[OSM-talk] Mapnik Tile Rendering outage this evening.

2011-08-25 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, There will be a 2 hour rendering outage for tile.openstreetmap.org this evening from approximately 17:00 GMT. Static tiles will be available. Maps will still be viewable on the openstreetmap.org homepage and on other people's websites. We’ll be serving tiles from a back-up tile server. Howeve

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering Server Outage - Static Tiles

2011-07-25 Thread Grant Slater
All clear. Tile rendering is enabled again. Regards Grant On 25 July 2011 10:50, Grant Slater wrote: > OSM, > > The tile rendering server  (yevaud) has experienced a hardware failure > this morning. > We've switched to the backup server, which only serves static tiles. >

[OSM-talk] Rendering Server Outage - Static Tiles

2011-07-25 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, The tile rendering server (yevaud) has experienced a hardware failure this morning. We've switched to the backup server, which only serves static tiles. The tiles may be up to 10 days old. Grant Part of OSM sysadmin Team. ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance Work (Partial Outage)

2011-06-28 Thread Grant Slater
Some secondary OpenStreetMap services will be unavailable during the following dates, due to power maintenance work at our server hosting: - 2nd and 3rd July 2011. (Saturday & Sunday) - 30th and 31st July 2011. (Saturday & Sunday) - 3rd and 4th September 2011. (Saturday & Sunday) - and 1 weekday (

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhauling the Beginners’ Guide

2011-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 June 2011 15:00, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 6/25/2011 9:59 AM, Grant Slater wrote: >> >> On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars II  wrote: >>> >>> Andrew-2 wrote: >>>> >>>> It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t

Re: [OSM-talk] Overhauling the Beginners’ Guide

2011-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 June 2011 14:56, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > Andrew-2 wrote: >> >> It says Yahoo is the main imagery source but it isn’t beginners’ level >> material any more and soon won’t be available at all. > First I've heard of this: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Aerial_Imagery > The aer

Re: [OSM-talk] Thank you sysadmins!

2011-06-23 Thread Grant Slater
On 24 June 2011 02:45, Richard Weait wrote: > > OpenStreetMap came through the scheduled maintenance on 23 June in > great shape. > Pictures or it didn't happen! http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrywood/5863059620/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/harrywood/5863059624/in/photostream http

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - 23rd June 2011

2011-06-23 Thread Grant Slater
Quick update. The maintenance has been completed. All services are up and running again. API + www.openstreetmap.org is running a little slower than normal due to reduced capacity, but will return to normal late Friday afternoon (GMT). / Grant On 9 June 2011 21:17, Grant Slater wrote: > Ple

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License for OSM tiles

2011-06-20 Thread Grant Slater
On 20 June 2011 10:52, TimSC wrote: > > Any thoughts? > Thread starts here: "Best license for future tiles?" - http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-November/005045.html There are some interesting thoughts bits between the noise. / Grant __

Re: [OSM-talk] bulk_upload.py consistently results in 500 server error

2011-06-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 June 2011 07:34, Toby Murray wrote: > 2011/6/17 KKL Import : >> Can somebody please help? How come a perfectly legal osmChange, containing >> just a single way, is being rejected time and again? > > Has this been resolved yet? It almost sounds like a very rare > condition I've seen admins di

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Uniteed State part 00 and part 01

2011-06-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 June 2011 11:44, Saphy Mo wrote: > americas.osm.bz2.part.00 (3814.7M) > americas.osm.bz2.part.01 (2590.9M) > > Dears, > > on the website ' > http://downloads.cloudmade.com/americas#downloads_breadcrumbs ' > there are two files for USA. as part 00 and 01. But I don't know how should > I combi

Re: [OSM-talk] Announce: Beginning of Phase 4 of license change process

2011-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2011 14:41, Richard Weait wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > >> It seems a bit backward to block my new contributions just because >> nobody got around to talking to the OS folks yet... > > There have been several attempts to engage with OS, if I remember >

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing Maps are amazing.

