Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries

2010-04-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Chance [mailto:t...@acrewoods.net] wrote: Sent: 07 April 2010 11:41 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Ed Loach; Steve Doerr; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] West Mids Ward Boundaries On 7 April 2010 11:29, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com

Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Gregory wrote: Sent: 06 April 2010 6:18 AM To: John Smith Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] River boundaries , not Post code areas On 5 April 2010 20:35, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 April 2010 13:19, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: The river

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Separation of sources

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Martin - CycleStreets wrote: I agree in an ideal world, ground-surveys done from first principles will be preferable. But the fact is that there remain areas of the country that routing. Wolverhampton and Newcastle for instance are places which we certainly would love to see become usable for

Re: [Talk-GB] Separation of sources

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Martin - CycleStreets wrote: I agree in an ideal world, ground-surveys done from first principles will be preferable. But the fact is that there remain areas of the country that routing. Wolverhampton and Newcastle for instance are places which we certainly would love to see become usable for

Re: [Talk-GB] tracing lakes with Potlatch

2010-04-06 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Henry Gomersall wrote: Sent: 06 April 2010 5:39 PM To: Jason Cunningham Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] tracing lakes with Potlatch On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 17:26 +0100, Jason Cunningham wrote: The detail for water is excellent and may be the most 'detailed' vector data OS is

Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Kevin Peat wrote: Sent: 05 April 2010 7:50 PM To: David Earl; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] building shapes from OS Street View In the absence of vector data I agree that a controlled way of auto-tracing the building outlines (a JOSM plug-in would be ideal for me) is the way to

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Jason Cunningham wrote: Sent: 05 April 2010 7:53 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey On 5 April 2010 14:10, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote: Put differently -- can anyone think of any specific reason why we can't start tracing?

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-03 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Loach wrote: Sent: 03 April 2010 7:35 AM To: 'Richard Fairhurst' Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey Richard wrote: OS have also just announced what VectorMap District, available for free at the start of May, is going to look like: Pretty, but still no

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
You will find links and info from this morning on the talk-gb list Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Lester Caine Sent: 01 April 2010 11:06 AM To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The problem with Meridian 2 is that it's a sampled set, so it's not as spatially accurate as we would like. The objects are present, but we can do better with shape if we wait, as TomH says, till the Vector Map District. We know that with lots of high quality GPS traces we can get very close to

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I'm not sure the OS has reliable footpath data for the countryside anyway. Last time I chatted with the OS about this they were interested in whether OSM could work with them to update rural ROW footpaths because they don't survey them anymore. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] wrote: Sent: 01 April 2010 3:06 PM To: Kai Krueger Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 'talk-gb' Subject: Re: Ordnance Survey On 01/04/10 14:42, Kai Krueger wrote: Perhaps even easier and a bigger win, would be to import the postcode data. It is only

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-03-31 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Slap on the back all round I think. I'll raise a glass at the Brum social tomorrow night :-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 31 March 2010 9:36 PM To:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Open Postal Addresses

2010-03-31 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
...@bethere.co.uk] Sent: 31 March 2010 5:54 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Open Postal Addresses Even so, parts of Sutton Coldfield have good coverage ;-) Andrew On 31 Mar 2010, at 17:45, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2010-03-31 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Slap on the back all round I think. I'll raise a glass at the Brum social tomorrow night :-) Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 31 March 2010 9:36 PM To:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Kidderminster

2010-03-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Hi Mary, Great you will be coming along to Kidderminster. Happy to take you over. I'll need to take my car because of the bike (room for more on the roof too, that's bikes of course not people! ;-) ) You popping along to the social on Thursday? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] M42, J6

2010-03-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Oh, I also noted we seem to have rather a lot of tertiary roads in Hampton. Old Station Road doesn't look to be tertiary for me. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] Sent: 29 March 2010 9:49 AM To: 'Brian Prangle'; 'Ed

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] M42, J6

2010-03-29 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed Loach [mailto:e...@loach.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 29 March 2010 9:58 AM To: 'Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)'; 'Brian Prangle' Cc: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] M42, J6 Andy wrote: It's an odd configuration. The A45 goes over the M42

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] XAPI lagging behind by days?

