Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Roland, thanks for the links. Local knowledge is very important, but lets not make it into a sacred cow at the cost of common sense. I have not been to every single street in New York City. I am nearly 100% sure that all editors has edited objects that were near their location, but that they have

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2017-10-25 07:31, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it to

Re: [OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Michał Brzozowski
I think this is to contrast our rules with their - quite different - rules. But maybe you're right. Obviously in the old times much of our users were Wikipedians. Michał 25.10.2017 07:36 "Daniel Koć" napisał(a): > W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: > >> See

[OSM-talk] Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users ?

2017-10-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.10.2017 o 07:08, Roland Olbricht pisze: See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Why is this page named "Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users"? Can we just move it to "Welcome_to_OpenStreetMap_users" or there are some not obvious

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Roland Olbricht
But what you are saying is very strange if I understood you correctly.  What I read here is that the only people allowed to fix things are those that know ALL tags and their meaning. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users#Original_research_always_wins Or similar

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Tomas Straupis
2017-10-25 6:53 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote: > You mean "stop any editing, cause we need two weeks or two years to make > sure refs are correct and we don't have any other means to remember about > the problem than to leave some obvious mistake everyone will trip over until > we are sure about

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Ryszard Mikke
On 24 October 2017 at 17:19, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote: > > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to > > disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in > > Wikipedia, link

[Talk-ca] Planning mapathon @ McGill in OSM Geo Week

2017-10-24 Thread Tim Elrick, Dr.
Hello OSMappers, I am Tim Elrick, heading the Geographic Information Centre at McGill. I am involved with organizing a mapathon at McGill in Montreal in OSM Geo Week in November. I am reaching out to you to find local experienced mappers to support us in the mapathon (I followed the discussion

Re: [Talk-it] Fwd: State of the Map US conference short recap

2017-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Oct 2017, at 20:02, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > > Notevole. :) > https://www.flickr.com/photos/openstreetmapus/37129919014 > https://www.flickr.com/photos/openstreetmapus/24053685378 > si, soprattutto i contenitori del caffè nella seconda

Re: [Talk-GB] pub defined as a relation

2017-10-24 Thread Dave F
Oh Dear. I've always been hesitant to call out specific contributors by name, but user 'mentor' has been a repeated thorn in my side whenever he's (male?) 'contributed' in my locale. Those edits can, at best, be described 'assumptive' (either that, or he's widely travelled within the UK,

[Talk-it] rendering highway=via_ferrata.

2017-10-24 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Mi è stato fatto notare oggi da un utente, cosa a cui non ho mai fatto caso, ho sempre messo questo tag nelle poche way incontrate, e mappate, però su Josm ho sempre visto una way grigia, non renderizzata o con simbologie sue, ma non mi sono mai posto il problema, anche se non lo è. Per cui

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Steve Doerr
On 24/10/2017 18:07, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tomas Straupis > wrote: 2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote: > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Recupero coordinate passi alpini

2017-10-24 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 24/10/2017 21:54, Michele Malfatti ha scritto: Ciao a tutti c'Ú un qualche strumento che mi permette di ottenere le coordinate geografiche di un passo alpino? Grazie Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-it-trentino mailing list

[Talk-es] Ediciones realizadas como función de un puesto de trabajo

2017-10-24 Thread Iván Hernández Cazorla
Buenas, No tengo claro cómo va el asunto de las ediciones realizadas a partir de una función que un trabajador tiene que ejercer en su puesto de trabajo. En los proyectos Wikimedia a estas cuentas se las denomina «cuentas remuneradas», es decir, usuarios que cobran por un trabajo. Sus

[Talk-it-trentino] Recupero coordinate passi alpini

2017-10-24 Thread Michele Malfatti
Ciao a tutti c'è un qualche strumento che mi permette di ottenere le coordinate geografiche di un passo alpino? Grazie Sent from my iPhone ___ Talk-it-trentino mailing list Talk-it-trentino@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-es] (sin asunto)

2017-10-24 Thread Iván Hernández Cazorla
Buenas Iñaki, Totalmente cierto, el topónimo no tiene propietario ni es un elemento registrado, es decir, no es una obra en si mismo. Lo que comentaba sobre el dominio público era referido a las obras creadas, ya sean libros, artículos, fotografías, etcétera. Lo interesante, desde mi punto

Re: [Talk-es] (sin asunto)

2017-10-24 Thread Iván Hernández Cazorla
Buenas Miguel, No lo tengo del todo claro. Pero, si el libro tuviese en su interior la lista de autores que han trabajado en él, posiblemente se requerirían 70 años del fallecimiento de cada uno de ellos; por ende, 70 años del fallecimiento del último de esos autores que haya fallecido. Si no

