Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net: No, Roy wants to tag the semantics of the stop-sign. If this really simplifies the task of the data consumers, it's all the better. It seems the problem Roy is trying to solve is to seperate lanes out, of a dual direction way by use of a

Re: [OSM-talk] my flag is not showing on the green

2009-08-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 28 Aug 2009 12:08:37 am Jon Burgess wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 16:29 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Parameter name=tableselect node from planet_osm_point where golf='green' as golfmarkers/Parameter Try: select way,golf from planet_osm_point where golf='green' as

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/28 Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net: No, Roy wants to tag the semantics of the stop-sign. If this really simplifies the task of the data consumers, it's all the better. It seems the problem Roy is

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: So what are you proposing? How should we tag stop signs? To me, it seems you are suggesting that stop signs should *only* be tagged on ways that are oneway=yes. What are you proposing? Nothing of the sort. We really don't seem to be on the same

[OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: Ok, I understand. Do you have any antibiotics? If have an answer or not doesn't matter, the OSM community is more than the sum of it's parts and some people may already have experience with other systems that do do this already and may be able to

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: This does bring up a few more combinations that are not currently covered. I've had a couple of runs over to Milton Keynes in the last couple of days, and GETTING into the correct lane even to go straight on can be a problem, with the outside lane of

[OSM-talk] dissapearing country border

2009-08-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I'm from Croatia and I have seen something strange when looking at borders. If you look at this map you will clearly see borders: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.2lon=16.51zoom=7layers=B000FTF But if you zoom in or out the borders start to dissapear, especially between Slovenia and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Proposed feature: Directional node

2009-08-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
Andrew MacKinnon wrote: This is a proposal for a generic way of tagging a node which represents an object which faces a certain way - e.g. a traffic sign such as a stop sign. It lacks an example where this complex modelling would even be necessary. In all examples mentioned so far, a node

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: I actually think it leaves things in slightly better shape - like me tagging a post box outside, or tagging my addr:housenumber. Sure, it's I'm not talking about post boxes or house addressing schemes, I'm talking about being able to tag lanes on a

[OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
More diary spam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mariann/diary/7691 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
Sorry for thinking out loud but here we go. A Way can have many lanes, Infact the default is lanes=2 (or is it?) oneway=yes infers lanes=1 lanes can be used for many purposes including turning, parking, walking cycling. Lanes need names I guess partially if we all going to use them to describe

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread Roy Wallace
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/28 Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com: Ok, I understand. Do you have any antibiotics? If have an answer or not doesn't matter, the OSM community is more than the sum of it's parts and some people may already

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: A Way can have many lanes, Infact the default is lanes=2 (or is it?) oneway=yes infers lanes=1 Seems like a sane assumption. A Lane may need to be in a relation etc. The way would be the relation, and the properties of the way should cascade to the

Re: [OSM-talk] New proposal: Bad data

2009-08-28 Thread James Livingston
On 27/08/2009, at 9:09 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I'd say the only thing you know for sure is that the source is unknown unless it is explicitly tagged. I wouldn't assume anything besides that. There are people who don't upload their traces (i personally always do) and who have all rights

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
John Smith wrote: Actually no, you can still tag stop signs on a way like people always have, then when lanes get sorted out they can be dealt with properly. I believe that stop signs have usually nothing to do with lanes (though there probably are exceptions). They apply to everyone travelling

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag lanes, not ways, was: Deprecating the use of Tag:highway=stop in favour of Key:stop

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: I believe that stop signs have usually nothing to do with lanes (though there probably are exceptions). They apply to everyone travelling into a certain direction, no matter on what lane. This becomes apparent in streets where there are no distinct

Re: [OSM-talk] New proposal: Bad data

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: If someone doesn't upload their trace _and_ doesn't add a source tag, then I'll assume that my GPS trace is more accurate than whatever they used. I think that's fair, because all someone has to do if they have an accurate way is let other mappers

