Re: [Talk-GB] Changeset #36985172 revert request - Deal area, Kent

2016-02-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2016-02-05 at 07:54 +, Gregory Williams wrote: > The JOSM reverter doesn't seem to be working at the moment, so I've > used Frederick Ramm's perl reverter script [1] to perform the revert. > A few relations seem to have been edited since (presumably the > coastline). I've taken a

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools project - update 3

2016-01-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2016-01-27 at 18:35 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > >> 1. Open Data Manchester > >> Following a tweet Open Data Manchester have asked whether anyone > can > >> go and show them how to map. Looks like their next meeting is > Monday > >> February 1st, 6.30 – 8.30pm. Any volunteers? > >>  >

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools project - update 3

2016-01-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 19:38 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > A third update on the quarterly project. > > 0. The what project? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Quarterly_Projects > > 1. Open Data Manchester > Following a tweet Open Data Manchester have asked whether anyone can > go and show

Re: [Talk-GB] Schools Progress Tracker Update

2016-01-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 17:53 +, Brian Prangle wrote: > DY almost complete so you need to pick another area. TF needs some > attention rgds Brian I have done some work on rural TF, hopefully it has moved off the bottom of the league table. I am avoiding the urban area for now as a I back at The

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-21 Thread Philip Barnes
Still having problems, now a search on Starbucks is returning ones in Thailand. Can these tags be removed too? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Jolla ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing Starbucks Wikipedia Tags (Was Nominatim Weakness)

2016-01-21 Thread Philip Barnes
Thank you Clifford. On Thu Jan 21 15:12:55 2016 GMT, Clifford Snow wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> wrote: > > > Still having problems, now a search on Starbucks is returning ones in > > Thailand. Can these tags be rem

Re: [Talk-GB] Requested reversions

2016-01-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 11:33 +, Kevin Flynn wrote: > I would be very much obliged if someone who knows how could revert > all of the changes I made in error in change sets 36653552 and > 36653790. (The earlier version had errors, but in attempting to > correct them using faulty data I made

Re: [OSRM-talk] MPH on OSRM?

2016-01-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-12-30 at 13:28 -0500, Jack Burke wrote: > Out of curiosity, are there any plans to bring mph back to the OSRM > web interface?  MPH used to be an option until the last major > revision of the website > The lack of a miles option is a serious omission, especially as it used to be

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

2015-12-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-12-05 at 00:54 +, Dave F. wrote: > Hi > > I know this has been discussed before , but recent edits by user: > abc26324 prompts me to ask/verify again the point of road relations > in the UK. Example: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/103301#map=10/51.2112/-2.5578 > >

Re: [Talk-GB] route relations type=road

2015-12-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-12-07 at 05:53 -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > These route relations are pointless armchairing and make the map > harder to > edit for newbies to no benefit. If the user doesn't respond to > changeset > comments I would agree with deleting them. > I agree Richard The relations

Re: [Talk-GB] Secondary, tertiary and unclassified

2015-11-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed Nov 4 13:17:53 2015 GMT, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 04/11/15 12:54, James Tait wrote: > > > If I were to follow the guidelines in that changeset, Uttoxeter Road > > (B5020) would be a tertiary road, and Etwall Road would be > > unclassified. I don't know which roads are maintained by the

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

2015-11-03 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Nov 3 12:17:21 2015 GMT, Dave F. wrote > > 2. Road widths > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS4l8ZKWUAA-566.jpg > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS4tfRDWUAA6AkN.png > > As can be seen, there's a problem with the new increased widths. At > interchanges individually mapped lanes are overlapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

2015-11-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-11-02 at 22:53 +0600, Nasir Khan wrote: > Hi, > > I am a big fan of Open Street Map. I used this for may of my web > application projects. > > One thing i faced every time and asked from many that, is there a way > to improve the icon set to make the map more attractive. I really