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Calvaires et cadastre

2017-10-24 Thread Frédéric Rodrigo
Tout à fait, et c'est bien pour ça que je pose la question de la pertinence de l'intégrer à Osmose. Et avoir des retours sur la qualité des suggestion faites. Le 23/10/2017 à 23:40, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit : Tu veux dire qu'à cet endroit ou à côté il y a ou il y a eu un

Re: [Talk-it] Incontro di co-design a Bologna

2017-10-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
Sono ingeressato. Volker (Padova) 2017-10-24 18:54 GMT+02:00 Lorenzo Perone : > Ciao, > scusate il cross-posting, mi hanno invitato ad un incontro di co-design > organizzato dal comune di Bologna sul tema "bici" intitolato Mapathon > #rastrelliereBiciBo > Qui

[Talk-it] Fwd: State of the Map US conference short recap

2017-10-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Notevole. :) https://www.flickr.com/photos/openstreetmapus/37129919014 https://www.flickr.com/photos/openstreetmapus/24053685378 Federico Messaggio inoltrato Oggetto:[Maps-l] State of the Map US conference short recap Data: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 11:55:28 -0600 Mittente:

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Ryszard, I have disabled the fixing from the "embed" mode - you can still open the query (using "edit query"), click the "run" button (blue play button), and fix things from there. In my spare time, I am still working on the next version, based on all the useful feedback: * It will be easy to

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote: > > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to > > disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in > > Wikipedia,

Re: [Talk-es] (sin asunto)

2017-10-24 Thread Iñaki
Buenas tardes:     Me ha encantado la descripción legal sobre los derechos de autor, pero en cuanto a topónimos, creo que nos estamos pasando de la raya.     Un topónimo no tiene propietario, no tiene dueño. Yo puedo recoger topónimos en un libro con copyright, pero no necesito ninguna

[Talk-it] Incontro di co-design a Bologna

2017-10-24 Thread Lorenzo Perone
Ciao, scusate il cross-posting, mi hanno invitato ad un incontro di co-design organizzato dal comune di Bologna sul tema "bici" intitolato Mapathon #rastrelliereBiciBo Qui http://dati.comune.bologna.it/node/3097 potete trovare altre info. C'è qualcuno interessato a partecipare? Ciao. Lorenzo

[Talk-GB] pub defined as a relation

2017-10-24 Thread Jez Nicholson
Just preparing an Overpass query for the OSM workshop I am running in Brighton. Naturally I queried pubsthen wondered whether I need bother with relationsand found http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3216899 Seems a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut. While i'm here, can anyone tell

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create custom online map from OpenStreetMap

2017-10-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 23.10.2017 o 22:06, Andy Townsend pisze: On 22/10/2017 18:47, Carlos Cámara wrote: I would like to create a custom map for online use that loads OSM data but displays it in different ways as the standard, cyclemap, transport... layers. The most important question is: how do you want

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Tomas Straupis
2017-10-24 15:56 GMT+03:00 Ryszard Mikke wrote: > Why, in this case is it better to have Wikipedia links in OSM point to > disambiguation page instead of link Hillfort 1 in OSM to Hillfort 1 in > Wikipedia, link Hillfort 2 accordingly and fix Wikipedia doubts in > Wikipedia? So that the case is

Re: [OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

2017-10-24 Thread Ryszard Mikke
Please, PLEASE, stick to the case. The case is: 1) there are two hillforts, let's call them Hillfort 1 and Hillfort 2 for simplicity. 2) both have big information tables on the ground, with their names on them 3) so they are named Hillfort 1 and Hillfort 2 in OSM and nobody objects that. 4) both

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 23 October 2017, Frederik Ramm wrote: > [...] > > What would be *your* words to say "Hey everybody, I saw this, and I > think it is bad and needs to change"? What choice of language would > adequately express your being upset about what you have seen, without > being denounced as a

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS/OSM comparison tool now includes graphs

2017-10-24 Thread Gregrs
I've been in touch with the FSA and I'm glad to say that the geocodes for many establishments in Copeland, Middlesborough, Sedgemeoor, Portsmouth and South Tyneside are back, so their data can be accessed using the comparison tool (http://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhrs) again. Stirling is

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Quick-Fix service

2017-10-24 Thread Ryszard Mikke
Even without disabling - what a better tool fixes, JOSM's autofix won't find... On 17 October 2017 at 09:50, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Well, you kind of can fix one with the other - by introducing a better > tool and disabling some of the autofixes in JOSM (very easy to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Calvaires et cadastre

2017-10-24 Thread Nicolas Moyroud
Salut, MapContrib affiche les calvaires d'OSM en vert, ceux du cadastre en jaune Osmose affiche les calvaires du cadastre pour les quel il n'y en a pas à proximité dans OSM. Donc dans la zone que j'ai cité il y a un souci du côté des données d'osmose. Sur mapcontrib il y a beaucoup de points

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Peste à Mada (anciennement sujet : OSMGeoWeek)

2017-10-24 Thread marc marc
Bonjour, Le 24. 10. 17 à 11:47, Raphael Jacquot a écrit : > * égouts bouchés > * saison des pluies en cours Pour une fois je me permet un total hors sujet. les réseaux d’égout traditionnel sont d'une inefficacité grave face aux saisons des pluies. une vision alternative

Re: [OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

2017-10-24 Thread joost schouppe
As a European who is frequently annoyed with both the harshness of some Europeans, as well as the oversensitiveness for criticism from Americans, I agree with both Frederik and Mikel. I do read a clear out-group perspective in how Christoph wrote about this subject. This to me is still strange.