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Wood
Accounts spamming are banned. They're usually caught in good time by our master admin. 2009/8/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: More diary spam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mariann/diary/7691 ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: Accounts spamming are banned. They're usually caught in good time by our master admin. Why not make use of crowd sourcing? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread Tom Hughes
On 28/08/09 09:24, John Smith wrote: 2009/8/28 Thomas Woodgrand.edgemas...@gmail.com: Accounts spamming are banned. They're usually caught in good time by our master admin. Why not make use of crowd sourcing? What do you mean exactly? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu)

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu: What do you mean exactly? Well if enough people can tag a post as spam it would effectively disappear from the site to be reviewed and/or deleted, maybe you could have a more extensive rating system, don't know, but this would allow native speakers of

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dlock_gate Shows to tag both ends of the lock. If there is a name just to use name. This was the original tag. However, it has various problems - for example, it makes it hard to render a lock as a single

Re: [OSM-talk] We need a report spam button for diary entries... and to ban accounts repeatedly spamming...

2009-08-28 Thread Tom Hughes
On 28/08/09 09:39, John Smith wrote: 2009/8/28 Tom Hughest...@compton.nu: What do you mean exactly? Well if enough people can tag a post as spam it would effectively disappear from the site to be reviewed and/or deleted, maybe you could have a more extensive rating system, don't know, but

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 27/08/09 14:27, Mike Harris wrote: On a related canal issue, I have a problem with deciding how to tag a canal bridge as a segment of a way. The way will often already have name= and ref= tags as a highway; but I want to add a name= and ref= tag for the canal bridge. Not keen on name_1 or

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread Gervase Markham
On 26/08/09 21:42, Mikel Maron wrote: IMO, the wiki should reflect the current collective thinking. If the collective thinking is in disagreement, then the wiki should show both sides, equally, with _respectful_ disagreement. If, however many years after starting the project, we are in

[OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? I see nothing happening at proposed features page for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/volleyball Cheers, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? People have been using natural=sand to tag golf bunkers. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] dissapearing country border

2009-08-28 Thread Matthias Versen
Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I'm from Croatia and I have seen something strange when looking at borders. If you look at this map you will clearly see borders: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.2lon=16.51zoom=7layers=B000FTF But if you zoom in or out the borders start to dissapear, especially

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Craig Wallace
On 28/08/2009 10:12, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? I see nothing happening at proposed features page for this feature: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/volleyball Cheers, Valent. I'd tag it something like

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread Alex Mauer
On 08/28/2009 03:46 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: If dieterdriest has found a number of people who've been ignoring the definition, Nobody (that I know of) has been ignoring the definition. It's just that the definitions didn't match the top-leveldescription. *None* of the definitions of the

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread James Livingston
On 28/08/2009, at 9:23 PM, Alex Mauer wrote: On 08/28/2009 03:46 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: If dieterdriest has found a number of people who've been ignoring the definition, Nobody (that I know of) has been ignoring the definition. It's just that the definitions didn't match the

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I second option that highway tag isn't used for physical purposes. Physical status of road *can* define it's importance (legal or subjective), and I think there is where disagreement is. More or less comon practice is to follow some kind of rules/laws when tagging roads. But it is also clear that

Re: [OSM-talk] New dimension of vandalism

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 Micha Ruh gnub...@gmail.com: All, please note that 'Dieterdreist' (german) translates to 'brazen Dieter' / 'uppity Dieter'. My vote got deleted by him _without any notice_. *** ** ** ***!

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread wynndale
On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: lock=yes lock_name=Withrington Bottom Lock When you are tagging a way, you can't use name= because that will already contain the name of the canal. Hence lock_name=. Why would you want to repeat the name of a canal on its individual nodes? Isn’t that

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:16 AM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/28 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? People have been using natural=sand to tag golf bunkers. But that is tagging for the renderer

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: 2009/8/28 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:16 AM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/28 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts?

