Re: [OSM-talk] How to photo fold-out maps

2008-01-10 Thread Bèrto 'd Sèra
You might want to put it under a heavy glass. But then you'll have a very pleasant time getting rid of reflections. An alternative maybe putting something rigid (like cardboard or metal) behind a single page and keep it vertical (perpendicular to the book). You can make two or three shots of si

Re: [OSM-talk] Why place matters, slides from Vanessa Lawrence talk

2008-01-10 Thread Jo
martin dodge wrote: > Hi, > > Just found an interesting set of slides of a talk by Vanessa Lawrence, OS > http://www.w3.org/2007/06/eGov-dc/presentations/VL_why_place_matters.pdf > with some prominent mentions for OSM. I particularly liked slide 46 > > cheers > martin > What slide 46 is trying t

[OSM-talk] How to photo fold-out maps

2008-01-10 Thread Lars Aronsson
I have an 1909 out-of-copyright book from the library. It has a fold-out map that is bound with the book, so I can't take it out. How do I hold the map flat to get a good photo? My current photos are not my proudest moment: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:LA2-stridfin-overviewmap-left.

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Martijn Verwijmeren
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:11:03 +0100 Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Paulson wrote: > > On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> the kansas city metro area lies in missouri and kansas (US) > >> Ok, how about its administration. To which governor must a mayor

Re: [OSM-talk] Why place matters, slides from Vanessa Lawrence talk

2008-01-10 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Jon Burgess skrev: > On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 00:09 +, martin dodge wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just found an interesting set of slides of a talk by Vanessa Lawrence, OS >> http://www.w3.org/2007/06/eGov-dc/presentations/VL_why_place_matters.pdf >> with some prominent mentions for OSM. I particularly like

[OSM-talk] new proposal - reservoir

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
in a bid to keep things consistent, i've created a new proposal for waterway=reservoir, and suggest deprecating landuse=reservoir http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/reservoir comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal approved - dam

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Ulf Lamping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Paulson schrieb: > > voting has now closed on waterway=dam, with 14 approve votes, and no > > object votes > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dam > > > > it has been moved to the approved features page > >

[OSM-talk] [voting] man_made=wastewater_plant - approved

2008-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi List! The voting about man_made=wastewater_plant ended with 14 approvals and no disapprovals. I've moved it from the proposed to the approved pages and also added it to the map features page. Regards, ULFL ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal approved - dam

2008-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > voting has now closed on waterway=dam, with 14 approve votes, and no > object votes > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dam > > it has been moved to the approved features page > > Is there a reason that you've not added it to the map features pa

[OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal approved - dam

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
voting has now closed on waterway=dam, with 14 approve votes, and no object votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dam it has been moved to the approved features page thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://

[OSM-talk] RFC - lake

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
is there any reason why this proposal has so many opposers? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Lake it seems a logical one to me, we need to differentiate between lakes and rivers, canals, etc. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

[OSM-talk] tidied proposal/RFC - waterfall

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
i did a bit of work tidying this up, although it's basically sound as far as i can see - should be pretty straightforward http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Waterfall comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing list tal

[OSM-talk] RFC - lock

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been a proposal for 13 months, with very little comment http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Lock a request for some more opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - The border of a country is not the coastline, but (at the very > least) 12 nautical miles from the coastline and in some places, much > further than that. ok, let's say i wanted to use this as a basis for drawing the national bou

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Unless I'm misunderstanding what we need here, Mediawiki Templates > aren't quite what we want: we want something more akin to Templates in > Word, where you 'clone' the template and then edit it to what you want. > Mediawiki templates require passing in arguments to the call to them, >

Re: [OSM-talk] Why place matters, slides from Vanessa Lawrence talk

2008-01-10 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 00:09 +, martin dodge wrote: > Hi, > > Just found an interesting set of slides of a talk by Vanessa Lawrence, OS > http://www.w3.org/2007/06/eGov-dc/presentations/VL_why_place_matters.pdf > with some prominent mentions for OSM. I particularly liked slide 46 > The map i

