Re: [OSM-talk-be] Gent Stadsmagazine OSM
Attribution vind ik wel nodig. Vooral als ze de tijd genomen hebben om hun eigen stijl te renderen denk ik dat attribution slechts een kleine moeite is. Het gelijk delen is niet echt nodig als ze de data niet aanpassen (ze kunnen hun eigen stijl zonder problemen copyrighten). Zelf heb ik nog geen gevallen ontdekt waar ze OSM gebruikten zonder attributie, dus heb ik ook nog niet de kans gekregen om er wat actiever achter te zitten. Ik hoop ook dat ze positief reageren. Groeten, Sander Op 20 mei 2012 13:33 schreef Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.comhet volgende: Hallo, Ik heb net in het Gent Stadsmagazine[1] een kaartje opgemerkt van TRACK [2]. Nu was ik er zeker van dat ze OSM gebruikten en ben ik aan het vergelijken geweest en blijkbaar gebruiken ze in de gedrukte folder in het stadsmagazine OSM maar zonder enige van attribution [3] en dan nemen ze google maps op hun website. Dan was ik nog wat verder aan het kijken en kom ik nóg een kaartje tegen in hetzelfde magazine, ook OSM, ook zonder attribution. De online versie van het magazine: http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/KATERN_TRACK_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/17_19_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf Het is goed dat ze OSM gebruiken maar weer spijtig dat het krediet dat ons geweldig project verdiend weer genegeerd is. Ik heb een vriendelijk mailtje verzonden naar de verantwoordelijke uitgever [4], hopelijk reageren ze positief op mijn bericht. Ik merk wel steeds meer en meer van dergelijk gebruik. Moeten we daar niet wat actiever achter zitten? Of hebben jullie die ervaring niet? Of vinden jullie die attribution niet nodig? Groeten, Ben [1] http://www.gent.be/eCache/THE/2/203.html [2] http://track.be/nl/ [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F [4] http://www.fedramagazine.be/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Gent Stadsmagazine OSM
Vermoedelijk is bij het groenstructuurplan ook OSM gebruikt. Mvg, Georges Op 20 mei 2012 14:01 schreef Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com het volgende: Attribution vind ik wel nodig. Vooral als ze de tijd genomen hebben om hun eigen stijl te renderen denk ik dat attribution slechts een kleine moeite is. Het gelijk delen is niet echt nodig als ze de data niet aanpassen (ze kunnen hun eigen stijl zonder problemen copyrighten). Zelf heb ik nog geen gevallen ontdekt waar ze OSM gebruikten zonder attributie, dus heb ik ook nog niet de kans gekregen om er wat actiever achter te zitten. Ik hoop ook dat ze positief reageren. Groeten, Sander Op 20 mei 2012 13:33 schreef Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.comhet volgende: Hallo, Ik heb net in het Gent Stadsmagazine[1] een kaartje opgemerkt van TRACK [2]. Nu was ik er zeker van dat ze OSM gebruikten en ben ik aan het vergelijken geweest en blijkbaar gebruiken ze in de gedrukte folder in het stadsmagazine OSM maar zonder enige van attribution [3] en dan nemen ze google maps op hun website. Dan was ik nog wat verder aan het kijken en kom ik nóg een kaartje tegen in hetzelfde magazine, ook OSM, ook zonder attribution. De online versie van het magazine: http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/KATERN_TRACK_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/17_19_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf Het is goed dat ze OSM gebruiken maar weer spijtig dat het krediet dat ons geweldig project verdiend weer genegeerd is. Ik heb een vriendelijk mailtje verzonden naar de verantwoordelijke uitgever [4], hopelijk reageren ze positief op mijn bericht. Ik merk wel steeds meer en meer van dergelijk gebruik. Moeten we daar niet wat actiever achter zitten? Of hebben jullie die ervaring niet? Of vinden jullie die attribution niet nodig? Groeten, Ben [1] http://www.gent.be/eCache/THE/2/203.html [2] http://track.be/nl/ [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F [4] http://www.fedramagazine.be/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Gent Stadsmagazine OSM
*Attribution vind ik wel nodig. Vooral als ze de tijd genomen hebben om hun eigen stijl te renderen denk ik dat attribution slechts een kleine moeite is. Het gelijk delen is niet echt nodig als ze de data niet aanpassen (ze kunnen hun eigen stijl zonder problemen copyrighten).* Volledig mee eens! Voor het TRACK: Het is duidelijk aan de gebouwen in het centrum. Voor het groenstructuurplan: Kijk naar het stadion van Gent. Groeten, Ben 2012/5/20 Georges De Gruyter zors1...@gmail.com Vermoedelijk is bij het groenstructuurplan ook OSM gebruikt. Mvg, Georges Op 20 mei 2012 14:01 schreef Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com het volgende: Attribution vind ik wel nodig. Vooral als ze de tijd genomen hebben om hun eigen stijl te renderen denk ik dat attribution slechts een kleine moeite is. Het gelijk delen is niet echt nodig als ze de data niet aanpassen (ze kunnen hun eigen stijl zonder problemen copyrighten). Zelf heb ik nog geen gevallen ontdekt waar ze OSM gebruikten zonder attributie, dus heb ik ook nog niet de kans gekregen om er wat actiever achter te zitten. Ik hoop ook dat ze positief reageren. Groeten, Sander Op 20 mei 2012 13:33 schreef Ben Abelshausen ben.abelshau...@gmail.comhet volgende: Hallo, Ik heb net in het Gent Stadsmagazine[1] een kaartje opgemerkt van TRACK [2]. Nu was ik er zeker van dat ze OSM gebruikten en ben ik aan het vergelijken geweest en blijkbaar gebruiken ze in de gedrukte folder in het stadsmagazine OSM maar zonder enige van attribution [3] en dan nemen ze google maps op hun website. Dan was ik nog wat verder aan het kijken en kom ik nóg een kaartje tegen in hetzelfde magazine, ook OSM, ook zonder attribution. De online versie van het magazine: http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/KATERN_TRACK_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf http://www.gent.be/docs/Departement%20Stafdiensten/Dienst%20Voorlichting/Stadsmagazine%202012/17_19_STAD_MEI_2012.pdf Het is goed dat ze OSM gebruiken maar weer spijtig dat het krediet dat ons geweldig project verdiend weer genegeerd is. Ik heb een vriendelijk mailtje verzonden naar de verantwoordelijke uitgever [4], hopelijk reageren ze positief op mijn bericht. Ik merk wel steeds meer en meer van dergelijk gebruik. Moeten we daar niet wat actiever achter zitten? Of hebben jullie die ervaring niet? Of vinden jullie die attribution niet nodig? Groeten, Ben [1] http://www.gent.be/eCache/THE/2/203.html [2] http://track.be/nl/ [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F [4] http://www.fedramagazine.be/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
Hello. 2012/5/20 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: If no good and valid responses come until 2012-05-22, I will upload this. You will not upload anything until there is a consensus that what you're planning to do is good, else your account will be banned and your edits reverted. Please define what consensus is in a valid way that can be checked for sure in non-subjective way. You dislike me personally. You tell me I will be banned. You will never say there is consensus on this upload. You give yourself right to make final decision what is good and what is right. I think I have this right too. But both of us are wrong. We can not co-exist in project when we both have such rights at the same time. Ich will not go away from project. Ich hope you will not too. You are good after all. We need way to decide what is good and what is not. This way must be irreversible (you can not ban me if some body says after a year that was bad edit), proveable (I can attach link to some discussion to changeset to not get banned), time-limited (I can upload something at all before end of universe). It is good that you are discussing things here, but it is not for you to decide when the discussion is over. Ich listen to your suggestions. My is that no public valid suggestions on improvement of change set within limited amount of time, announced in advance. Sample valid suggestions: - check with SRTM (Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr), Phil Endecott) - make table of contents for overview (Tobias Knerr) - host changes not on google drive (Paul Norman, Phil Endecott) - increase time frame for review (Willi) - present changes to tag values in overview better (SomeoneElse, Tobias Knerr) - create wiki page with list of uploads (Paul Norman). Sample invalid suggestions: - all mechanical edits suck - proposed change sucks (without listing what to improve) - go read beginner mapper guide - repeating the above multiple times in reply to any letter by the same person. Invalid suggestions are needed to keep discussion and atmosphere of mailing list. But they make proposed edit no better. Can be repeated endlessly. Can kill any initiative. Giving you false reason to ban me. That is why I propose to ignore them. I will not upload the published change set. I will prepare better one. Check with SRTM. Add source:ele=SRTM tag if it matches with reasonable deviation. Delete ele if not match. Provide for review before upload. You can still make review on this edit if you have free time. Or you can wait until I prepare better one. I listen to suggestions while preparing it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Fixme as key, not value
Hi, I was told once there was a bot that 'fixed' fixme as a value (I found a proposal about that here[0]). It exists? Who can run it? Currently I see a lot of fixme which don't conform to Fixme key[1], as a result I see things like this[2]. Regards, Stefano [0] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openstreetmap.org/msg05531.html [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fixme [2] http://osm.org/go/xTf6mZ7 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
... -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Edit-review-ele-0-tp5709502p5709582.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4
-Original Message- From: Alberto Nogaro [mailto:bartosom...@yahoo.it] Sent: domenica 20 maggio 2012 14:23 To: 'Philip Barnes' Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4 -Original Message- From: Philip Barnes [mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk] Sent: sabato 19 maggio 2012 14:38 To: OSM Talk Subject: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4 Since updating my TomTom Go 720 to Navcore version 9.4 TTTracklog no longer works and I could really use some new GPS traces for OSM mapping. Google doesn't help, beyond confirming I am not the only one. Has anyone any pointers to getting it working, or to an alternative GPS data logger so that I can resume mapping? If you don't need the tomtom maps to navigate while you log the track, you could try to install ttmaps [1] on your TomTom, it logs in GPX and NMEA format. [1] http://ttmaps.free.fr/en/index.html Alberto ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
On 05/20/2012 11:53 AM, Worst Fixer wrote: Check with SRTM. Add source:ele=SRTM tag if it matches with reasonable deviation. Don't add source:ele=SRTM. You don't know the original source. It's very likely more accurate than the approximation provided by SRTM. But most importantly, manually added ele tags are most likely relative to the national zero level. E.g. there is a 2.33m difference between the German Normall-Null and the Belgian TAW -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM
2012/5/19 Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at: I think the only thing I saw so far that can be correct is the minecraft stuff in the US. Anything else needs fixing I think that the picture of the German village is in no way worst. Having buildings drawn is better than not having them, and angles and stuff can always be refined at a later point. I guess it would be very demotivating if I had traced my home village and someone came up on a webpage stating that this was worst of OSM (a judgement that I cannot share at all). I don't even agree that a building drawn with 90 degree-angles is necessarily better or more precise than one that is drawn freehand. If you see a perfect rectangle on the map you get the impression that it must be precise, but it can be missaligned (rotated) or often not even be a rectangle in reality (I frequently come across buildings that are not rectangles but represented with one or more rectangles in OSM because it is easy to do this with some tools). My point is: if you see something obviously drawn freehand you know what you are looking at, instead if there is something that is done with lots of right angles it does often look true but it is often not more correct than something drawn freehand. I guess in some cases it would be more helpful to have a freehand approximation which allows for interpretation than something that is forced into a 90-degree grid. I am really sorry that there is still no way to comment (e.g. you could defend some of the examples or stretch out the problems of others). cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