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:16 AM, John Smithdeltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/28 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? People have been using natural=sand to tag golf

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Craig Wallacecraig...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 28/08/2009 10:12, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I would like to know how to tag beach (sand) volleyball courts? I see nothing happening at proposed features page for this feature:

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/28 wynnd...@lavabit.com: On 27/08/09 12:13, Jack Stringer wrote: lock=yes lock_name=Withrington Bottom Lock When you are tagging a way, you can't use name= because that will already contain the name of the canal. Hence lock_name=. Why would you want to repeat the name of a canal

[OSM-talk] Update on using Translatewiki for translations

2009-08-28 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasonava...@gmail.com wrote: I'm splitting this from the previous thread. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Richard Fairhurstrich...@systemed.net wrote: Potlatch uses the OSM wiki for localisation. I have no plans to change this in favour of

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Childs wrote: The Canal way will need to be split at the lock gates, (or in some cases where a diversion starts (due to some rivers going over weirs) while there is a lock for boats. (UK-specific tagging stuff follows) Ideally I'd like to discourage people from using a (non-closed)

[OSM-talk] unsubscribe

2009-08-28 Thread Vermoesen Koen
unsubscribe Dit elektronisch bericht en zijn bijlagen zijn vertrouwelijk en bedoeld voor exclusief gebruik door degenen die door de zender als geadresseerd zijn bedoeld. Het bericht en zijn bijlagen kunnen informatie bevatten voor beperkt gebruik of onderworpen aan copyright of andere

[OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update

2009-08-28 Thread Nick Black
Hello, Here's an update on the current state of the local chapters working group: *Local Chapters Agreement* The debate around the details of setting up local chapters is happening on the local chapters wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters and its discussion

[OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:49, Nick Black wrote: Hello, snip *Next Meeting of the Local Chapters Group* The local chapters working group will meet at 6pm BST on Weds 30th September to discuss these issues and others. The agenda of the meeting is: * What is the process for creating

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/29 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: As agreed in an earlier thread on talk [1] can we have an email list for this subject. How about talk-local? Can we have it now! +100 Why are people being excluded from these decisions when I've repeatedly told/emailed you that 6pm BST is

[OSM-talk] Canada Chapter

2009-08-28 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, On the talk-ca list it's still in the works (i put forward the idea, but no responses yet). Once the Canada Import is done... that'll be a BIG difference in Map quality. :-) But anyway, being a local foundation might let us work closer with Natural Resource Canada, and with Non-profits and

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update

2009-08-28 Thread Nick Black
Peter, John + list, Not sure where the details of payment have gone - I'll try to take a look at the history over the weekend, but I might not get the chance. The info is definitely on the wiki discussion page, which seemed a good place to hold the contentious issues. Totally agree regarding a

[OSM-talk] OSM in Wired

2009-08-28 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
OSM is featured in Wired Magazine today: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/gps-hackers/ Cheers, Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway=lock

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Childs
2009/8/28 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Peter Childs wrote: The Canal way will need to be split at the lock gates, (or in some cases where a diversion starts (due to some rivers going over weirs) while there is a lock for boats. (UK-specific tagging stuff follows) Ideally I'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Or not even limited to volleyball at all. Here in Rio de Janeiro it is very common to play futevôlei (footvolley, volley played with the foot, not with the hand) in the volleyball pitches. :) Cheers, 2009/8/28 Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com I'd tag it something like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] Beach volleyball

2009-08-28 Thread Matt Williams
2009/8/28 Arlindo Pereira nig...@nighto.net: Or not even limited to volleyball at all. Here in Rio de Janeiro it is very common to play futevôlei (footvolley, volley played with the foot, not with the hand) in the volleyball pitches. Indeed. However, in most cases they *are* (beach) volleyball

[OSM-talk] Trace type

2009-08-28 Thread Tomas Straupis
Hello During a meeting of Lithuanian mappers we raised an idea, that it would be useful to have type of track recorded along access/security details. That is currently you only specify how your traces can be accessed (public, private, intermediary). It would be nice to be able specify how were

Re: [OSM-talk] Trace type

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 Tomas Straupis tomasstrau...@gmail.com:  This could later be used in editors to use different colours for different types of traces. This way we would rather approximate street track along motorcar traces (if available) rather than foot-traces done walking alongside the street. in