[OSM-talk] RFC - deletion of football tag

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this tag has now been superseded by gridiron, rugby league, soccer, etc. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/football in the interests of doing things properly, i've created a proposal for deletion, similar to how we handle proposals for creation of tags. i'd rather not get

[OSM-talk] voting open - ship

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has no unanswered objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/ship voting is now open thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] RFC - model aerodrome

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal has been languishing for 2+ months now, with little discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Model%27s_Aerodrome please could i get some comments thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://list

[OSM-talk] Why place matters, slides from Vanessa Lawrence talk

2008-01-10 Thread martin dodge
Hi, Just found an interesting set of slides of a talk by Vanessa Lawrence, OS http://www.w3.org/2007/06/eGov-dc/presentations/VL_why_place_matters.pdf with some prominent mentions for OSM. I particularly liked slide 46 cheers martin ___ talk mailing l

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] shop = chemist

2008-01-10 Thread Dermot McNally
On 10/01/2008, Ulf Lamping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I still need a good term for those shops that you seem to have in > england as well, "superdrug" and "Boots" may be good examples (at least > the shops not dispensing :-). I think "The body shop" also falls under > this category. > > I hes

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Tony Bowden schrieb: > Robin Paulson wrote: > After - I think - three questions over the last months about historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it from the map features page. If some one comes up with a good explanation what this is we might put

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] shop = chemist

2008-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
David James schrieb: > On Wed, January 9, 2008 7:30 am, Ulf Lamping wrote: > >> There's an RFC about shop=chemist, please have a look at: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Chemist >> >> On the wikipedia page about superdrug, I've found the term "health and >> beauty re

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Robin Paulson wrote: >>> After - I think - three questions over the last months about >>> historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it >>> from the map features page. >>> If some one comes up with a good explanation what this is we might put >>> it back later, but in the m

[OSM-talk] SotM 2008 venues: Madrid

2008-01-10 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
Hi all, I'm pretty sure I can get a hold on getting the Medialab Prado to host SotM 2008. Major downside: small-ish place. Warm and cozy, but definitively not as big as a university. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:State_Of_The_Map_2008#Madrid So, please discuss. Drop by the wiki

[OSM-talk] Kosmos v1.3 - shaded relief

2008-01-10 Thread Igor Brejc
Hello everybody, Kosmos rendering engine has a new version (1.3). The main new feature is relief shading tool in Kosmos.Gui, which can automatically download and process SRTM3 data for a given map area. If you're interested, visit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Kosmos. Good night, Igor

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Gerald A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/01/2008, Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Mediawiki templates require passing in arguments to the call to them, > > > which isn't really suitable for large clumps of text. > > I'm not a template guru, but there are ways to cre

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ulf Lamping wrote: > > After - I think - three questions over the last months about > > historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it > > from the map features page. > > If some one comes up with a good explanation wha

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Robin Paulson wrote: On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the kansas city metro area lies in missouri and kansas (US) Ok, how about its administration. To which governor must a mayor of kansas city suck up? I'm pretty sure that not to both. Maybe the "metro area" has som in

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Ben Laenen
Speaking of enclaves: it's fun to see how AND didn't do that small extra effort to include the missing bits of information here: :-p http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=51.43816923752404&lon=4.92520170283133&zoom=14&layers=B000F000F And staying in Belgium, I have to give you the Belgian regi

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Tony Bowden wrote: Robin Paulson wrote: Do you mean that a commune (the lowest level of self government) can be part of more than one unit of each of higher levels? Like this? yes. some examples: i think turkey lies partly in europe, partly in asia? There are other examples at even this high

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stops and the like

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Robin Paulson wrote: >> But why do we need a category at all? Might it not be better to simply >> say "this is a tram stop and these are its properties". >> >> Instead of >>highway=primary, ref=A1303, name=High Street >> we'd say >>primary_road(ref=A1303, name=High Street) >> [note: please

Re: [OSM-talk] monorail in osmarender is purple?