2012/5/20 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On 05/20/2012 11:53 AM, Worst Fixer wrote: Check with SRTM. Add source:ele=SRTM tag if it matches with reasonable deviation. Don't add source:ele=SRTM. You don't know the original source. +1 Never add source-tags to data you don't know who, how and from where they entered them. I don't see a point in trying to cure (automatically) certain symptoms of bad imports (like: some imports have left back ele=0 tags, lets make a bot edit on all ele=0). If you can identify the changesets of the bad imports, make a full revert (i.e. for the unchanged objects). cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fixme as key, not value
2012/5/20 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Hi, I was told once there was a bot that 'fixed' fixme as a value (I found a proposal about that here[0]). It exists? Who can run it? Currently I see a lot of fixme which don't conform to Fixme key[1], as a result I see things like this[2]. Regards, Stefano [0] http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openstreetmap.org/msg05531.html [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fixme [2] http://osm.org/go/xTf6mZ7 IMHO fixme should be used in small quantities for unsure (but probable) information, e.g. you are quite sure but don't remember 100%, or you see something in OSM that seems plain wrong but you don't know the area and have not much time to investigate, therefor you flag the object so that someone from the area can resurvey it. It doesn't make a lot of sense to flag missing information like missing name, missing ref and similar, because you can see from the data that the name is missing, or the ref is missing. On the other hand missing information like missing oneway could make some sense _if you think that the road is oneway_, but you don't know for sure. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] wrote at Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:54 PM: Ø You dislike me personally. You tell me I will be banned. You will never say there is consensus on this upload. You give yourself right to make final decision what is good and what is right. Ø I think I have this right too. But both of us are wrong. We can not co-exist in project when we both have such rights at the same time. Ich will not go away from project. Ich hope you will not too. You are good after all. Again this is damned outrageous. Frederik has a good reputation since years in the OSM community. His contributions in different areas are well appreciated. You are mapper since May 9th and behave like a schoolmaster (Deutsch: Oberlehrer): - Did you realize and understand that OSM isnt a democracy but a doocracy? - What did you contribute except modifying contributions of others? - Do you understand or did you at least look at the contributions of others? - Whats your reputation? - Where are the OSM members supporting your activities? Willi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0
Willi-2 wrote You are mapper since May 9th and behave like a schoolmaster (Deutsch: Oberlehrer) +1 i don't think, that he is an osm-newbie. too much technical knowledge. that must be an additional account just to hide his real nick. Regards walter btw: his out.osm contains changes of 1.6 million nodes. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Edit-review-ele-0-tp5709502p5709612.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Hello. I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit. There are 400+ ways tagged building=levels=N in database. I propose changing tags to building=yes; building:levels=N for these ways. Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. Here is overview of affected objects: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Here is file with edits I plan to upload: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/edits-to-upload.osm.bz2 If no valid objections or improvement proposals are raised, I will upload this change file on 2012-05-27. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. I think that should be done only when the name=N is actually a number. __John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Have you tried communicating with user Vostok90 about the data he uploaded just a few days ago? Explained to him why you think it should be different and asked him to fix it himself? You talk about how demotivating it is how everybody reacts to what you are doing. Now try to imagine how demotivating it is when you work on something en someone else stomps over it a few days later without telling why. On 05/20/2012 06:46 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: Here is overview of affected objects: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:50 AM, John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. I think that should be done only when the name=N is actually a number. Yes... be particularly careful with this change. I would suggest reviewing each object manually. I don't have a problem with the building=levels=N change. Also, there are two large unclosed ways that you are planning to modify which shouldn't be building=yes at all. They appear to be a fenced in area, not a building. Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
On 20 May 2012 17:46, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: There are 400+ ways tagged building=levels=N in database. I propose changing tags to building=yes; building:levels=N for these ways. This seems reasonable. But is there evidence (wiki page, taginfo stats, etc) that this is the preferred way of tagging a building with N levels? If so, it would be helpful if you were to provide details of it in your post. This would save everyone evaluating the merits of your proposal from having to look it up themselves. Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. I presume that N stands for a number here. If so, I can see the logic in moving name=N to addr:housenumber=N where there is currently no addr:housenumber key on the object. (Though again a link to the wiki page describing the addressing tagging would be helpful.) But I'm not so sure why you would want to remove an existing addr:housenumber=? tag. Why would you presume in the event of a conflict between a name=N and an addr:housenumber=? that the N is the correct house number, while the ? is worthless and should be thrown away? I think that your rational here needs to be explained further before you proceed, perhaps with some typical data to illustrate the problem you're attempting to correct. (You can't expect people to look through the .osm file to find this out.) However, if I'm interpreting your summary/overview page correctly, the number of objects that would have their addr:housenumber=? tag removed, is very small. So why don't you just evaluate and edit these manually before proceeding with any automated edits? http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 20.05.2012, 19:46 +0300 schrieb Worst Fixer: Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. Maybe this is not the same. Larger industrial plants or universities often have a single address but multiple buildings. In this case the name might be the building number. Regards Werner (werner2101) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page with the details of the proposed upload, as well as contact info (i.e. main account). Please provide documentation on all the points in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy#Document From: Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:47 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N Hello. I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit. There are 400+ ways tagged building=levels=N in database. I propose changing tags to building=yes; building:levels=N for these ways. Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. Here is overview of affected objects: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Here is file with edits I plan to upload: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/edits-to-upload.osm.bz2 If no valid objections or improvement proposals are raised, I will upload this change file on 2012-05-27. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit. There are 400+ ways tagged building=levels=N in database. I propose changing tags to building=yes; building:levels=N for these ways. Also I propose removal of addr:housenumber=? on these objects, and move name=N to addr:housenumber=N. Here is overview of affected objects: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Here is file with edits I plan to upload: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/edits-to-upload.osm.bz2 If no valid objections or improvement proposals are raised, I will upload this change file on 2012-05-27. Have you reviewed all 400+ ways to make sure that all of the name= tags have addresses, rather than containing building names? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Hello. 2012/5/20 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page with the details of the proposed upload, as well as contact info (i.e. main account). Thanks. I created a wiki page on this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/WorstFixer I also updated overview to contain all tag changes being held: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Please provide documentation on all the points in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanhttp://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.htmlical_Edit_Policy#Documenthttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy#Document This page is out of sync with current OSMF practic. Please consider fixing. It suggests that all discussion can be held in wiki. DWG members point users only to mailing lists and require users to discuss their edits on osm-hosted mailing lists only. This page also states it is only draft. It links to not existing examples of Mechanical Edit pages. Existing pages do not follow this policy completely too (contact info lacks, not in category Mechanical Edits). There are also some valid objections to this policy in talk page. Please discuss this policy on talk@ list before enforcing it. Remember you need to get consensus. -- WorstFixer, twitter: http://twitter.com/WorstFixer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
On 20 May 2012, at 20:31, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello. 2012/5/20 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page with the details of the proposed upload, as well as contact info (i.e. main account). Thanks. I created a wiki page on this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/WorstFixer Thanks a lot – I can now actually see the documentation for this edit... However, there's still one major thing missing. To make any sane decission we need a *concise* description of 1) What tags you're targetting 2) Why you think the current values are erroneous 3) What you are doing to fix the errors 4) Why you think this won't hit any valid data. Please please please come back and give this simple short explanation. I'm pretty sure you have good intentions at heart, but I can't tell what's going on until you give a description of what you're trying to do that doesn't involve 101 tables with 0 explanation of what's in them. Bob ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Or post the algorithm :) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
You still have not provided the algorithm used to decide which objects are changed how. I have concerns that mechanical edits should only be undertaken by experienced users and you are a 11 day user. You may also want to review http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct From: Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:31 PM To: Paul Norman Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N Hello. 2012/5/20 Paul Norman penor...@mac.com The mechanical edit policy calls for a wiki page with the details of the proposed upload, as well as contact info (i.e. main account). Thanks. I created a wiki page on this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/WorstFixer I also updated overview to contain all tag changes being held: http://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-building=levels/overview.html Please provide documentation on all the points in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanhttp://worstfixer.000a.biz/03-build ing=levels/overview.htmlical_Edit_Policy#Document http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy#Document This page is out of sync with current OSMF practic. Please consider fixing. It suggests that all discussion can be held in wiki. DWG members point users only to mailing lists and require users to discuss their edits on osm-hosted mailing lists only. This page also states it is only draft. It links to not existing examples of Mechanical Edit pages. Existing pages do not follow this policy completely too (contact info lacks, not in category Mechanical Edits). There are also some valid objections to this policy in talk page. Please discuss this policy on talk@ list before enforcing it. Remember you need to get consensus. -- WorstFixer, twitter: http://twitter.com/WorstFixer ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM
