Re: [OSM-talk] openmaps.org

2009-06-16 Thread Russ Nelson
is to claim that you don't have a trademark on it. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] putting GPS units in taxis

2009-06-15 Thread Russ Nelson
and number information. But it does tell us several other things: routability and speed. Here in the US, we have the tiger data, which is 90% correct. Trouble is that we don't know WHICH 90% is the correct 90%. GPS tracks will tell us a lot. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - key=Cycleworth

2009-06-13 Thread Russ Nelson
, but you are right to bound it at plus or minus three. I assume that you mean the default for an ordinary residential road to be zero? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

[OSM-talk] Open*Map.* ?

2009-06-08 Thread Russ Nelson
into the pattern: http://OpenTopoMap.org - http://toposm.com -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Aerial photography, cock fighting and vodka bottles

2009-06-07 Thread Russ Nelson
; Terraservice Urban http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1request=GetMapLayers=urbanareaStyles=SRS=EPSG:4326format=image/jpeg; -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Statues and Public Art

2009-06-06 Thread Russ Nelson
, and blue. Personally, I would have chosen orange green and white, but that's just me. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] signup notice

2009-06-01 Thread Russ Nelson
, the judge would laugh the OSMF out of court, IF he didn't fine the OSMF for contempt of court. In order for a contract to be enforceable it must be a reasonable contract. On Jun 1, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Francis Davey wrote: 2009/6/1 Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com: Note the (non-exclusively

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses and Tiger

2009-05-30 Thread Russ Nelson
if something is moved. Also the spacing needed is render dependent. Is there an alternative to the Karlsruhe scheme? IMHO, the address ways should pass directly in front of people's front doors, so if a render gets that wrong, it's it's own fault. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com

Re: [OSM-talk] LV region border import

2009-05-29 Thread Russ Nelson
them once, and should reuse them for different ways. P.S. Who should I contact to ask to create talk-lv mailing list? Better to talk about things here in English. We can help you and you can help us. P.S.S. Sorry for my engish :D Ha! It's better than my Lativan! -- Russ Nelson - http

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses and Tiger

2009-05-29 Thread Russ Nelson
. I have a question about 999 Elm St. NW and 882 Main St, NW. Why do their addressing ways cross? And why aren't they parallel to the roads they describe? Other than those two quibbles, I'm lovin' it! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] County borders auto-fixup?

2009-05-28 Thread Russ Nelson
on them? I can think of examples where that might not be perfect. But I'd be happier if the data was much less imperfect. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] 2010 Census and Tiger

2009-05-27 Thread Russ Nelson
. For $6000 each, they had BETTER have a GPS in them! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL, choice of law, and porting (and why ODC won't have a porting process)

2009-05-26 Thread Russ Nelson
know if the licenses were ported or translated (following your use of those two terms), but the goal was to have licenses which may be read and trusted to be legally accurate no matter where you are in the EU. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Addresses and Tiger

2009-05-26 Thread Russ Nelson
interpolation does seem complex. But when I look at OSM areas mapped using it, and also recall problems I've encountered with geocoding, I think the Karlsruhe -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter

Re: [OSM-talk] Re verting Changes....

2009-05-19 Thread Russ Nelson
him and wait -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Free GPS data logger for developing countries?

2009-05-18 Thread Russ Nelson
? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Re verting Changes....

2009-05-18 Thread Russ Nelson
. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-17 Thread Russ Nelson
one price, and another buyer another price. It's *quite* possible that there is an unadvertised price for non-profits. OpenStreetMap is a non-profit. Don't assume that they're going to charge you the same price as a profit-making entity. Ask. Always ask. -- Russ Nelson - http

[OSM-talk] Upcoming NorthEast US mapping parties

2009-05-16 Thread Russ Nelson
-14) Pittsurgh o 6/20-21 Washington DC -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Yahoo has very bad resolution images of Croatia, why?

2009-05-16 Thread Russ Nelson
(us). -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Import Support Working Group

2009-05-14 Thread Russ Nelson
programmers. We're used to not sleeping, right? o And in a similar vein, except for China, English is the language of computer programmers. o Phone calls are a very effective way to keep a group in synch and on time. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-05-12 Thread Russ Nelson
about when a node, way, or relation is done are necessarily going to be different. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/2369 Great minds think alike ... and then there's me. :) -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

Re: [OSM-talk] shapefile to osm api 0.6

2009-05-11 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 10, 2009, at 2:01 AM, maning sambale wrote: Is there one already? I think polyshp2osm will still work fine for api 0.6. It just writes osm files which create new nodes. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-07 Thread Russ Nelson
, at 3:25 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote: any legal process against OpenStreetMap would put the entire project at risk. No, not innocent infringement for reasons I've explained earlier. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of Chicago Bicycle data.