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon Nov 2 09:13:39 2015 GMT, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Am 01.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Colin Smale : > > > > Is a pharmacy not the same as shop=chemist with dispensing=yes? > > > isn't a chemist the same as a drug store? Around here

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-10-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri Oct 30 22:01:04 2015 GMT, Warin wrote: > On 31/10/2015 8:10 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen > > wrote: > >>- shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy) > > This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity statistics per city (or region)

2015-10-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Oct 27 10:05:04 2015 GMT, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > Þann 27.10.2015 07:09, Paul Norman reit: > > On 10/26/2015 8:24 AM, Fabian Schmidt wrote: > >> It is rare but there are users who renamed their account, so there are > >> more user names than numeric user ids. > > > > No. Although

Re: [Talk-GB] User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction "

2015-10-22 Thread Philip Barnes
I had been meaning to express my concerns over dataOne with the list, although as I added a new changeset comment yesterday and pm'd him about one from last week which he has not responded to, I was waiting for one more edit that so far hasn't happened. My concern has been over a very large

Re: [Talk-GB] temporary food markets

2015-10-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Oct 22 15:42:48 2015 GMT+0100, Jez Nicholson wrote: > A highlight of the Brighton Tech scene is the Friday Street Diner food > market > http://vergemagazine.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/street-diner.jpg > > Any tips on how I should tag it in OSM? > > It is only open on Friday. I don't

Re: [Talk-GB] User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction "

2015-10-05 Thread Philip Barnes
Message either SomeoneElse or zool in #talk-gb. Phil (trigpoint) On Mon Oct 5 12:31:09 2015 GMT+0100, Dave F. wrote: > Dataone is at it again. He's not replied to my post. > > As each edit is an individual changeset & therefore laborious to revert, > I think a temporary stop should be placed

Re: [Talk-GB] User dataone: "splitting into 2 way to tag restriction "

2015-10-02 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri Oct 2 14:47:05 2015 GMT+0100, Dave F. wrote: > Hi > > A new editor has started splitting roads in my locale, but from what I > can see making no tagging amendments. Am I missing something? If not I'd > like to halt him before there's too much damage. > >

[Talk-GB] BBC4 tonight 9 pm - A Very British Map: the Ordnance Survey Story

2015-09-09 Thread Philip Barnes
Spotted this on the Rambler-Net list. In case you hadn't already spotted this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06b36q3 See also: http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/blog/2015/09/watch-os-on-bbc4-in-a-very -british-map-the-ordnance-survey-story/ Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [Talk-GB] Rail maxspeeds being converted

2015-09-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-09-05 at 11:47 +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > > All the ones I've seen in Notts and Derbys still are. I can't > comment > on further afield, although I do vaguely remember seeing something on > the news a couple of months ago saying that the train management > system > on the ECML

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 21:39 +0900, Max wrote: On 2015년 08월 22일 19:23, Lester Caine wrote: The main problem here is that OSM is used by a large part of the UK web services, and any change needs to be managed in such a manor that those services are not too badly affected. We do not have a

Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-08-22 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 13:23 +0100, SK53 wrote: I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair. Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] New road style for Default Map style - pull requested is opened

2015-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 10:22 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 12/08/15 23:18, Andrew Hain wrote: We have a great opportunity for a spot of promotion. Publish a post on our blog announcing the new style and explaining the reasoning behind it. Don’t forget to remind people that there’s a wide

Re: [Talk-GB] Thrapston viaduct

2015-07-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-07-13 at 10:25 +0100, SK53 wrote: Bridges and other significant remaining infrastructure of railways tagged as railway=abandoned ceased to be rendered on the Standard rendering some time ago. There was a degree of dissension with this decision:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] July Meeting

2015-07-01 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 09:09 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone This month's meeting will be on Saturday 4th July, so we can do some serious mapping in Telford. Current suggested venue for lunch is The Cock at Wellington. Oakengates was our original area for mapping but 4th July is