Hello. Those little place-names are estates, not towns: http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/post/22245375879/one-has-heard-the-news-about-the-eu-economy-but Regards,Juan Lucas --- On Tue, 5/15/12, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Subject: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM To: osm talk@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012, 12:33 PM I couldn't find a contact possibilty on the page, that's why I try it here. Worst of OSM is a nice idea IMHO: http://worstofosm.tumblr.com/ What I really miss though is a possibility to comment / discuss the examples. This could help to explain the context of the screenshot as well as discuss some examples which might be disputed. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 14:47 +0200, Alberto Nogaro wrote: -Original Message- From: Alberto Nogaro [mailto:bartosom...@yahoo.it] Sent: domenica 20 maggio 2012 14:23 To: 'Philip Barnes' Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4 -Original Message- From: Philip Barnes [mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk] Sent: sabato 19 maggio 2012 14:38 To: OSM Talk Subject: [OSM-talk] TTTracklog and TomTom core 9.4 Since updating my TomTom Go 720 to Navcore version 9.4 TTTracklog no longer works and I could really use some new GPS traces for OSM mapping. Google doesn't help, beyond confirming I am not the only one. Has anyone any pointers to getting it working, or to an alternative GPS data logger so that I can resume mapping? If you don't need the tomtom maps to navigate while you log the track, you could try to install ttmaps [1] on your TomTom, it logs in GPX and NMEA format. [1] http://ttmaps.free.fr/en/index.html Thanks for all the suggestions. I have a TT traffic and safety camera subscription, so need to keep the TT software, and can't drop back to the old TT version either. Was hoping for a pointer into where TTTracklog is discussed to see if there is any progress on an update, or if TT have introduced some real show stopper with the new release. The pages do not mention any mailing lists or anything. My ultimate plan is to build a car PC/Media player/Data logger based around a Raspberry Pi but I think availability puts that back some months yet. A 2nd device would be nice, so that I can have an OSM display and then be able to use it for navigation/error checking/enhancement ideas. Phil ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: building=levels=N
Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] wrote at Monday, May 21, 2012 2:31 AM This page also states it is only draft. It links to not existing examples of Mechanical Edit pages. Existing pages do not follow this policy completely too (contact info lacks, not in category Mechanical Edits). There are also some valid objections to this policy in talk page. Please discuss this policy on talk@ list before enforcing it. Remember you need to get consensus. When something isn't perfect (yet) this doesn't imply that it can be disregarded completely and being replaced by one's own procedure. And an own procedure needs consensus too! I can't resist to get the impression that he is what his chosen name says the worst fixer I ever saw. Willi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe und Administrative Grenzen / Hierarchien weltweit
Von Sven Anders gab es ein Web-Site, auf der alle deutschen Verwaltungseinheiten hierarchisch aufgelistet waren, mit jeweils einer Anzahl von Fehlern ( Defekte, fehlende Relationen, etc. ). Wenn ein Bundesland auf 0 stand, war alles ok, wenn z.B. BW Fehler zeigte, ging man in die Regierungsbezirke, dann die Kreise, bis letzlich die fehlerhafte Gemeinde entdeckt wurde. Ich fand das sehr hilfreich erst beim Komplettieren der Gemeindegrenzen und dann bei der Kontrolle und ggf. Reparatur. Vielleicht kann man das wiederbeleben und event. auf andere Gegenden ausdehnen. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Hack-Weekend-Karlsruhe-und-Administrative-Grenzen-Hierarchien-weltweit-tp5709504p5709567.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe und Administrative Grenzen / Hierarchien weltweit
Hallo Frederik, meinst du sowas? http://ags.misterboo.de/ Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Ostfriesische Insel wird nicht gerendert
Am Freitag, den 18.05.2012, 22:38 +0200 schrieb Stephan Wolff: Am 18.05.2012 21:21, schrieb Sven Geggus: P.S.: Als Süddeutscher und Hausbrauer stelle ich mir unter Brauerplatte ja eher eine deftige Brotzeit vor :) Hat jemand eine Ahnung wo dieser Name herkommt? Es ist die Brauerplate und nicht die Brauerplatte. Für die Süddeutschen: Eine Plate ist eine gelegentlich trockenfallende Sandbank [1]. Sand wird nur von den Wattwürmern [2] verspeist. Stimmt, neben der Brauerplatte muß zwingend immer ein Altbier stehen, davon sehe ich aber weit und breit nichts. Falscher Fehler, Der Sand wird nur ausgekackt, verspeist wird das, was im (zwischen dem ) Sand ist (Mikroorganismen). sagt 1Klaus Schönen Sonntag Klaus Viele Grüße Stephan [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_%28Begriffskl%C3%A4rung%29 [2] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattwurm ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Ostfriesische Insel wird nicht gerendert
Am Samstag, den 19.05.2012, 02:04 -0700 schrieb Walter Nordmann: Sven Geggus wrote Es ist die Brauerplate und nicht die Brauerplatte. Für die Süddeutschen: Eine Plate ist eine gelegentlich trockenfallende Sandbank [1]. Sand wird nur von den Wattwürmern [2] verspeist. Ich dachte an english plate, aber egal, das wird jetzt off-topic. Na ja, wenn das Hauptthema zufriedenstellend abgeschlossen ist, sollte OT schon mal erlaubt sein. Bei mir kommt Brauerplatte auf jeden Fall in meine Kannibalen-Speisekarte, wo sich schon solche Köstlichkeiten wie Bauern-Omelett, Jägerschnitzel, Seniorenteller und als Nachtisch für Harte Babybrei befindet ;) Gruss Walter Moin, Wir Engern kennen uns in Westfalen ja nicht so aus, aber muß zur Brauerplatte nicht immer ein Doppelwachholder und ein alt Bier dazu? Klaus -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Ostfriesische-Insel-wird-nicht-gerendert-tp5708531p5709490.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe und Administrative Grenzen / Hierarchien weltweit
Hallo, On 05/20/2012 10:13 AM, aighes wrote: Hallo Frederik, meinst du sowas? http://ags.misterboo.de/ Ja, sowas in der Art, fuer die ganze Welt halt. Die Bedienung dieser Webseite ist mir noch nicht ganz klar, kann man die Fehler da auf der Karte sehen? Und es braeuchte irgendwie eine Moeglichkeit, die Admin-Hierarchie getrennt zu pflegen (ausser es gaebe irgendwo was fertiges nach Art der destatis-Daten weltweit, waer mir aber nicht bekannt). Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe und Administrative Grenzen / Hierarchien weltweit
Am 20.05.2012 12:35, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hallo, On 05/20/2012 10:13 AM, aighes wrote: Hallo Frederik, meinst du sowas? http://ags.misterboo.de/ Ja, sowas in der Art, fuer die ganze Welt halt. Die Bedienung dieser Webseite ist mir noch nicht ganz klar, kann man die Fehler da auf der Karte sehen? Und es braeuchte irgendwie eine Moeglichkeit, die Admin-Hierarchie getrennt zu pflegen (ausser es gaebe irgendwo was fertiges nach Art der destatis-Daten weltweit, waer mir aber nicht bekannt). Für Details musst du misterboo selber fragen, ich glaub der liest hier nicht mit und hat die Seite auch nur im Forum erwähnt. Henning ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Koordinaten Gitter für maperitive
Hallo Leute, ich habe neulich ein Script geschrieben um in Maperitive relativ beliebige Koordinaten Gitter rendern zu können. Beim Aufruf von |download-osm xapi-url=http://bastler.bplaced.net/api/grid.php?mbbox=;| bekommt man für die aktuellen bounds ein mit OSM-tags beschriebens Gitter zurück, welches mit entsprechenden Render-Rules angezeigt werden kann. Die genaue Dokumentation und der Quellcode ist auf GitHub https://github.com/k4r573n/theGrid/wiki vllt kann es ja sonst noch jemand brauchen. viele Grüße Karsten ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Tirex tirex-example-map
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ich versuche mir grad an der einrichtung von tirex. Tirex habe ich selber aus den sourcen compiliert und installiert leider wurde dabei die tirex-example-map nicht mit nach /etc/tirex kopiert und im netz habe ich die Datei auch nicht finden können... Kann mir jemand aushelfen? Gruß Tobias ps: ein paar tips zum debuggen meiner Installation wären sicher auch sehr hilfreich die logausgaben sind ja nicht sehr gesprächig -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPuN/kAAoJEGkKxZ+TJ35MZf4H/R8PBI1SPJb6D3F21z+ejHAa 0GiK2aAF1jq0oAAfG5eJ0cAa6Elx1fcQ/p0wEELuhm/EUzomqDVzjdghL1viqTjE CsVuz5W5oiz2hw3m2V9t/5J1G/wL93p++dZP9gI/YZhxXr7SXTBN0C8dEcwPNxjP R0dfCrm2sDTdwIE7xNxoDBn9FETpTcn+0kQ9KULE7jdXByBAlwlcE79hzpwKLSPQ Xwarr9OKpiE/niQTt/ukkCmj+uQkgmbvCcNK4ZIhxpbLnakFYvSYW8h1dVgSq/hO Cg5iPFfFGJef7LtvJmmcYDf2crhcHI5/wIL6echc+4Ln3ize9JmQ+f6Jq2SWTtY= =XXyB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tirex tirex-example-map
Tobias Hobmeier tob...@antifuse.de wrote: ich versuche mir grad an der einrichtung von tirex. Tirex habe ich selber aus den sourcen compiliert und installiert leider wurde dabei die tirex-example-map nicht mit nach /etc/tirex kopiert und im netz habe ich die Datei auch nicht finden können... tirex baut man am besten als Debianpaket (mit dpkg-buildpackage), da fällt dann ein Paket tirex-example-map raus das man einfach installieren kann: osm/ dpkg -c tirex-example-map_0.2.0_amd64.deb drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/doc/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 1034 2012-01-30 09:49 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/copyright -rw-r--r-- root/root 462 2012-01-30 09:49 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/changelog.gz drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 714 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/example.xml -rw-r--r-- root/root 168 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.dbf -rw-r--r-- root/root 145 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.prj -rw-r--r-- root/root 84804 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.shp -rw-r--r-- root/root 116 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.shx -rw-r--r-- root/root 328 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/README drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/mapnik/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 931 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/mapnik/example.conf Gruss Sven -- All bugs added by David S. Miller da...@redhat.com Linux Kernel boot message from /usr/src/linux/net/8021q/vlan.c /me is giggls@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tirex tirex-example-map
