[OSM-talk-be] Test website for OSM streets

2010-02-01 Thread Kenny Knecht
Hi all, I've been doing a little programming and I would like to share the results with you: if you go http://users.edpnet.be/kknecht/ you arrive at a website where you can find the state of the OSM maps for some municipalities in the neighbourhood of Gent. In detail you can find - the

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread Rob
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: looks good! I will share that with the others. mike On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Rob r...@robreid.co.nz wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: That wiki table is a good idea. Let me know if you can't make it today (your day), maybe I can continue.

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Thanks for heads up, The idea of doing smaller chunks is to avoid conflicts, but if you get the latest data from the server we should be alright. Also the big deal is to not overwrite existing streets. There is alot of data! mike On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Rob r...@robreid.co.nz wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Todos: * don't overwrite existing streets. * run the validator, merge street segments * join streets that end near each other. * don't upload points that are not connected. code: Here is the hack to shp2osm.pl that does the splitting, please use that if you want to do mass

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread Maarten Deen
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Todos: * don't overwrite existing streets. * run the validator, merge street segments Very important. I see that different roads have their own nodes and when two roads connect, there are two nodes in the same spot. In JOSM, use the validator

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
Before you join streets that end near each other, I would recommend making sure that the streets actually connect to each other. Streets sometimes have barriers, or two disconnected segments, as a means of making sure that a particular street segment is used only within a particular

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread NopMap
Hi! Kai Krueger wrote: Even if promoting to the company did not work, it might still be worth promoting OSM in the media coverage / blogs of the Nav4All shutdown as a reason why it is important to have free and open map data to prevent anti-competitive activities by a few large

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Mike N.
format and had already evaluated it. The result of the evaluation was disillusioning: The geometry is pretty good, but the attribution is way below what would be required to substitute the commercial data. Can you give any more details? Although general tagging is an anarchy, 'automobile

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/1 NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de: standards (and I don't expect it will have - I'd like to point at my favorite example that there's still no agreed way to tag something as simple as a bicycle way), it is unlikely to meet the existing standards of commercial providers. well, how many

[OSM-talk] please revert two changesets

2010-02-01 Thread malenki
An import I did yesterday failed. Would somebody be so kind to revert these changesets: 3760931 3763181 thanks in advance malenki ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Dave F.
NopMap wrote: Hi! Kai Krueger wrote: Even if promoting to the company did not work, it might still be worth promoting OSM in the media coverage / blogs of the Nav4All shutdown as a reason why it is important to have free and open map data to prevent anti-competitive activities by a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Dave F.
Mike N. wrote: format and had already evaluated it. The result of the evaluation was disillusioning: The geometry is pretty good, but the attribution is way below what would be required to substitute the commercial data. Can you give any more details? Although general tagging is an

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Igor Brejc
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:31 PM, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: OSM is quite suitable for any hobby project, but I believe that the anarchistic nature and the often controversial and sometimes disputed and chaotic tagging are reason enough to deter the use of OSM in any professional area

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread malenki
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: There is a reason I split them up by streets and not by node count, it is to avoid lonly points with no streets like this : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/624505841 that whole section of the map is full of points with no streets. :( Changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, NopMap wrote: Hi! Kai Krueger wrote: Even if promoting to the company did not work, it might still be worth promoting OSM in the media coverage / blogs of the Nav4All shutdown as a reason why it is important to have free and open map data to prevent

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Paul Houle
Igor Brejc wrote: I have to agree with Nop, up to a point. OSM is a great project and I invest a lot of my free time in it, but I still think it has a lot of failure points. The first time I wanted to use OSM data for a professional job, the data simply failed me. And I'm only talking

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Thanks for all your help and enthusiasm malenki, of course such things happened to me as well. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:46 PM, malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: There is a reason I split them up by streets and not by node count, it is to avoid lonly points