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing Applications

2015-06-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-06-17 at 09:00 +, Janko Mihelić wrote: If you ask me, they are all in their infancy. Non of these routing services even route right. In a turn restriction the via role can be a way. Neither OSRM, ORS or GraphHopper knows how to restrict that, and that's IMHO one of the crucial

Re: [Talk-GB] Quick tagging question

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-06-08 at 09:18 +, Wittle, Paul wrote: Hi, It is interesting that people often say UK counties are defunct because the post office no longer use them; you could argue that postal addressing was not really the purpose of counties in the first place. The point of counties

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Facebook Page

2015-06-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 13:14 +0100, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi All After our discussion at the Digby Pub there's now a mappa mercia facebook page. I'm new to this so I have no idea if I've published it. I can't give you a web address because it needs 25 likes before we get that privilege!

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Etrex Legend hcx - still the best in price range

2015-06-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 21:51 +0100, Iain Simpson wrote: Hi everyone My trusty Legend hcx has just stopped working - Rubber protection band loose and sticky (usual etrex problem) and not powering up. I'm contacting Garmin for repair - they've been good in the past ! But if I need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue

2015-05-31 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 07:56 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: I've seen this topic being discussed here or elsewhere in the past. I thought that the consensus was that in some area's (a Spanish town I believe), it was ok to leave the oneway=no. The reasoning was that most streets in that town were

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 11:05 +0100, SomeoneElse wrote: On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good approximation of home in this case is name=Köln. Actually, I found a street sign (150 km away from Köln) that reads

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanical name edit? (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 20:55 +1000, Warin wrote: On 30/05/2015 8:41 PM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Hi, On 05/30/2015 09:48 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: Thank you for informing the community. Do you actually have substantial evidence of a mechanical edit or something similar? There are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2015-05-30 at 20:17 +1000, Warin wrote: On 30/05/2015 6:00 PM, Johan C wrote: The values used in the destination tag (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination) should always display the exact name as it is shown on the signpost I guess it adds verification that the

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:14 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: And as it happens, Абергавенни comes from Abergavenny rather than Y Fenni, showing that some discernment was applied. Not sure I understand that statement, transliterating Y Fenni is equally valid in my view. Phil (trigpoint)

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-05-29 at 13:58 +0200, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: What's wrong with name ? What's the UK policy on the content of name for places with Welsh and English names ? If you want to see Welsh names as often as possible but still make the local name more prominent, use local name (welsh

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-05-28 at 22:20 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes, I've thought about that; name:en is very useful for me but ultimately, if the locals don't use it, then it isn't on the ground, and then it shouldn't be in OSM really. Absolutely agree, there is a tendency to have name for places

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update

2015-05-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 22:47 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: On 2015-05-06 21:09, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 19:47 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown

Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project All things delivery-related - an update

2015-05-06 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-05-06 at 19:47 +0100, Rob Nickerson wrote: That's interesting. Have just tried the app out. It gives you the postboxes in OpenStreetMap but not the ones that are missing (as shown by blue markers on Robert's comparison tool: http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ Looks

Re: [Talk-GB] What was the outcome of the discussion about C class roads with ref tags?

2015-05-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-05-04 at 08:35 +0100, Graham Jones wrote: I don't know where the discussion got to, but thought I should point out that at least one road in North Yorkshire is a C road that is signposted as such. The road here does have signs with the C designation.

