[talk-ph] edits around Buenavista, Marinduque

2010-02-21 Thread maning sambale
Just found out today, that Buenavista in Marinduque is getting some love. http://osm.org/go/4yzegLrS- mostly made by user: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Ubacher http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3732907 -- cheers, maning --

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Liz
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: I've posted a design concept with description and invitation for feedback here: http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg Yours c. Steve I was saddened to see infighting on the blog comments. I haven't seen nor heard of a front

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Sam Vekemans
One idea is to leverage IRC power, by having an international channel, where any language is permitted. And people can respond live translate, and people can get their answer. Having this IRC weblink directly on the feedback box will help a great deal. Many have abandoned this talk@ list

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
openstreetbugs is basically there but has a crappy UI. It needs to be 1) click 'feedback' or 'problem' 2) enter problem 3) click ok ok and then? who will pick it up and fix it? look at openstreetbugs and most could be closed right away. the feedback from most people is useless. a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/02/10 07:16, SteveC wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: SteveC wrote: http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg Whatever merits the (external, commercial) uservoice.com service might have, I am extremely sceptical about using it for

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: SteveC wrote: Wrong. Map bugs. Did you read my post Fred ? :-) So you meant to integrate uservoice.com instead of integrating openstreetbugs? But can their system tie notes to map locations? Well I'll go

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, SteveC wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: ... openstreetbugs is basically there but has a crappy UI. It needs to be Fixing openstreetbugs crappy ui and integrating it into the main page seems like the better way to go in this case rather

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Tom Hughes
On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to use if we can expose a simple

[OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
Hi, I use a 'distribution based on Debian Lenny', 'Ubuntu Karmic 9.10' and 'a distribution based on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04'. When I photo map I take some photos which I later synchronise with a GPS trace, to know with the most precision where I had taken the photos. I would like to put the lat long

Re: [OSM-talk] Inquiry about Egnos / Indoor mapping

2010-02-21 Thread Aun Johnsen
Yes, EGNOS is live, free, reliable, and all of that. Coverage are limited to Europe (similarly WAAS is available in the US, and I think also Canada and Northern Mexico) and a similar system in Japan (don't remember name). EGNOS require clear view of the sky in the same way that the GPS needs,

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Sebastian Klein
Niklas Cholmkvist wrote: When I photo map I take some photos which I later synchronise with a GPS trace, to know with the most precision where I had taken the photos. I would like to put the lat long data right into the JPEG images though. There are plenty of tools to do this: *

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: ok and then? who will pick it up and fix it? look at openstreetbugs and most could be closed right away. the feedback from most people is useless. a comment footways are missing in this park doesn't help much if there is no experienced mapper willing to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 February 2010 21:35, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Now we can either adopt a free-for-all approach where we encourage everyone to leave their feedback without spending 10 seconds on understanding how this map is generated, and then have a lot of work in post-processing

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Chris Hill
SteveC wrote: 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to use if we can expose a simple bug system. It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
I would like to put the lat long data right into the JPEG images though. I don't know how to use gpsbabel or any other program to integrate the lat lon in the EXIF part of the photos. I can use the commandline if it is required or if there are a few simple commands. Maybe a command

[OSM-talk] Annotated Haiti video

2010-02-21 Thread Yves Moisan
Hi All, I watched the OSM animation [1] showing edit activity a few days before and a couple of weeks after the earthquake. It's great ! However, I think some sort of factual annotations (voice or maybe superimposed images ?) would be very helpful to convey how useful the edits were. What

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Funnell
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: ... It's very clear that nobody can convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, but he doesn't give a shit and lives on a boat in bliss. That's his

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-21 Thread d8930
Hi, I am working on this as well. However, for testing I am using a point that lies in the German city of Wiesbaden-Naurod. This city has the geocoordinates 8.301388 / 50.13472. When I transform it by SELECT astext(ST_Transform(ST_SetSRID(ST_MakePoint(8.301388,50.13472), 4326), 900913)) I get the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM2PQSQL / PostGis: Coordinate Conversion

2010-02-21 Thread Jon Burgess
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 08:19 -0800, d8930 wrote: Hi, I am working on this as well. However, for testing I am using a point that lies in the German city of Wiesbaden-Naurod. This city has the geocoordinates 8.301388 / 50.13472. When I transform it by SELECT