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, NopMap wrote: OSM is quite suitable for any hobby project, but I believe that the anarchistic nature and the often controversial and sometimes disputed and chaotic tagging are reason enough to deter the use of OSM in any professional area where you are talking about warranties. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Igor Brejc
Frederik, All this is true, but I think we are too concentrated on generating content (i.e. mapping) as opposed to actually using this data for some meaningful purpose. I guess this is natural, since majority of OSM users are mostly map data producers, and only the minority is actively

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 01.02.2010 20:03, schrieb Frederik Ramm: I don't see how you could have the advantages without the disadvantages. Add a fixed tagging scheme and peer review to OSM and you get more quality but less data and longer turnaround times; before long you are TeleAtlas v2.0 and have to charge for

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Frederik, It is very easy to sit back and say we'll let the community fix the tagging over time. It is even conceivable that some players who build a business around OSM (and I'm not mentioning names here) may secretly want the tagging mayhem to continue because they already have software

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread 80n
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com wrote: Frederik, All this is true, but I think we are too concentrated on generating content (i.e. mapping) as opposed to actually using this data for some meaningful purpose. I guess this is natural, since majority of OSM

[OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread Gary68
hi, just published the first really usable version of my new renderer here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapgen.pl enjoy, if you are interested... feedback welcome! cheers gerhard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/2/1 80n 80n...@gmail.com: Come on guys tell us what you need. 80n How about generic tagging system for the start and improve from there? Some sort of *generic* standards for tagging before tag it and it will come. Problem is that there are people who are ready to map before working on

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ulf Lamping wrote: Seems a lot of mappers would be quite happy to follow an at least more fixed tagging scheme than what we currently have today. Unfortunately, there's no magic wand to get to this quickly ... It's beginning to happen already. As OSM's data structures (principally

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
sounds exciting, so It does what mapnik does, but in perl? mike On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: hi, just published the first really usable version of my new renderer here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapgen.pl enjoy, if you are interested... feedback

[OSM-talk] for the examiner.com

2010-02-01 Thread Liz
this person is asking for assistance / comments on an article http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/cpalmer/diary/9435 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi Gary, where do I get the OSM module? cpanplus claims it is not on CPAN. Or is it compatible with Geo::OSM ? Cheers, and thanks for your good work, Jochen On Lun 01 Feb 2010, Gary68 wrote: just published the first really usable version of my new renderer here:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It's beginning to happen already. As OSM's data structures (principally creative and unexpected uses of relations) and tags become more complex, and as the project expands beyond the initial audience of geeks, the editing tools are inevitably starting to

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
There might be an osm module in the svn from osm iirc. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Hi Gary, where do I get the OSM module? cpanplus claims it is not on CPAN. Or is it compatible with Geo::OSM ? Cheers, and thanks for your good work, Jochen

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi again, what I really like is, that in the generated example PDF you can find street names in Acrobat Reader via normal text search. And thanks to the simpler rendering scheme, using just single colour lines, the PDF seems to be small as well. Very nice. Jochen

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi Frederik, On Lun 01 Feb 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote: (In my OSM talks I like to show a communist-era poster about a five-year command economy plan. Command economy sounds like a good idea on paper but it turns out that the amount of planning required to get it to work is more than mankind

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nic, It is very easy to sit back and say we'll let the community fix the tagging over time. It is even conceivable that some players who build a business around OSM (and I'm not mentioning names here) may secretly want the tagging mayhem to continue because they already have software to

[OSM-talk] Fwd: FOSS4G 2010 Call for Papers

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Now look at that guy. Barcelona, Spain - as if he hasn't followed the latest developments on osm-talk! Original Message Subject: FOSS4G 2010 Call for Papers Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 14:08:44 -0800 From: Paul Ramsey pram...@cleverelephant.ca To: PostGIS Users Discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi again, it seems the OSM.pm Perl module used to be at On Lun 01 Feb 2010, Jochen Plumeyer wrote: Hi Gary, where do I get the OSM module? cpanplus claims it is not on CPAN. Or is it compatible with Geo::OSM ? Cheers, and thanks for your good work, Jochen On Lun 01 Feb 2010, Gary68