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, ja danke soweit leider ist die distribution meiner wahl gentoo und ich hatte auch nicht umbedingt vor das debian paket jetzt hier irgendwie zurecht zu basteln ... meiner auffassung nach sollte auch die source installation die beispiel config mitbringen ... Gruß Tobi On 05/20/12 15:25, Sven Geggus wrote: Tobias Hobmeier tob...@antifuse.de wrote: ich versuche mir grad an der einrichtung von tirex. Tirex habe ich selber aus den sourcen compiliert und installiert leider wurde dabei die tirex-example-map nicht mit nach /etc/tirex kopiert und im netz habe ich die Datei auch nicht finden können... tirex baut man am besten als Debianpaket (mit dpkg-buildpackage), da fällt dann ein Paket tirex-example-map raus das man einfach installieren kann: osm/ dpkg -c tirex-example-map_0.2.0_amd64.deb drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/doc/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 1034 2012-01-30 09:49 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/copyright -rw-r--r-- root/root 462 2012-01-30 09:49 ./usr/share/doc/tirex-example-map/changelog.gz drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 714 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/example.xml -rw-r--r-- root/root 168 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.dbf -rw-r--r-- root/root 145 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.prj -rw-r--r-- root/root 84804 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.shp -rw-r--r-- root/root 116 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/ocean.shx -rw-r--r-- root/root 328 2012-02-01 21:41 ./usr/share/tirex/example-map/README drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/mapnik/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 931 2012-02-01 21:41 ./etc/tirex/renderer/mapnik/example.conf Gruss Sven -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPuQBJAAoJEGkKxZ+TJ35MqEoIAI/+S/mUo7wX+0x4Zn2+eqdm 7X/CV4V0RNkdr5882xsWkAlZpNXCVVyTf+V220ljU50nPrZhDD+bu8sUlQk5S5Mv xVNeKVE8RBXLFqlVfXiLlN6rz9Tk46nprAQyityzkRvpfG4cz8oStNURMc6OPLPw lO9yVUW+4w9HraN65pxk9i95dULilY9vT7zNMf8tZnWFEoeHJHhchYp/hS92khOE iu2aTDxppG2oOYHvoYexo+WpqdFStQXLZ6JAdgoB6onDtqdiI03evqyGjROtHS11 gbVmRAfB43veQBlXa0RlBoz6yHd6h5F07R2dWz+zHMSQ1g6svBSxoNjtXcAx4h8= =ANyx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Tirex tirex-example-map
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 04:31:37PM +0200, Tobias Hobmeier wrote: Tobias Hobmeier tob...@antifuse.de wrote: ich versuche mir grad an der einrichtung von tirex. Tirex habe ich selber aus den sourcen compiliert und installiert leider wurde dabei die tirex-example-map nicht mit nach /etc/tirex kopiert und im netz habe ich die Datei auch nicht finden können... Hm. Da gibts ein Verzeichnis example-map direkt neben dem anderen Kram, den Du installiert hast. Könnte es das vielleicht sein? :-) Jochen -- Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org http://www.remote.org/jochen/ +49-721-388298 ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 96
Hallo, die neue Wochennotiz Nr. 96 mit allen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap-Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2012/05/wochennotiz-nr-96/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Hack-Weekend Karlsruhe und Administrative Grenzen / Hierarchien weltweit
Frederik Ramm wrote Was da fehlt, ist irgendein automatisches Kontrollsystem, das all diese Grenzen prueft und z.B. auf Basis einer naechtlichen Auswertungen Reports generiert Etwas aehnliches erzielt das mapquest open Broken polygon tool [1] das auf Basis von Nominatim funktioniert. Es listet Polygone die nicht korrekt sind (z.B. self-intersecting) oder bei denen sich die Flaeche drastisch geaendert hat, was meist auf einen Fehler hindeutet. Da administrative Grenzen natuerlich sehr wichtig fuer Nominatim ist, gibt es glaube ich auch eine Einstellung um nur administrative Polygone anzuzeigen. Leider scheinen die Klassifikation nicht immer zuverlaessig zu funktionieren und auch ein paar andere Dinge sind nicht gerade ideal. Z.B. scheint es nur Aenderungen zu zeigen und nicht den gesammt Stand der Probleme. Aber moeglicherweise koennte es als Basis fuer eine verbesserte Version verwendet werden, denn ich denke es hat das Potential sehr nuetzlich zu sein. Insofern waere es super wenn jemand das broken polygon tool auf Vorderman bringen koennte. Kai [1] http://open.mapquestapi.com/brokenpoly/ -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Hack-Weekend-Karlsruhe-und-Administrative-Grenzen-Hierarchien-weltweit-tp5709504p5709627.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Rohde Schwarz - Funkpeiler mit OSM-Karten
Hallo OSM-Gestalter, die Firma Rohde Schwarz stellt ihr neues tragbares Funk-Peilgerät DDF007 vor, dabei handelt es sich sicherlich um ein Gerät der gehobenen Klasse. Die Kartendarstellung auf dem Farbdisplay basiert auf OSM, das wird auch in der Broschüre (deutsch unter www2.rohde-schwarz.com/file/DDF007_bro_de.pdf auf Seite 6) genannt. Die Angabe Die Kartendaten sind momentan lizenzfrei stimmt dagegen nicht. Bernhard ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Rohde Schwarz - Funkpeiler mit OSM-Karten
On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:00:02PM +0200, Bernhard Weiskopf wrote: die Firma Rohde Schwarz stellt ihr neues tragbares Funk-Peilgerät DDF007 vor, dabei handelt es sich sicherlich um ein Gerät der gehobenen Klasse. Die Kartendarstellung auf dem Farbdisplay basiert auf OSM, das wird auch in der Broschüre (deutsch unter www2.rohde-schwarz.com/file/DDF007_bro_de.pdf auf Seite 6) genannt. Die Angabe Die Kartendaten sind momentan lizenzfrei stimmt dagegen nicht. Da, das ist falsch. Hast du mit dem Hersteller schon Kontakt aufgenommen? flo ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Problema routing su incrocio canalizzato con OSRM e Garmin Nuvi
2012/5/19 Jeawrong jeawithl...@tin.it: Sono d'accordo, secondo me i navigatori dovrebbero comunque informare l'automobilista, quanto meno con un tenersi a destra (prima dello svincolo) e poi svoltare a destra (o proseguire a destra su SP77). +1 Secondo me qui è un problema della conversione, dato che i Garmin si comportano normalmente così come dici tu (per esempio, strada principale che devia verso sinistra e strada secondaria dritta di fronte, il mio Nuvi dice Tenersi a sinistra). +1 anche su quello che dice Volker: a me farebbe comodo (uso 2 Garmin e soprattutto sullo StreetPilot che uso in moto le uniche mappe aggiornate al momento sono quelle OSM, dato che Garmin ha deciso di non rilasciare aggiornamenti dopo il 2009...), ma non è giusto mappare per far andare un software adesso (perché in futuro lo stesso navigatore potrebbe comportarsi bene). So che può essere un limite alla diffusione di OSM, ma credo sia il problema minore... -- Cià Cristiano / Sky One Home: http://www.skyone.it (itinerari in moto e non solo) Pensieri: http://blog.skyone.it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema routing su incrocio canalizzato con OSRM e Garmin Nuvi
Dopo la leggera correzione dell'incrocio ora su OSRM recita Girare leggermente a destra su SP77, il che mi fa pensare che anche sul Garmin verrà indicata la svolta... però effettivamente è un forzare il dato geografico al software di navigazione. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Problema-routing-su-incrocio-canalizzato-con-OSRM-e-Garmin-Nuvi-tp5709297p5709570.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Oggetti senza tag dopo un import vicino a Venezia
Ciao Su irc [1]_ hanno appena segnalato che in seguito ad un import ci sono un sacco di `oggetti senza tag`_ nei `dintorni di venezia`_, chiedono se sia il caso di dare una ripulita .. _`oggetti senza tag`: http://malenki.ch/d/2012-05-20_101822_scr_data_mess_at_venice.jpg .. _`dintorni di venezia`: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3624lon=12.2599zoom=13 .. [1] #osm-it@OFTC ho dato solo un'occhiata rapida, ma visto che non so se in chat ci fosse gente della zona forwardo di qui messaggio originale: 10:26 malenki buonjourno 10:27 malenki after an import near venice there is a big lot of untagged objects: http://malenki.ch/d/2012-05-20_101822_scr_data_mess_at_venice.jpg 10:27 malenki around here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3624lon=12.2599zoom=13 10:28 malenki a cleanup would be quite recommended 10:49 malenki see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Veneto/Comunit%C3%A0/Osmveneto_Import_Day#Why_import_untagged_ways.3F -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Oggetti senza tag dopo un import vicino a Venezia
Il 20/05/2012 11:11, Elena ``of Valhalla'' ha scritto: Ciao Su irc [1]_ hanno appena segnalato che in seguito ad un import ci sono un sacco di `oggetti senza tag`_ nei `dintorni di venezia`_, chiedono se sia il caso di dare una ripulita .. _`oggetti senza tag`: http://malenki.ch/d/2012-05-20_101822_scr_data_mess_at_venice.jpg .. _`dintorni di venezia`: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.3624lon=12.2599zoom=13 .. [1] #osm-it@OFTC ho dato solo un'occhiata rapida, ma visto che non so se in chat ci fosse gente della zona forwardo di qui Si, è vero in laguna ci sono un bel po' di linee senza tag. Sono state caricate volontariamente, l'idea era di usarle per sistemare per bene la laguna non appena fosse finita l'importazione della CTR in laguna. Evidentemente ora è necessario anticipare i tempi e iniziare a sistemare ancor prima di finire l'import. Dato che comunque anche le cose che vengono cancellate restano nel database è meglio che non venga fatta una cancellazione massiva di queste way senza tag perché son linee che in seguito verrebbero caricate nuovamente, stavolta con i tag... Quindi portate un po' di pazienza e lasciate fare a chi ha importato. ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
Buongiorno lista, si avvicina l'estate e si potrebbe allungare la tradizione del Mapping Party in montagna.Per chi fosse relativamente nuovo della ML ricordo che partimmo nel 2009 col Dolomity Mapping Party proseguendo nel 2010 nel Parco Nazionale del Gran Paradiso, mentre l'anno scorso ci trovammo nel Massiccio del Gran Sasso. Spiace constatare che gli eventi dei Mapping Party siano diventati cose rare, faccio perciò appello agli escursionisti ed alpinisti della lista per fare outing :-) e dare la propria disponibilità per un evento da 2-3 o 4 giorni da organizzare in un qualsiasi posto in Italia che sia abbastanza alto da considerarsi montagna e abbastanza bello da far muovere persone da qualche centinaio di chilometri.Orsù montagnini, venite allo scoperto! Alessandro a.k.a. Ale_Zena_IT ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
2012/5/20 ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it: Buongiorno lista, si avvicina l'estate e si potrebbe allungare la tradizione del Mapping Party in montagna. [cut] Orsù montagnini, venite allo scoperto! o/ eccomi! Io ci sarei, se il target è dolomitico (belluno/bolzano/trento) Ciao ciao Luca -- E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle macchine Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) Internet è la più grande biblioteca del mondo. Ma il problema è che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
On 20 May 2012 14:39, ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it wrote: Buongiorno lista, Ciao ale si avvicina l'estate e si potrebbe allungare la tradizione del Mapping Party in montagna. Ottima idea... Orsù montagnini, venite allo scoperto! Come sai ci sono, puoi fare un doodle con un paio di date? Sarebbe bello beccare mayeul che fa la via alpina, oppure fare un pezzo di un altro percorso... Alessandro a.k.a. Ale_Zena_IT -- Ciao Luca http://www.lucadelu.org http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Sports Tracker usa Google Maps
Ciao a tutti, ho installato questo fine settimana l'applicativo Android Sports Tracker, segnalato tra i software che sfruttano il database OSM¹, ma ho ben presto scoperto con orrore che in realtà utilizza le mappe di Google, sia sullo smartphone, sia sul loro sito web². Immagino sarebbe opportuno rimuoverlo dalla pagina Wiki, visto che supporta OSM solo sulla carta... :'( Non essendo abile di modifiche Wiki, lascio a voi l'onore, qualora siate d'accordo con me sulla rimozione. ¹ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android ² http://www.sports-tracker.com/ -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sports Tracker usa Google Maps
2012/5/20 Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com Ciao a tutti, ho installato questo fine settimana l'applicativo Android Sports Tracker, segnalato tra i software che sfruttano il database OSM¹, ma ho ben presto scoperto con orrore che in realtà utilizza le mappe di Google, sia sullo smartphone, sia sul loro sito web². Immagino sarebbe opportuno rimuoverlo dalla pagina Wiki, visto che supporta OSM solo sulla carta... :'( Non essendo abile di modifiche Wiki, lascio a voi l'onore, qualora siate d'accordo con me sulla rimozione. Ciao, quella lista ha diversi problemi. Lo so perché avevo postato pcoo tempo fa che stavo cercando una applicazione di questo tipo per android e non l'ho trovata. Ad esempio figura nella lista Endomondo, che però pare supporti OSM solo su Blackberry, su Android sicuramente no, le mappe sono solo quelle di Google. Io alla fine mi accontento di usare quello, anche perché è carina e ho visto che ci sono richieste per aggiungere il supporto a OSM, quindi sono speranzoso ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Razionalizzazione di alcuni tag