Re: [Talk-GB] GB postcodes

2015-03-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2015-03-26 at 10:20 +, Stuart Reynolds wrote: We certainly use postcodes for routing within traveline - they are unambiguous. Indeed, I was considering a task only yesterday to use postcode polygons as a means of assigning postcodes to bus stops. Collection times are

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tag for lay by

2015-02-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 13:33 +, Karl Newsletters wrote: Could I also suggest highway=rest_area http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area if the area is meant to be used as a lay-by (e.g where you could pull in for a longer stop) If it is a bigger loop, i.e. they have

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue Feb 17 10:15:26 2015 GMT, StephaneP wrote: Thanks for this useful feature ! I have one request : A reverse start/destination button. Is there a way to add a via, in osrm it is drag the route, but can't do it here. Phil (trigpoint ) -- Sent from my Jolla

Re: [Talk-GB] Road Names Quarterly Project

2015-02-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon Feb 16 23:35:41 2015 GMT, Pmailkeey . wrote: On 16 February 2015 at 15:51, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: In these cases you should check the name on the signs and if osm is wrong correct it. I my experience osm is often right and os opendata is incorrect

Re: [Talk-GB] Road Names Quarterly Project

2015-02-16 Thread Philip Barnes
What does resolve mean with respect to these notes? I could obviously re-map where new housing developments have been built - but is the idea to also put additional text into the note to say what you have done and whether you think the issue is all resolved? In these cases you should

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 18:14 +, Dave Corley wrote: As I see it there are 3 options here 1. Do an import, but its not accurate enough for an import - 500 POI's will never be fully vetted. 2. Add a note so that someone can map it either from imagery or a ground survey - 500

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: The locations I field checked were all findable, but had positioning errors consistent with smartphone GPS units, up to 30 meters. In each case I was able to find the station in a field check, then manually rectify the exact location.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Tagging in Wikidata

2014-12-30 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 02:06 +0100, Kolossos wrote: I would like to keep it as simple as possible and I don't want to replace the OSM-Wiki where all usefull combinations of tags are described. You would not only destroy the URL to the OSM-Wiki you would also damage the format checking tools

Re: [Talk-GB] Post-Christmas Midlands OSM Meet-up

2014-12-29 Thread Philip Barnes
I will be there and will be travelling from the Shrewsbury area, through Stoke and Uttoxeter, so again if you need a lift then let me know. Phil (trigpoint) On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 16:54 +, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, I've finally found some time to catch up with this thread. :-)

Re: [Talk-GB] Totesport

2014-12-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 14:39 +, David Woolley wrote: On 21/12/14 13:56, SK53 wrote: There are still one or two unharmonised tags for bookmakers: I moved a few amenity=bookmaker to shop=bookmaker the other day. At least one was one I created I'm pretty sure it was because I copied the

Re: [Talk-GB] Google Maps: the city of Avon

2014-12-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun Dec 07 2014 12:51:32 GMT+ (GMT), Malcolm Herring wrote: On 07/12/2014 12:39, Malcolm Herring wrote: It also appears on Yahoo maps and Apple maps, in both cases as small place only visible at high zooms. ... and on our map! http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/413600880 Its on

Re: [Talk-GB] Great British Public Toilet Map

2014-11-20 Thread Philip Barnes
--- Original message --- On Thu Nov 20 2014 11:39:36 GMT+ (GMT), Ben Pollinger wrote: Hello all, The Great British Public Toilet Map [was launched yesterday] providing details of over 8,000 public toilets in the UK including council facilities, train stations, community toilet

Re: [Talk-GB] Great British Public Toilet Map

2014-11-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu Nov 20 2014 15:22:52 GMT+ (GMT), Harry Harrold wrote: Hi Phil, Thanks for taking the trouble to have a look round! http://greatbritishpublictoiletmap.rca.ac.uk/ Looking at the map locally I can see that access tags have been omitted, those in Shrewsbury railway station

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-05 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 08:32 +, Stuart Reynolds wrote: I have to say that this is all getting rather intense. We are talking about one chain of shops! And clearly we aren't going to get an agreement on standardisation. We aren't, and to be honest the data consumer can post process whether

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 23:35 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 2 November 2014 16:11, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 13:24:46 + Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: - 'Brantano Footwear' versus Brantano Whilst company names do not necessarily

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC-2 mechanical edit: UK shop names