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi again, it seems the OSM.pm Perl module used to be at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/User:Gary68 , you announced the module like this about 2 years ago. But that URL doesn't work anymore. Cheers, Jochen ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] mapgen.pl

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/gary68/OSM/osm.pm On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Hi again, it seems the OSM.pm Perl module used to be at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/User:Gary68 , you announced the module like this about 2 years

[OSM-talk] New Video Tutorial: Presets in Potlatch

2010-02-01 Thread Margie Roswell
Here's another new video tutorial: OSM Tutorial - Using the Keyboard to Save Presets in Potlatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnt2RSaEEAfmt=18 The 55-second video will help you to work more efficiently in OpenStreetMap.org's Potlatch Editor. Reference:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: FOSS4G 2010 Call for Papers

2010-02-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 1 de Febrero de 2010, Frederik Ramm escribió: Now look at that guy. Barcelona, Spain - as if he hasn't followed the latest developments on osm-talk! Yeah. Meanwhile we'll be able to map Venezuela properly: http://osm.org/go/Yla_45u- -- -- Iván

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 01.02.2010 22:48, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: It's beginning to happen already. As OSM's data structures (principally creative and unexpected uses of relations) ROFL ;-) and tags become more complex, and as the project expands beyond the initial audience of

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 1 de Febrero de 2010, Richard Fairhurst escribió: [...] they'll just click the cycleway icon(s) in their editor and tick the appropriate options, and the editor will invisibly sort the tags out. *If* we don't ban the editor before :-) -- -- Iván

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Lunes, 1 de Febrero de 2010, 80n escribió: It is right that we are all concentrating on creation of content. But, what we haven't had yet is any commercial map data consumers telling us what they need. Well, in a way, maybe Nav4All is telling us what it needs... and I sometimes hear

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Having said that, if lack of documentation is your main concern, I could well envisage a pop-up in JOSM that goes: You have just entered a tag that is not documented on the Wiki. Please provide one line of documentation

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Lunes, 1 de Febrero de 2010, Richard Fairhurst escribió: [...] they'll just click the cycleway icon(s) in their editor and tick the appropriate options, and the editor will invisibly sort the tags out. *If* we don't ban the editor before :-) Needless to

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Someoneelse
Igor Brejc wrote: ... I think we are too concentrated on generating content (i.e. mapping) as opposed to actually using this data for some meaningful purpose. I guess this is natural, since majority of OSM users are mostly map data producers, and only the minority is actively involved in

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Someoneelse wrote: For instance, a company (let's call them Elcheapotech) wants to plot its customers' locations on a map. [...] but they would object if they had to make public their overlay. If they publish their overlay (for example in their yearly report - it counts as

[OSM-talk] Tagging Multiple Services to a Company/Building

2010-02-01 Thread Ian Mc Shane
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:24:59 -0500 From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Wine Farm and Wellness Spa Tagging To: talk@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: a768be481001311124r33827146s316bca459035c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-01 Thread John Smith
On 2 February 2010 11:44, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If they publish their overlay (for example in their yearly report - it counts as publishing even if the report is only given to selected people) then they have to do so under CC-BY-SA which will allow those who receive the work

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Multiple Services to a Company/Building

2010-02-01 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Ian Mc Shane ianmcsh...@live.co.za wrote: private banking services private_banking_services=yes foreign exchange foreign_exchange=yes tanning tanning=yes massage? massage=yes Note I'm just thinking aloud - but they would do the job, would they not...?

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-01 Thread John Smith
I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have scripts to be able to easily revert changes but I don't have anything set up at present. On 2 February 2010 15:45, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-01 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
will do it, no conflicts detected in dry run edit definitely looks destruction done by a newbie please notify the user why this has been done and explain how to edit. On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:54 , John Smith wrote: I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread Rob
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Todos: * don't overwrite existing streets. * run the validator, merge street segments * join streets that end near each other. * don't upload points that are not connected. In the sections I'm importing at the moment there is a couple

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-01 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
I forgot one more import, We are working on importing the house data from a goverment agency, KPAonline.org that has GPS positions and old streetnames. http://groups.google.com/group/free-software-conference/browse_thread/thread/5fbea63ef8efe659 The streetnames in kosovo have changed many times,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op Garmin