2009-05-07 Thread Russ Nelson
Department of Transportation Bicycle Parking Assistant http://www.chicagobikes.org ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
). It doesn't protect contributions to creativity. Think of the lawsuits if it did! Why, I'm contributing to your OSM efforts by clarifying copyright for you, so I would have a copyright interest in your OSM edits if your theory was correct. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 6, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: What work or creativity did Google do towards the existence of that particular point? Google's imagery suppliers collected and rectified the imagery. For over a hundred years, English courts have held

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 6, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Russ Nelson wrote: On May 6, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Openstreetmap is about gathering map data and sharing it. Some people seem desperate to import data from anywhere. GATHER IT YOURSELF. The problem is that people say Why should I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 6, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 6 de Mayo de 2009, Russ Nelson escribió: The problem is that people say Why should I have to repeat this work? It's already been done. Why can't we just import it? Why should I have to repeat this work? It's already

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-06 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 6, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Dair Grant wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: TeleAtlas data is copyrighted, and when licensed is licensed under an incompatible copyright. The data you're proposing taking from Wikipedia is probably derived, via Google, from that same TeleAtlas (or Navteq) data

[OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
if somebody has a better idea later. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
infringing. Rest easy. We incur no extra legal risk when importing public-domain or licensed (under a compatible license) data. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
no evidence that your speculation is true, then yes, it's innocent infringement. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
really weird ideas about copyright. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 5, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: Russ Nelson schrieb: Any reason not to go through Wikipedia and import everything with a coordinate as a POI, with a url=http://wikipedia.org/NAME link, and name=NAME where NAME is the name of the Wikipedia entry? * There is already a free

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
isn't talking. No, I didn't think anybody was insane enough to worry about copyright. There are FAR more important issues in doing an import from Wikipedia. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
On May 5, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Fine enough, and who sweated hardest to click in a particular point on a Google Map? Google? Or the Wikipedia editor[...]? Sweat-of-the-brow doesn't mean that. It doesn't mean that A did some work, but B did

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia POI import?

2009-05-05 Thread Russ Nelson
to be an armchair lawyer rather than exercize their brain. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] gdalwarp question

2009-05-02 Thread Russ Nelson
on projections is home, but it's quite possible that your chosen projection cannot properly represent the poles. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] What is OSM and what isn't?

2009-05-01 Thread Russ Nelson
for Cloudmade). -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] open street map - what's in it for you?

2009-05-01 Thread Russ Nelson
question: yes but, what's in it for you? Has anyone else been asked similar questions, and what was your response? Or Who pays for your gas? etc. Yes, have been asked it. The answer: it's fun! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-us] Tool to fix Tiger data

2009-05-01 Thread Russ Nelson
the list appraised of my progress. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoQR - Geocoding Video with QRCodes

2009-04-29 Thread Russ Nelson
synchronized using a clapper. The timing is constant; it's just a question of having the audio and video synched. Well, same thing for a GPX file and a video file. Match the number of seconds into the video against the number of seconds into the GPX tracks, and you're all set. -- Russ Nelson

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS logger

2009-04-28 Thread Russ Nelson
of GPSBabel can download from it. Streams to bluetooth and serial. Has a compass. Was $100 when I bought it; dunno what it goes for now. I recommend them all, but audio mapping with the Columbus is the most fun. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-25 Thread Russ Nelson
that unless there's a groundswell of opinion against it, I'm not going to worry. Because, I mean, there *is* another solution to the problem of unreviewed tiger data: Review it! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com

[Talk-us] What, exactly, does the absence of tiger:reviewed=no mean?

