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On 12/6/13 7:00 AM, Martin wrote
2013/12/5 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Generally they?re not offices but mailboxes in post offices that are the
problem. They get tagged, but if you go there, all that?s there is a private
post office.
because you checked this personally? How would you
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam
2013/12/4 Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com
If I'm following correctly the problem is that they have no physical presence
as a shop, but are online only businesses. With no physical presence mapping
them becomes somewhat difficult. The one I mentioned earlier is one
2013/12/5 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Generally they’re not offices but mailboxes in post offices that are the
problem. They get tagged, but if you go there, all that’s there is a
private post office.
because you checked this personally? How would you know that these are
mailboxes and not
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Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam
2013/12/5 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com
Generally they’re not offices but mailboxes in post offices that are the
problem. They get tagged, but if you go
Hello!
The guy behind CoinMap here. I was invited by mgehling to join the
discussion, thanks!
Like it was said, it's correct that I don't want entities on map, that
don't have brick-and-mortar presence. Sadly lots of people think of
CoinMap/OSM as a cheap way how to advertise their
Hi Pavol,
probably to part of prevent this issue you could allow your users to add
their non-brick-and-mortar businesses to a separate database you manage.
You could list them in the search, but not show them on the map.
Probably it's possible to work out a solution where these businesses
could
I guess e-businesses have a legitime interest in being found on a
bitcoin accepting businesses directory, but not necessarily on
being
shown on a bitcoin map.
One I edited recently (probably - is there any way of telling for
sure if the edit has come via coinmap) was a user at Discogs who had
Ed Loach wrote:
I guess e-businesses have a legitime interest in being found on a
bitcoin accepting businesses directory, but not necessarily on
being
shown on a bitcoin map.
One I edited recently (probably - is there any way of telling for
sure if the edit has come via coinmap) was a user at
Peter Wendorff wrote:
but they are no shops, and they should not be tagged as being shops. You
cannot go to the corresponding address and do something - as a usual client.
access=email_only :)
The address is not a problem since we want them detailed, it is only the extra
tags? But I like the
2013/12/4 Ed Loach edlo...@gmail.com
If I'm following correctly the problem is that they have no physical
presence as a shop, but are online only businesses. With no physical
presence mapping them becomes somewhat difficult. The one I mentioned
earlier is one Discogs user tagging their home
On 03.12.2013 23:10, Frederik Ramm wrote:
For two of your examples¹ I have to confess that I sometimes also map
only the name or the name and the address plus a describing note if it
is too difficult to find a matching tag for a shop, craft or similar.
So I wouldn't consider these POI as SPAM
: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Date: 2013/12/3
Subject: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org
Hi,
we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes which seem to be
added by people who create an account for just one purpose, namely
adding a business to the map
2013/12/4 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
Dato che si è parlato di bitcoin e di Coinmap anche su questa lista,
segnalo questo thread nella lista internazionale.
Si parla di alcuni negozi che hanno una sede legale ma non un vero e
proprio negozio fisico, ma solo on-line.
segnalo
Niente da eccepire: sono perfettamente d'accordo con Frederik.
Nei mesi scorsi ho cercato di tenere pulito il più possibile il database,
facendo non so quante centinaia di correzioni, ma ultimamente, un po' per
mancanza di tempo, un po' perché i nuovi inserimenti sono una quantità
abnorme, non
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2013/12/4 Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com
Niente da eccepire: sono perfettamente d'accordo con Frederik.
per me alcuni non erano proprio spam, solo inseriti incompletamente. Se si
trova un ufficio lì anche se non è un negozio comunque va bene inserirlo.
Per me spam sono solo gli
Hi,
we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes which seem to be
added by people who create an account for just one purpose, namely
adding a business to the map.
This could be great - if every business were to add themselves to the
map, we'd have a nice collection of POIs.
However, in
Frederik Ramm wrote:
I delete the ones I encounter when they're outright spam but I'm shying
away from suggesting some kind of automated cleaning job because I'm not
clear on what the minimum tagging should be on any node. We don't
currently have any such rules but seeing people dumping things
Hi,
This is a good problem to have. The http://coinmap.org/ web site has a
video on how to had POI to OSM. We should ask them to update the
video.
Thanks
Jason.
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes
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Hi,
we're seeing a rising number of new ways and nodes which seem to be
added by people who create an account for just one purpose, namely
Hi,
I put on a comment on the u-tube video asking them to add instructions
on how to enter addresses.
The coinmap website uses OSM's other tags like shop/sport/etc for
different icons. They are not encouraging tagless POI's. I suspect
that the person running the coinmap website does not want
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
However, in the case at hand, it seems that the interest is not to
improve OSM but instead we're just a vehicle for people to show up on
the coinmap, a business directory for bitcoin-accepting businesses.
I don't think
On 12/03/2013 09:55 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote:
However, in the case at hand, it seems that the interest is not to
improve OSM but instead we're just a vehicle for people to show up on
the coinmap, a business directory for
Steve,
You're right, in theory, but there's a bunch that Frederik has omitted.
First, the coinmap people have not merely been documenting places, but
doing whole copying from map to map. They even had a video on how to do it,
but that's gone.
Secondly, they don't verify the information they
So these are not even the shop owners themselves which are spamming us
with useless information?
Jo
2013/12/4 Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com
Steve,
You're right, in theory, but there's a bunch that Frederik has omitted.
First, the coinmap people have not merely been documenting
It depends on which contributors are which.
We have a few contributors who are the shop owners and they make a single
edit, adding their stores.
But we also have people who have taken a list of stores and either:
1. Plugged the store into Google to find the location
2. Plugged the address into
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