[talk-ph] didn't expected to see this on the map

2010-02-02 Thread maning sambale
Yep, didn't expect it to be there. http://osm.org/go/4zhBlcuB But it's already in the map. :D -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog:

[OSM-talk-be] an belgian OpenStreetMap group

2010-02-02 Thread Olivier Coppin
FRANÇAIS Bonjour, Je vous contacte dans le but de créer un groupe du style GULL (Groupe d’Utilisateur de Logiciel Libre)(http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GULL) mais orienté OpenStreetMap. Ce groupe permettrait d’avoir un ensemble de contributeurs qui s’organisent pour par exemple : créer

Re: [OSM-talk-be] an belgian OpenStreetMap group

2010-02-02 Thread eMerzh
Hello... Comme dit précédemment par mail je suis vraiment partant :) je pense que c'est une bonne chose pour OSM ... 2010/2/2 Olivier Coppin oliviercop...@gmail.com FRANÇAIS Bonjour, Je vous contacte dans le but de créer un groupe du style GULL (Groupe d’Utilisateur de Logiciel

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-02 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Looks like my edits there. I will resolve the conflict. I have cut out the overlapping areas, if you look at yahoosat, you will see streets missing from the immap data. We have a team in Gjakova, will ask them to review. thanks, mike On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Rob r...@robreid.co.nz wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-02 Thread Rob
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Looks like my edits there. I will resolve the conflict. I have cut out the overlapping areas, if you look at yahoosat, you will see streets missing from the immap data. We have a team in Gjakova, will ask them to review. thanks, mike Thanks for

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and dont know what to do, help out with the Kosovo and Albania project

2010-02-02 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
If you want to upload them, and mark them as fixmes we will review them. thanks! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Rob r...@robreid.co.nz wrote: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Looks like my edits there. I will resolve the conflict. I have cut out the overlapping areas, if you look at

Re: [OSM-talk] If you want to help with OSM, and don t know what to do , help out with the Kosovo and Alba nia project

2010-02-02 Thread Liz
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, Rob wrote: A quick google translate of http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqeni_i_Radoniqit tells me that lake is manmade so I guess the iMMAP road data may pre-date the creation of the lake. One of the guys went hiking there two days ago so we will have a local with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Philip Homburg
All this is true, but I think we are too concentrated on generating content (i.e. mapping) as opposed to actually using this data for some meaningful purpose. I guess this is natural, since majority of OSM users are mostly map data producers, and only the minority is actively involved in

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hi, You make this sound as if this is about the freedom of the new mappers. But they are, even today, free to follow any ruleset, cheatsheet, or book that they want to use. It's just that they don't get a guarantee that everyone else is using the same ruleset but that's ok - there might be

[OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
Hi With XAPI V0.5 i had the possiblity to query all edits i am responsible for with: http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*[osm:user=XYZ]. With XAPI V0.6 this query (http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*[osm:user=XYZ]) leads to a header only OSM data file. Other queries like

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Hi! Kai Krueger wrote: Interesting. I think that could also be spun positively ;-) It means people in the industry are starting to take OSM seriously and actually invest money to evaluate how far it has come and be prepared for when it does reach a sufficient quality or need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: The commercial maps have fixed tagging schemes, minimum quality standards and only accept trained personnel as mappers. They have long turnaround times and cost a lot of money to maintain. At OSM we have no fixed tagging schema, no minimum quality standards,

Re: [OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?