2010-02-01 Thread Roeland Douma
Was mevrouw Lambertus een weekendje weg weg ofzo :) Goed werk :) --Roeland On Monday 01 February 2010 09:35:25 Lambertus wrote: Volgens mij komt dit door een nieuwe versie van Mkgmap waar een bug in zit. Het schijnt dat de allernieuwste dit probleem niet meer heeft, dus die ga ik voor de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] OSM op Garmin

2010-02-01 Thread Lambertus
Ik geloof niet dat uberhaupt op huisnummer kunt zoeken met kaarten gemaakt met Mkgmap. Ik geeft op mijn 60CSx altijd een standaard nummer (maakt niet uit welke) en dan wil de search nog wel eens werken. Ideaal is het nog niet! Jacob Bax wrote: Weet nog niet hoe het zit met de gps (60CSx) maar

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Ei van Ommel (A67 afslag 38 Asten)

2010-02-01 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Stefan de Konink wrote: Maar goed, dat is ook direct het probleem met OpenStreetMap, het gaat in de wereld om ons heen om het verzamelen van data, en bij ons om het bijhouden van data. Iedere weg die je opknipt krijgt +1 setje tags die je appart moet bij houden. ik hak dit soort dingen ook

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Ei van Ommel (A67 afslag 38 Asten)

2010-02-01 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:44:40 +0100 (CET) you wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: Maar goed, dat is ook direct het probleem met OpenStreetMap, het gaat in de wereld om ons heen om het verzamelen van data, en bij ons om het bijhouden van data. Iedere weg die je opknipt krijgt +1 setje

[OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Bram Duvigneau
Dag mensen, Ik ben vrij nieuw met het hele OSM gebeuren en heb me maar eens aangemeld op deze mailinglist. Ik ben aan het kijken in hoeverre de OSM kaarten geschikt zijn voor een projectje dat ik op het ookg heb. Zelf ben ik volledig blind en voor deze doelgroep is GPS-navigatie natuurlijk

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Maarten Deen
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:56:09 +0100, Bram Duvigneau b...@bramd.nl wrote: Nu een van de producten voor de blinde doelgroep, Wayfinder access, is gestopt door overname van het moederbedrijf door Vodafone, ben ik eens gaan bekijken wwelke mogelijkheden er zijn om een opensource product te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Sybren A. Stüvel
On Monday 01 Feb 2010 10:56:09 Bram Duvigneau wrote: Ik ben vrij nieuw met het hele OSM gebeuren en heb me maar eens aangemeld op deze mailinglist. Ik ben aan het kijken in hoeverre de OSM kaarten geschikt zijn voor een projectje dat ik op het ookg heb. Welkom op de OSM-NL mailing list :) -

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Lambertus
Dag Bram, Volgens mij is OpenStreetMap in principe een natuurlijke bondgenoot voor mensen met een (visuele) handicap. Vrijwel alles is opensource en naar wens aan te passen. Geocoding en reverse geocoding is er al, alleen dan komen meteen bij het grootste minpunt in van OSM: we hebben nog

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Bram Duvigneau
On 1-2-2010 11:20, Lambertus wrote: Volgens mij is OpenStreetMap in principe een natuurlijke bondgenoot voor mensen met een (visuele) handicap. Vrijwel alles is opensource en naar wens aan te passen. Inderdaad, dat was ook precies mijn idee. De mogelijkheden om alles vast te leggen zijn er al,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Andre Engels
2010/2/1 Sybren A. Stüvel syb...@stuvel.eu: Dit gaat zeker beter. Er zijn een aantal standaarden vastgelegd per land. In Nederland staat hier bijvoorbeeld in dat voetgangers (en volgens mij ook fietsers) eenrichtingsverkeer negeren. Ook voet- en fietspaden die niet naast een (auto)weg liggen