2009-04-25 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 25, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Bill Ricker wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: Okay, it's pretty clear that most people don't want this change implemented. but it's still the right thing to do. Yes and no. Further to Apo's point

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Nelson
likely that the change was made to fix a problem. It's possible that there are still remaining problems, but ANYTHING in OSM can have errors. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-24 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 24, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: the tiger data is terrible wrong in some places. And how do you know this? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Substantial meaning

2009-04-23 Thread Russ Nelson
country, an entire theme (e.g. everything tagged with cycleway). -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-23 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 22, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: what is the benefit in doing this? There is no other method for somebody to say I looked at this and everything about it is correct. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Russ Nelson
comments, and consider null to be equally meaningless, then (again, I speculate) JOSM is getting more meaningful comments. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Blame me for JOSM yellowness

2009-04-22 Thread Russ Nelson
in the US which are correct, but how would anybody know unless they've been reviewed? And without showing people that the roads haven't been reviewed yet, it's hard to find the unreviewed ones. So if you find this obnoxious, blame me, not the JOSM devs. All my idea. -- Russ Nelson - http

Re: [OSM-talk] IMPORTANT - OSM API upgrade - Read Only access

2009-04-17 Thread Russ Nelson
that couldn't be rescheduled for later). But hopefully in case I've forgotten anything I'll still have read-only access. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] maplint addr:

2009-04-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: Russ Nelson schrieb: Maplint seems to greatly dislike addr:interpolation and addr:housenumber. Someone did every block in Hoboken, NJ and it looks simply AWFUL with maplint turned on. Every addressing node and way gets marked

Re: [OSM-talk] Offline editing during downtime

2009-04-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 17, 2009, at 12:16 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: Or is there some conversion tool that can be used to upload data edited during the outage? If there isn't, there will be. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

[Talk-us] mapping party reminder for this weekend

2009-04-17 Thread Russ Nelson
. The only serious lack of fun is that we won't get to see our work rendered until after I get it uploaded some time on Monday. The details: http://community.cloudmade.com/event/custom/generic/show/132 -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-09 Thread Russ Nelson
. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-08 Thread Russ Nelson
. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread Russ Nelson
technically correct. Not that numbering individual houses is wrong, either. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] Addr:streetnumber:first;last:left;right

2009-04-07 Thread Russ Nelson
On Apr 7, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Marcus Wolschon wrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:28:16AM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: Thus, for many roads near me, interpolation is not only usable, it's technically correct. Only if every

[OSM-talk] Reminder: Baltimore mapping party

2009-04-03 Thread Russ Nelson
print. Okay, I'm gonna send this one last reminder off and then enter all the data I gathered in my explorations of Baltimore this afternoon! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [Talk-us] Historical locations

2009-04-03 Thread Russ Nelson
to the name of the tags. In some cases, there remains evidence of the historical use, e.g. what was a schoolhouse is now a home. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Reminder: Baltimore mapping party

2009-04-03 Thread Russ Nelson
print. Okay, I'm gonna send this one last reminder off and then enter all the data I gathered in my explorations of Baltimore this afternoon! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging dangerous areas

2009-03-29 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:42 PM, NL wrote: Is it unsafe to park a bike/car there? We should mark areas of high bicycle theft, but we'd need a map to display it. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=cyclefootway

2009-03-28 Thread Russ Nelson
pedestrians enter at the risk of their lives? I know of no such. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] Allowed ? GSoC'09

2009-03-28 Thread Russ Nelson
however,seen many organizations under GSoC'09 making use of APIs from Google/Yahoo! .. Just wondering.. Why wouldn't you be able to use documented APIs? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter

[Talk-us] mapping party reminder for this weekend

2009-03-27 Thread Russ Nelson
Three mapping parties this weekend: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Boston http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Las_Vegas http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Concord_Mapping_Party_Mar2009 (that's Concord, California) Hope to see you there! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM Working Group Meeting

2009-03-25 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 25, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Nick Black wrote: * Early bird discount rates for SOTM09 end on 26th March - get your tickets soon! The email from dhansen just said that it ends on March 29th. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Russ Nelson
not related, or the *location* is not worth including in OSM. If we're going to cooperate with Wikipedia, then they need to cooperate with us by not allowing any dangling links. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Russ Nelson
or else link to our own wiki -- which would redirect to Wikipedia if no such article exists. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 16, 2009, at 6:47 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: On 16/03/09 00:26, Russ Nelson wrote: 1) Because ODbL 1.0 is better than C-By-SA Taking ODbL 0.9 instead of 1.0, I think that's at least debatable, Of course. I'm saying that when we adopt ODbL when it's published, we'll do so because

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-17 Thread Russ Nelson
a combination of pastureland and forestland, then YOU SHOULD EDIT the parcel so it's split up into pastureland and forestland. Oh, my god, I can't believe that I just said that you should edit the data. The horror! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-17 Thread Russ Nelson
this URL to their editors. Can you see how this doesn't really work when there are twenty or thirty editors, and twenty or thirty external data sources? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: As far as I can see, there is no reputation mechanism whereby experienced editors stand out from the noob editors, and the latter are reluctant to change the former's edits. And by definition if I don't know about