2010-02-02 Thread 80n
Try /api/0.6/*...@user=xyz]. It changed a while back but looks like the docs didn't get updated. I've now done that. 80n On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Martin nomorebigf...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi With XAPI V0.5 i had the possiblity to query all edits i am responsible for with:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Hi! Ulf Lamping wrote: Am 01.02.2010 20:03, schrieb Frederik Ramm: I don't see how you could have the advantages without the disadvantages. Add a fixed tagging scheme and peer review to OSM and you get more quality but less data and longer turnaround times; before long you are TeleAtlas

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Mike N.
So as I stated above, I don't think the _main_ problem at the moment is the anarchistic tagging, but still too limited coverage, especially on tagging relevant for routing. Again, this is not how the company put it. The evaluation failed due to the tagging, so even a full coverage with

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Igor Brejc
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I don't think that will make the we need fixed rules fraction happy. We have renderers with fixed rules today - several of them - but that kind of fixed rules is not what they are looking for. Just to make it clear:

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 2 February 2010 21:26, NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: That's not quite the way they put it. They evaluated it in order not to miss a major development there, but concluded that it is no alternative and dropped the idea of using it for good. Can they describe a suitable tagging scheme that

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread 80n
2010/2/1 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es El Lunes, 1 de Febrero de 2010, 80n escribió: It is right that we are all concentrating on creation of content. But, what we haven't had yet is any commercial map data consumers telling us what they need. Well, in a way, maybe Nav4All

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: It is my honest belief that if all those fixed-rule-enthusiasts had their way, OSM would become uninteresting, mappers reduced to drones filling out forms that other people have provided for them. It might become more commercially viable (with businesses

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Richard Fairhurst wrote: It's beginning to happen already. As OSM's data structures (principally creative and unexpected uses of relations) and tags become more complex, and as the project expands beyond the initial audience of geeks, the editing tools are inevitably starting to

Re: [OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
Hi 80n Great job! Thanks. It also works here: http://toolserver.org/~kolossos/osm/index.php?way=%40user%3DXYZnode=relation=bbox=description=output=osm Martin On 02.02.2010 12:37, 80n wrote: Try /api/0.6/*...@user=xyz]. It changed a while back but looks like the docs didn't get updated.

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
NopMap wrote: Is there any initiative to make sure the different editors use the same tags for the same thing? If so, I missed it completely. Not formally, but certainly when deciding which presets to use in Potlatch I'll look at the other editor presets; at tools like OSMdoc and Tagwatch;

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Chris Hill
NopMap wrote: Hi! A consistent, easy-to-use set of tags would spare mappers from spending time trying to figure out how to do something that has been figured out many times before or which contradictive information to follow. As I map a road I've not visited before, I don't consider

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/2 NopMap ekkeh...@gmx.de: It becomes rather disillusioning when they find out how things really are. Most do not want to search wikis, read through discussion backlogs, design new tags, decide between contradictive tool presets, join meta discussions about the meaning of voting, ask

Re: [OSM-talk] please revert two changesets

2010-02-02 Thread malenki
malenki wrote: An import I did yesterday failed. Would somebody be so kind to revert these changesets: 3760931 3763181 Since nobody answered and with revert.pl I recieved only http #500 I cleaned up using Josm. malenki ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I read very often about this, and am asking myself: why is noone proposing / offering such a catalogue? It would be simple as that: set up a catalogue with all your definitions and publish it for newbies to be used. Oh, and update it say on a daily basis ;-) My

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/2 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: wanting to stamp out creativity and replace it by a fixed rule set decided by a majority of 10 to 9 wiki fiddlers. might be partially true, but by discriminating everybody who tries to document stuff in the wiki (AFAIK the wiki is the main source to

Re: [OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?

2010-02-02 Thread Margie Roswell
Hi, Where are the docs for this? Thanks, Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:37 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Try /api/0.6/*...@user=xyz]. It changed a while back but looks like the docs didn't get updated.  I've now done that. 80n On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin
Hi Here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmxapi#Tags Welcome. Martin Margie Roswell wrote: Hi, Where are the docs for this? Thanks, Margie ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: I will confess to being very disappointed that JOSM has now adopted the retarded why-use-one-tag-when-eighty-three-will-do cycleway scheme. So you seriously think highway=cycleway is all that's needed to describe

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Margie Roswell
This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28,