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
Sam Vekemans wrote: Many have abandoned this talk@ list because IRC is more efficient. Only if you want to talk to people either in your own time zone or are night workers. Talk@ communicates ideas with all people all over the globe. Cheers Dave F.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
Apollinaris Schoell wrote: ok and then? who will pick it up and fix it? look at openstreetbugs and most could be closed right away. the feedback from most people is useless. a comment footways are missing in this park doesn't help much if there is no experienced mapper willing to survey.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
SteveC wrote: Well I'll go further. openstreetbugs is basically there but has a crappy UI. It needs to be 1) click 'feedback' or 'problem' 2) enter problem 3) click ok the extra step of clicking where the problem is should not happen, we should get that from the bbox or center point

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 01:37, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Streetbugs encourages people to 'get others to do it' when OSM should be encouraging them to 'do it yourself' While it'd be nice if people would fix any problems themselves, I don't think OSM's website is at the point where some

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: openstreetbugs is basically there but has a crappy UI. It needs to be 1) click 'feedback' or 'problem' 2) enter problem 3) click ok ok and then? who will pick it up and fix it? I will. look at openstreetbugs and most could

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:05 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 21/02/10 07:16, SteveC wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: SteveC wrote: http://opengeodata.org/new-design-concept-for-openstreetmaporg Whatever merits the (external, commercial) uservoice.com service might have,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: On 21/02/10 07:38, SteveC wrote: On Feb 20, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: SteveC wrote: Wrong. Map bugs. Did you read my post Fred ? :-) So you meant to integrate uservoice.com instead of integrating openstreetbugs? But can

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
John Smith wrote: On 22 February 2010 01:37, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Streetbugs encourages people to 'get others to do it' when OSM should be encouraging them to 'do it yourself' While it'd be nice if people would fix any problems themselves, I don't think OSM's

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Graham Jones
As there are two sorts of problems - 'easy fix' ones (There is a bank here, This road is Clifton Road, not Clifton Avenue etc.) and the 'hard' ones (this road is also part of NCN Route 17 or there is a road missing here), maybe we need two solutions? OpenStreetBugs is pretty good for the harder

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:15 AM, Kai Krueger wrote: the extra step of clicking where the problem is should not happen, we should get that from the bbox or center point plus zoom. So with some changes I think we can integrate OSB and expose it front and center to help fix up the bugs. Are

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Robert Funnell wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: ... It's very clear that nobody can convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, but he doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Dave F. wrote: How is zooming all the way in repeatedly panning around to centre up, quicker than one click to _accurately_ locate the problem? Hi, you've never done a UI review. http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/UX_and_Usability_Study Money quote: Every

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:49 AM, Chris Hill wrote: SteveC wrote: 2) We have to be very clear that the openstreetmap.org website is _awful_. Horrendous. A total PITA. We're all here because we're persistent with it. But the wonderful thing is - we don't have to make the tools and site easy to

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 66, Issue 47

2010-02-21 Thread Mike Harris
I'm not sure whether this will do what you need - but I think it will. Take a look at Exifer at: http://www.friedemann-schmidt.com/software/exifer/ The program is no longer maintained but I find it works fine for the things I need. It has the advantage of being very simple, low overhead ...

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
SteveC wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Dave F. wrote: How is zooming all the way in repeatedly panning around to centre up, quicker than one click to _accurately_ locate the problem? Hi, you've never done a UI review.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Dave F. wrote: Hi, you've never done a UI review. http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/UX_and_Usability_Study Money quote: Every user in this study struggled to get a basic grasp of the editing interface. Despite users’ overall excitement about

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
SteveC wrote: Oh, please... ...Yawn. That kind of sums you up. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Dave F. wrote: SteveC wrote: Oh, please... ...Yawn. That kind of sums you up. /me prods the troll Yours c. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
Anyone on the outside seeing this won't be inspired to learn to fix any errors people are trying to get fixed... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Dave F.
SteveC wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Dave F. wrote: SteveC wrote: Oh, please... ...Yawn. That kind of sums you up. /me prods the troll I'm a troll because I disagree with you? You're weird. ___ talk mailing

[OSM-talk] Planet, osm2pgsql interruptus, and reclaiming disk space

2010-02-21 Thread Michal Migurski
Hi, I have a problem with osm2pgsql and postgres, I hope someone can point me in the right direction for a fix. I started up a whole-planet osm2pgsql import session from a recent planet dump. While that was going on, the computer had to be rebooted and the process was interrupted. Now I

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet, osm2pgsql interruptus, and reclaiming disk space