Re: [Talk-es] (sin asunto)

2017-10-24 Thread Miguel Sevilla-Callejo
Gracias Iván, Me apunto lo de los 70 años pero, eso es para libros de autores, ¿para material generado por una institución? ¿Serán también 70 años? M -- *Miguel Sevilla-Callejo* Doctor en Geografía 2017-10-23 13:54 GMT+02:00 Iván Hernández Cazorla : > Buenas, > A la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Peste à Mada (anciennement sujet : OSMGeoWeek)

2017-10-24 Thread Raphael Jacquot
On 10/24/2017 11:10 AM, Violaine Doutreleau wrote: > Hello Philippe, > > Oui le problème c'est que c'est plus la peste bubonique cette fois mais > pulmonaire, transmissible par l'air, mortelle en qqs jours.. Et quand on > connait les conditions sanitaires à Mada, on s'inquiète forcément. Nous >

Re: [Talk-it] Utilità cartelli limiti di velocità

2017-10-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-10-22 20:37 GMT+02:00 carlo folini : > Guardando su OSM ho trovato (andando a caso) questo cartello che è > completamente scollegato dalla strada per cui è stato messo. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3324840295 (spero che l'utente emmexx > che è su osm da quasi

[OSM-talk-fr] Peste à Mada (anciennement sujet : OSMGeoWeek)

2017-10-24 Thread Violaine Doutreleau
Hello Philippe, Oui le problème c'est que c'est plus la peste bubonique cette fois mais pulmonaire, transmissible par l'air, mortelle en qqs jours.. Et quand on connait les conditions sanitaires à Mada, on s'inquiète forcément. Nous sommes bien en contact avec HOT sur Skype et essayons de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OSMGeoWeek et francophonie - Dernière ligne droite !

2017-10-24 Thread Philippe Verdy
A ce sujet, l'équipe HOT cherche à contacter Violaine concernant l'urgence épidémique à Madagascar et la panique qui commence à s'installer. L'OMS et la Croix Rouge s'inquiètent de l'évolution et de la hausser du nombre de morts et la propagation dans les centres urbains. Déjà plus de 900 cas et

[Talk-GB] Nottingham pub meeting October

2017-10-24 Thread SK53
Just to confirm this meeting will take place next week (rather than tonight) on Halloweeen 31st October at our ususl venue, the Lincolnshire Poacher. Wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nottingham/Pub_Meetup Regards, Jerry ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-es] Áreas de protección de monumentos

2017-10-24 Thread Javier Sánchez Portero
Sería de esa forma pero no es imprescindible que lo hagas con una relación. Si es un área relativamente pequeña puedes hacerlo simplemente con una vía cerrada. Si es un área más compleja y/o quieres aprovechar vías ya existentes, puedes hacerlo con una relación. En ese caso no te olvides de la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] OSMGeoWeek et francophonie - Dernière ligne droite !

2017-10-24 Thread Jean-Christophe Becquet
Le 23/10/2017 14:54, Violaine Doutreleau a écrit : > A ce jour, 9 villes en France seront de la partie Bravo ! Ça vaudrait le coup de soumettre ces événements dans l'Agenda du libre avec les tags openstreetmap et osmgeoweek. Pour le moment, on ne trouve que Rennes.

Re: [Talk-it] Utilità cartelli limiti di velocità

2017-10-24 Thread Marco Minghini
Aproposito, qualcuno ha usato le nuove api mapillary con la segnaletica? È stato l'argomento del MapTime Milano di giovedì scorso, ho mandato proprio ieri sera una mail a riguardo. Il 23/ott/2017 14:39, "Alessandro" ha scritto: > Il 23/10/2017 11:09, emmexx ha scritto: > >

Re: [Talk-it] volontari cercasi per organizzazione State of the Map 2018

2017-10-24 Thread Aury88
Alessandro Palmas wrote > - Communications (email newsletter, blog). > Qualcuno/a che dia supporto alla nostra communication manager Francesca > nel gestire i vari canali di comunicazione (twitter, Facebook, il blog e > la newsletter); anche un lavoro di traduzione è molto utile. Anche in > questo