[OSM-talk] Playing tagging democracy: standard building process and tag unifying towards it

2010-02-02 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hello everyone, I am new to the OSM community, sorry if my suggestions are totally naïve. Fact: The collective end product is rendered somehow, and the renderer stylesheets decide, how to interprete tags. So it seems to me, that creating 2 things is necessary: 1.: We need a process of

Re: [OSM-talk] Playing tagging democracy: standard building process and tag unifying towards it

2010-02-02 Thread Claudius
Am 02.02.2010 22:24, Jochen Plumeyer: Hello everyone, I am new to the OSM community, sorry if my suggestions are totally naïve. Fact: The collective end product is rendered somehow, and the renderer stylesheets decide, how to interprete tags. So it seems to me, that creating 2 things is

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
More tips and tricks on getting wiki pages better fit for printing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Printable Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the

Re: [OSM-talk] Playing tagging democracy: standard building process and tag unifying towards it

2010-02-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
Claudius, You made an excellent statement I completely agree with! For a lot of us, the fun comes in when you can take this pile of beautiful and divers geodata and create your own map styles. You can even create maps of specific objects and types. Jochen; Consider looking at the beatiful

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Margie Roswell
Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Milo van der Linden
For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs You can get the individual tabs printable by adding the parameter,

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Margie Roswell
today I was trying to print the xapi documentation. I haven't printed it, but when I look in preview (same with the JOSM documentation) things are cut off just as they were before, both with and without the printable parameter. I'm not enthusiastic about moving everything over to a different

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 06:13, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: What's with the wiki-fiddler hatred? (not just you, Richard, in general) All those people advocating for a consistent/enforced/limited tagging scheme - how do you think such a scheme should be produced? The big problem with

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Roy Wallace wrote: Richard Fairhurst wrote: I will confess to being very disappointed that JOSM has now adopted the retarded why-use-one-tag-when-eighty-three-will-do cycleway scheme. So you seriously think highway=cycleway is all that's needed to describe the various flavours of

Re: [OSM-talk] Playing tagging democracy: standard building process and tag unifying towards it

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 07:45, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Just a sidenote: Although it seems to be the showcase of OSM the mapnik rendering at www.openstreetmap.org is *NOT* what OSM is about. OSM is No but it's a carrot, most people most of the time are only going to map what they can see

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
Milo van der Linden wrote: For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs Have you actually tried printing it

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 02.02.2010 14:32, schrieb Chris Hill: As I map a road I've not visited before, I don't consider using highway=street_with_houses, I add highway=residential . If I see a road sign with a speed limit I add maxspeed=30mph, not restriction:speed=30mph or legal_constraint_on_speed=30mph. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Essentially, you tag according to the duck test - if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_test). This saves you all the work of describing the species every time. If actually it's a rare Outer

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/02/10 22:42, Margie Roswell wrote: In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be addressed? There is no backend to the site (well not that should need to be edited anyway). The style information all comes either from

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Someoneelse
Frederik Ramm wrote: [lots of helpful information] Thanks for that - very useful. And legal-talk is - that way. Well, routing was one of the things mentioned previously... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Richard, Richard Fairhurst wrote: I will confess to being very disappointed that JOSM has now adopted the retarded why-use-one-tag-when-eighty-three-will-do cycleway scheme. I don't know how this has changed over time, but the current version of JOSM has Dedicated cycleway = highway=cycleway

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread NopMap
Hi! Frederik Ramm wrote: Nobody is truly interested in helping newbies, that's just a fig leaf for wanting to stamp out creativity and replace it by a fixed rule set decided by a majority of 10 to 9 wiki fiddlers. That's a very dire view on the motivations of the community. In

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: You're all right when it comes to common stuff, that's documented in Map Features and may already exist in the presets of JOSM/Potlatch. But that's the easy part. The hassle begins, when you come to a topic where this isn't the case. But this thread started with