2012/5/19 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Il giorno 19 maggio 2012 17:28, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2012/5/19 sabas88 saba...@gmail.com: Mi ricorda anche il caso delle key usate in Lombardia, della cui lunghezza si era discusso tempo addietro (Martin mi pare avesse iniziato il discorso). non mi riccordo bene, ma è probabile che ho iniziato un discorso riguardando dei import. Cosa mi riccordo per esempio erano dei landuse=farm con tantissimi nodi (decine-centinaia) per un singolo campo (che ne anche si sovraponeva con le foto aerei) e dovuto alla conversione da curve a poligoni lineari. La lunghezza dei tags non è un problema grosso IMHO, non credo che era il motivo per incriminare un import (forse il problema era, che si erano usato tags riferiti ad un dataset esterno, dove noi abbiamo tags propri (esempio (non reale): gis-lombardia-name invece di name, o delle aree in tags (l'area di un poligono non dovremmo mettere dentro un tag secondome, perchè è contenuta nella geometria). Anche tanti chiavi paralleli come spesso occorono nel ambito di imports non sono necessari (più tags per associare un dataset ad osm invece di _un_ tag foreign-id). Per quanto riguarda gfoss_id, trasformarlo in ref:gfoss ? -1 non vedo nessun vantaggio, ma lo svsantaggio di creare operazioni inutili (si creano change actions senza beneficio). Che vantaggi materiali traiamo da queste modifiche automatiche? +1 Vantaggi? Un po' di pulizia e più ordine imho. imho sforzo inutile che appensatisce il db. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Problema routing su incrocio canalizzato con OSRM e Garmin Nuvi
2012/5/19 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: Non c'era la regola che non mappiamo per i routers? certo Ho guardato Bing e anche Streetview. La mappa era corretta per quanto riguarda la geometria. Quello che il navigatore dovrebbe dire è mergo onto SP 77, che penso in italiano sarebbe proseguire su SP77, allora per mio avviso era tutto apposto. Modificare la geometria della mappa per il router non è necessario nel caso specifco, ne sarebbe corretto. secondome i router evidenziano un problema del dato. E' meno corretto una geometria che offusca la vera natura di un incrocio in una pappa rispetto ad una geometria esplicita (intendo: le strade sono da mappare al centro della strada, se un way percorre per più del necessario invece del centro della strada in una zona indeterminata dentro i limiti della strada, ma più del necessario lontano dal centro è un (piccolo) errore, che risulta in problemi per i router (per esempio). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sports Tracker usa Google Maps
Il giorno 20 maggio 2012 16:02, Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com ha scritto: Io alla fine mi accontento di usare quello, anche perché è carina e ho visto che ci sono richieste per aggiungere il supporto a OSM, quindi sono speranzoso Ti riferisci a Sports Tracking o a Endomondo? -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Sports Tracker usa Google Maps
2012/5/20 Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.com Il giorno 20 maggio 2012 16:02, Andrea Decorte adeco...@gmail.com ha scritto: Io alla fine mi accontento di usare quello, anche perché è carina e ho visto che ci sono richieste per aggiungere il supporto a OSM, quindi sono speranzoso Ti riferisci a Sports Tracking o a Endomondo? Endomondo. Cmq anche Sports Tracking mi pare usi OSM ma non su Android. Resta il fatto che la wiki è fuorviante ;-)* * ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
si avvicina l'estate e si potrebbe allungare la tradizione del Mapping Party in montagna. Forse lo conoscete già, ma penso sarebbe cosa utile a questo riguardo partecipare alla mappatura della Via Alpina: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:ViaAlpina Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
Se vi piacciono i ghiacciai propongo il Rifugio degli Angeli in Valle d'Aosta ( http://tapazovaldoten.altervista.org/rifugi/rifugio_degli_angeli.html) ci si arriva da due sentieri differenti o dalla ferrata Béthaz Bovard, volendo il giorno dopo ascensione al Rutor e rientro a La Thuile dal rifugio Deffeyes. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cartello informazioni SOS soccorso alpino
From: niubii [mailto:f.pelu...@gmail.com] Sent: domenica 20 maggio 2012 19:09 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: [Talk-it] Cartello informazioni SOS soccorso alpino Ciao recentemente mi sono imbattuto in questo cartello (vedi allegato). Mi risulta abbastanza ostico inserire tutte queste info in mappa. Nemmeno il wiki mi è stato di grande aiuto. Se è un posto in un punto prestabilito per farvi arrivare i soccorsi, ci sarebbe highway=emergency_access_point, altrimenti per il cartello direi tourist=information + information=board. Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] icone sdoppiate in 4UMaps
Guardando la nuova mappa topografica dell'Europa 4UMaps ho notato che le icone dei rifugi alpini sono sdoppiate, con un'icona dritta ed una orientata secondo un angolo variabile. Vedi ad esempio: http://www.4umaps.eu/4umap.htm?zoom=15lat=46.02735lon=9.51014layers=B E' un bug o l'icona inclinata ha qualche significato? Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Cartello informazioni SOS soccorso alpino
Ok, nel frattempo l'ho inserito cosi': http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1759978590 Ci sarebbero da inserire in vari numeri di telefono. Qualche suggerimento? Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 20 maggio 2012 21:02, Alberto Nogaro bartosom...@yahoo.it ha scritto: From: niubii [mailto:f.pelu...@gmail.com] Sent: domenica 20 maggio 2012 19:09 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: [Talk-it] Cartello informazioni SOS soccorso alpino Ciao recentemente mi sono imbattuto in questo cartello (vedi allegato). Mi risulta abbastanza ostico inserire tutte queste info in mappa. Nemmeno il wiki mi è stato di grande aiuto. Se è un posto in un punto prestabilito per farvi arrivare i soccorsi, ci sarebbe highway=emergency_access_point, altrimenti per il cartello direi tourist=information + information=board. Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Alpine Mapping Party 2012
anche io presente per zone dolomitiche :) 2012/5/20 Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto lorenzetto.l...@gmail.com 2012/5/20 ale_z...@libero.it ale_z...@libero.it: Io ci sarei, se il target è dolomitico (belluno/bolzano/trento) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-dk] Så er der kommunegrænser!
Yay - you guys rock! Det kunne måske være sjovt at have et repository med diverse OSM-eksporteringer, fx et KML-eksport af forskellige features, som er let at bruge for diverse medier (bare de krediterer OpenStreetMap for datamaterialet). - Peter 2012/5/21 Jonas Häggqvist ras...@rasher.dk: I aften fik vi de sidste kommuner tegnet ind i OSM. Dvs. vi nu har et objekt i OSM for hver kommune. Oversigt og lidt information kan ses på følgende side: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Denmark/Da:Administrative_boundaries Jeg tog som eksperiment og sammenlignede areal for vores kommune-objekter med de arealer som geoservicen (geo.oiorest.dk) giver for hver kommune: http://osm.rasher.dk/kommuner.txt De fleste ser endog rigtig fornuftige ud, men Københavns Kommune er helt gal. Jeg tror der har sneget sig et ekstra 0 ind i geoservicens tal, men det får mig så til at spekulere på om vi kan stole på de andre tal. Regionerne er også blevet tilpasset til at have grænser på kystlinjerne og følge kommunerne i øvrigt. En stor hånd til Rasmus Vendelboe som har været rigtig flittig til at tegne kommune-grænser. -- Jonas Häggqvist rasher(at)rasher(dot)dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-ar] duda place=country
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154076528 esto es un error? tagea tag=country a un barrio privado. saludos. ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
Re: [Talk-ar] duda place=country
obviamente, corregilo gracias On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Fabian Alejandro fager...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/154076528 esto es un error? tagea tag=country a un barrio privado. saludos. ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
[Talk-at] LUGT/OSM-Stammtisch am 24. Mai 2012
Servus! Wir möchten zum nächsten gemeinsamen LUGT-/OSM-Stammtisch einladen: am Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2012 um 19:00 Uhr im Restaurant Kastanie Innsbrucker Straße 4, 6176 Völs Wir freuen uns auf ein zahlreiches Erscheinen! Bitte hilf auch gleich mit, den Termin für Juni 2012 zu finden: http://www.doodle.com/4f5yagy4cpneaepr Die Einladung ist wie immer auch im OSM-Wiki zu finden: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Innsbruck/Stammtisch Grüße Simon ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-pt] Limites administrativos (o regresso)
Olá, Para continuar o trabalho http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Importa%C3% A7%C3%A3o_da_CAOP fiz um programa, uma adaptação do muito agradecido trabalho do nosso amigo Jorge, para automatizar todo o processo de gestão dos dados CAOP. O objetivo não é só de fazer a importação mais sobretudo permitir fazer a atualização desses dados (o IGP fornece uma nova CAOP todos os anos). Todo o processo esta descrito no wiki[1] numa pagina pessoal, sendo que o conteúdo desta pagina poderá ser colocado no lugar da pagina original se o desejaram ou quando o programa e o processo ficaram finalizados. Também fiz uma pagina de discussão[2] para que todos possam responder as perguntas deixado em aberto no wiki ou para dizer mal do meu trabalho ;-). A pagina de discussão também pode servir para o resumo das discussões que virão a ser feita aqui na lista. Basicamente o projeto está dividido em 3 fases : - converter os dados CAOP em dados compatível OSM (fase acabada, só precisa de uns retoques) - diff e merge com os dados existente, também chamado conflation (tudo para fazer) - envio automático para o servidor (programa bem adiantado) Leem o wiki[1] para mais informações. O código (feito em Python) será obviamente colocado em GPL, ainda tenho que ver onde é que vou-o disponibilizar (se calhar em github, mais tenho que ver como é que isto funciona). Desde já posso enviar o código a quem o quiser por email. Este projeto é e deve ser um projeto da comunidade portuguesa, e para garantir o seu sucesso tem que seguir as regras simples do OSM quando se fala de importar dados (vejam em [3]) : - licença compatível, já foi discutido na lista ha algum tempo - ser discutido aqui na lista e na lista imp...@openstreetmap.org - ser documentado no wiki - aberto a todos - conta própria dedicado ao processo O ultimo ponte permite identificar as modificações humanas das modificações automáticas feitas por programa. Para tal efeito criei uma conta (CAOPbot) no servidor principal e no servidor de teste (e também uma conta gmail.com) que vai ser usado só para este projeto, assim a comunidade portuguesa OpenStreetMap fica com um bot para gerir os dados da Carta Administrativa Oficial Portuguesa. O password para essas contas será divulgado ao pessoal que querem estar envolvidos neste projeto e não será divulgado num lugar publico (nem na lista, nem no wiki, nem no código fonte). O projeto ainda esta em fase de teste, tudo é feito com o servidor de teste (só será usada a conta de produção quando tudo estiver pronto). Agradeço a todos que possam ajudar e que querem participar neste projeto, mesmo sem qualquer competência em Python as vossas ideias são sempre bem vindas. Força, vamos mapear Portugal e vamos integrar os nossos limites administrativos. Francisco (peço desculpa por este email demasiado longo). [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:FranciscoDS/Importa%C3%A7% C3%A3o_da_CAOP [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:FranciscoDS/Importa%C3% A7%C3%A3o_da_CAOP [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Besoin d'aide - Cartographie, itinéraires de randonnée
Bonjour, Tout ce que tu veux faire est possible en utilisant OSM, SRTM, OpenLayers et probablement quelques autres outils. Mais tout dépend de ton niveau de compétence technique dans le domaine, car il n'existe pas d'outils simples pour combiner cartes OSM, courbes de niveaux et traces GPS. La solution peut dépendre aussi de l'outil et de l'hébergement dont on se sert pour la page web. Pour certains CMS, tel que Drupal, il existe des solutions qui permettent d'intégrer des cartes avec des traces GPS sans trop se soucier des détails de WMS, OpenLayers et autres. Dans d'autres cas, il faut se taper tous les outils dans le détail. Une solution pourrait être de se servir d'un site externe pour héberger les parcours GPS et d'utiliser des ilink pour intégrer les cartes sur ton site. Rainer ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] L'ON3V libère ses données?