2014-11-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 17:29 +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 4 November 2014 12:55, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: ALDI, LIDL, ASDA and SPAR are all abbreviations of their full names, in the same way as NATO, AIDS, BBC, OSM or GNU are. Whether Spar is an abbreviation

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 12:26 +0100, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 23 October 2014 12:19, SK53 sk53@gmail.com wrote: The geojson can be converted into a shp file and read into PL2 or JOSM. Most useful is to use this to generate a task list in JOSM and step through them (I've done this to

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC Mechanical edit: shop=betting to shop=bookmaker for selected names

2014-10-23 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 12:57 +0100, Dave F. wrote: On 23/10/2014 12:06, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 23 Oct 2014 11:53, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Would it be worth adding a fixme tag to the unnamed shops that explains '= betting' is discouraged to add a proprietor's name

Re: [Talk-GB] LEZ get this completed?

2014-10-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 09:17 +0100, Antje (OpenStreetMap) wrote: I live in London, so I could figure out a small part of the boundary based on the fact that it doesn’t go outside London for obvious reasons, and on the basis of a number of past surveys and personal memory (which I call

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-08-21 at 19:20 +0100, Dave F. wrote: Hi http://ra.osmsurround.org/analyzeRelation?relationId=18159_noCache=on This route relation appears to be just for the B3070. Isn't that a waste of time as it's covered by the ref tags on the ways? I thought route relations were a way

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-18 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 14:14 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: Speed limits that are an odd multiple of 5 are common in the USA. For example, the most common speed limit on motorways within cities is 55 mph. 15 mph is a common speed limit near schools at the times of day when children are

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 02:22 +0200, Andreas Vilén wrote: The user in question now told me he's been using the Wisepilot app: http://www.appello.com/apps/wisepilot/ and seemed totally oblivious to it being a mystery, and that it creates strange and unhelpful notes in most cases. I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-17 Thread Philip Barnes
Then there are what I expect are temporary limits for some reason being reported. Such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/219321#c438501 The permanent limit here is correctly posted as 70 mph. Phil (trigpoint) ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 07:37 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/08/14 01:22, Robert Norris wrote: However I am in favour of this edit, but I think the edit needs to *only* change 'C' Roads, as some B roads are tagged tertiary. Ditto. But it's a bit like the 'name' problem where a few roads

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 09:51 +0100, Matt Williams wrote: On 13 August 2014 01:22, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote: AFAIK there are some (but very few) roads where the C number is sign posted but not that I'm aware of any explicitly. Whether any of these have ever been captured

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 01:22 +0100, Robert Norris wrote: Ignoring the source information for now, but I suspect it is very similar to rights of way information in that it is probably derived from OS maps. The following overpass query highlights the issue, Norfolk standing out as

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 12:01 +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2014, Lester Caine wrote: On 13/08/14 10:02, Derick Rethans wrote: It's not only C roads. When looking at Nairn (because of a reported storm damage to a road) I noticed lots of U-references. Have a look at:

Re: [Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Barnes
I have carried out a first changeset, can anyone spot anything wrong before I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24727341#map=8/52.507/-3.796 Thanks Phil (trigpoint) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-GB] C roads again

2014-08-12 Thread Philip Barnes
We have discussed this subject a couple of times and have, I think, concluded that displaying the ref (generally only known to local government people) on roads that are unsigned is not helpful to the end user. Some, but I suspect not all, of the thread starts are below.

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 12:38 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Have there been cases where at the time the note was created the speed limit in osm was actually correct? Yes, this one which I closed yesterday, http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/214534 Only to now spot this one appearing.

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 09:54 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: On 10/08/14 21:16, Norbert Wenzel wrote: Since these notes are automatically generated there's no on you could ask for clarifications, which is needed for all issues. And that has been tried. The quality of these reports has already

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing common possible Tagging Mistakes

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 14:00 +0200, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote: Le 11/08/2014 11:52, Pieren a écrit : On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Also feel free to add the code to other pages or remove/discuss it if you think it doesn't fit somewhere.