2010-02-21 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 10:12 -0800, Michal Migurski wrote: Hi, I have a problem with osm2pgsql and postgres, I hope someone can point me in the right direction for a fix. I started up a whole-planet osm2pgsql import session from a recent planet dump. While that was going on, the

[OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-21 Thread Niklas Cholmkvist
I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? Regards, Niklas -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Dave F. wrote: SteveC wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Dave F. wrote: SteveC wrote: Oh, please... ...Yawn. That kind of sums you up. /me prods the troll I'm a troll because I disagree with you? No, because you live under a bridge with your

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 16:36, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: ... It's very clear that nobody can convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical Potlatch 2 all you want, but he doesn't give a shit and lives on

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 16:36, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: ... It's very clear that nobody can convince Richard to actually write something any muggle would really want to use, you can scream at him to finish the mythical

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi, On Dom 21 Feb 2010, Sebastian Klein wrote: * gpscorrelate- a command line tool, where you specify the gpx file, the images and (optionally) a time offset gpscorrelate: There is as well a graphical user interface if you prefer it - I just can say it works very well, normally I use

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your camera, as GPX times are all in lon=0°/ Greenwich/ UTC/ Zulu time. Actually they are in GPS time, and have an offset in seconds from UTC embedded in

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Barnett, Phillip
GPS time is now 15 secs ahead of UTC, due to ignoring leap seconds implemented since 1980. See http://leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 (0)20 7430 4474 F E phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk http://WWW.ITN.CO.UK P

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet, osm2pgsql interruptus, and reclaiming disk space

2010-02-21 Thread Michal Migurski
On Feb 21, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Jon Burgess wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 10:12 -0800, Michal Migurski wrote: Hi, I have a problem with osm2pgsql and postgres, I hope someone can point me in the right direction for a fix. I started up a whole-planet osm2pgsql import session from a recent

[OSM-talk] 3D OpenStreetMap? (micazook)

2010-02-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, please check out this video and then share your opinion it this is maybe start of 3D OpenStreetMap? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tVcAuNpgk8feature=grec There is also a blog: http://micazook.com/MicaBlogs.mica ps. I'm not involved with micazook.com and have no further info, just stumbled

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi folks, On Dom 21 Feb 2010, SteveC wrote: 1) click 'feedback' or 'problem' 2) enter problem 3) click ok I think an easy feedback system is great. And I like the idea of exposing bugs. For this I think it would be essential to coordinate a bit and prepare in an explicit manner workflows

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? Perhaps. That may vary by router? What is it about these streets that

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-21 Thread Nic Roets
How much traffic do you have and will you get a fine or ticket for choosing the best racing line ? I would like to do something about the related problem of routing through parking areas. But non-convex objects are quite hard to detect and process considering how much data we have. Furthermore, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-21 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.comwrote: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? If it's not a one-way road, routing software should be pretty much fine,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
The problem with your analysis is pretty simple - maybe those people left because the site was crap, not because they inherently don't like adding more than 10 things. Maybe if we make it better, they will add a lot more. On Feb 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: Instead of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 00:09, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The problem with your analysis is pretty simple - maybe those people left because the site was crap, not because they inherently don't like adding more than 10 things. Maybe if we make it better, they will add a lot more. OSM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet, osm2pgsql interruptus, and reclaiming disk space

2010-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 22:45, Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com wrote: I'm hesitant to drop the DB because of some other data stored there, but it's good to know that osm2pgsql doesn't have any other storage squireled away elsewhere. What about something like this:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 21 Feb 2010, at 15:09 , SteveC wrote: The problem with your analysis is pretty simple - maybe those people left because the site was crap, not because they inherently don't like adding more than 10 things. Maybe if we make it better, they will add a lot more. I can't agree or disagree

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/2/21 SteveC st...@asklater.com: Sure. In Germany you have this amazing community where there's a stamptish around every corner. But out here it's much harder and we need these easier tools to build the map. thing is that you can't build a crowd-sourced map when missing the crowd. There

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your camera, as GPX times are all in lon=0°/ Greenwich/ UTC/ Zulu time. Actually they are in GPS time, and

[OSM-talk] cartagena colrut reconocimiento

2010-02-21 Thread diego lesmes
veo este link http://groups.google.com.co/group/colrut-em/browse_thread/thread/f27c4b8bc7ffb029/d776a7d882a7db83?lnk=gstq=cartagena#d776a7d882a7db83 pienso me pareceria justo ellos tuviesen en sus mapas y web una simple cita asi: Algunos datos CCBYSA 2010 por OpenStreetMap.org y