2008-01-10 Thread Colin Marquardt
Mario Salvini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > why is that? > I try to map a bigger train-station with lots of single-railways. and > now, the whole trainstation is purple :-P A regular railway is usually *not* a monorail (= Einschienenbahn in German). Illustration: http://icanhascheezburger.com/20

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Ulf Lamping wrote: > After - I think - three questions over the last months about > historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it > from the map features page. > If some one comes up with a good explanation what this is we might put > it back later, but in the meantime t

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Ulf Lamping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After - I think - three questions over the last months about > historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it > from the map features page. > > If some one comes up with a good explanation what this is we might put > it

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless I'm misunderstanding what we need here, Mediawiki Templates > aren't quite what we want: we want something more akin to Templates in > Word, where you 'clone' the template and then edit it to what you want. > Mediawiki templates require

[OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-10 Thread Ulf Lamping
Hi! After - I think - three questions over the last months about historic=icon on this list - with no real response - I just removed it from the map features page. If some one comes up with a good explanation what this is we might put it back later, but in the meantime this was only confusing

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Paulson wrote: > > On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Do you mean that a commune (the lowest level of self government) can > >> be part of more than one unit of each of higher levels? Like this? > > > > ye

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Robin Paulson wrote: > further to my previous post about editing the wiki, are there any > mediawiki gurus here? > a set of templates (or even one!) for proposals would save a lot of > time, does anyone feel like volunteering to create one? hopefully, > this would give some guidelines for people wh

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Robin Paulson wrote: On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you mean that a commune (the lowest level of self government) can be part of more than one unit of each of higher levels? Like this? yes. some examples: Franklin district in new zealand lies partly in auckland r

Re: [OSM-talk] voting open - museum

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Robin Paulson wrote: > yes. there are dozens of inconsistencies in the tags, but the tag > system is still in it's infancy, we're making it up as we go along and > writing the guidelines day-by-day. > problem is, there are very few people managing the tag proposals > system and they don't have time

[OSM-talk] proposal templates

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
further to my previous post about editing the wiki, are there any mediawiki gurus here? a set of templates (or even one!) for proposals would save a lot of time, does anyone feel like volunteering to create one? hopefully, this would give some guidelines for people when proposing tags, and save a

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Robin Paulson wrote: >> Do you mean that a commune (the lowest level of self government) can >> be part of more than one unit of each of higher levels? Like this? > yes. some examples: > i think turkey lies partly in europe, partly in asia? There are other examples at even this high a level as wel

[OSM-talk] RFC - checkpoint

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been on the proposals page for 8 months now, with very little attention paid to it http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Checkpoint a request for comments and opinions, please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] voting open - museum

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Museum > > I was going to comment on the page, but it seems like a wider issue. Why > are some things like this only for nodes, and others for areas? generally because people don't think of it when th

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stops and the like

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, David Earl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think a lot of the discussions we end up having are because we are > forced to put a feature into a sometimes arbitrary or not-quite-right > category. very true, they are poorly selected, but they were based on what was known at he time - i.

Re: [OSM-talk] voting open - museum

2008-01-10 Thread Tony Bowden
Robin Paulson wrote: > this proposal is for two things: a new tag, tourism=museum and the > deprecation of the old tag, historic=museum > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Museum I was going to comment on the page, but it seems like a wider issue. Why are some things like this only for node

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stops and the like

2008-01-10 Thread David Earl
On 10/01/2008 19:00, Robin Paulson wrote: > at this point, we will have a far better, more-rounded picture of what > is happening with tags, how they could be improved, etc.: > does namespacing need to be seriously considered? > should we have such a shallow depth of tags, or a more nested approac

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> What is more important to me, and this is question for all who know, > >> how to cope boundaries *between* two areas, like administrative > >> ones? How to cope with boundaries of different administrative > >> levels? If a line is a bou

[OSM-talk] monorail in osmarender is purple?