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Bram Duvigneau
On 1-2-2010 13:36, Andre Engels wrote: 2010/2/1 Sybren A. Stüvelsyb...@stuvel.eu: Dit gaat zeker beter. Er zijn een aantal standaarden vastgelegd per land. In Nederland staat hier bijvoorbeeld in dat voetgangers (en volgens mij ook fietsers) eenrichtingsverkeer negeren. Ook voet- en

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Philip Homburg
In your letter dated Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:54:14 +0100 you wrote: Inderdaad, dat was ook precies mijn idee. De mogelijkheden om alles vast te leggen zijn er al, nu het vastleggen nog... Voorbeeldje: het zou fantastisch zijn om op een station de volgorde van de sporen te weten en voor blinden die

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread YRS
Bram Duvigneau schreef: On 1-2-2010 11:20, Lambertus wrote: Volgens mij is OpenStreetMap in principe een natuurlijke bondgenoot voor mensen met een (visuele) handicap. Vrijwel alles is opensource en naar wens aan te passen. Inderdaad, dat was ook precies mijn idee. De mogelijkheden om alles

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread F. Heinen
Misschien is het handig om goed te documenteren wat en hoe er allemaal gemapt moet worden. En ook hoe bijv. route planners zouden moeten werken. Ik haak er hier even in. Bram, ik vindt dat je een heel mooi punt hebt hier. Wat Philip hier al opmerkt, het documenteren van de functionele en data

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Rob
Op 1 februari 2010 23:34 heeft YRS jav...@hccnet.nl het volgende geschreven: Bram Duvigneau schreef: On 1-2-2010 11:20, Lambertus wrote: Volgens mij is OpenStreetMap in principe een natuurlijke bondgenoot voor mensen met een (visuele) handicap. Vrijwel alles is opensource en naar wens aan te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-01 Thread Andre Engels
2010/2/1 YRS jav...@hccnet.nl: Brengt mij op de volgende vraag: Hoe ga ik deze zaken (zoals geleidelijnen) mappen als mijn gpsje het (in de beschutting van de stationshal) laat afweten? De geodriehoek er bij pakken? OK. Grapje. Serieus: hoe pak ik zoiets aan? Gewoon, kijken waar het is, en

[talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-01 Thread Arie Paap
Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most of Busselton appears to have been deleted by user MAA on 31/1/2010. See following links: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.6573lon=115.3547zoom=12layers=B000FTFT http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MAA/edits

Re: [talk-au] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-01 Thread John Smith
I've forwarded a copy of your email to the main talk list, some people have scripts to be able to easily revert changes but I don't have anything set up at present. On 2 February 2010 15:45, Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest how to deal with this kind of vandalism: Most

[Talk-br] Pardais

2010-02-01 Thread Flavio Bello Fialho
Alguém já mapeou pardais? -- Flávio Bello Fialho ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br

Re: [Talk-br] Pardais

2010-02-01 Thread Samuel Vale
Em Seg, 2010-02-01 às 18:00 -0200, Flavio Bello Fialho escreveu: Alguém já mapeou pardais? Tenho colocado os radares fixos como pontos da via com a tag highway=speed_camera http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera Abraço, -- Samuel Vale srcv...@minaslivre.org

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Max Andre
Am 01.02.2010 08:28, schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Hallo, ich finde nirgends eine Beschreibung für einen Autoschalter. Meine Lösung: drive-in_counter == yes Leo.org liefert für Autoschalter im Englischen drive-in counter. Die Lösung ist m.E: so allgemein sein, dass man sie überall als Tag dazu

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 08:28:42 schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Meine Lösung: drive-in_counter == yes Finde ich jetzt intuitiv viel zu kompliziert. Ich würde davon ausgehen, dass es auch einen kürzeren, prägnanteren Begriff gibt, den die natives für den Zweck wählen würden. Spontan würde ich

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 01.02.2010 08:28, schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Meine Lösung: drive-in_counter == yes Willkommen in Pseudoanglesien! Wenn englisch, dann bitte einen Begriff der bei Muttersprachlern kein Stirnrunzeln hervorruft. drive thru bitte! -jha- ___

Re: [Talk-de] Vektorkarten auf Windows-CE/Mobile?