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Nelson
here, not by good programming practise. Ideology is for ideots. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Nelson
running around with GPS receivers not move his accurately-surveyed lines. It's all about the metadata, baby. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Nelson
and whether some body wants to add it. Yes, there could be stuff in OSM which is marked edit=fuck-no-you-moron. Could they edit it? Yes. Should they? Only if they want to make enemies. Cooperation is a two-way street. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Nelson
time to update it. And I'll report back here on the nature of those edits. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Russ Nelson wrote: Sorry, Ted, but you're being driven by ideology here, not by good programming practise. Ideology is for ideots. Really? So can we copy coordinates from Google Maps now? Okay, taking you somewhat more seriously now

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Legal review by ITO World's lawyer

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 14, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Peter Miller wrote: the viral nature of these licenses I don't want a virus, but I like the reciprocal nature of these licenses. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
problems. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 15, 2009, at 8:33 PM, Simon Ward wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 08:26:14PM -0400, Russ Nelson wrote: On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Gervase Markham wrote: why are we bothering with switching OSM to 1.0 at all? Why not just wait for the 1.1 fixed version? 1) Because ODbL 1.0 is better

Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk import as a data layer (like gpx currently is)

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
that data, nor the edits made to it, are going to be exiled from the database into this proposed bulk import data layer. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user

Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk import as a data layer (like gpx currently is)

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
ALREADY have to deal with it with the TIGER import. Neither that data, nor the edits made to it, are going to be exiled from the database into this proposed bulk import data layer. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r

Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk import as a data layer (like gpx currently is)

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Cartinus wrote: On Sunday 15 March 2009 17:42:26 Russ Nelson wrote: Every editor should show this data to a user when they go to edit. Otherwise, if there are things that are available to a map renderer but not to an editor, how will the editor know

Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk import as a data layer (like gpx currently is)

2009-03-15 Thread Russ Nelson
. I'd suggest something like source= I'd suggest instead that all bulk imports should each have their own userid. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Telephone Debate

2009-03-14 Thread Russ Nelson
switching. OSMF will try to communicate the purpose of the license change better with emphasis on the ShareAlike issue. They will try to address the German, Italian, etc communities better. No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools

2009-03-13 Thread Russ Nelson
stupidity. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - Twitter: Russ_OSM - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Reverse-Engineering Maps and Share-Alike Licences

2009-03-11 Thread Russ Nelson
case you're distributing the database ... just in a different format. Remember: judges aren't stupid (mostly). They really don't like it when you try to fool them by subterfuges like using a produced work to create a copy of the database. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
the import under a special-purpose userid, so we can withdraw the import if necessary. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
of edits people make. Too much speculation on what might happen Data! Must ... Have ... Data! -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
lines through the woods with a GPS receiver. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
in your area, y'know. On Mar 10, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Daniel A Carleton wrote: Is there an easy way to determine the activity level of users in my area? I live in Seattle, WA USA. Seems like most of you folks are in Europe. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http

Re: [OSM-talk] Activity Level in My Area?

2009-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
On Mar 10, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Daniel A Carleton wrote: f e.g. one-way street attribution that isn't present in the Tiger data. That can be fixed in a single day: drive down every road with a GPS receiver, and take a waypoint in the middle of the block of every one- way road. -- Russ Nelson

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
...@gw.dec.state.ny.us Date: March 9, 2009 2:06:13 PM EDT To: Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com Cc: Kurt Swartz kcswa...@gw.dec.state.ny.us, Larry Alber lal...@gw.dec.state.ny.us Subject: Re: DEC Lands Russ, There is no creativity in mapping or displaying of Public owned land. This isn't art, it's

[OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
of their metadata), adding an immutable=yes tag, with the intent of tracking their dataset, and deleting --outright-- any changes made by OSM editors. Begin forwarded message: From: Robert Morrell ramor...@gw.dec.state.ny.us Date: March 9, 2009 2:06:13 PM EDT To: Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com Cc: Kurt

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
. There are arguably many things currently in OSM which should not be edited. For example, political boundaries at every level. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
™. NYS DEC regularly publishes updated shapefiles. *I* would be the person keeping it up to date. -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
OSM because we can change OSM?? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-09 Thread Russ Nelson
to evaluate the quality of edits? How do we know if a particular edit improves or degrades the accuracy of the map? -- Russ Nelson - http://community.cloudmade.com/blog - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:RussNelson r...@cloudmade.com - http://openstreetmap.org/user/RussNelson

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