2008-01-10 Thread Mario Salvini
why is that? I try to map a bigger train-station with lots of single-railways. and now, the whole trainstation is purple :-P -- mario ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stops and the like

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Robin Paulson wrote: > On 11/01/2008, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Tram_station >>> >>> it will be moved to the approved features and map features pages >> Should it be used for the stops on the track of a bus_guideway ;) >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Thomas Wood wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 6:34 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] What is more important to me, and this is question for all who know, how to cope boundaries *between* two areas, like administrative ones? How to cope with boundaries of different administrative levels?

Re: [OSM-talk] auto drawing island country borders (was Re: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Robin Paulson wrote: On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - There's no reason why you can't stick an admin boundary on a natural=coastline way. sounds good the idea of tracing over an existing boundary is not something that particularly appeals to me though, and as

Re: [OSM-talk] auto drawing island country borders (was Re: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-10 Thread Igor Brejc
Robin Paulson wrote: > On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - There's no reason why you can't stick an admin boundary on a >> natural=coastline way. >> > > sounds good > > the idea of tracing over an existing boundary is not something that > particularly app

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Thomas Wood
On Jan 10, 2008 6:34 PM, Lukasz Stelmach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Paulson wrote: > > can someone explain a few things about the way boundaries work, and > > their relation to the is_in key? > > > > as far as i can tell, when a location (say the suburb of balham, in > > london) is added to

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stops and the like

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Tram_station > > > > it will be moved to the approved features and map features pages > > Should it be used for the stops on the track of a bus_guideway ;) > > I do think that taking

Re: [OSM-talk] auto drawing island country borders (was Re: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Jan 10, 2008 10:31 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - There's no reason why you can't stick an admin boundary on a > > natural=coastline way. > > sounds good > > the idea of tracing over an existing boundary is n

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lukasz Stelmach
Robin Paulson wrote: can someone explain a few things about the way boundaries work, and their relation to the is_in key? as far as i can tell, when a location (say the suburb of balham, in london) is added to the map, the is_in tag needs to be set, multiple times. in this case, it would be set

[OSM-talk] applying for another country-specific mailinglist

2008-01-10 Thread ivom
Hi all, Apologies for the admin related topic, but I don't know exactly where to direct it. It is about applying for the creation a country-specific mailinglist. Who to approach to get a new mailinglist set up? [EMAIL PROTECTED] absorbs my message, but no reply after a week, so i guess there

[OSM-talk] auto drawing island country borders (was Re: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11/01/2008, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - There's no reason why you can't stick an admin boundary on a > natural=coastline way. sounds good the idea of tracing over an existing boundary is not something that particularly appeals to me though, and as it's been done once,

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Jan 10, 2008 8:55 AM, Abigail Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 10, 2008 4:37 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Really? Trying to future-proof against hierarchies that have been around > > for (in some cases) millenia? Ooh, I know, we could have negative numbers to > > in

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Abigail Brady
On Jan 10, 2008 4:37 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Really? Trying to future-proof against hierarchies that have been around > for (in some cases) millenia? Ooh, I know, we could have negative numbers to > indicate planet, solar system, galaxy, etc. For future interstellar use. > I'

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Karl Newman
On Jan 10, 2008 12:53 AM, Abigail Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 9, 2008 11:50 PM, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I understand why numbers are used instead of names. My question is why > > are there no odd numbers listed? It just looked strange. > > > > Future-proofing. I

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag: milestones, trigpoints etc

2008-01-10 Thread Thomas Wood
On Jan 10, 2008 12:48 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering is there an existing way to tag a marker that is something > for when you don't have a map, but of interest to the sorts or people that > are OSM mappers. > > The sort of thing I am thinking of: > milestones/

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 10, 2008 10:32 AM, 80n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having multiple ways of achieving the same (or similar) results is not a bad > thing. Each will have it's own strengths an weaknesses. Two points: - There's no reason why you can't stick an admin boundary on a natural=coastline way. - Th

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadnav

2008-01-10 Thread Ian Haylock
David Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ah, I'm not sure about the searching functionality, I don't think I played with that. If you are trying to position the map without gpsd I think you can edit a configuration file somewhere with your local long/lat. Oh yes, I found the config file, couldn't bel