[OSM-talk] Path in JOSM preset and motorcar=yes/designated

2009-08-28 Thread Pieren
Hi, I would really appreciate if the JOSM presets dictators could remove the option about motorcar in the JOSM presets dialog. We get on the french ML more and more complains about the confusion between unclassified, tracks, footway, path, etc. If in addition, the JOSM presets about highway=path

[Talk-in] osm server for India

2009-08-28 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
hi, I have put up the relevant files in: http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/ to create new tags, you need to add them to default.style, make the necessary changes in the default osm.xml file and add your new png icons to the symbols directory and then push your changes to the server. I will

Re: [Talk-in] osm server for India

2009-08-28 Thread Pradeep B V
Awesome. Can you share some OSM wiki URLs that can help understand styling? I would definitely like to try out a few experiments. - P On 8/28/09, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: hi, I have put up the relevant files in: http://bitbucket.org/lawgon/osmindia/ to create new tags,

Re: [Talk-in] osm server for India

2009-08-28 Thread PlaneMad
me too, i should be free in a couple of weeks to start dipping my hand into the pot :) On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Pradeep B V pradee...@gmail.com wrote: Awesome. Can you share some OSM wiki URLs that can help understand styling? I would definitely like to try out a few experiments.

[Talk-it] Complimenti a Marin C. (Roma su Wired...)

2009-08-28 Thread Edoardo 'Yossef' Marascalchi
http://www.opengeodata.org/2009/08/28/osm-on-the-front-page-of-wired/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Complimenti a Marin C. (Roma su Wired...)

2009-08-28 Thread Stefano Salvador
grandi !!! ho trovato l'articolo quà: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/gps-hackers/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Problemi linea di costa

2009-08-28 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 27 agosto 2009 18.38, Carlo Stembergercarlo.stember...@gmail.com ha scritto: A noi cosa manca per fare così? Sapete come hanno fatto gli altri? Hanno importato dei dati o si sono calcolati il confine partendo dalla linea di costa? In quest'ultimo caso: come? Possiamo replicare?

Re: [Talk-it] Problemi linea di costa

2009-08-28 Thread Gianfranco Gliozzo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:01:37 +0200 From: lucadel...@gmail.com To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-it] Problemi linea di costa Il giorno 27 agosto 2009 18.38, Carlo Stembergercarlo.stember...@gmail.com ha scritto: A noi cosa manca per fare così? Sapete come hanno

Re: [Talk-it] Talk-it Digest, Vol 33, Issue 76

2009-08-28 Thread ily m
Si parlava di FB, e più in generale di Social Network, così prendo la palla al balzo per parlarvi di un progetto che si chiama kirigo: l'azienda per cui lavoro, openliven (www.openliven.com) sta mettendo a punto una piattaforma per un Geo Social Network, basato su OSM!! Ci sono ancora delle

Re: [Talk-it] Problemi linea di costa

2009-08-28 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 28 agosto 2009 10.37, Federico Cozzif.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: Non mi ricordo la definizione esatta (era girata in ML mesi fa) ma le 12 miglia non vanno contate dalla linea di costa reale, ma dalla linea di base che è definita per legge. (La linea di base ad esempio tira dritto

Re: [Talk-it] Talk-it Digest, Vol 33, Issue 76

2009-08-28 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il giorno 28 agosto 2009 10.33, ily mily.il...@gmail.com ha scritto: Si parlava di FB, e più in generale di Social Network, così prendo la palla al balzo per parlarvi di un progetto che si chiama kirigo: l'azienda per cui lavoro, openliven (www.openliven.com) sta mettendo a punto una

[Talk-it] Seconda conferenza italiana sul software geografico libero (Bolzano 11-12 Novembre 2009) - pro memoria post-agosto

2009-08-28 Thread andrea giacomelli
[scusandomi per eventuali cross-posting, e con preghiera di diffusione] 1) Dopo il secondo annuncio, a luglio, vi invitiamo a questo punto a visitare (e divulgare) il sito http://www.gfoss.it/drupal/gfossday che contiene tutti i dettagli informativi e organizzativi - per eventuali informazioni

