submitted before the 17th of June 2011 under CC-BY-SA (i.e., by someone who hadn't accepted the new CTs at the time of submission) . to stay in

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net; OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au]

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission ofderived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net To: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org; Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread James Andrewartha
On 16 June 2011 07:48, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: On 15 June 2011 19:52, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: sorry to be pedantic, but when you say the second paragraph allows edits submitted before the 17th of  June 2011 under CC-BY-SA (i.e., by someone who hadn't accepted

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread Ben Last
James; all I can say is that the paragraph in question was written by our General Counsel specifically to allow existing contributions to stay in place. I'm not a lawyer, so I can't comment on interpretation! Regards Ben PS: TRS80? I'm old enough to have owned one when they were new :( On

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission ofderived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-15 Thread John Henderson
On 16/06/11 10:21, David Groom wrote: I should have added how impressed I am with the generous attitude that Nearmap has taken in regards to these past contributions, please pass my thanks on to those concerned. I second that. I'm delighted that I can now accept the new terms without

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-15 Thread Gary Gallagher
Thanks for all the comments, I think I'll hold off. It does seem unfortunate that there is no basic work-flow to convert a boundary into a relation containing the ways that make it up. From what you've said Nick merging nodes still keeps them as separate ways just stacked on top of each other -

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2011 15:01, Gary Gallagher g.null.dev...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for all the comments, I think I'll hold off. It does seem unfortunate that there is no basic work-flow to convert a boundary into a relation containing the ways that make it up. From what you've said Nick merging nodes

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500 Atualizado

2011-06-15 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Olás, Vocês sabem quanto tempo leva para as atualizações feitas no OSM aparecerem nos mapas da CloudMade? A ERS-737 que liga Arroio do Padre à BR-116 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/114454930) está mapeada há semanas, mas Arroio do Padre ainda aparece como não conectada. Obrigado! LMB

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500 Atualizado

2011-06-15 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Oi gente Cloudmade atualizando Navi maps cada 24 horas e outros servicos uma vez por semana [0] [0] http://support.cloudmade.com/answers/general Aun Y. Johnsen Sent from my iPad On 15. juni 2011, at 10:05, Leandro Motta Barros lmbar...@gmail.com wrote: Olás, Vocês sabem quanto tempo leva

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500: Atualização de 12/06/2011

2011-06-15 Thread Guilherme Dagostin Donadel
Obrigado! Guilherme D'Agostin Donadel Em 13 de junho de 2011 16:15, vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com escreveu: Oi Guilherme, Para corrigir a rota, você deve clicar no link dela para ve-la no mapa da Cloudmade, e aí ir movendo os pontos de partida/chegada até identificar em qual ponto da rota

Re: [Talk-br] Brasil 5500 Atualizado

2011-06-15 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Sei la Talvez eles tem um problema com o tile render? Tenta atualizar outros objetos no area, por exemplo adicionar um posto gasolina e ver que este vai fica atualizado. Aun Y. Johnsen Sent from my iPad On 15. juni 2011, at 13:11, Leandro Motta Barros lmbar...@gmail.com wrote: Obrigado pela

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentando-me

2011-06-15 Thread Claudomiro Nascimento Junior
Seja bem-vindo Daniel! Acho que se apresentando por aqui você é o primeiro de Fortaleza... 2011/6/15 Daniel Bessa polit...@gmail.com Olá, Sou Daniel Bessa de Fortaleza/CE e comecei a entender o OSM agora. Estou tentando mapear a área onde moro pra aprender a utilizar as ferramentas. Tem

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentando-me

2011-06-15 Thread Alexandre Parente Lima
Ferramentas, tá ai um dos calos do OSM! O JOSM, para usar tem que fazer um curso :) O Potlatch é umas das piores ferramentas em flash que eu ja vi :) O Merkaartor, esse eu nunca consegui usar :/ Em 15 de junho de 2011 17:24, Claudomiro Nascimento Junior claudom...@claudomiro.com escreveu:

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentando-me

2011-06-15 Thread Daniel Bessa
Obrigado Claudomiro. Alexandre, como comecei a usar agora, ainda não estou sentindo muita falta de recursos. O Potlatch é bem intuitivo! Mas já instalei o JOSM e consegui importar um GPX! Se for como você falou, já me considero um vitorioso! hehe. Att, *Daniel Bessa*

[Talk-br] Escolas georeferenciadas

2011-06-15 Thread Daniel Bessa
Mapeadores, Um amigo meu trabalho com Geoprocessamento no Governo do Ceará e ele me disse que tem todas as escola estaduais georeferenciadas. Alguém tem ideia de como podemos importar isso pro OSM? Já fizeram algo parecido? -- Att, *Daniel Bessa* http://coldlemon.wordpress.com

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentando-me

2011-06-15 Thread vitor
Oi Daniel, As ferramentas tem diferentes curvas de aprendizado, sendo o JOSM a ferramenta mais difícil e também mais poderosa de usar. Qualquer dúvida, poste aqui ou no ajuda.mapaslivres.org. Eu fiz umas edições a partir de imagens de satélite perto de Fortaleza para corrigir rotas do Brasil

Re: [Talk-br] Escolas georeferenciadas

2011-06-15 Thread vitor
Oi Daniel, Já foram feitas várias importações sim, mas elas devem ser feitas com muito cuidado, para garantir que não haja sobreposição e que os dados importados estão consistentes. Você já tem a base? Tenta ver se consegue disponibilizar pra gente ver antes de importar. Há bastante gente aqui

[Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Hi ! ich wollte einmal fragen ob einer von Euch Erfahrung hinsichtlich proxy-Server hat. Es geht darum das in einer Anwendung die OSM-Karte Anwendung finden soll und nun etwas an den Performance-Schrauben gedreht werden soll. Dabei bin ich über einen Artikel zum Thema Proxy-Server bei

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-15 Thread Manuel Reimer
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com writes: genau darum geht es doch: die osm-Datei in die Datenbank einlesen und zum Rendern vorbereiten (Multipolygonrelationen parsen, Flächen berechnen, Renderreihenfolge vorberechnen, etc.) Muss man aber erstmal schaffen. Die Anleitungen, die ich

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: Dabei bin ich über einen Artikel zum Thema Proxy-Server bei DrWeb [1] gestolpert und nun wollte ich fragen ob einer von Euch das schon einmal gemacht hat ?? Das ist voelliger Bloedsinn, was in dem Artikel steht. Niemand, der halbwegs Ahnung hat, wuerde einen

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Manuel Reimer wrote: Was genau ist denn nun zu tun, um *lokal* eine PostgreSQL-DB laufen zu lassen? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik/PostGIS ist die Seite, die Du suchst. (Je nachdem, welche Linux-Distribution Du hast, koennte es ein ganz bisschen anders sein, z.B. ist bei den

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Walter Nordmann
Hi Jan, klar ist das schneller - steht ja auch im Artikel drin: Aus dem Browser-Cache sind Kacheln mit ca. 30ms sehr schnell geholt. Der Server liefert sie auch noch recht flott innerhalb ca. 81ms. Muss eine Kachel erst vom OSM-Server geholten werden, dauert es einige hundert Millisekunden.

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Georg Ringer
Am 15.06.2011 09:44, schrieb Walter Nordmann: p.s. der Browser-Cache lässt sich ja als erfahrener Anwender mit z.B shift-reload umgehen - kann man das bei einem internen Proxy auch? Da komm ich etwas ins Schwimmen natürlich, es kommt halt auf die richtige implementierung an. der proxy muss

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Manuel Reimer
Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org writes: Allerdings ist die primaere Motivation im Artikel die, dass man Tiles ueber https ausliefern will. Scheinbar. Ein Stückweit ist dieses Cachen dann vermutlich auch ein Umgehen der Bot-Bremse der Tile-Server. Dennoch sehe ich hier eine große