2011-06-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 June 2011 06:45, Nick Hocking wrote: > I just added some more new roads to the Canberra area. They were rendered in > Bing maps within 10 seconds of uploading to OSM!!! > Do you mean Bing or MapQuest? I wasn't aware that Bing was using OSM data yet. Example link? / Grant _

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - 23rd June 2011

2011-06-09 Thread Grant Slater
Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. Thursday 7:30am (23rd June 2011 GMT/UTC+0) the API and map editing on www.openstreetmap.org will be unavailable. The maintenance period is expected to last for 12 hours. The following services will be unavailable during the maintenance period: API,

Re: [OSM-talk] Bandwidth limit/IP blocking - Error 303 on the OSM API?

2011-06-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 June 2011 03:42, David Murn wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 22:18 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Yes, you got blocked on 16th May by the looks of it. I don't think I did >> it so it was probably one of my colleagues. > > Is there not some sort of audit trail or changelog for when users get > bl

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 May 2011 14:54, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/5/16 Grant Slater : >> On 16 May 2011 13:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> btw.: is there a text similar to the tile usage policy (logo usage >>> policy)? >> No, there is no formal policy document. There w

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 May 2011 13:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > btw.: is there a text similar to the tile usage policy (logo usage > policy)? No, there is no formal policy document. There was discussion of adopting http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy or similar when the trademark was first registere

Re: [OSM-talk] Unlicensed use of the logo in iPhone app?

2011-05-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 May 2011 22:46, Yann Coupin wrote: > Hi, > > Just spotted that new app which is using osm's logo as the app's icon. I'm > pretty sure this is unlicensed use and it should be taken down but I don't > know who should start the dialog with the dev and/or apple. > > App link : http://itunes.ap

Re: [OSM-talk] Quicker Tile Rendering

2011-05-08 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 May 2011 16:18, Martijn van Exel wrote: > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Grant Slater > wrote: >> >> The full DB reload into PG9 used approximately 1TB of the SSD write >> capacity of a rating of 60TB. Now that only diffs are being applied > > Does that m

[OSM-talk] Quicker Tile Rendering

2011-05-08 Thread Grant Slater
Hi OSM, The OSM tile server has been upgraded over the last few days. Changes should now appear much quicker on the map. Many thanks to Jon Burgess, the Mapnik.org guys and the others for making this happen. Technical: The rendering database was switched to an Intel 320 Series 600GB SSD disk, fr

[OSM-talk] FAQs from help.osm.org

2011-05-05 Thread Grant Slater
1) What are the most common mapping mistakes that other users make? http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1022/what-are-the-most-common-mapping-mistakes-that-other-users-make 2) How do I see the history for my area? http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/7/how-do-i-see-the-history-for-my-are

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Policy - Valid User Agent

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 May 2011 02:39, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Aldo, > > The sys-admin team is likely asleep right now (it's pretty late in > London) ... > Sysadmins never sleep ;-) / Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/l

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile Usage Policy - Valid User Agent

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 May 2011 02:24, Aldo Caruso wrote: > I'm developing a Delphi unit to display slippy maps which shall be used by > an application. > The Tile Usage Policy states that a Valid User Agent should be identified. > The library I'm using to connect as an HTTP client has by default the > following us

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-02 Thread Grant Slater
On 2 May 2011 12:43, Dave F. wrote: > On 02/05/2011 05:53, Andrew Gregory wrote: >> >> I just had to comment on this because I could hardly believe what I was >> reading... > > A quick note to point out that we'd wouldn't be able to have this discussion > on IRC as we either live in different time

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 19:04, Russ Nelson wrote: > Grant Slater writes: >  > Do you think the new logo is an improvement over the old logo? > > If I had only published this logo a month ago, we wouldn't be having > this argument now: > > http://russnelson.com/temp/russ-osm

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 17:32, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/4/30 Frederik Ramm : >> I like the haphazard way in which things are done around here. And I'm not >> saying this tongue-in-cheek, I really do. It gives me hope that we're not >> yet in a situation where every improvement has to go through

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 18:21, Simon Poole wrote: > > I just don't see what wanting to avoid flame wars on this list (which will > happen anyway QED), has to do with informing the large majority of > participants in OSM in advance of, not unimportant, changes and events. > Hi Simon, Do you think the ne

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 17:24, SteveC wrote: > > Instead of taking 8 weeks to have a process, let's treat it as 8 weeks where > anyone can help fix these theoretical and technical logo issues. It's right > there, anyone can help. So who's going to do it? > I've updated the OSM logos on Wikipedia, meta