les différents liens que l'on trouve citent comme source le site veilleinfotourisme.fr: http://www.veilleinfotourisme.fr/l-observatoire-national-des-veloroutes-et-voies-vertes-est-en-ligne-90017.kjsp?RH=1268753534492 mais je pense que pour connaitre les détails de la libération de données il faut contacter l'ON3V en direct. Peut être que cette décision a été prise suite a la réunion organisée a bercy: http://www.departements-regions-cyclables.org/page/index.php?p=7ref=16 J'essaye d'avoir plus d'infos via le responsable du compte Facebook de DRC qui a lui aussi relayé l'info, et vous tiens au courant si j'ai une réponse. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/L-ON3V-libere-ses-donnees-tp5709492p5709583.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Recherche personnes pour me former à OSM (cartographie en ligne, cartes sur site perso...)
Bonjour, J'habite Marseille, et je souhaite créer un site web sur lequel je proposerai gratuitement des itinéraires de randonnées sur fond de carte OSM. Je créé mon site, ou plutôt un blog, sur WordPress. Donc je souhaite y faire figurer des cartes avec des traces, et d'autres informations essentielles au randonneurs (informations données par l'API Géoportail de l'IGN), tels que des graphiques de variation de dénivelés, les distances... Le problème c'est que je suis novice dans le domaine, et que j'ai beaucoup de mal à comprendre et maîtriser comment ça marche. Ainsi, je souhaiterais me faire former par une personne maîtrisant OSM et ses différentes fonctionnalités, ainsi que l'export de données de cartographie sur un site web perso. D'avance je vous remercie pour vos réponses, j'en ai vraiment besoin. Bien sûr je me déplacerai pour rencontrer la personne formatrice. Vous pouvez me répondre sur mon adresse perso : fcleme...@laposte.net Bien cordialement, Frédéric Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] circonscriptions legislatives : trouver les limites
Bonjour, On a avancé sur le sujet. On a une page wiki qui détaille l'avancement : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Circonscription_l%C3%A9gislative Le premier tableau donne l'état d'intégration des relations générés. Toutes les circonscriptions qui ont pu être intégré l'ont été. Les circonscriptions intégrées sont celles pour les qu'elles il ne manque pas de communes entières. Parfois il ne manque qu'une seule commune pour pouvoir ajouter la circonscription à OSM. D'autres parts, les circonscriptions sont bâties depuis les cantons. Les cantons découpent parfois des communes, surtout dans les grandes villes. Donc pour terminer les circonscriptions il faut utiliser les définitions des cantons. C'est là que ça devient un vrai jeu de piste. Il faut pécher ces définitions dans le journal officiel. On en a déjà un certain nombre. Le wiki liste donc les communes à découper pour terminer des circonscriptions, on à même déjà identifié le JO à utiliser dans certain cas. Cartographiez donc une circonscription par ce dimanche pluvieux ;) Fredéric. Le 18/05/2012 09:56, Benjamin Bohard a écrit : Bonjour, L'annexe du code électoral ne détaille pas le contour des cantons. Pour l'instant, en l'absence d'autres sources (il y a des fragments disponibles en opendata à droite à gauche), on dépouille les JORF. Il y a quelques années clés : 1973, 1982. Personnellement, je ne construis que les circonscriptions pour parer au plus pressé. Ça dispense de trouver les limites des cantons qui sont englobés. Benjamin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Peut etre que quelqu'un en a déja parlé sur cette ML... mais je souhaite quand meme vous partager ma découverte: Je cherchais un site pour creer des traces GPS a partir d'un fond de carte. Je ne pensais vraiment pas trouver un site basé sur OSM, mais plutot sur IGN ou Googlemap... mais voici un site qui combine les 3 fonds de carte: http://www.circuits-de-france.com/index.php Ce qui est génial c'est que lorsqu'on utilise le fond OSM, il suit automatiquement les chemins de la DBB OSM... Pour l'instant j'ai pas encore trop eu l'occasion de l'explorer a fond... mais c'est déja un bon début. Avez-vous peut etre dans vos lien un site similaire voire peut etre encore mieux? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/creer-des-traces-GPX-sur-fond-OSM-tp5709593.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Ce qui est génial c'est que lorsqu'on utilise le fond OSM, il suit automatiquement les chemins de la DBB OSM... J'ai essayé et ça ne marche pas dans mon coin, ça suit les chemins google maps mais pas OSM -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
a mince... bon ben fausse joie... en effet chez moi aussi les chemins uniquement sur OSM ne sont pas suivis... Donc je suis toujours a la recherche de ce logiciel ou site qui pourrait suivre les chemins OSM... et non pas ceux de google. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/creer-des-traces-GPX-sur-fond-OSM-tp5709593p5709597.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Bonjour, Donc je suis toujours a la recherche de ce logiciel ou site qui pourrait suivre les chemins OSM... et non pas ceux de google. QLandkarteGt sait faire cela. Il suffit d'utiliser une carte au format Garmin crée à partir de la base OSM. Rainer ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Le dimanche 20 mai 2012 06:30:51 PierreV a écrit : a mince... bon ben fausse joie... en effet chez moi aussi les chemins uniquement sur OSM ne sont pas suivis... Donc je suis toujours a la recherche de ce logiciel ou site qui pourrait suivre les chemins OSM... et non pas ceux de google. Tu peux utiliser les services de routage qui permettent d'ajouter des viapoints. Je me sers de marble sous Kubuntu comme illustré ici pour construire des GPX : http://photos.dumoulin63.net/picture.php?/156/category/9 C'est peut-être faisable en ligne avec OSRM … Pour publier, j'utilise syj ou bien une page perso comme là : http://osm.dumoulin63.net/gpx/?zoom=13lat=45.77358lon=3.01895layers=0B00TT -- Nicolas Dumoulin http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:NicolasDumoulin ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Recherche personnes pour me former à OSM (cartographie en ligne, cartes sur site perso...)