2010-03-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The route_ref tag is extremely useful in the west midlands because all physical bus stops carry the full list of route numbers visiting the stop on the sign plate, this makes data gathering on the ground very easy and generally I don't set up the route relation until I've done all the stops in an

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] XAPI lagging behind by days?

2010-03-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The only reason I prefer a verified=yes rather than the tag deleted is that at least it tells me the stop is verified. If the tag is deleted it might be verified or might be that the tag was deleted. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-

Re: [Talk-GB] XAPI lagging behind by days?

2010-03-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The route_ref tag is extremely useful in the west midlands because all physical bus stops carry the full list of route numbers visiting the stop on the sign plate, this makes data gathering on the ground very easy and generally I don't set up the route relation until I've done all the stops in an

Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-03-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I'll bring this up at our monthly mappa-mercia social next week as our group would also benefit from a chapter and it might be there is enough interest within to getting one up and running. It would be good to hear from the London and other close knit groups on their views/support? Cheers Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] XAPI lagging behind by days?

2010-03-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The only reason I prefer a verified=yes rather than the tag deleted is that at least it tells me the stop is verified. If the tag is deleted it might be verified or might be that the tag was deleted. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-

[Talk-GB] Request - a query run if someone has a moment?

2010-03-22 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
If someone has a few mins and wishes to have a go at the following little task I'd be very grateful. I need to establish the closest libraries in proximity (via any transport method) to the Sustrans national cycle network (NCN RCN) within the City of Birmingham boundary (details below). The

[Talk-GB] FW: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4

2010-03-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
-Original Message- From: Nick Millea [mailto:nick.mil...@bodleian.ox.ac.uk] Sent: 19 March 2010 9:13 AM To: lis-m...@jiscmail.ac.uk; carto-...@lists.shef.ac.uk; maph...@geo.uu.nl Subject: [carto-soc] Maps on Radio 4 Dear All, Apologies for cross-posting. Starting on Monday, 3.45pm

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Logo vote

2010-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Well, you wouldn't be saying that if you had to sift through those 300 emails yourself! Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:dev-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Graham Jones Sent: 17 March 2010 6:14 PM To: SteveC Cc: dev list; Talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Footpath numbering

2010-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I've last week added all the ref= numbers for my local footpaths. I went into the library and took the definitive written route description book off the shelf, not the map. Is the written list that is definitive (or at least used to be). Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
We've been using it on the http://mappa-mercia.org/public-transport-map.shtml site for the last year and it's been invaluable. Generally the updates have been about a week to 10 days behind but sometimes up to 3 weeks in the past. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [OSM-talk] Getting 403-Forbidden from my app that WAS on sale onthe appstore

2010-03-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Message- From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] Sent: 16 March 2010 8:51 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'IgnacioZ'; 'osm' Subject: Re: Getting 403-Forbidden from my app that WAS on sale onthe appstore On 16/03/10 08:41, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Be aware also

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10

2010-03-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sent: 12 March 2010 7:07 AM To: Al Haraka Cc: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] GSoC'10 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:11 AM, Al Haraka alhar...@gmail.com wrote: It's completely not the osm way *as I interpret it* and isn't going to

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Making

2010-03-09 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Bruce, here is your starting point: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik As well as http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmarender Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Foster Sent: 09

Re: [Talk-GB] rendering locks

2010-03-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Al Girling wrote: Sent: 08 March 2010 4:49 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] rendering locks On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:32:59PM GMT, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Steve Chilton wrote: two nodes with waterway=lock_gate at either end of a way tagged waterway=canal;lock=yes

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network - filling the gaps - NCN54