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, NopMap wrote: In contrast, I believe that there actually are people who try to listen to the sorrows of (potential) newcomers and want to lower the learning curve. Way too few, though. Fixed tagging rules are not needed to lower the learning curve. I have the highest regard for someone

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 09:32, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: It can't be the murky details of cycleways and bridleways because the commercial providers don't have that, or if they have it then only in selected areas. It can't be highway=path and all that because they don't have it. It

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 03.02.2010 00:32, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: You're all right when it comes to common stuff, that's documented in Map Features and may already exist in the presets of JOSM/Potlatch. But that's the easy part. The hassle begins, when you come to a topic where this isn't

[OSM-talk] OSM keeps the commercial mapping companies from being stagnant...

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
TomTom promising daily map updates In an exclusive article [in German], the German business magazine WiWo (Wirtschaftswoche) quotes TomTom CEO Harold Goddin: „Bis Ende des Jahres werden wir alle ein bis zwei Tage aktualisierte Karten zum Download anbieten“ (German original) Until end of 2010 we'll

Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki

2010-02-02 Thread Grant Slater
will get it updated in a few days. Just catching up on work. / Grant On 2 February 2010 23:16, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 02/02/10 22:42, Margie Roswell wrote: In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Ulf Lamping
Am 03.02.2010 00:38, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, NopMap wrote: In contrast, I believe that there actually are people who try to listen to the sorrows of (potential) newcomers and want to lower the learning curve. Way too few, though. Fixed tagging rules are not needed to lower the learning

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ulf Lamping wrote: In contrast, I believe that there actually are people who try to listen to the sorrows of (potential) newcomers and want to lower the learning curve. Way too few, though. Fixed tagging rules are not needed to lower the learning curve. Could you please explain this?

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: If you want to help newcomers, then make a list of features that are rendered on the map, and write a nice tutorial explaining them, ... What is so hard about this? Forgive me for jumping in...but I think the hard part

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Multiple Services to a Company/Building

2010-02-02 Thread Ian Mc Shane
Hello Roy, private banking services private_banking_services=yes foreign exchange foreign_exchange=yes tanning tanning=yes massage? massage=yes Yes that would do the job... I asked a friend of mine what his thoughts were and following are the results of our debate. Note that I am

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Multiple Services to a Company/Building

2010-02-02 Thread Roy Wallace
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Ian Mc Shane ianmcsh...@live.co.za wrote: 1)  Do you want all that detail? Yes please :) For example a town/suburb website using OSM data for geo-location of businesses in the area would have their own database of what each business provides in terms of

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Nav4All navigation shut down by Navteq

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: Essentially, you tag according to the duck test - if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck 'highway=cycleway' is just like this. It's a meaningful object. It means a path with physical

Re: [OSM-talk] New Video Tutorial: Presets in Potlatch

2010-02-02 Thread Margie Roswell
I admit to being disappointed in viewership on this one. Can anyone help to get the word out about this video? Thanks! Margie On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another new video tutorial: OSM Tutorial - Using the Keyboard to Save Presets in

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Multiple Services to a Company/Building

2010-02-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Ian Mc Shane ianmcsh...@live.co.za wrote: private banking services private_banking_services=yes foreign exchange foreign_exchange=yes tanning tanning=yes massage? massage=yes

[OSM-talk-nl] detail omgeving oldenzaal

2010-02-02 Thread Michiel Faber
Hallo, Net keek ik toevallig op de kaart in de omgeving Oldenzaal. De kaart daar is echt super! Hoe nauwkeurig hij is, weet ik niet, maar dat het grondgebruik ook gemapped is, is ongelofelijk. Ik zou graag willen weten wie dat heeft gedaan en ook hoe. Ik heb (hopelijke) komende 2 maanden weinig