Bonjour Frédéric ' fclementz '. Je vous propose de venir participé à la prochaine réunion des contributeurs / contributrices à OpenStreetMap, qui va se tenir ce lundi 21 mai 2012 à partir de 20h00, à La Bo[a]te, c'est à proximité du cours d'Estienne d'Orves, c'est rue de La Paix. Voir le lien vers le plan de situation : http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=43.29213amp;lon=5.3730645amp;zoom=18amp;layers=Mamp;mlat=43.29210amp;mlon=5.37297 lors de notre réunion vous pourrai rencontré la ou les personne(s) qui pourront vous répondre aux différentes questions que vous vous posez. Si vous compter venir, nous avons l'habitude que chacun amène quelque chose à manger ou / et à boire. Vous pouvez dors et déjà visiter la page du Wiki d' Openstreetmap consacrer aux réunions du groupe de Marseille, voir ce lien : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Marseille/R%C3%A9unions_2012 Dans l'attente de vous rencontré... Merci de répondre. Sincères salutations. Olivier Griffet | Contributeur OpenStreetMap = http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/olivier_griffet_83660_carnoules | | Habitant de 83660 - Carnoules - Var | Adhérent de GULLIVAR et ToulonuX | Utilisateur de GNU/LINUX de Linux Mint 11 [ Gnome ] + Lives USB (X)Ubuntu 12.04 [ XFCE ] ; ToutouLinux 4.3.1 et aussi les Lives CDs ASRI.EDU.2.1a ; Etc... --- Site web de GULLIVAR : http://gullivar.org/ Site web de ToulonuX : http://toulonux.tuxfamily.org/ Le 20 mai 2012 14:09, fclementz fcleme...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, J'habite Marseille, et je souhaite créer un site web sur lequel je proposerai gratuitement des itinéraires de randonnées sur fond de carte OSM. Je créé mon site, ou plutôt un blog, sur WordPress. Donc je souhaite y faire figurer des cartes avec des traces, et d'autres informations essentielles au randonneurs (informations données par l'API Géoportail de l'IGN), tels que des graphiques de variation de dénivelés, les distances... Le problème c'est que je suis novice dans le domaine, et que j'ai beaucoup de mal à comprendre et maîtriser comment ça marche. Ainsi, je souhaiterais me faire former par une personne maîtrisant OSM et ses différentes fonctionnalités, ainsi que l'export de données de cartographie sur un site web perso. D'avance je vous remercie pour vos réponses, j'en ai vraiment besoin. Bien sûr je me déplacerai pour rencontrer la personne formatrice. Vous pouvez me répondre sur mon adresse perso : fcleme...@laposte.net Bien cordialement, Frédéric ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Le 20/05/2012 14:56, PierreV a écrit : Peut etre que quelqu'un en a déja parlé sur cette ML... mais je souhaite quand meme vous partager ma découverte: Je cherchais un site pour creer des traces GPS a partir d'un fond de carte. Je ne pensais vraiment pas trouver un site basé sur OSM, mais plutot sur IGN ou Googlemap... mais voici un site qui combine les 3 fonds de carte: http://www.circuits-de-france.com/index.php Ce qui est génial c'est que lorsqu'on utilise le fond OSM, il suit automatiquement les chemins de la DBB OSM... Pour l'instant j'ai pas encore trop eu l'occasion de l'explorer a fond... mais c'est déja un bon début. Avez-vous peut etre dans vos lien un site similaire voire peut etre encore mieux? Dans mes liens, il y a ça : http://map.meurisse.org/ sur un principe bien différent : on trace un chemin... Dans mes cartons, j'ai un prototype d'ébauche de projet... http://frvipofm.net/osm/wanderer/images/ Une petite idée de ce que ça pourrait donner. Mais ça n'avance pas vite, faute de temps et d'habilité à programmer. -- FrViPofm ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM
Le 21/05/2012 à 00:30:51 +1100 PierreV belett...@hotmail.fr a écrit Objet: [OSM-talk-fr] creer des traces GPX sur fond OSM : a mince... bon ben fausse joie... en effet chez moi aussi les chemins uniquement sur OSM ne sont pas suivis... Donc je suis toujours a la recherche de ce logiciel ou site qui pourrait suivre les chemins OSM... et non pas ceux de google. charger la zone dans JOSM, sélectionner les ways que l'on veut avoir, les copier dans un nouvel calque, les découper pour avoir juste les tronçons voulus et puis enregistrer en GPS ? -- Cordialement Hendrik Oesterlin - Nouvelle-Calédonie ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] OSM本作成（翻訳）プロジェクト参加者募集→初版リリース！
東です。 第14章「あなたのウェブサイトでマップを提供する」について、 実際に設定を試した方がレポートを書いてくださいました。 最新の詳細な情報が記載されていますので マップ配信サーバ設置を試してみたい方は下記記事を参照ください。 OpenStreetMapデータを使って地図サーバを構築してみた http://blog.bitmeister.jp/?p=2573 2012/05/17 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 遅くなりましたが、清野さん、ikiyaさん、コメントありがとうございます。 あらためて読み返すとtypoが結構ありますね。 近いうちにv1.1をリリースします。 カラー印刷の件も含めてflossmanuals http://www.flossmanuals.net/ で編集・推敲を手伝ってくださる方を募集致します。 参加頂ける方がおられましたら私宛直メールください。 東 2012/05/15 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 データを利用してA5サイズで自作製本してみました。 128ページでやや厚めの紙を使って化粧表紙なしで 製本厚さ6mm程度でした。 気になった点ですが、オンデマンド印刷する際に 白黒印刷とカラー印刷でコストが違うので 自作で印刷するにしても白黒印刷で 印刷できると費用が安くすみます。 ただ、白黒だけだとデザイン的にさみしかったり 不明瞭な部分もでてきます。 文章は全て白黒印刷で問題ありませんが 差し込んだ画面キャプチャとかで 白黒印刷では見えないところもあるので 手を加えたほうが良いかと思う箇所がありました。 JOSM編集のＰ61、P62など（私が入れた絵ですが (汗; また参考まで、先輩のOpenStreetMap本では http://www.amazon.co.jp/Openstreetmap-Using-Enhancing-Free-World/dp/1906860114/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8qid=1337050005sr=8-5 基本、全体（330ページ）白黒印刷にして、カラーで見せたいキャプチャや写真等は 1セクション（32ページ）にまとめてその部分のみカラー印刷して綴じる際にいっしょに しています。 --- On Mon, 2012/5/14, Yoichi SEINO say.n...@gmail.com wrote: 清野です。 遅ればせながら、初版リリースおめでとうございます。 お疲れ様でした。 当初、お手伝いしようかと思っていたのですが、 結局私事で忙しく、お手伝いできませんでした。 申し訳ございませんでした。 これから読ませていただいて、勉強させて頂きます。 2012年5月14日 9:08 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 OSM本（翻訳）初版リリース、おめでとう？ございます。 東さん、翻訳作業、製本化のとりまとめ、感謝いたします。 第１版のリリースで今後の発展も容易になったと思います。 早速、使わせていただきます。 --- On Sun, 2012/5/13, Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: 東です。 みなさんの協力により翻訳作業が完了しましたので初版をリリース致します。 協力頂いたみなさまに、改めて感謝致します。 詳細、及びダウンロード先は下記を参照ください。 http://openstreetmap.jp/node/109 typo、翻訳の誤り、などありましたらこの場か、私宛の直メールでお知らせください。 この先は未定ですが、要望があれば内容を加筆した第２版の作成も検討したいと 考えています。 2012/04/03 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: いいださん、了解です。 スクリーンショットは確かに、今採れませんね。。 12/04/02 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いいだです。 ドラフト版作成、おつかれさまです！ いいだの名前は、いまの通りで結構です。 スクリーンショットは折を見て取得します。 (編集機能復旧 ≒ お花見時期後になるかもですが(^^; ) 2012年3月31日21:29 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 文章の校正がほぼ終わり、とりあえずのドラフト版を作成しました。 http://booki.flossmanuals.net/openstreetmap_ja/_full/ 翻訳に協力頂いた方へ確認のお願いです。 いちばん最後にあるクレジット表記の部分にWikiに書いて頂いた名前を転記しました。 この表記で良いか、確認頂けますか。 変更等ありましたら私の方に直接お知らせください。 スクリーンショットはまだ一部しか日本語版になっていませんので 作業頂ける方は引き続きwikiに貼り付け、または私宛てに 直接お送りください。 PDF/ePub化はちょっと手間取っています。。 12/03/02 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 この件、多くの方々の支援を頂き、とりあえず一通りの訳が終わりました。 順調なペースです。 協力頂いたみなさま、ありがとうございました。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Higa4/OSM_book_Japan 次の目標は下記２点で、３月いっぱいをメドにしたいと思います。 ・英文を含む画像を日本語のものに張替える ・現在の下訳を下に、意味が取れるか、訳語は統一されているか といった観点で校正 あまり厳密でなくても、間違っても構いませんので お手伝いいただける方がおられましたらよろしくお願いします 着手前に作業担当を宣言する方式になっています。 不明点等ありましたらこのMLか、Wikiの議論ページでお願いします。 その後は４月いっぱいかけて最終校正、電子フォーマット化、という手順で 予定しています。 12/01/07 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 まとまった日本語リソースの不足を常々感じておりますが 日本語による初のまとまったOSM解説本の作成・出版を目指して協力者を募集致します。 イチから内容を考え始めるといつまでもできない気がするので CC-BY-SAで公開されている 「OpenStreetMap A new user's guide」 というテキストを翻訳して電子出版したいと考えています。 上記原文はFLOSS Manualsというオープンソースのマニュアルを電子出版するサイト http://www.flossmanuals.net/openstreetmap/ で作成されており、表紙や目次を自動的に付けてくれたり PDFやepub形式に変換したり 電子出版と連携して販売できるようになっています。 （このサイト自体オープンソースで開発されています） 連携している電子出版サイトのひとつ「LuLu.com」 http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/openstreetmap/18173430?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1 では私も１冊買ってみましたが送料込みで1200円ほどでした。 （この本は先日いいださんが翻訳してくださったLearnOSMをベースに 内容を拡充したものです。） 日本語も通るようなので、この仕組みをそのまま使うのも有力な候補ですが 国内の電子出版サービスもあるようなので 最終的にどれを使うかは、少し時間を掛けて決めていきたいと思います。 興味ある方がおられましたら、下記Wikiを参照の上ご参加ください。 好きな場所（章）を選んで訳して頂く形式になっています。 （Wikiの更新にはアカウントが必要です） http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Higa4/OSM_book_Japan ご不明点などありましたらこの場か、私宛てに直メールください。 複数の方に参加頂けるようであれば、別途MLなどを用意したいと思います。 よろしくお願いします。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSM-ja] OSM本作成（翻訳）プロジェクト参加者募集→初版リリース！