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Andrew Gregory
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:03:40 +1100, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your camera, as GPX times are

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Jochen Plumeyer
Hi again, On Dom 21 Feb 2010, Greg Troxel wrote: John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your camera, as GPX times are all in lon=0°/ Greenwich/

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
Even within your own time zone, IRC only allows you to communicate with people who are online right now, not someone who might log in an hour from now. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. --

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread SteveC
On Feb 21, 2010, at 18:57, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/2/21 SteveC st...@asklater.com: Sure. In Germany you have this amazing community where there's a stamptish around every corner. But out here it's much harder and we need these easier tools to build the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping streets as areas - can I do it now?

2010-02-21 Thread Roy Wallace
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:03 AM, Niklas Cholmkvist towards...@gmail.com wrote: I live in a place where I feel the need to map some streets as areas. If I start a little of such mapping, will routing software get confused? How were you planning to achieve this? Mapping streets (and other linear

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] OSM front page design concept

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 13:17, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Was that meant to disagree or agree with what I said or what? Everyone keeps complaining that OSB is the wrong approach, it will create too much work, but no one has any proof of what will happen, and current bugs listed aren't much of

[OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Peterse
Hallo, inmiddels is ook in mijn omgeving 3Dshapes geïmporteerd. Wat mij opvalt is het aantal wegen die de gebouwen door kruisen. Ik weet zo niet wat correct is, staan de gebouwen correct of zijn de straten goed? Wat is jullie ervaring hiermee? Alvast bedankt, Peter

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
Op 21-02-10 21:03, Peter Peterse schreef: inmiddels is ook in mijn omgeving 3Dshapes geïmporteerd. Wat mij opvalt is het aantal wegen die de gebouwen door kruisen. Ik weet zo niet wat correct is, staan de gebouwen correct of zijn de straten goed? Wat is jullie ervaring hiermee? Ik denk dat de

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3Dshapes

2010-02-21 Thread Lennard
Stefan de Konink wrote: Wat mij opvalt is het aantal wegen die de gebouwen door kruisen. Ik weet zo niet wat correct is, staan de gebouwen correct of zijn de straten goed? Wat is jullie ervaring hiermee? Ik denk dat de gebouwen het correctste zijn. Maar de meest pragmatische oplossing is

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-21 Thread Jim Croft
It could be argued that the location of pools, even if private, would be a valuable knowledgebase in fire and other emergencies. You are not saying whose pool it is, or who has a pool, only that there is a pool at this location. But I would nevertheless be interested in the privacy implications,

[talk-au] State forest areas - possible from DCDB-lite?

2010-02-21 Thread Chris Barham
Hi, I've heard that the Qld DCDB-lite dataset has some cadastral information that can be used to populate OSM. Does this contain State Forests boundaries? If so, I'd like to understand the process to improve the OSM map around Benarkin by getting the forest tagged; so the question is how would

Re: [talk-au] State forest areas - possible from DCDB-lite?

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 14:49, Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com wrote: so the question is how would one extract the correct area bounds for Benarkin state forest from DCDB? If you know the rough start location then yes you can pull that info from DCDB, I've tagged a number of state forests and

Re: [talk-au] tennis court land

2010-02-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 February 2010 13:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Ive been wondering about the idea of mapping private pools in the same way as private tennis courts have been marked, but been worried about some issues, particularly privacy. With the mapping of tennis courts How are there

[Talk-br] Fwd: [Local-contacts] Google Data Liberation Front

2010-02-21 Thread Arlindo Pereira
-- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: 2009/9/12 Subject: [Local-contacts] Google Data Liberation Front To: local-conta...@openstreetmap.org Cc: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com Hello Local Contacts, Ævar suggested you'd be good people to spread

Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: [Local-contacts] Google Data Liberation Front

2010-02-21 Thread Aun Johnsen
Ja voto muito tempo atrais :D On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net Date: 2009/9/12 Subject: [Local-contacts] Google Data Liberation Front To:

Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: [Local-contacts] Google Data Liberation Front

2010-02-21 Thread Bráulio Bezerra da Silva
Vamos ver no que dá. No YouTube a votação a favor da tag video do HTML 5 deu resultado! 2010/2/21 Aun Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org Ja voto muito tempo atrais :D On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com wrote: -- Forwarded message --