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] detail omgeving oldenzaal

2010-02-02 Thread Michiel Faber
stegg...@steggink.org wrote: De import wordt gecoördineerd door Ldp, maar verschillende anderen voeren de import uit, en ook eventuele opschoonacties (verwijderen overlappende gebouwen, dubbele nodes, etc.). Groeten, Frank [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3dShapes Ik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Huidige status van NL kaarten

2010-02-02 Thread YRS
Rob schreef: Op 1 februari 2010 23:34 heeft YRS jav...@hccnet.nl het volgende geschreven: Bram Duvigneau schreef: On 1-2-2010 11:20, Lambertus wrote: Volgens mij is OpenStreetMap in principe een natuurlijke bondgenoot voor mensen met een (visuele) handicap. Vrijwel alles is opensource en naar

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread Arie Paap
Thank you, Arie. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread Richard Colless
This could have been an accident, not malicious damage. When I was editing streets in my home suburb, mainly just adding in street names, I needed to cut a street at a node because it changes its name. Somewhere along the way, the street disappeared. When I edited it (using Potlatch), the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread David Murn
Something similar happened in my region recently, someone new to josm managed to turn a park around 100m across into a 2km diameter circle, and mangled the ways nearby. A quick email to the user revealed he was new to josm and wasnt even aware of what he had done. Fortunately the mess was easily

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Most of Busselton deleted

2010-02-02 Thread Arie Paap
I have also sent a message to the user regarding what happened and some links to help on editing. In this particular case a large number of ways were deleted (as you can see from the changeset) and reverting seemed to me the best way to fix up the damage to the map. Arie On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at

[talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread John Henderson
The thread on unintentional damage is timely. I find I may have deleted a way. I was cleaning up duplicated ways, and may have deleted too much in JOSM and then saved the result. I suspect that the gap in the foot track at this location might be my doing:

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread Arie Paap
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: The thread on unintentional damage is timely. I find I may have deleted a way. I was cleaning up duplicated ways, and may have deleted too much in JOSM and then saved the result. I suspect that the gap in the foot track

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread John Henderson
Arie Paap wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:32 AM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: The thread on unintentional damage is timely. I find I may have deleted a way. I was cleaning up duplicated ways, and may have deleted too much in JOSM and then saved the result. I suspect that the gap

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 February 2010 16:45, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I just tread very carefully in JOSM, tentatively deleting ways to see if there's another underneath, and restoring needed things again with ctrl-Z. You don't need to delete something to see if there is a way underneath, just select

Re: [talk-au] How to undo saved edits?

2010-02-02 Thread John Henderson
John Smith wrote: You don't need to delete something to see if there is a way underneath, just select the mid point and shift it on the top way, then hit ctrl+z if you need to undo the point creation/removal. An excellent point, and a much neater way of managing things. I've finished

Re: [Talk-br] Pardais

2010-02-02 Thread Flavio Bello Fialho
Eu sei que pelo menos alguns aparelhos Garmin poderiam usar a informação para avisar sobe pardais. Já vi sites que disponibilizam listas de pardais para usar nesses aparelhos. Será que haveria como fazer um patch no mkgmap ou fazer algum outro script para que possamos usar a informação do OSM

Re: [Talk-br] Pardais

2010-02-02 Thread Rodrigo Avila
Em 2 de fevereiro de 2010 10:15, Flavio Bello Fialho be...@cnpuv.embrapa.br escreveu: Eu sei que pelo menos alguns aparelhos Garmin poderiam usar a informação para avisar sobe pardais. Já vi sites que disponibilizam listas de pardais para usar nesses aparelhos. Será que haveria como fazer um

Re: [Talk-de] Neuling mit vielen Fragen.