[Talk-it] FAQ

2009-08-28 Thread Pietro Battiston
Salve a tutti, qualche domanda da un inesperto, nel senso che mappo ormai da mesi ma molto sporadicamente e ogni volta mi ritrovo gli stessi dubbi: - ce ne frega qualcosa di mappare le cose sotterranee? Nel senso: abito a Perugia e c'è una bella rocca, con tanto di viottoli sotterranei (OK, non

Re: [Talk-it] FAQ

2009-08-28 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Pietro Battiston ha scritto: Salve a tutti, qualche domanda da un inesperto, nel senso che mappo ormai da mesi ma molto sporadicamente e ogni volta mi ritrovo gli stessi dubbi: - ce ne frega qualcosa di mappare le cose sotterranee? Nel senso: abito a Perugia e c'è una bella rocca, con tanto

Re: [Talk-it] Elezione Board Fondation

2009-08-28 Thread iiizio iiizio
2009/8/27 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Domani sono a Venezia (http://www.endsummercamp.org/), per la prima volta nella veste di rappresentante ufficiale della Foundation. Ma non era alle 18? Per le 22 potrei anche farcela. :) iiizio ___

Re: [Talk-it] Complimenti a Marin C. (Roma su Wired...)

2009-08-28 Thread niubii
Stefano Salvador ha scritto: grandi !!! ho trovato l'articolo quà: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/gps-hackers/ ___ Scusa e chi caspita e' Marin? Sara' il cugino di dieterdreist? :-) Ciao /niubii/

Re: [Talk-it] FAQ

2009-08-28 Thread Pietro Battiston
Il giorno ven, 28/08/2009 alle 18.05 +0200, Giovanni Mascellani ha scritto: Pietro Battiston ha scritto: - è vera la storia che un'area non va mai considerata di passaggio? Ovvero che se c'è una piazza che è utilizzata come passaggio - e nelle cittadine italiane gli esempi sono infiniti -

Re: [Talk-it] Rampe autostradali chiuse al traffico

2009-08-28 Thread Giacomo Boschi
G Zamboni ha scritto: Quelle che erano le rampe delle uscite precedenti sono state chiuse al traffico con barriere, ma non sono state demolite. Per ora ho aggiunto il tag access=no. Va bene così o c'è qualcosa di più appropriato? Sul wiki ho visto c'è anche la chiave disused:

Re: [Talk-it] Strade non asfaltate

2009-08-28 Thread Elena of Valhalla
2009/8/28 Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com: Ciao, importando i dati della regione FVG mi è venuto il dubbio su come indicare le strade bianche. Dal wiki sembra che sconsigli di usare highway per questo e di optare per track. per la verita` anche track e` highway=track Ma track io lo terrei

Re: [Talk-it] Strade non asfaltate

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 Elena of Valhalla elena.valha...@gmail.com: 2009/8/28 Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com: Ciao, importando i dati della regione FVG mi è venuto il dubbio su come indicare le strade bianche. Dal wiki sembra che sconsigli di usare highway per questo e di optare per track. per la

Re: [Talk-it] Complimenti a Marin C. (Roma su Wired...)

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/8/28 niubii f.pelu...@libero.it: Scusa e chi caspita e' Marin? Sara' il cugino di dieterdreist? :-) Ciao /niubii/ ero un po deluso che l'articolo non parla molto di Roma, ma sono contentissimo che anche nelle medie italiane OSM sta arrivando :D ciao, Martin

Re: [Talk-it] FAQ

2009-08-28 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Pietro Battiston ha scritto: Mmmh... il fatto che residential venga considerato dal wiki solo su Elements di tipo way ([0]) non ti tange? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dresidential Perlopiù no: il tag area serve proprio per questo[1]. [1]

Re: [Talk-it] Elezione Board Fondation

2009-08-28 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
...di venerdi' c'e' chi lavora anche fino le 22 :-( ma quando e' stato cambiato l'orario! anche io mi ricordavo fosse alle 18 :-( e bon ..vaben 2009/8/27 Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com: Domani sono a Venezia (http://www.endsummercamp.org/), per la prima volta nella veste di rappresentante