2010-02-01 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Am 01.02.2010 08:56, schrieb Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR): NaviPOWM http://sourceforge.net/projects/navipowm/ stellt nur Vektordaten dar. Die OSM-Daten müssen in das eigene MAP-Format gewandelt werden (1°x1° pro Datei). GermanyPlus wird sogar täglich neu berechnet. Danke. Habe ich mir

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Johann H. Addicks wrote: Willkommen in Pseudoanglesien! handy=yes Bye Frederik ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread C. Brause
Alexander Matheisen schrieb: Am Freitag 29 Januar 2010 19:36:34 schrieb Martin Czarkowski: Hi, gefällt mir gut, allerdings sind die Marker jetzt genau über dem Gebäudesymbol, dh. man sieht jetzt die Restaurant- bzw. Bankensymbole usw. nicht mehr. Wahrscheinlich werden dieselben

Re: [Talk-de] Vektorkarten auf Windows-CE/Mobile?

2010-02-01 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Am 01.02.2010 08:56, schrieb Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR): NaviPOWM http://sourceforge.net/projects/navipowm/ stellt nur Vektordaten dar. Die OSM-Daten müssen in das eigene MAP-Format gewandelt werden (1°x1° pro Datei). GermanyPlus wird sogar täglich neu

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:46:49AM +0100, Johann H. Addicks wrote: drive thru bitte! British oder American English? Ich haette gerne colour und through ... Sind ja nicht beim Hip Hop Battle ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de Es ist ein

[Talk-de] Sternchen / Re: OpenLinkMap

2010-02-01 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Samstag, 16. Januar 2010 schrieb Alexander Matheisen: manche von euch kennen die OpenLinkMap vielleicht schon Hallo Alexander, danke für dieses vielversprechende Projekt, das ich bisher noch nicht kannte. Verstehe ich es richtig, dass die Weltkugeln Wikipedia-Links kennzeichnen und die

[Talk-de] [Fwd: MDR-Beitrag Lücken bei GPS und Auto-Navis]

2010-02-01 Thread Christian Hartnick
Hallo liebe Mitstreiter, ich habe diesmal eine Anfrage von Herrn Erbe, der für den MDR recherchiert. Das Thema (s.u.) war ja schon öfter in Diskussion auf der ML. Bitte helft dem Mann - hier können wir ja ein bisschen glänzen. Grüße Christian (OSM Presse) Original-Nachricht

Re: [Talk-de] Vektorkarten auf Windows-CE/Mobile?

2010-02-01 Thread geo.osm
Hi, vielleicht interessiert dich ja das Programm Gosmore http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gosmore Hat auch nen Routing integriert. Allerdings ist die Benutzerfreundlichkeit nicht gerade hoch angesiedelt. Und ich glaub da ist auch schon ne Weile nix mehr passiert. Bin ich mir aber nicht

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 30.01.2010 12:07, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 10:27:34 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi ! kann mir einer sage warum die Wiki vom Holstentor nicht angezeigt wird ? http://olm.openstreetmap.de/?zoom=17lat=53.86616lon=10.67981layers=B0TTT Hab da wohl etwas von Mitja

Re: [Talk-de] Sternchen / Re: OpenLinkMap

2010-02-01 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 13:46:00 schrieb RalfGesellensetter: Am Samstag, 16. Januar 2010 schrieb Alexander Matheisen: manche von euch kennen die OpenLinkMap vielleicht schon Hallo Alexander, danke für dieses vielversprechende Projekt, das ich bisher noch nicht kannte. Verstehe ich es

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 14:31:27 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 30.01.2010 12:07, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 10:27:34 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi ! kann mir einer sage warum die Wiki vom Holstentor nicht angezeigt wird ?

Re: [Talk-de] Vektorkarten auf Windows-CE/Mobile?