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread Grant Slater
On 30 April 2011 12:56, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I noticed that there is a new OSM logo in the wiki. I find it strange > that important things like changing the well established logo of the > project are beeing changed without any discussion or notice on any of > the lists, or did I miss somet

Re: [OSM-talk] Real time editing visualization

2011-04-27 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 April 2011 15:28, Mikel wrote: > Is there a visualization that shows changeset commits in real time? Would be > as easy as refreshing the history GeoRSS feed every minute in OpenLayers. > > That actually would be a nice feature for the history page as well (but > static) > > Someone sent t

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 April 2011 05:05, Russ Nelson wrote: > Frederik Ramm writes: >  > No. To get access to (at least TeleAtlas's or Navteq's) data you will >  > have to sign an agreement that binds you to much more than just plain >  > copyright. > > Did you sign an agreement to use your personal navigation dev

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 April 2011 23:36, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> I would like a big player with a big legal department - say, for example, >> Navteq - grabbing our data for a reasonably well mapped place, perhaps a >> city only, incorporating it int

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
reenter > data  following the new guidelines.  I'm not happy to have some one else say > don't worry about it. > Thanks for that. What is the answer to my second question? Where do the potentially problem contributions come from? Email me off list if you must. Regards Grant

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 April 2011 00:38, john whelan wrote: >>If data is "tainted" in a way that makes in incompatible with the currently >> used license then it will have to be removed in order not to put the project >> at risk (e.g. data copied from proprietary sources). This is independent of >> the license cha

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 21:46, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:10:19 +0100 > Grant Slater wrote: > >> I am sure there are going to be a few cases where difficult decisions >> are going to have to be made. We will not have been the only open >> source projec

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 19:33, Mike N wrote: > On 4/14/2011 2:20 PM, Grant Slater wrote: >> >> The revert script used to remove Anthony's edits (which were traced >> from Google) was a basic revert script which only used API methods. >> There were also mistakes made like

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 19:05, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I oppose the change, primarily because of the damage it will cause. I've > already seen what removing small amounts of data will do > (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2011-March/057318.html) and > do not wish to see more of this. >

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 begins Sunday

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 April 2011 17:26, john whelan wrote: > Unfortunately I some of my edits used some sources that looked fine under > the for CC-by-SA terms but on closer inspection of the ODBL terms, which was > done after I blindly followed the advice of another contributor, I am not at > all comfortable tha

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 April 2011 21:11, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > What happens in the future if I decline? Can I accept at a later date? > Yes you can accept at a later date. Regards Grant Part of LWG. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.ope

Re: [OSM-talk] Other Mapnik XML styles?

2011-04-11 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 April 2011 03:48, Daniel Sabo wrote: > Are there any collections of other mapnik styles for OSM data? I'm looking > for other map styles to render a osm2pgsql database with. > 2 quick ones... MapQuest Open: https://github.com/MapQuest/MapQuest-Mapnik-Style OpenPisteMap: http://subversion

Re: [OSM-talk] unable to download OSM data

2011-04-09 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 April 2011 04:11, S.Higashi wrote: > Communication time out has occured with > http://api.openstreetmao.org/api/0.6/ > both in JOSM and Potlatch2. > > But Potlatch1 seems OK. > > How about other people? > Working ok for me. (ignoring your typo in the url) / Grant _

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 10:57, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > Grant Slater writes: >> >> Not true. ODbL licensed data *can* be forked at any time without >> asking anyone for their blessing. >> >> I don't see how you come to the conclusion otherwise. The Licensing &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 March 2011 05:49, David Murn wrote: > > The problem is, any fork under the existing licence can continue without > problem.  Any fork under the new licence, cannot use any data unless the > user who contributed that data can/will give them 100% rights.  Those > against the ODbL can fork any

Re: [OSM-talk] Why isn't any XAPI server available ?