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadnav

2008-01-10 Thread David Dean
Ah, I'm not sure about the searching functionality, I don't think I played with that. If you are trying to position the map without gpsd I think you can edit a configuration file somewhere with your local long/lat. - David On 10/01/2008, Ian Haylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > David Dean

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadnav

2008-01-10 Thread David Dean
Ian, You need to run the osm2navit or similarly named program to convert an osm file into the navit format before you can use it. - David On 10/01/2008, Ian Haylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > David Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have previously had routing working with osm in navit

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag: milestones, trigpoints etc

2008-01-10 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
80n wrote: >Sent: 10 January 2008 12:57 PM >To: Gregory >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag: milestones, trigpoints etc > >I've been tagging Coal tax Markers as: >historic=monument >note=Coal Tax Marker > >80n I've used highway=milepost a fair bit too Cheers Andy >

[OSM-talk] Bash Script to update planet file to latest change file

2008-01-10 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi, Here's a small script that will automatically download and apply all the required daily change files to make your planet file as up to date as possible. just save the file some where convenient, i.e. the directory where your planet file is located. Then chmod the file to make it executable

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag: milestones, trigpoints etc

2008-01-10 Thread 80n
I've been tagging Coal tax Markers as: historic=monument note=Coal Tax Marker 80n On Jan 10, 2008 12:48 PM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering is there an existing way to tag a marker that is something > for when you don't have a map, but of interest to the sorts or

[OSM-talk] How to tag: milestones, trigpoints etc

2008-01-10 Thread Gregory
Hi all, I was wondering is there an existing way to tag a marker that is something for when you don't have a map, but of interest to the sorts or people that are OSM mappers. The sort of thing I am thinking of: milestones/posts, that say how many miles to the next town trigpoints and various mark

Re: [OSM-talk] The OSM licence: where we are, where we're going

2008-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gregory wrote: > I don't know much legally but... Oh, I don't know, you seem to have summed it up pretty nicely there. :) > [...] > If I'm right then compatibility isn't quite as much as an issue as the > discussion has made me think. Yes, absolutely. As Abi says, Wikipedia's current policy al

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Abigail Brady wrote: > On Jan 10, 2008 11:29 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > You are almost right for the bigger administrative areas, but parish > and ward > boundaries are regularly on the move. I'm just working out how to > handle a

Re: [OSM-talk] The OSM licence: where we are, where we're going

2008-01-10 Thread Abigail Brady
On Jan 10, 2008 11:52 AM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I'm right then compatibility isn't quite as much as an issue as the > discussion has made me think. > Wikipedia's position is indeed that they are allowed to illustrate GFDL articles with cc-by-sa images, because the images and t

Re: [OSM-talk] source=yahoo

2008-01-10 Thread Gregory
When I use the source tag (and the note tag) I just make sure it includes the word someone might search for (sometimes I feel the need for a short sentence). So if anyone needs to know where everything is that's based on yahoo imagery they can just search for values including 'yahoo' and they shoul

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Abigail Brady
On Jan 10, 2008 11:29 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are almost right for the bigger administrative areas, but parish and > ward > boundaries are regularly on the move. I'm just working out how to handle a > couple of changes in other work I'm doing :( > Ah, but wards are elect

Re: [OSM-talk] The OSM licence: where we are, where we're going

2008-01-10 Thread Gregory
On 09/01/2008, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > Please can we keep this to legal-talk to stop discussion fragmenting? > Thanks. > > Longbow4u wrote: > > > After the > > proposed revision of the GFDL by the Free Software Foundation our maps > will > > probably be compatible w

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Abigail Brady
On Jan 10, 2008 11:35 AM, Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is Greater London debatable or for a mapping/administritive meaning are > you counting the outside boundaries of the London Boroughs? > > I personally do it by the London Transport zone, as your generally need a > 10-12minute bus servi

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-10 Thread Nic Roets
This problem can elegantly be solved as a "layer" on the output e.g. a hyperlink / ballon on web based map. OSM only need to indicate which nodes already has wikipedia entries and what their identifiers are. Then we can prevent duplicates from being rendered. > I suspect the most likely explanati