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread André Riedel
Am 20. Februar 2010 18:33 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 04:08:58AM -0800, Walter Nordmann wrote: hi florian, ist zwar nicht meine Baustelle aber bei Lauf_a_d_Pegnitz in Bayern scheint was faul zu sein. Die Liste ist 504 Namen lang aber er findet nur eine Straße

[Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 09:40:30AM +0100, André Riedel wrote: Ich wuerde tendentiell jetzt eine 2te - Stark vereinfachte relation anlegen mit nur der outers - das Thema Kreisfrei/Gemeindefreie Gebiete ignorierend und die fuer die auswertung nutzen ... Die Relation ist korrekt. Siehe dazu

Re: [Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Florian Lohoff wrote: Woa - Hat sichmal jemand Fig. 7 angesehen und mal ueberlegt wie man das automatisiert zusammenbauen soll? IMHO gibt es ausser zufaelliges wuerfeln und gucken welches der inner und outer in welches andere wohl reinpasst keine systematische loesung. Wieso das? Am

Re: [Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Frederik On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:44:27PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hallo, Florian Lohoff wrote: Woa - Hat sichmal jemand Fig. 7 angesehen und mal ueberlegt wie man das automatisiert zusammenbauen soll? IMHO gibt es ausser zufaelliges wuerfeln und gucken welches der inner und

Re: [Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 01:41:09PM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: Ich habe mir das gerade mal durchgelesen - im prinzip ist das thema inner/outer taggen also obsolete weil die annahme wenn ein ring in einem anderen ist wandelt sich die role von inner zu outer und vice versa. Der aeussere ist

[Talk-de] Neue Wanderzeichen /-markierungen - Symbole

2010-02-21 Thread fuddel26
Hallo,   ich habe eifrig nach einem Wanderzeichen für den Wanderweg Deutsche Weinstraße gesucht. In der OSMC Reit- und Wanderkarte werden, wie ich finde gute und schöne, Wanderzeichen angezeigt. Wie diese in der Karte erzeugt werden ist mir teilweise klar. Z.B. scheint für Pferdeverbot es

Re: [Talk-de] Neue Wanderzeichen /-markierungen - Symbole

2010-02-21 Thread NopMap
Hallo! fuddel26 wrote: Nun möchte ich, daß für den Wanderweg Deutsche Weinstraße das Symbol gerne angeben, in der Relation Wie Du in OSM solche Wandermarkierungen eintragen kannst, findest Du hier [1] nachlesen. Die Weinstraße hat bereits ein Symbol-Tag: green:white: :WDW:green, also

Re: [Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Florian Lohoff wrote: Ich baue die derzeit neu fuer jeden auswertung der Strassenliste, Da ist es zwar eine schoene Fingeruebung mit den inner-Polygonen, aber waere es nicht einfacher, fuer die Staedte, welche Exklaven mit nennenswerter Strassenanzahl haben, eine Ausnahme von Hand zu

Re: [Talk-de] Strassensuche in der Karte

2010-02-21 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Donnerstag 18 Februar 2010 schrieb Alexander Matheisen: Am Donnerstag 18 Februar 2010 18:12:31 schrieb Hanno Böck: Am Donnerstag 18 Februar 2010 schrieb Markus: Test: ok dr.-völker-strasse, lauf ok dr. völker strasse, lauf ok dr völker strasse, lauf no d völker strasse, lauf

Re: [Talk-de] Strassensuche in der Karte

2010-02-21 Thread Alexander Matheisen
Zu deiner Karte, dein gutes Recht. Aber der IE ist noch immer mit Abstand der am weitesten verbreitete Browser. Muss man so hinnehmen, umerziehen funktioniert nicht mal eben. Ist mir auch ehrlich gesagt egal. Ich bin der letzte der jemandem seine Lieblingssoftware mit teils unsinnigen

Re: [Talk-de] Advanced Polygone in SQL zusammenbauen? Was: Strassenlistenabgleich - jetzt in Selbstbedienung

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 05:09:48PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hallo, Florian Lohoff wrote: Ich baue die derzeit neu fuer jeden auswertung der Strassenliste, Da ist es zwar eine schoene Fingeruebung mit den inner-Polygonen, aber waere es nicht einfacher, fuer die Staedte, welche Exklaven

Re: [Talk-de] Tool - Fensterkoordinaten abgreifen

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 18. Februar 2010 12:44 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: im prinzip ja - nur leider kein osm und zumindest finde ich keine funktion für ein rechteck ! die Geofabrikkarte hat AFAIR so eine JS Funktion, mit der man das anzeigen kann (rechts unten das Plus) Gruß Martin