2011-02-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 February 2011 15:51, Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: > It seems there is no XAPI server available for a long time, what's going on ? > Is this service deprecated ? > I think XAPI is very usefull for quick extract using rules, it's a shame we > can't do this anymore... > This question also came u

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: collateral damage (was: What the license change is going to do to the map)

2011-02-10 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 February 2011 13:52, Maarten Deen wrote: > So, his edits were deleted by the OSM board? Why? > And if not only his edits were deleted, but all nodes and ways he touched > were deleted, why? Why not his edits reverted to the previous state? > Message from Mikel 2 days ago explaining: http://

Re: [OSM-talk] Creative Commons: Use CC for databases

2011-02-01 Thread Grant Slater
On 1 February 2011 20:39, Grant Slater wrote: > > Source: https://docs.google.com/a/firefishy.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_101d2sqnzfg > If that link doesn't work repeated here: http://www.osmfoundation.org/images/2/2e/20110118_LWG_Meeting_Minutes.pdf

Re: [OSM-talk] Creative Commons: Use CC for databases

2011-02-01 Thread Grant Slater
On 1 February 2011 20:31, Tobias Knerr wrote: > It is a very interesting statement, though. It is not, as you imply, a > reason for not agreeing to the Contributor Terms (these would still > allow us to go for CC 4.0 licenses), but I hope that the Foundation > keeps this development on the radar.

Re: [OSM-talk] xapi downage

2011-01-09 Thread Grant Slater
On 9 January 2011 18:58, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> >> XAPI currently uses 2 servers: >>  * xapi.org.org: Hardware provided and hosted by OSM sysadmin team. >> Sysadmin policy that the code needs to be open source. 80n remove the >> source code dump in December. > > So you're saying that the recen

Re: [OSM-talk] xapi downage

2011-01-09 Thread Grant Slater
On 9 January 2011 16:19, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Does anyone know when the xapi will be back online? It's been down for > several days at least. > 80n is the only person who coded / runs the current implemention of XAPI which is written in GT.M / MUMPS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS Others

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 7 January 2011 16:23, Toby Murray wrote: > What would be slick is if the blank tiles > could be automatically detected and then previous imagery overzoomed > instead of displaying the blank tiles. > Yes this was added yesterday to JOSM version #3774 or above. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/chan

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-06 Thread Grant Slater
On 6 January 2011 10:54, Dave F. wrote: > On 05/01/2011 07:39, Lester Caine wrote: >> >> Dave F. wrote: There's a lot of people on this list... >>> >>> Err... So? >> >> We would prefer less of the bad language. THAT is grounds for a simple >> ban! >> > Yes you're correct, I regret the la

Re: [OSM-talk] What was that website that showed recent edits?

2010-12-20 Thread Grant Slater
On 21 December 2010 02:32, Steve Bennett wrote: > Sorry for this dopey question. Quite a few months ago, someone posted > about a website (a UK mapping company from memory) that, amongst other > things, had some visualisations of recent edits to OSM: colour code by > user, or by time of edit, or b

Re: [OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-12-13 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 December 2010 15:40, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 15:24, Grant Slater > wrote: > >> Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. > > With announcements like these could you please send mail like this to > local-conta...@openstr

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-12-13 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. Tuesday 8:45am (14 December 2010 GMT/UTC+0) the API and editing on www.openstreetmap.org will be unavailable during hardware maintenance. The maintenance is expected to take 1 hour. Technical: Replacing a failed RAID Controller Battery. Rega

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 December 2010 10:58, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >> This is simply because we are at the voluntary phase of agreeing with >> the CT right now. If you wholeheartedly agree with the CT, then you >> can indicate your preference right now. >>

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-07 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 December 2010 00:50, John Smith wrote: > On 8 December 2010 10:37, Simon Ward wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:58:26PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: >>> ODbL is not a PD license, so you do not have to be afraid. >> >> The Contributor Terms effectively change the licence. > > Frederik seems

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New phrase in section 2

2010-12-03 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 December 2010 16:21, Anthony wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Richard Fairhurst > wrote: >> Rather, as Francis pointed out: "A mistake? Someone infelicitously drafting >> the licence? It does happen you know :-)." >> >> Or, as ever with OSM, never attribute to conspiracy that which

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

2010-11-26 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 November 2010 21:37, SteveC wrote: > On Nov 25, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Grant Slater wrote: > >> There have been many round of question, answers and many revisions. >> The LWG spends at around 25% of their time just keeping minutes. I'm a >> member of the LWG, w

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

2010-11-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 25 November 2010 23:17, john whelan wrote: > Thanks for the link.  It seems essentially to say no imports since we > reserve the right to change the license at any time in the future so you > can't make agreements with third parties and judging by the visuals we've > seen so far most of the map

[OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

2010-11-25 Thread Grant Slater
John, On 25 November 2010 20:15, john whelan wrote: > Just a comment from one of the 130 who has voted yes on the recommendation > of one of the people I thought was fairly sensible here and I now regret > taking his advice.  I now strongly suspect I should have spent six months > wading through

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] JOSM and spam

2010-11-24 Thread Grant Slater
On 24 November 2010 09:57, Erik Johansson wrote: > Hi > > It would be great if someone could convince the JOSM people to remove > the ODbL blurb in JOSM, people get scared and spam everyone who hasn't > agreed to the new license. > "OpenStreetMap is changing its license. This requires user affirm

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-24 Thread Grant Slater
On 24 November 2010 23:11, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Ed Avis wrote: >> >> Well, since there is a licence discussion anyway, how about it?  What >> would >> Microsoft and others like to see from OSM's licence?  It would be great to >> have >> some concrete preferences from the most important users. >

Re: [OSM-talk] API down?

2010-11-24 Thread Grant Slater
On 24 November 2010 20:51, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > Is the API down? I can't download anything in JOSM. No, API seem ok to me. Can you access http://www.osm.org/ ? / Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/l

Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect ofBing Mobile

2010-11-23 Thread Grant Slater
On 23 November 2010 17:41, Florian Heer wrote: > > This is very exciting news. But I could not find any way to make use of that > at the moment. So I guess this will be possible in the future as in opposed > to now? > Same answer for the Potlatch... http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1602/

Re: [OSM-talk] tile downloader

2010-10-21 Thread Grant Slater
On 21 October 2010 14:32, MP wrote: >> Maybe we could work around this by automatically changing the link for >> the stored tiles? This would also harm "friendly" projects with small >> tile-download-rates though. If it is technically possible to identify >> this application they could also be fil

Re: [OSM-talk] planet.openstreetmap.org down / replication broken?

2010-10-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 October 2010 13:14, Florian Lohoff wrote: >> Also note ICMP ping is blocked via our host. > > Huh ? Why ? Isnt a simple reachability check better be done with icmp echo > request? > > I mean icmp amplification attacks are not really an issue today with reverse > path > filtering ... Yip.

Re: [OSM-talk] planet.openstreetmap.org down / replication broken?

2010-10-14 Thread Grant Slater
On 14 October 2010 13:06, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > it seems the replication broke as planet.openstreetmap.org is unreachable. > > f...@bs6:~$ ping -c3 planet.openstreetmap.org > PING planet.openstreetmap.org (128.40.168.99) 56(84) bytes of data. Yes we are having problems with the machine today.

Re: [OSM-talk] Server down?

2010-10-06 Thread Grant Slater
Should be back now. / Grant On 10/6/10, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > It seems that at least one of the Mapnik tile servers is down, as is the > wiki. This also affects Bing's mirror (which is apparently not a mirror?). > But http://mapper.acme.com/ seems to use only c.tile.openstreetmap.org, > wh

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Tile Servers is very slow

2010-10-04 Thread Grant Slater
Talk, The OpenStreetMap map tile server (mapnik layer) will be very slow for the next 24 hours. [1] Edits to the map will only show up in a few days time for these tiles, but not to worry there are other "minutely" OSM tile providers available to view your edits. To name a few: - http://open.ma

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata & the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 September 2010 18:15, Anthony wrote: > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Grant Slater > wrote: >> Yes our legal council believes CT/ODbL is compatible. The lawyer did >> supply a breakdown and reasoning why he believes it is compatible. BUT >> the Contributor T

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata & the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 September 2010 16:49, Grant Slater wrote: > > Thanks 80n, but those are your words and views. > Where are you quoting these numbered responses from? > I see, minutes from the LWG meeting last night. 2 of 7 LWG members in attendance. I wasn't on the call as I had an in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata & the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 September 2010 15:33, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It might greatly reduce the volume on this list if that legal advice were >> published in full. > > It would also help if members of the LWG were a little more forthcoming in > their communications.  Here's what Grant was really trying

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 September 2010 11:26, Nic Roets wrote: > > Obviously there are many exceptions to your rule, like the TIGER import. > TIGER isn't a good example of a successful import. The TIGER import killed a fledgling community in the US, which is now only slowly recovering. TIGER has masses of data wi