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 06:55 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: Can I apply this reasoning to English names for Belgian towns as well ? Where can I verify that the English name for Antwerpen is Antwerp ? What is the source of this data? Under which license was that made available ? How can someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-08-10 at 15:13 +0100, John Sturdy wrote: I wonder whether these incorrect speed limit notes might not be reporting that the speed limit on the map isn't what it is on the road, but someone objecting to what the speed limit on the road is, and making a token protest about it?

Re: [Talk-GB] Courier Delivery Points

2014-08-07 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 11:39 +0100, Matt Williams wrote: On 6 August 2014 19:52, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Ive been out and about and doing some web research on secure parcel delivery/collection lockers. The Packstation system in Germany only applies to Germany and is a

Re: [Talk-GB] City names translation

2014-08-04 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-08-04 at 16:51 +0100, John Sturdy wrote: I hadn't known (or remembered) that recommendation from the wiki; but still, the Ukrainian spelling (resulting in a Ukrainian reader understanding it as a reasonable phonetic imitation of the English name) may often be very far from a

Re: [Talk-GB] Getting Highway Agency information into OSM

2014-07-05 Thread Philip Barnes
I am not convinced proposed highways are especially useful in OSM, until construction starts they are just ideas and break the map what we see rule. Proposed highways should certainly not render, for example I drove through Uttoxeter with osmand running and the proposed highways make the map

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-06-26 at 13:52 +0200, malenki wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:00:32 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: Abandoned railways are also potential footpaths, cycleways, again not showing them makes locating potential useful rights of way claims more difficult. I'd assume that mappers

Re: [Talk-us] exit_to vs destination

2014-06-26 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 16:04 -0700, stevea wrote: Martin van Exel writes: Following the examples on the wiki, I think it should be fine to tag destination=Holt Rd on the motorway_link in this case: http://www.aaroads.com/midwest/indiana070/i-070_eb_exit_077_04.jpg - for example. Or am I

Re: [OSM-talk] Come back Osmarender, all is forgiven!

2014-06-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 23:14 -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: The only complaints I see about the standard map are the ones coming from railfans who want to see the abandoned railroads put back. Can we not admit to error? Y'all should try it -- it puts hair on your chest and makes your boobs bigger

Re: [OSRM-talk] Non-routing places

2014-06-18 Thread Philip Barnes
John I have had issues navigating to places where the place node is in a large pedestrian area and the closet ways are not routable, I have found moving the place node somewhere more sensible fixes the problem. Do you have some examples we can look at? Cheers Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my

Re: [OSM-talk] undiscussed (?) mechanical edit on diet:vegan and diet:vegetarian

2014-05-20 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2014-05-20 at 13:25 -0300, John Packer wrote: For a more complete picture: This user (BuganiniQ) first added diet:vegetarian=yes and diet:vegan=yes to places with cuisine=vegan, and diet:vegetarian=yes to places with cuisine=vegetarian. It does not seem too much of a stretch to do

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] boules=petanque vs. type=petanque

2014-05-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 11:00 +0200, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Well... Private messages tell me that boules might be popular outside of France, so here is a translation for a more international debate... According to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dboules a petanque pitch

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with May 2014 OS Locator data

2014-05-15 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 09:46 +0200, Marc Gemis wrote: Left and right is decided by the direction of the osm-way. Not by east/west/north/south. BTW, in Brussels we have streets with 4 official names : left/right, French/Dutch :-) Rather than left/right should we not be using

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Tagging natural or informal swimming holes?