2010-02-02 Thread Bernd Wurst
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 18:08:44 schrieb Heinz-Jürgen Schymura: mit der Begründung mail.atekon.de verwendet ein ungültiges Sicherheitszertifikat. und dem weiteren Text Das Zertifikat gilt nur für sirius.lasnet.de.. Die ganzen Ausführungen zu CAcert und ob man dem vertrauen will in allen

Re: [Talk-de] mapgen.pl

2010-02-02 Thread Gary G:
moin, der maßstab ergibt sich aus den min/max werten im osm file und der anzahl der pixel in der x achse, die man ja angeben kann. alles aus dem file wird gerendert. ich habe auch schon drüber nachgedacht, nur teile zu rendern. - einmal wollte ich ein paar pixel am rand weglassen, wegen

[Talk-de] wie taggen? mehrere shops in einem Geschaeft

2010-02-02 Thread Fabian
nimmt man eine node (bzw ein building) und taggt mit ';' getrennt oder IMHO nich so schoen n-nodes mit je einem feature. beispiele sind sowas wie die beliebten Postaemter in Zeitschriftenladen. Hermes Versand im Tabakladen, Bahnfahrkarten im Kiosk. ___

[Talk-de] Worldfile vom 29.1.10

2010-02-02 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hallo, die neuen Daten liegen wenn auch verspätet wieder zum Download bereit unter: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Computerteddy -- Viele Gruesse Computerteddy ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] wie taggen? mehrere shops in einem Geschaeft

2010-02-02 Thread Lothar Emmerich
Zum gleichen Thema gab es schon eine Frage am 29.Dez.09: Wie taggt man einen Gemischtwarenladen? Hilft Dir vielleicht weiter. Gruß Lothar Am 02.02.2010 um 10:41 schrieb Fabian: nimmt man eine node (bzw ein building) und taggt mit ';' getrennt oder IMHO nich so schoen n-nodes mit je einem

Re: [Talk-de] Autoschalter

2010-02-02 Thread Guenther Meyer
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 08:52:30AM +0100, Stefan Popp wrote: Am 01.02.2010 20:45, schrieb Guenther Meyer: wie waers mit sowas wie drive-through = only oder services = drive_through_only? Bei services = * sehe ich Verwechslungsgefahr mit highway = services (

Re: [Talk-de] Logger im Selbstbau? (was: Logger gesucht)

2010-02-02 Thread hdietze42
Hi, - Original Nachricht Von: Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Datum: 02.02.2010 01:09 Betreff: [Talk-de] Logger im Selbstbau? (was: Logger gesucht) Was mich noch interessieren würde, ob jemand dem Modul RDR-3200 [1] von Royaltek noch einen

[Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Czarkowski
Hi, wir haben hier ein kleines Problemchen: in einer Gemeinde in Niederbayern werden die Straßennamen auf den Schildern einmal ausgeschrieben Friedhofstraße und am Ende der gleichen Str. steht auf dem Schild Friedhofstr. Weiteres Beispiel Ringstraße und Ringstr. Soll man nun die lange- oder

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread Dieter Jasper
Am 02.02.2010 14:59, schrieb Martin Czarkowski: Hi, wir haben hier ein kleines Problemchen: in einer Gemeinde in Niederbayern werden die Straßennamen auf den Schildern einmal ausgeschrieben Friedhofstraße und am Ende der gleichen Str. steht auf dem Schild Friedhofstr. Weiteres Beispiel

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread Bartosz Fabianowski
Ich persönlich bin immer für die Langversion. Im Prinzip ist es aber egal - es läuft eh periodisch ein Skript über die Karte das -str. und -strasse in -straße umwandelt. Früher oder später wird also automatisch eine Langversion daraus werden. Gruß, - bartosz

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 2. Februar 2010 15:06 schrieb Dieter Jasper dieter_jas...@web.de: Ich persönlich tendiere immer zu der Langversion. Wie sind die Meinungen? Martin Ist schon mal diskutiert worden. Langversion ist sicher besser. +1 In den name-tag sollte der Name eingetragen werden, nicht buchstabengetreu