[Talk-it] Riunione OSMapper in FVG

2009-08-28 Thread marcellobil...@gmail
Si riuscira' un giorno a fare un MP in FVG ? saluti M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-at] Wie definiert man eine Einbahnstraße mit Gültigkeitsdauer und Baustellen mit Anfang bzw. Enddatu m

2009-08-28 Thread deep_eye
Norbert Wenzel schrieb: deep_eye wrote: Frage zu einer Baustelle in Lichtenau http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.495742lon=15.392203zoom=18layers=B000FTF Dies hat ein Anfang und Enddatum. Kann man das korrekt eintragen, damit die Baustelle von alleine wieder verschwindet oder muss ich

[Talk-at] User-Treffen Innsbruck demnächst

2009-08-28 Thread Boris Cornet
Hallo! Ich bereit gerade das zweite Innsbrucker Usertreffen vor. Es wird wohl so in zwei bis drei Wochen stattfinden. Wer eingeladen werden möchte, schreibt bitte eine Email an user-innsbr...@osm-at.org -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Boris Cornet aka borisC bor...@osm-at.org

Re: [Talk-at] Doris

2009-08-28 Thread Günther Zin .
Am So, 1.03.2009, 10:42, schrieb Wolfgang Wasserburger: Ich habe im Juli Kontakt zu DORIS (Gruppenleiter DORIS, Kurt Pfleger) aufgenommen, und damals die Antwort erhalten, dass aktiv über Möglichkeiten, OSM zu unterstützen, nachgedacht würde. Im Herbst sollte eine Entscheidung fallen. Im

Re: [Talk-at] Doris

2009-08-28 Thread Holger Schöner
Hallo, [zur Verwendbarkeit der Luftbilder von DORIS, Kommunikation mit DI Pfleger] weiß jemand wieder mal was neues? Ist das Projekt schon (teilweise) beschlossen oder umgesetzt? Gibt's schon Test-User? Ich bin gerade aus dem Urlaub zurück, und hätte vor, mich demnächst (in den nächsten ein

Re: [Talk-si] Dovoljenje za uvoz meje

2009-08-28 Thread Miha
Tole je bilo danes objavljeno na globalni Talk list http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-August/041220.html Mogoce lahko kdo od akterjev odgovori in se pohvali z dosezkom. LP, Miha. 2009/8/28 Damjan Gerli dam...@damjan.net Oznake so zadaj bistveno boljše, dodatno sem označil le

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread Cosmic Charade
could be the Java implementation on my installation. I don't mind terribly much - I can use my desktop PC if I need to - but I just like the idea of live GPS trackign and POI tagging (if this is possible). For example - miss a traffic light and pop it on the map or whatever - or a road

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread Cosmic Charade
how much better? I have heard kernel tuning can make a substantial difference... Maybe this is worth considering for the netbook - but I hear Debian is very conservative and slow to update with new applications? And would the eeePC branch work on an MSI Wind? Their basically identical as

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: could be the Java implementation on my installation.  I don't mind terribly much - I can use my desktop PC if I need to - but I just like the idea of live GPS trackign and POI tagging (if this is possible).  For example - miss a traffic light

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Cosmic Charade cosmichar...@gmail.com: how much better? I can't really make comparisions because I didn't use a stock kernel, however some sites I read while installing said there was gains to be had so I took that option :) I have heard kernel tuning can make a substantial

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: I develop a commercial surveying package for powerline design and of course use Qt, it is ideal for low power CPU's in the field with almost all of my customers using a panasonic toughbook which is quite slow but can last a whole day in the field,

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] How to tag giant acorn?

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/28 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: I had an eee701 and would beg to differ on the screen readability, but LCD 's have been improving at about the same rate that my eyes are failing! (lenses getting thicker) Yea well I have so far had the good fortune of not needing glasses or other optical

Re: [talk-au] More on highway shields

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
I've been thinking about the network=* tag when it comes to alphanumeric numbering, I'm starting to think this shouldn't be added in the alphanumeric numbering case, but should be used where a non-alphanumeric system is used, eg NR, NH, MR, DR. Does this sound sane to anyone else?

[talk-au] Hey from a newbie!