Ｔｏｍです。 翻訳ご苦労様です。 早速、拝見し、要修正点とか、少し見つけましたので、こちらに投げておきます。 ｐ１４： 「ｗ私たちが」 ↓ 「私たちが」 ｐ109： svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org/ （URLの終わりが切れているっぽいです。原文をご確認ください。） おそらく、 http://svn.openstreetmap.org/applications/utils/export/osm2pgsql/ かと思われます。 2012年5月20日 18:39 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 第14章「あなたのウェブサイトでマップを提供する」について、 実際に設定を試した方がレポートを書いてくださいました。 最新の詳細な情報が記載されていますので マップ配信サーバ設置を試してみたい方は下記記事を参照ください。 OpenStreetMapデータを使って地図サーバを構築してみた http://blog.bitmeister.jp/?p=2573 2012/05/17 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 遅くなりましたが、清野さん、ikiyaさん、コメントありがとうございます。 あらためて読み返すとtypoが結構ありますね。 近いうちにv1.1をリリースします。 カラー印刷の件も含めてflossmanuals http://www.flossmanuals.net/ で編集・推敲を手伝ってくださる方を募集致します。 参加頂ける方がおられましたら私宛直メールください。 東 2012/05/15 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 データを利用してA5サイズで自作製本してみました。 128ページでやや厚めの紙を使って化粧表紙なしで 製本厚さ6mm程度でした。 気になった点ですが、オンデマンド印刷する際に 白黒印刷とカラー印刷でコストが違うので 自作で印刷するにしても白黒印刷で 印刷できると費用が安くすみます。 ただ、白黒だけだとデザイン的にさみしかったり 不明瞭な部分もでてきます。 文章は全て白黒印刷で問題ありませんが 差し込んだ画面キャプチャとかで 白黒印刷では見えないところもあるので 手を加えたほうが良いかと思う箇所がありました。 JOSM編集のＰ61、P62など（私が入れた絵ですが (汗; また参考まで、先輩のOpenStreetMap本では http://www.amazon.co.jp/Openstreetmap-Using-Enhancing-Free-World/dp/1906860114/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8qid=1337050005sr=8-5 基本、全体（330ページ）白黒印刷にして、カラーで見せたいキャプチャや写真等は 1セクション（32ページ）にまとめてその部分のみカラー印刷して綴じる際にいっしょに しています。 --- On Mon, 2012/5/14, Yoichi SEINO say.n...@gmail.com wrote: 清野です。 遅ればせながら、初版リリースおめでとうございます。 お疲れ様でした。 当初、お手伝いしようかと思っていたのですが、 結局私事で忙しく、お手伝いできませんでした。 申し訳ございませんでした。 これから読ませていただいて、勉強させて頂きます。 2012年5月14日 9:08 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 OSM本（翻訳）初版リリース、おめでとう？ございます。 東さん、翻訳作業、製本化のとりまとめ、感謝いたします。 第１版のリリースで今後の発展も容易になったと思います。 早速、使わせていただきます。 --- On Sun, 2012/5/13, Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: 東です。 みなさんの協力により翻訳作業が完了しましたので初版をリリース致します。 協力頂いたみなさまに、改めて感謝致します。 詳細、及びダウンロード先は下記を参照ください。 http://openstreetmap.jp/node/109 typo、翻訳の誤り、などありましたらこの場か、私宛の直メールでお知らせください。 この先は未定ですが、要望があれば内容を加筆した第２版の作成も検討したいと 考えています。 2012/04/03 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: いいださん、了解です。 スクリーンショットは確かに、今採れませんね。。 12/04/02 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いいだです。 ドラフト版作成、おつかれさまです！ いいだの名前は、いまの通りで結構です。 スクリーンショットは折を見て取得します。 (編集機能復旧 ≒ お花見時期後になるかもですが(^^; ) 2012年3月31日21:29 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 文章の校正がほぼ終わり、とりあえずのドラフト版を作成しました。 http://booki.flossmanuals.net/openstreetmap_ja/_full/ 翻訳に協力頂いた方へ確認のお願いです。 いちばん最後にあるクレジット表記の部分にWikiに書いて頂いた名前を転記しました。 この表記で良いか、確認頂けますか。 変更等ありましたら私の方に直接お知らせください。 スクリーンショットはまだ一部しか日本語版になっていませんので 作業頂ける方は引き続きwikiに貼り付け、または私宛てに 直接お送りください。 PDF/ePub化はちょっと手間取っています。。 12/03/02 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 この件、多くの方々の支援を頂き、とりあえず一通りの訳が終わりました。 順調なペースです。 協力頂いたみなさま、ありがとうございました。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Higa4/OSM_book_Japan 次の目標は下記２点で、３月いっぱいをメドにしたいと思います。 ・英文を含む画像を日本語のものに張替える ・現在の下訳を下に、意味が取れるか、訳語は統一されているか といった観点で校正 あまり厳密でなくても、間違っても構いませんので お手伝いいただける方がおられましたらよろしくお願いします 着手前に作業担当を宣言する方式になっています。 不明点等ありましたらこのMLか、Wikiの議論ページでお願いします。 その後は４月いっぱいかけて最終校正、電子フォーマット化、という手順で 予定しています。 12/01/07 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 まとまった日本語リソースの不足を常々感じておりますが 日本語による初のまとまったOSM解説本の作成・出版を目指して協力者を募集致します。 イチから内容を考え始めるといつまでもできない気がするので CC-BY-SAで公開されている 「OpenStreetMap A new user's guide」 というテキストを翻訳して電子出版したいと考えています。 上記原文はFLOSS Manualsというオープンソースのマニュアルを電子出版するサイト http://www.flossmanuals.net/openstreetmap/ で作成されており、表紙や目次を自動的に付けてくれたり PDFやepub形式に変換したり 電子出版と連携して販売できるようになっています。 （このサイト自体オープンソースで開発されています） 連携している電子出版サイトのひとつ「LuLu.com」 http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/openstreetmap/18173430?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1 では私も１冊買ってみましたが送料込みで1200円ほどでした。 （この本は先日いいださんが翻訳してくださったLearnOSMをベースに 内容を拡充したものです。） 日本語も通るようなので、この仕組みをそのまま使うのも有力な候補ですが 国内の電子出版サービスもあるようなので 最終的にどれを使うかは、少し時間を掛けて決めていきたいと思います。 興味ある方がおられましたら、下記Wikiを参照の上ご参加ください。 好きな場所（章）を選んで訳して頂く形式になっています。 （Wikiの更新にはアカウントが必要です） http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Higa4/OSM_book_Japan ご不明点などありましたらこの場か、私宛てに直メールください。 複数の方に参加頂けるようであれば、別途MLなどを用意したいと思います。 よろしくお願いします。 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org
Re: [OSM-ja] Bingのズレ調整について
MontBlancです。 画像のずれに関してですが、ある地図作成会社の人と話す機会がありました。 大震災後に東北地方を精密に測定したということでずれについて貴重な意見を いただきました。太平洋側が震災前と比較し最大４・５メートルほど東にずれている ということです。 震災後の画像データではなければGPSを用いるほうがよいかもしれません。 以上 2012/5/20 Shu Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp: 東です。 2012/05/20 Satoshi IIDA nyamp...@gmail.com: いいだです。 画像のズレの数値化と共有は、僕も一時期やろうと思ったことがあります。 ただ、同じ地域をずっとマッピングしていると、同じ撮影日時であっても、少しずつ画像のオフセットが調整されている気がしています。 (あくまでも、気がするレベルですが。) 撮影日時を記録しておくのはかなり有効ではあるのですが、撮影日時が同じ状態でオフセットだけ修正された場合、一律化されたオフセット値はあまり意味が無いどころか、間違いを推奨するデータになってしまうおそれがあると思っています。 なのでいまでは、地域ごとの一律の数値化は、かなり難しいのじゃないか？と思っています。 オフセット値のカバー範囲を細かく確認するのはかなり大変な作業だと思います。 範囲の特定は課題ですね。 ただ、私自身は近いエリアで微妙にオフセット値がズレる、という経験はありません。 山間部が(ちゃんとオルソ化されていないので)ズレているということはよくあります。 それよりは、 ・GPSログをアップロードすることを推奨して、参照可能なデータの母数を増やす ・画像のズレを修正する手順を積極的に広める ことをしたほうが、将来的に見て良い方法なのじゃないかと思っています。 GPSログは大きなよりどころのひとつになるので既にアップロードされているところでも どんどんアップしましょう、ということですね。賛成です。 ズレを修正する手順もまとめましょう。 どこからやればいいかなぁ。。 他に参照可能なデータ、ということだと、電子基準点のデータが使えればかなり正確に調整ができるようになるのかな？ まずは評価が要りそうに思います。 震災によるズレも、まだ全て再計測はされていなかったかと。 このあたりは詳しい方に教えて頂きたいです。 2012年5月20日 0:57 ikiya insidekiwi...@yahoo.co.jp: ikiyaです。 Bingのオフセットをgpsログをもとに決める場合、 同時に取った複数のログを比べるとこんな具合です。 （ガーミンハンディGPS ３機種比較） ・車と徒歩 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qwPLHmrTMAk/T7e9uPqnwOI/C_8/IuJXgb6GhVc/s1600/ga3a.jpg ・車 http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ceASKdurjoM/T7e9ueeFy7I/DAI/0MDi4lEJOPw/s1600/ga3b.jpg マッピングでハンディGPS３機種同時に携行するケースはほとんどないと思うので 普段はこの３つログのうちいずれか１つを見てBingのずれを決めていることになります。 この程度のログ同士のずれは日常あります。 それでもGPSログからBingのズレ傾向は読めるので、条件にもよりますが ログは相対的な基準になると思います。 参考まで。 --- On Sat, 2012/5/19, Yoichi SEINO say.n...@gmail.com wrote: 清野です。 たしか、全世界規模でBingの空中写真のズレを共有してみんなで参照できるようにしよう、という取り組みがあったと思ったのですが、 それが東さんの仰るAPIでどうこうしようとしていたちごっこでうまくいっていないもののことなのでしたっけ…? 何らかの対策は取りたいですね。 もちろん、三浦さんの仰るようにソフトウェアで解決できればそれが一番スマートだと思いますが、 それが無理なら何か次善の方法や情報を共有する仕組みが作りたいですね。 こういう問題に対応する上でも、Bingのソースタグには時間属性を付けておきたいですね。 2012年5月19日土曜日 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 03:16:08PM +0900, Shu Higashi wrote: 書き忘れました。 APIでカバーしようという下記のような案も出ていたのですが Bing画像は入れ替わるので、いたちごっことなり、 機械的な対応は難しいのではないかと感じています。 確かに。 宮崎空港あたりは結構ずれていたのですが、今見たら 画像が更新されたらしく、ずれが収まっていました。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-GB] FW: 1:25,000 Provisional series completion (NLS)
Lester, you might let Chris Fleet know the area you think may have reference issues. I'm sure he will wish to verify in case there is a bust. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Lester Caine [mailto:les...@lsces.co.uk] Sent: 19 May 2012 16:16 To: 'talk-gb OSM List' Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] FW: 1:25,000 Provisional series completion (NLS) Andy Robinson wrote: Not necessary to update anything, it's just a matter of adding the new ref to make the NLS resource available to your favourite editor. Only thing I would coment on is that there does seem to be a substantial shift between the NLS scans and OSM in this area of the country, so I would question the accuracy of the referencing :( AH ... bad on England - OS One Inch, 1945-47 Subtle on the Great Britain - 1:1m - 1:63k, 1920 ( Almost just drawing widths, but seems to be shifted slightly even against OS OpenData ) but Great Britain - OS 1:25000, 1937-61 and Great Britain - OS One Inch, 1955-61 are mirroring OSM nicely ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] CycleStreets routing: now supports surface quality, barriers, traffic calming, lighting
We're pleased to announce that we've extended the range of OSM tags that the CycleStreets routing engine uses to find cycle routes. This has helped us improve the quality of the suggested bike routes in two main ways: by handling the surface descriptions of the ways and accounting for the time delay caused by various obstacles along a route, as well as some other enhancements. The routing engine now newly takes notice, or takes more notice, of these aspects (where the data exists in OpenStreetMap) when planning journeys: - Surface quality (e.g. avoiding muddy bridleways) - All manner of hurdles (gates, bollards, barriers, kerbs) that can impede a cyclist's journey - The presence of traffic calming - Presence on a greater range of established route (e.g. mtb) - Streets with a cycle lane only on one side - Whether a path is lit A full list of tags added is at: http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2012/05/20/more-osm-tags-supported/ Based on the feedback we've seen recently these changes are already improving the quality of routes served to users, and so addition of more of this kind of data to OSM would be very welcome. Martin, ** CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By Cyclists Developer, CycleStreets ** http://www.cyclestreets.net/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-us] How do I fix dupe nodes in waterways?
On 5/20/2012 8:22 PM, James Umbanhowar wrote: I'm guessing that if you remove all the (superfluous) NHD:xxx tags, they will then become duplicate nodes in waterways, which I think can still be fixed in JOSM. Nope - removed all but waterway=* and I have the same problem. I've noticed boundary duplicated nodes showing up in errors and being fixable, but even removing all tags and adding boundary=administrative doesn't help in this case. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
