I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps background for
OSM editing. Is it legal?
http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/
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El 30/03/2010 10:28, simone gadenz escribió:
I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps
background for OSM editing. Is it legal?
http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/
Scroll down and you'll find this piece of text:
It's been a year since I've done anything with Google
Definitely not. See the last note on the page:
It's been a year since I've done anything with Google WMS, but I still get
so much hate-mail about this service.. Here's what they want me to say..
Adhere to the Google Maps terms and conditions and don't trace data into
Open Street Map..
Yet in his
simone gadenz wrote:
I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps
background for OSM editing. Is it legal?
http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/
No. You must not use Google as a source for OSM. This would be a breach
of Google's terms of use, it would taint OSM's data and
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 08:28, simone gadenz s.gad...@geologyx.it wrote:
I have just come across this WMS service providing google maps background for
OSM editing. Is it legal?
http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/
Is it legal to?
* Use it in JOSM: Yes
* Edit data based on it: Yes
*
El 30/03/2010 11:36, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason escribió:
I'm sure the FSF doesn't send people who write non-free programs with
Emacs hate mail :)
You should attend a lecture by Richard Stallman :-P
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Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es
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On 30 March 2010 02:36, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote:
Is it legal to?
* Use it in JOSM: Yes
* Edit data based on it: Yes
* Upload it to the OSM servers: No
JOSM has the capability to use any server you want (or none at all),
not all servers are run at
On 30 March 2010 10:53, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote:
He could keep the page and program up there but
should put warnings
I don't think it's even legal for him to have this service? Doesn't
google TOS prohibit both storing the tiles and republishing outside
google's own api?
On 30 March 2010 21:08, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think it's even legal for him to have this service? Doesn't
As someone else pointed out, there is nothing illegal about the code,
it might be against their terms and services to use it but that's
contract law, not
On Mar 30, 2010, at 6:08 AM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 30 March 2010 10:53, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote:
He could keep the page and program up there but
should put warnings
I don't think it's even legal for him to have this service? Doesn't
google TOS
I dropped the message to the list because for me was obvious the service was
violating the term of Google's license but i was not sure it was illegal. In
any case I was worried of the implication for the OSM. Can this service be a
problem for the OSM community and in case Is OSM able to cope
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:38, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote:
I think the comment he has put about hate mail is really bad though, it
makes OSM out to be a bad project/community even though it created JOSM.
Would it really hurt him to put a notice about copyright to say check out
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:53, simone gadenz s.gad...@geologyx.it wrote:
I dropped the message to the list because for me was obvious the service was
violating the term of Google's license but i was not sure it was illegal. In
any case I was worried of the implication for the OSM. Can this
On 30 March 2010 13:27, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't make something illegal and google are free to send him a
CD if they feel up to it, but that's civil contract law.
Ok, so it's not automatically a crime but it's still fair to say it
isn't legal if you take obeying
On 30 March 2010 14:10, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 30 March 2010 13:27, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
That doesn't make something illegal and google are free to send him a
CD if they feel up to it, but that's civil contract law.
Ok, so it's not automatically
Ian Dees wrote:
We need to be careful about our words. Tracing data into OSM from any
source could be a violation of the terms of use of the service, but it
is definitely not illegal.
Well - there may be some jurisdiction out there dumb enough to make a
violation of some Ts Cs an
On 30 March 2010 22:16, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
People shouldn't be uploading data from sources it's not allowed to,
They shouldn't upload data they don't have permission to upload...
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On 30 March 2010 22:10, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote:
people do. And if they send that guy a CD he'll be responsible of
ceasing to distribute the tiles as well as repair damage caused (or at
He's not distributing a program that breaks their TOS since he's not
directly doing
On 30 March 2010 22:15, Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Well - there may be some jurisdiction out there dumb enough to make a
violation of some Ts Cs an infringement of some law or other.
Unlikely, but possible, and dafter laws do get passed from time to time,
so definitely not
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
Did you read the website? Here's what it says: Adhere to the Google
Maps terms and conditions and don't trace data into Open Street
Map...
The context is important.
Website content:
It's been a year since I've done anything with Google WMS, but I still
get so
Hi,
Tobias Knerr wrote:
So it's in quotation marks and it isn't at all presented as the author's
personal statement, it's what people sending hate-mail want him to
say. Putting that advice in the mouths of senders of hate-mail certainly
isn't what you do if you want to honestly want to warn
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 13:04, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
To the same effect, he could have written just ignore the naggers with
their legalities and trace away. It's only insignificantly more subtle
the way he phrases it.
Could have should have. Let's not forget the context
2010/3/30 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com:
I'm not breaking Google's TOS. Just because I give you hammer that
make me responsible for you bludgeoning someone to death with it.
well, give a kid a gun and you ARE responsible (at least partially)
for what happens. There's to decide
On 30 March 2010 06:04, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
Did you read the website? Here's what it says: Adhere to the Google
Maps terms and conditions and don't trace data into Open Street
Map...
The context is important.
Website content:
It's
I dropped the message to the list because for me was obvious the service was
violating the term of Google's license but i was not sure it was illegal. In
any case I was worried of the implication for the OSM. Can this service be a
problem for the OSM community and in case Is OSM able to cope
2010/3/30 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com:
I'm not breaking Google's TOS. Just because I give you hammer that
make me responsible for you bludgeoning someone to death with it.
well, give a kid a gun and you ARE responsible (at least partially)
for what happens. There's to decide
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