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Gregory
On 10/01/2008, Abigail Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2008 11:06 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Stephen Gower wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > > >> the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by > > > > > > N

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Abigail Brady wrote: > On Jan 10, 2008 11:06 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Stephen Gower wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > >> the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by > > >

[OSM-talk] Highway and Ralyway - tram_stop's and the like

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Robin Paulson wrote: > voting has now closed for this proposal, it has been approved, with 20 > yes votes, and 1 no vote > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Tram_station > > it will be moved to the approved features and map features pages Should it be used for the stops

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Abigail Brady
On Jan 10, 2008 11:06 AM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Gower wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > >> the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by > > > > Not where it isn't marked on the ground, and is only defined by > > re

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Lester Caine
Stephen Gower wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: >> the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by > > Not where it isn't marked on the ground, and is only defined by > reference to the Copyrighted national mapping. The is the case in > many plac

[OSM-talk] RFC - dog off leash area

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this is a month old now, with very little opinion/discussion http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Dog_off-leash_area could i get some opinions and suggestions added please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > > the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by Not where it isn't marked on the ground, and is only defined by reference to the Copyrighted national mapping. The is the case in many places in the UK. s ___

[OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal approved - tram_stop

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
voting has now closed for this proposal, it has been approved, with 20 yes votes, and 1 no vote http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Tram_station it will be moved to the approved features and map features pages thanks ___ talk mai

[OSM-talk] voting open - museum

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal is for two things: a new tag, tourism=museum and the deprecation of the old tag, historic=museum http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Museum voting is now open thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from wikipedia

2008-01-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robin Paulson wrote: > i'm slightly lost now, wondering how osm fits in to this. if wp users > can do it (i assume their legat team has looked through it?), why not > osm I suspect the most likely explanation is that they simply don't realise it's not legal - I'd expect discussion on the page i

[OSM-talk] new proposal - handball

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
a new proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Handball comments and opinions please thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Collinson
At 10:11 AM 1/10/2008, Robin Paulson wrote: >On 10/01/2008, Michael Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >which seems counter-intuitive, not to mention requiring huge amounts > > >of work. do we set this for every item - roads, churches, > > >supermarkets,thousands of other items? > > >is t

[OSM-talk] voting open - battlefield

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been proposed for two months now, with no objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Battlefield voting is now open thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/l

[OSM-talk] voting open - turning_circle

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
after 8+ months of discussion, voting is now open http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Turning_circle thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=busway (or alike) - second try - please vote

2008-01-10 Thread David Earl
As the original proposer, I had been wondering about doing the same myself. Thanks for taking the initiative. David On 09/01/2008 06:58, Ulf Lamping wrote: > Hi! > > When I read the voting result of highway=busway correct (voting was open > for quite a while), the general idea of tagging this

[OSM-talk] voting closed, proposal rejected - incline

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this proposal hs been open for voting for 6 months, and has 6 yes votes and 2 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Incline it has been moved to the rejected features page ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] A0 or A1 OSM map poster and other conference stuff

2008-01-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > I will be manning an OSM stand at the next OpenExpo(.ch) in Bern, > Switzerland in March. I need a poster for that. Unfortunately, I have > forgotten how people have been creating these so far. There was a > postscript renderer somewhere in CVS right? Or have people been using > Mapnik d

[OSM-talk] voting open - australian rules football

2008-01-10 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been discussed for several months now, with no unanswered issues http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Australian_rules_football voting is now open, please note the change to the tag name ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread 80n
On Jan 10, 2008 9:11 AM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/01/2008, Michael Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >which seems counter-intuitive, not to mention requiring huge amounts > > >of work. do we set this for every item - roads, churches, > > >supermarkets,thousands o

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Andy Allan
On Jan 9, 2008 8:44 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > can someone explain a few things about the way boundaries work, and > their relation to the is_in key? > > as far as i can tell, when a location (say the suburb of balham, in > london) is added to the map, the is_in tag needs to be

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