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Walter Nordmann
Manuel Reimer wrote: Wahrscheinlichkeit, dass sowas, wenn öffentlich betrieben, relativ schnell OSM-Server-Seitig als Bot erkannt und abgeklemmt wird. Dürften entschieden zu viele Querys von einer einzigen IP werden. ist das den nicht auch bei vielen Netzwerken ohne Proxy der Fall? Lokal

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-15 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 15. Juni 2011 09:36 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Muss ich die Küstenlinien und die ganzen anderen großen Files laden, wenn ich ein Gebiet rendern will, welches eigentlich fernab einer Küstenlinie ist? Nein, in dem Fall aenderst Du einfach die Hintergrundfarbe der Karte (Map

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Walter Nordmann
nachschlag: der tile-server beachtet wahrscheinlich auch noch die Port-Nummer. Mehrere Requests von einer IP-Adsresse aber unterschiedlichen Ports - mehrere Rechner - OK Viele Request von EINER IP-Adresse und dem selben Port - nanu? - blocken und der Proxy geht halt für verschiedene lokale

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-15 Thread Walter Nordmann
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Was den User angeht: ich benutze einfach den normalen User und mache den zum Datenbanksuperuser. Das funktioniert problemlos, ob es Sicherheitslücken öffnet, weiss ich aber nicht genau. Hi Martin, das kommt halt auf das Umfeld an. Ein gut per Firewall

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Manuel Reimer
Walter Nordmann walter.nordmann at web.de writes: und der Proxy geht halt für verschiedene lokale Rechner mit dem gleichen Port raus: bad luck :( Stimmt. Hat AFAIR schonmal zu Problemen geführt. Ist dann halt ein Fall von Pech gehabt. Besser auf jedem Fall als Massendownloads. Vor kurzem haben

Re: [Talk-de] Wie Kartenbereich aus API-Export rendern

2011-06-15 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Dienstag 14 Juni 2011 12:51:41 schrieb Manuel Reimer: Wolfgang wolfgang at ivkasogis.de writes: Male 2 Linien. In der Logig des Programms legst du erst eine weiße Linie und darunter eine schwarze dickere Linie fest. Dann sieht du schon, dass die weiße Linie Vorrang vor der

Re: [Talk-de] Mail an User betreffs Lizenzwechsel erfolgt

2011-06-15 Thread Sven Geggus
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Wenn einem diese Sachen nun unter dem Hintern wegbroeseln, aergert man sich: Haette ich sie mal damals gleich geloescht und neu gemacht, das waer auch nicht mehr Arbeit gewesen (manchmal sogar weniger). Eben! Ich mache das sogar bewußt, damit die

[Talk-de] OpenCycleMap als garmin image fertig zum DL?

2011-06-15 Thread Lars Schimmer
Moin! Dank Faulheit und anderer Gründe hab ich erst heute die OpenCacleMap entdeckt - und diese hat sogar die Radwanderwege eingetragen, die ich im Sommer abfahren möchte. Jetzt die Frage: kennt einer eine Location, auf der diese OpenCycleMap als Garmin Image fertig zum DL angeboten wird?

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, On 06/15/2011 10:54 AM, Walter Nordmann wrote: nachschlag: der tile-server beachtet wahrscheinlich auch noch die Port-Nummer. Nein. Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Mail an User betreffs Lizenzwechsel erfolgt

2011-06-15 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Mittwoch 15 Juni 2011 11:28:18 schrieb Sven Geggus: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Einerseits wird das Problem durch die neuen Contributor Terms zwar abgemildert, andererseits *haette* man das Problem ja gar nicht, wenn man nicht einen Lizenzwechsel anstreben wuerde.

Re: [Talk-de] Performance-Steigerung durch Proxy-Server

2011-06-15 Thread Walter Nordmann
Frederik Ramm wrote: Hallo, On 06/15/2011 10:54 AM, Walter Nordmann wrote: nachschlag: der tile-server beachtet wahrscheinlich auch noch die Port-Nummer. Nein. nee? dann kann ich mir auch nicht erklären, dass es bei grossen Netzwerken, die hinter einem Gateway (Router) liegen, nicht

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