2010-02-01 Thread Torsten Breda
Am 1. Februar 2010 02:06 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Hallo, Welches der vielen Programme zur Darstellung von Offline-OSM-Karten beherrscht Vektordarstellung? Du kannst dir mal die Übersicht unter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones anschauen (falls noch

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread malenki
Bernd Wurst schrieb: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 08:28:42 schrieb Michael Kugelmann: Meine Lösung: drive-in_counter == yes Finde ich jetzt intuitiv viel zu kompliziert. Ich würde davon ausgehen, dass es auch einen kürzeren, prägnanteren Begriff gibt, den die natives für den Zweck wählen würden.

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 11:23:21 schrieb C. Brause: Alexander Matheisen schrieb: Am Freitag 29 Januar 2010 19:36:34 schrieb Martin Czarkowski: Hi, gefällt mir gut, allerdings sind die Marker jetzt genau über dem Gebäudesymbol, dh. man sieht jetzt die Restaurant- bzw. Bankensymbole

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 14:59:29 schrieb malenki: drive-through=counter drive-through=[andere mögliche Werte, die mir Landei nicht einfallen ;)] Mir fallen zwar auch keine anderen ein, aber wenn es welche gäbe und es gäbe sie am selben Objekt, dann muss man schon wieder einen

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread malenki
Bernd Wurst schrieb: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 14:59:29 schrieb malenki: drive-through=counter drive-through=[andere mögliche Werte, die mir Landei nicht einfallen ;)] Mir fallen zwar auch keine anderen ein, aber wenn es welche gäbe und es gäbe sie am selben Objekt, dann muss man schon wieder

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 15:22:50 schrieb malenki: Ich meinte nicht, dass man mehrere Eigenschaften zugleich hineinschreiben soll. Das war als ODER gedacht. Ansonsten könnte man mit der gleichen Argumentation alle highway=* tags bis auf einen einstampfen :) Eine Straße ist selten in sich von

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread C. Brause
Vermutlich gibt es auch vorher noch zwei Fragen: 1. Was soll die OLM anzeigen?/Welche Funktion hat sie? (Standardfrage) 2. Was passiert, wenn die Links sich so häufen, dass sie sich gegenseitig überlagern und es unübersichtlich wird? Ich persönlich halte die OLM für eine Karte, die Funktionen

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Am 01.02.2010 14:41, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 14:31:27 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 30.01.2010 12:07, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 10:27:34 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi ! kann mir einer sage warum die Wiki vom Holstentor nicht angezeigt

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 1. Februar 2010 11:55 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: British oder American English? Ich haette gerne colour und through ... Sind ja nicht beim Hip Hop Battle ... +1. countre für den Schaltre gibt's wohl allerdings nicht. ;-) Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread Max Andre
Am 01.02.2010 15:29, schrieb Bernd Wurst: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 15:22:50 schrieb malenki: Ich meinte nicht, dass man mehrere Eigenschaften zugleich hineinschreiben soll. Das war als ODER gedacht. Ansonsten könnte man mit der gleichen Argumentation alle highway=* tags bis auf einen

[Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-01 Thread Mitja Kleider
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: bhhh - was wird da denn alles geschaufelt Alle Änderungen der OSM-Datenbank in ganz Europa von einer ganzen Woche werden mit osmosis geladen. Die Datenbank ist auch für andere Projekte gedacht. Am Ende die Spezialtabelle für Links zu generieren dauert nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-01 Thread malenki
Max Andre schrieb: Naja, ob es da soviel unterscheidliches gibt, ich weiß ja nicht so recht. Ich denke mit drive-through=yes erschlagen wir alles. Ob es sich dabei um einen Geldautomaten oder eine Mc-Doof Drive-In handelt wird aus dem Kontext klar. ...stimmt auch wieder

Re: [Talk-de] Logger gesucht

2010-02-01 Thread Fabian
er will aber einen _langen_ urlaub loggen aber von denen gibts auch SD-karten logger zb http://www.transystem.com.tw/products/index_detail.php?mcat_no=2cat_no=33pno=56ver=en logger uebersicht http://www.transystem.com.tw/products/index_list.php?mcat_no=2cat_no=33ver=en Stephan Knauss wrote:

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