2009-08-28 Thread Jason Oakley
Hi everyone! I downloaded the MotionsX GPS app for my iPhone. I'd like to help out by doing my home town and nearby small towns which don't seem to be on OSM as yet. I visit about once every 1-2 months so can update over time. Has anyone written a HowTo for iPhones? I think that'd be cool to

[talk-au] More on highway shields

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
Travelling about the other day I noticed 'DR' on some QLD signs, NSW uses Dnumber, and here I was thinking the states were supposed to be unifying road rules and signage. I added a note about this to the aussie tagging guidelines. ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Highway page and Aus tagging guidelines page is inconsistent

2009-08-28 Thread James Livingston
On 16/08/2009, at 12:17 PM, Liz wrote: While looking at the wiki page describing the highway tag[0] recently, I noticed that the Australian entry in International Equivalence doesn't match what is on the Australian Tagging Guidelines page, and what actually gets mapped. I used to get

Re: [talk-au] Hey from a newbie!

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Ross
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jason Oakleywau...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! I downloaded the MotionsX GPS app for my iPhone. I'd like to help out by doing my home town and nearby small towns which don't seem to be on OSM as yet. I visit about once every 1-2 months so can update over

Re: [talk-au] Hey from a newbie!

2009-08-28 Thread John Smith
2009/8/29 Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com: After it's uploaded use JOSM, potlatch or merkatoor to consume the gpx file and turn it into OSM artifcats. The problem with doing this is you loose timing information, which I find useful for some things to show speed in different colours.

Re: [Talk-de] planet files etc auspacken - probelm

2009-08-28 Thread Christoph Wagner
Gary68 schrieb: :-) naja, tage dauert es nicht. und das planet will ich auch nicht wirklich auspacken, aber doch mit einer perl lib lesen. und eben das geht nicht. und das auspacken kann geschwindigkeitsvorteile bringen, wenn ich die datei mehrfach verwende. plattenplatz vorausgesetzt.

Re: [Talk-de] Modellflugplatz

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Simon
Am 28. August 2009 01:20 schrieb Garry garr...@gmx.de: Martin Simon schrieb: Das will ja auch keiner. Wo in meiner Mail liest du das? Wo habe ich behauptet dass Du das geschrieben hast? Es wäre - frühzeitig berücksichtigt-ein geeigneter Weg die OSM typischen Probleme zu lösen in dem man

[Talk-de] OT: neue Unit Software für eTrex Legen d HCx, Ver. 3.10

2009-08-28 Thread Adiac
Habe ich gerade auf der Homepage gesehen [1]. Hat es ein Linux-User unter Linux hinbekommen das (oder ein anderes) Update einzuspielen? Mit wine ist es mit nicht gelungen. Es gibt auch ein Update der FW des GPS-Empfängers auf 2.90, aber nur über den WebUpdater [2], keine separate Datei zum

Re: [Talk-de] Umgehungsstraße vs. Landstraße

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Simon
Am 28. August 2009 07:42 schrieb Adiac teamad...@gmx.de: ... indem man es nicht taggt - meine Meinung. Analog zu OSM erwartest Du von der StVO das an jedem Ortsschild auch ein 50er Schild hängt und auf der anderen Seite das 100er? Das Ortsschild trägt diese Aussage schon in sich... dafür muss

Re: [Talk-de] Umgehungsstraße vs. Landstraße

2009-08-28 Thread Adiac
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 10:21:12 schrieb Martin Simon: Das Ortsschild trägt diese Aussage schon in sich... dafür muss keine Zahl draufstehen - die steht halt in der StVO und an den Schildern an der Staatsgrenze. ;-) Dann brauchen wir es ja nicht zu taggen. Das halte ich für eher

Re: [Talk-de] Umgehungsstraße vs. Landstraße

2009-08-28 Thread Adiac
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 10:21:12 schrieb Martin Simon: Das halte ich für eher unwahrscheinlich dass jemand aufbricht um gemappte Straßen zu mappen nur weil die kein maxspeed haben. Bereits mehrmals durchgeführt. Brachte in meiner Stadt eine enorme Verbesserung des routings. Interesse

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