2014-04-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-04-24 at 23:03 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: How best should I tag informal swimming areas? These typically have no lifeguard or facilities. An example deep-content site for these types of holes is: http://www.iforgotthename.com/ In OSM is it best to create an area and tag

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Summer Tour

2014-04-04 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Brian I have not managed to get to the pub I mentioned in Wellington, but after some thought the area I believe really needs a mapping blitz is Oakengates, http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/52.69476/-2.45138 This is a town centre that has received very little attention. A quick glance in

Re: [Talk-GB] Not all Notes are Equal

2014-03-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Hi Brian It sounds a good idea, it would be useful to be able to filter notes by age too. When notes are added, a message does appear in the gb irc channel, where they can be looked at by somebody, but the fading sounds a nice idea. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/03/2014

Re: [OSRM-talk] Huge difference in needed time computation OSRM / Google Maps

2014-03-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 19:42 +0100, Rudolf Mayer wrote: On 2014-03-24 18:50, Philip Barnes wrote: The lack of speed limits on the rural secondary roads will almost certainly be having an effect here. I am not sure about OSRM, but shouldn't there be something built in during processing

Re: [OSM-talk] Hate captchas!!!!

2014-03-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2014-03-21 at 14:22 +0100, Richard Z. wrote: On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 07:17:26AM +0100, Stefan Keller wrote: Hi Richard, hi Simon At 2014-03-14 16:19 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole wrote At 14.03.2014 16:06, schrieb Richard Z.: is there really no way to avoid those horrible captchas

Re: [Talk-GB] Document Freedom Award Saturday 22nd March

2014-03-21 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-03-20 at 19:37 +, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone As if coming to Birmingham for an OSM event wasn't enough to tempt you here; we have the Flat Pack Film Festivval on at the moment: details of Saturday's calendar of events here

Re: [Talk-GB] Problems with armchair edits of major road junctions in England

2014-03-19 Thread Philip Barnes
The number of edits suggests to me that they are not inexperienced. Is it possible to get some sort of block until they start responding to emails? Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 19/03/2014 10:21 SomeoneElse wrote: On 18/03/2014 07:13, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian wrote:

Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 13:35 -0400, Colin McGregor wrote: On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Adam Martin s.adam.mar...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, Quick question regarding tagging buildings. I've come across several that are owned and maintained by

Re: [Talk-ca] Telecommunications Buildings

2014-03-10 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2014-03-10 at 13:48 -0400, Harald Kliems wrote: Since this phenomenon is not specific to Canada (see for example http://www.messynessychic.com/2013/01/29/the-fake-townhouses-hiding-mystery-underground-portals/ ) it might be a good idea to ask on the general tagging list. I quickly

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-27 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thu, 2014-02-27 at 10:28 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: Part of the border of Davidson County in Tennessee, USA runs down the centerline of a road. The village of Llanymynech straddles the England (Shropshire)/Wales (Powis) border, the border runs up the middle of the main street (A483)

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Inthe UK the boundaries were there long before road maintenance was thought of. A couple of real life examples http://osm.org/go/eu5Dsjb0--?layers =N The border between Leicestershire and Warwickshire has been split to either side of Watling Street to solve the problem of maintenance. The

[Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
I have come across, and corrected a number of mis-tagged UK towns and cities, which had clearly been mis-tagged to suit the renderer. City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
10:13 Andy Allan wrote: On 25 February 2014 09:47, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: City status is an honour granted by The Queen, not something that can be claimed by size or population. Like trunk roads, its quirky and like trunk roads I see it as the way we do things here

Re: [Talk-GB] Town v City

2014-02-25 Thread Philip Barnes
That is absolutely my point, we should tag the facts and leave it to different renderers to then use those facts in the way that best suits their users. We should not deliberately mis-tag to make Milton Keynes bigger than St Albans on mapnick, mapnick is just one of many renderers, a fact often

Re: [OSM-talk] Street cabinets

2014-02-09 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 11:42 -0700, Murry McEntire wrote: Street cabinet has no meaning in my region. Looking at manufacturer's sites and google images, I do see the term in use in Britain (and some other places) for above ground enclosures with vertical hinged doors. Did you also mean to

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