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Thread Grant Slater
On 29 August 2010 02:05, David Murn wrote: > On Sat, 2010-08-28 at 23:44 +0100, Grant Slater wrote: > >> PLEASE... >> Follow ups on legal-talk list. Thread started here: >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-August/004221.html > > A, maybe t

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Thread Grant Slater
On 28 August 2010 15:37, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: > please see this as well, > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ODbL_comments_from_Creative_Commons > What is missing there is that Creative Commons have said that a CC-BY-SA license is not suitable for a database of factual informati

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-28 Thread Grant Slater
On 28 August 2010 23:01, wrote: > The presence of those first 2 pages, named as they are, is an anachronism. > The vote has been dropped, so don't expect to be asked to vote. > The last page title sums up the current approach of OSMF to the licence - > "We are changing the licence" > It was an

[OSM-talk] NOTICE: Scheduled Maintenance - Tuesday Morning

2010-08-20 Thread Grant Slater
OSM, Please copy this to local lists as appropriate. Tuesday 8:00am (24 August 2010 GMT/UTC+0) the API and editing on www.openstreetmap.org will be unavailable during a hardware upgrade. The upgrade is expected to take 1 hour 30mins. Regards Grant Part of the OSM Sysadmin Team __

Re: [OSM-talk] NearMap Community Licence and OSM Contributor Terms

2010-08-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 August 2010 12:18, Chris Browet wrote: > It might very well be true. > > I still think "a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, > free. > > Basically, the OSMF asks us to trust it because it doesn't trust us, right? No. The OSMF is protecting itself from being shut down by le

Re: [OSM-talk] I don't want companies stealing OSM data that I contribute!

2010-08-19 Thread Grant Slater
On 19 August 2010 11:07, Valent Turkovic wrote: > AFAIK with new Contributor Terms [1] all data entered into OSM can be > taken by some company, closed and they could create a product made profit > on it. > > Yes or no? Please just answer this for start. No, they have to make the data available.

Re: [OSM-talk] Replication stopped

2010-08-12 Thread Grant Slater
On 12 August 2010 17:29, Toby Murray wrote: > I was just trying to figure out why a lake I traced last night hadn't > been rendered yet. After double checking tagging, relationing, etc I > finally looked at munin[1] and noticed that yevaud stopped getting > diffs almost 10 hours ago. Also, looking

Re: [OSM-talk] The story of one ticket.

2010-08-10 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 August 2010 19:29, Aleksandr Dezhin wrote: > What am I doing wrong? I would understand any response: "We (DWG) do > not believe that here we need to do something" or "no compelling > evidence that this is a bad import", or something else. > For me the problem here is not how much Ikrutsk (no

Re: [OSM-talk] ssl for wiki.openstreetmap.org

2010-07-29 Thread Grant Slater
On 28 July 2010 12:24, colliar wrote: > I wonder why there is no ssl-support for the wiki. > It woudb be nice if I could enter my password and changes with an encrypted > connection and not just plain text. > I'll set it up in a few days. We already have a certificate. / Grant _

[OSM-talk] Help Moving Server Romania to London

2010-07-28 Thread Grant Slater
Talk & Talk-ro, talk-ro: could someone please translate this email. A generous OpenStreetMapper in Timisoara, Romania has offered to donate 2 unused Dell servers to OpenStreetMap. The servers are needed in London, England. The machines weigh around 35kg each. Using a shipping company seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset 5057715

2010-07-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 July 2010 19:56, Andrew wrote: > Changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5057715 added an > apostrophe to every name St Johns Street in the northern hemisphere. It seems > to > me that this was a very unselective edit and conversation with the editor > leaves > me unconvinc

Re: [OSM-talk] planet-100714 issue?