Re: [Talk-de] Bitte zwei Changesets revertieren

2010-02-02 Thread malenki
malenki schrieb: Gestern wurde ein Import nicht komplett hochgeladen, so dass jetzt jede Menge einzelner Nodes herumliegen. Da sich niemenad gemeldet hat und revert.pl nur http #500 brachte, habe ich die leeren Nodes mit Josm aufgeräumt. (Upload läuft noch) malenki

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread malenki
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: Am 2. Februar 2010 15:06 schrieb Dieter Jasper dieter_jas...@web.de: Ich persönlich tendiere immer zu der Langversion. Wie sind die Meinungen? Ist schon mal diskutiert worden. Langversion ist sicher besser. +1 In den name-tag sollte der Name eingetragen werden,

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 16:40:13 schrieb Mitja Kleider: Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: bhhh - was wird da denn alles geschaufelt Alle Änderungen der OSM-Datenbank in ganz Europa von einer ganzen Woche werden mit osmosis geladen. Die Datenbank ist auch für andere Projekte gedacht.

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 17:56:08 schrieb Bernd Wurst: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 16:40:13 schrieb Mitja Kleider: Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: bhhh - was wird da denn alles geschaufelt Alle Änderungen der OSM-Datenbank in ganz Europa von einer ganzen Woche werden mit osmosis

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 20:34:54 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 30.01.2010 11:57, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 10:47:43 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi ! wäre es nicht sinnvoll noch www.openlinkmap.org zu realisieren ? Dazu müsste man eine Domain registrieren

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 15:46:05 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 01.02.2010 14:41, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 14:31:27 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Am 30.01.2010 12:07, schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Samstag 30 Januar 2010 10:27:34 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Hi !

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread 1248
Alexander Matheisen wrote: Zum Beispiel meine neueste Idee: Die OpenRaucherMap: zeigt für ganz Deutschland Zigarettenautomaten und Raucherkneipen an, natürlich immer mit Warnhinweisen wie Raucher sterben früher ;-) Das paßt ja zu folgendem proposal ;)

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Dienstag 02 Februar 2010 16:00:14 schrieb 1248: Alexander Matheisen wrote: Zum Beispiel meine neueste Idee: Die OpenRaucherMap: zeigt für ganz Deutschland Zigarettenautomaten und Raucherkneipen an, natürlich immer mit Warnhinweisen wie Raucher sterben früher ;-) Das paßt ja zu

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Am Montag 01 Februar 2010 15:41:26 schrieb C. Brause: Vermutlich gibt es auch vorher noch zwei Fragen: 1. Was soll die OLM anzeigen?/Welche Funktion hat sie? (Standardfrage) 2. Was passiert, wenn die Links sich so häufen, dass sie sich gegenseitig überlagern und es unübersichtlich wird? Dann

Re: [Talk-de] Straßenname kurz oder lang?

2010-02-02 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo, Dieter Jasper schrieb: Langversion ist sicher besser. aber die Langform sollte sich nur auf Abkürzungen wie str. etc beziehen. Eine D.-Martin-Luther-Straße sollte m.E. nicht plötzlich zur Doktor-Martin-Luther-Straße werden. Gruß, Stefan ___

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarenders eingebaute pattern anpassen

2010-02-02 Thread Mirko Küster
Wie du siehst, muss jeder SVG-Befehl mit svg: ergänzt werden. Um die gleiche Darstellungsgröße der Symbole mit der Füllung zu erreichen, muss der Wert [1] dem Wert [2] im Kopf der Style-Datei entsprechen: Soweit war ich schon, hatte auch gepasst. Die Objekte waren aber in der Fläche

Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap umgezogen

2010-02-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Alexander Matheisen wrote: Ich persönlich halte die OLM für eine Karte, die Funktionen hat, die in jede normale Karte im Netz gehört. Somit könnte man sie eigentlich, leicht überarbeitet, als Hauptkarte bei OSM übernehmen. (persönliche Meinung) Die Links dürften dann aber nur Zusatz

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