Re: [Talk-de] Tool - Fensterkoordinaten abgreifen

2010-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: die Geofabrikkarte hat AFAIR so eine JS Funktion, mit der man das anzeigen kann (rechts unten das Plus) Aber Jan wollte ja unbedingt alles fertig in einer Zeile mit Kommata dazwischen ;-) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

Re: [Talk-de] Bürgermeister beunruhigt wegen OSM und R outing

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 18. Februar 2010 02:10 schrieb Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: netter Thread hier ;-), aber was hat das Navigationsgerät im Fahrzeug mit dem Führerschein zu tun? Du hast als Fahrzeugführer im Strassenverkehr gewisse Sorgfaltspflichten, z.B. mußt du dich vor Fahrtantritt vom

Re: [Talk-de] Rendern von Seezeichen und Editor

2010-02-21 Thread Arne Johannessen
Falk Zscheile wrote: Am 19. Februar 2010 20:53 schrieb Arne Johannessen a...@thaw.de: Falk Zscheile wrote: [...] Weiteres Beispiel: durch normale Abnutzung erlangen die Toppzeichen auf Backbord- und Steuerbordtonnen in Dänemark gerne schon mal die Form eines Balls. [...] Und Du bist der

Re: [Talk-de] Werte fuer XY:urban XY:rural etc.

2010-02-21 Thread Doru Julian Bugariu
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen schrieb: gibt es eine Zusammenfassung fuer maxspeed Werte der Form XY:urban XY:rural irgendwo im wiki? Bin leider nicht fuendig geworden. In Tagwatch? http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Germany/De/keystats_maxspeed.html Danke, aber ich habe mich leider ein bischen falsch

Re: [Talk-de] Navivertrauen

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Gross
Johann H. Addicks glaubte zu wissen: Volker Fischer schrieb: Manche meine wohl, dass man unter einer Brücke, die für Fahrzeuge mit mehr als 3,80 Meter Höhe gesperrt ist, doch durchfahren kann, wenn die Polizei nicht in der Nähe ist. *lol* Ich weiss nicht, was daran lustig sein soll. Z

Re: [Talk-de] (NIcht-)Raucherbereiche mappen

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 19. Februar 2010 18:46 schrieb 1248 1...@gmx.de: Da sich auch auf der Diskussionsseite des Proposals keine Einwände finden, bin ich auch für die Abstimmung. Für Interessierte hier noch der Link zum Proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking üblicherweise

Re: [Talk-de] (NIcht-)Raucherbereiche mappen

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 19. Februar 2010 18:46 schrieb 1248 1...@gmx.de: Da sich auch auf der Diskussionsseite des Proposals keine Einwände finden, bin ich auch für die Abstimmung. Für Interessierte hier noch der Link zum Proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking mal ne Frage: die

Re: [Talk-de] Navivertrauen

2010-02-21 Thread Florian Gross
Johann H. Addicks glaubte zu wissen: Am 19.02.2010 21:01, schrieb Florian Gross: Du willst damit jetzt sagen, daß man als Führer eines Sattelzuges nicht darauf achten muß, wo man hinfährt? ;-) Ich hab jahrelang u.a. Transporte bis 25,5m Länge unter sehr beengten Verhältnissen auf Baustellen

Re: [Talk-de] Strassensuche in der Karte

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 18. Februar 2010 18:03 schrieb Alexander Matheisen Finde ich ganz schön gut! Meiner Meinung wird das dem normalsterblichen Nutzer i.d.r ausreichen. Klar ist es nicht perfekt, aber besser, als gar keine Suchfunktion. die Lösung, die derzeit dort läuft (Auswahl per Drop-Down je

Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder: Blaues Meer und mkgmap; Karten für Garmins

2010-02-21 Thread Daniela Duerbeck
Nun ein Selbstkommentar: Ich hab mich inzwischen in die mkgmap-dev-Liste eingetragen und bin ein wenig schlauer. Allerdings noch nicht schlau genug, um damit auf Basis der All-in-one-Map selber eine funktionierende Karte zu erzeugen. Es gibt für einen Anfänger wie mich einfach zuviel zu

Re: [Talk-de] Tool - Fensterkoordinaten abgreifen

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21. Februar 2010 21:51 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hallo, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: die Geofabrikkarte hat AFAIR so eine JS Funktion, mit der man das anzeigen kann (rechts unten das Plus) Aber Jan wollte ja unbedingt alles fertig in einer Zeile mit Kommata dazwischen ;-)

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