2010-07-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 July 2010 14:33, Nakor wrote: > > It looks like there is no planet file for this week. Was there an export > issue? > Yes no planet file this week yet. The usual planet dump was stopped when we added additional storage yesterday. I've restarted the dump. ETA Sunday. Regards Grant __

Re: [OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

2010-07-13 Thread Grant Slater
On 13 July 2010 20:08, Peter Herison wrote: > > Maybe it's something with my provider (Alice/HanseNet)?! > Alice.de does something very weird to DNS. I very occasionally get random reports of users reaching my personal website instead of OpenStreetMap.org (osm has never been pointed at my person

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using OSM on TV

2010-07-10 Thread Grant Slater
On 10 July 2010 16:33, wrote: > So, what's required? > > As I stated in my original post, there is confusion (at least on my > part) as to my obligation. Some examples state attributing OSM in the > acknowledgments section of my application is sufficient. Other examples > on the OSM license

Re: [OSM-talk] That license change link

2010-07-08 Thread Grant Slater
There is an outstanding task on me to setup links from the osmf site (and wiki banner) to the osm wiki to allow translations of those documents. Feel free to jump ahead and translate, I will link things up as soon as I get a chance. / Grant On 7/7/10, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Mike Collinson wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Grant Slater
On 3 July 2010 12:32, maning sambale wrote: > Is it back now?  I was able to edit a few minutes ago. > Yes we are back. There are a few minor issues we are working on resolving. Replication diffs are not yet working. This effects things like tile.openstreetmap.org and some 3rd party services fro

[OSM-talk] OSM is back after maintenance

2010-07-03 Thread Grant Slater
Talk, OpenStreetMap is now back after the planned maintenance. Happy mapping. / Grant Part of OpenStreetMap sysadmin team. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] wiki down ?

2010-06-28 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Guys, All fixed now. Squid fell over during a backup when disk space became tight. It acts as cache for wiki and some of the mapnik tiles. / Grant On 29 June 2010 05:50, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > colliar wrote: >>I can not get onto any wiki page. >>Any problems ? > > It's down, and there als

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
On 26 June 2010 07:12, David Murn wrote: > > Having just bought a new hard-drive, I found 400gb almost unavailable, > most disks these days seem to start at 1tb and go up. > These are 'Server' SCSI (Serial Attached SCSI) disks. They are still available. The highest available size is 600GB. We ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
rdy -> Lucid upgrade, but this is still to be finalised. Regards Grant On 26 June 2010 02:40, Martin Fossdal Guttesen wrote: > hey for us tech/map junkies, can you give some info about what the upgrade > is about > from hardware to hardware > > -Original Message----- From: Grant Sl

[OSM-talk] Upcoming OSM Server Maintenance

2010-06-25 Thread Grant Slater
OpenStreetMap, Please translate and copy to local lists. On the 2nd (Friday) and 3rd (Saturday) of July 2010 the sysadmin team will be upgrading the database server's storage. Editing will not be available during this period. Initial plan, subject to revision: 1st July 21:00 (GMT) - API and we

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed to download 9.5 GB planet

2010-06-22 Thread Grant Slater
2010/6/22 Dirk-Lüder Kreie : > Am 21.06.2010 18:12, schrieb Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio: >> >> 16:23:53 (1.02 MB/s) - Connection closed at byte 1621101924. Retrying. >> >> --16:23:53--   >> http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/openstreetmap.org/planet-100618.osm.bz2 >>   (try: 2) => `planet_100618.osm.bz2'

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet.osm

2010-06-18 Thread Grant Slater
On 18 June 2010 08:54, Peter Körner wrote: >> does anybody know why there is no planet.osm from this week, .i.e. >> there is no file planet-20100616.osm.bz2 at >> http://planet.openstreetmap.org/ > > It may be because the database downtime around Wednesday. > Yes there was a brief outage on Wedn

Re: [OSM-talk] WolframAlpha uses OpenStreetMap data

2010-06-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 June 2010 23:09, Tim McNamara wrote: > Sorry if I've neglected to look into this issue in more detail. May I ask, > which community consensus are you referring to? OSM or CC? My understanding > was the intention behind a share-alike clause is to compel people using the > work to release the

[OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org up

2010-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
OSM Talk, Website and API is now up and running again after earlier issues. Happy mapping. Thanks Grant OSM Sysadmin Team ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org down

2010-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2010 12:52, Shalabh wrote: > > Wont need that, its back up. :) > Not yet. We are currently looking at 10pm GMT tonight. Regards Grant ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org down

2010-06-15 Thread Grant Slater
On 15 June 2010 08:56, Tom Hughes wrote: >> >> The tweet says couple of hours and that was 5 hours ago. Anyone knows >> how much longer will it take? > > We had to wait for Adaptec to start work - Grant is holding on the phone > to their support people right now. > Adaptec support are to be comme

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