2010-03-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 08 March 2010 11:24 PM To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network - filling the gaps - NCN54 Someoneelse wrote: Another North Midlands one that could do with checking is NCN54: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=37545 OSM

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday Social

2010-03-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
It is indeed Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Gavin Clark Sent: 04 March 2010 5:26 PM To: talk-gb-westmidlands OSM Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Thursday Social Is

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Kidderminster/Bewdley Mapping Party (SatMap) on Saturday 17th April 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Mappa Mercia team is organising a mapping party in Kidderminster on Saturday 17th April to support new OSM user there. Add your name to the wiki if you will be coming. More details to follow. http://is.gd/9GHqU Cheers Andy ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands

Re: [Talk-GB] Kent County Council Highways Gazetteer

2010-03-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
If this information is available then its useful data within OSM in the same way that references to gritting routes and customary bus stops are useful. However, because these things are difficult or impossible to verify on the ground its doubly important that if they are added to the database they

[Talk-GB] Kidderminster/Bewdley Mapping Party (SatMap) on Saturday 17th April 2010

2010-03-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Mappa Mercia team is organising a mapping party in Kidderminster on Saturday 17th April to support new OSM user there. Add your name to the wiki if you will be coming. More details to follow. http://is.gd/9GHqU Cheers Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-03-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andrew M. Bishop wrote: Sent: 28 February 2010 5:11 PM To: Brian Prangle Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map? Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com writes: Can't seem to find Birmingham in your drop down list of bondaries! The list of boundaries is

Re: [OSM-talk] will walkingpapers printed on black and white work?

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Simon Hewison wrote: Sent: 26 February 2010 10:55 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] will walkingpapers printed on black and white work? On 26/02/2010 08:25, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I am using walking-papers printed on black white laser printing but I didn't tried

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hi from Kidderminster

2010-02-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Welcome Gavin, Kiderminster is pretty much a blank canvas at the moment and I don't think it has any existing mappers other than those who have passed through and added the main thoroughfares. It's a place we could help get kick stared and give you a little support, and focus for what time you

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham Social (reminder)

2010-02-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A reminder that you are very welcome to join the OSM social evening in Birmingham next Thursday, 4th March. Venue is the City Tavern, Bishopsgate Street, off Broad Street, Birmingham (near Five Ways). We meet from 7pm, normally in the back room. The pub does curry and a pint for under a fiver

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-02-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Childs wrote: Sent: 25 February 2010 7:53 AM To: peter.r...@aligre.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map? snip Thinking about this probably the best way to collect this data is to map who has there rubbish collected on which day of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-02-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Reed Sent: 24 February 2010 1:17 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map? Steve, It needn't be parishes. For population data it looks as though I can get down to ward level with up-to-date numbers from ONS.

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-02-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Steve Doerr wrote: Sent: 23 February 2010 2:43 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map? On 23/02/2010 14:18, Peter Reed wrote: We start with a list of about 1,600 UK settlements, and a figure for the population that lives there. Baring a few errors and

Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map?

2010-02-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Steve Doerr wrote: Sent: 23 February 2010 3:45 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Looking for places to map? On 23/02/2010 15:02, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Steve Doerr wrote: OK. How can we help in supplying better boundary information? For instance

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] BBC Midlands today - Gritting routes

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
-Original Message- From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] Sent: 18 February 2010 2:08 PM To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org; t...@mappa-mercia.org Subject: BBC Midlands today - Gritting routes Yay, the BBC have picked up on the gritting routes. Their science

Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 17 February 2010 6:10 PM To: Jonathan Bennett Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties On 17/02/2010 18:07, Jonathan Bennett wrote: The residential areas and suburbs of *any* town aren't places you'd normally go unless you had to,

Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A few comments and observations from setting up some of the previous parties. The location doesn't really seem to matter. People will come if it's advertised well and a core group agree to attend. Then things seem to click. Having a novel idea, like a mini bus, canal boat, cottage, bbq, hot tub

Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] wrote: Sent: 18 February 2010 2:27 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Two dozen mapping parties Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: A few comments and observations from setting up some

Re: [Talk-GB] BBC Midlands today - Gritting routes

2010-02-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
-Original Message- From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] Sent: 18 February 2010 2:08 PM To: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; t...@mappa-mercia.org Subject: BBC Midlands today - Gritting routes Yay, the BBC have picked up on the gritting routes. Their science

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Fwd: BCC corrections to gritting routes

2010-02-05 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Great work Brian and all. I increased the size of permissible mail to this list to 100KB as this post was caught by the 40KB limit. There are some (some diehard mailing list aficionados) who disapprove of attachments being sent to mailing lists. Unless I receive complaints I shall let any that

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for user block

2010-02-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Fawcett wrote: Sent: 04 February 2010 2:30 PM To: John Smith Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Request for user block I think that that it would be useful to have a dedicated email account(s) or Web form(s) for reporting map abuse and wiki spam. That would limit the

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] City centre buildings

2010-01-28 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ wrote: Sent: 26 January 2010 9:54 PM To: Peter Millar Cc: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] City centre buildings On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 13:45 -0800, Peter Millar wrote: I think Delete it and replace it with the building shape would be the right

Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25K tracing

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
+1 Power lines is a good example. We have some that were added for Birmingham from the 1:25k which are no longer present. Its easy to fix but a task we needn't have to do if folks traced what they know is present still on the ground. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

2010-01-22 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping On Thursday 21 January 2010, Jonathan Bennett wrote: On 21/01/2010 15:21, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Maybe a big map of Haiti or something? Hardly a valid criticism of OS though, is it? You don't have any maps of Haiti

Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping

2010-01-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Robert Scott wrote: Sent: 21 January 2010 2:53 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS DG Vanessa Lawrence on the Future of mapping Yes, I may go. Prominent OSM tshirts or are we going clandestine? You have to make a splash! If the banner hadn't been nicked in MK I'd suggest

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] Gritting Routes

2010-01-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
In looking at the other areas of the West Mids its clear that the priority basis is applied differently for different regions/councils. For instance in Brum most general bus routes are in Priority 3 whereas Wolverhampton states that bus routes are in Priority 1. As we add stuff we may find that

Re: [Talk-GB] Gritting Routes

2010-01-20 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Indeed, nice that they added the link today. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst Sent: 20 January 2010 5:22 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gritting

Re: [Talk-GB] Gritting Routes

2010-01-19 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
mappers got going. Could you explain what your base information was, how you got hold of it and on what license? Thanks, Peter Regards Brian 2010/1/18 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com The West Mids folks have been busy over

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting map

2010-01-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Looking great. I popped out at lunchtime and picked up some of the grit bins in Sutton Coldfield. The places to look at pretty obvious; at the top, bottom or middle of hills that are not on a gritting route and outside schools that are not on a gritting route. Cheers Andy -Original

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting routes in Birmingham

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Some contradiction for some sections between wards. Where its different priorities in adjacent wards. It will probably emerge logically once we have it all set and then we can post a query to BCC to clarify what's actually what. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting routes in Birmingham

2010-01-15 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
You might do another update later today if you have a moment. I’ve already added a lot more over lunch and a bit more to go before I stop. At this rate we should be done by later this evening ;-) Great work everyone. Lets keep the momentum going Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting routes in Birmingham

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
mappers to participate in updating the map? Andrew On 14 Jan 2010, at 17:31, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: That would be the plan. It's still fresh in everyone's minds right now so I suspect the newspapers would pick up on it if we got it done in the next few days and that’s a real

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting routes in Birmingham

2010-01-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Brian Prangle wrote: Sent: 14 January 2010 6:06 PM To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Gritting routes in Birmingham Looks like Christoph will be doing lots of re-rendering! As a by product I've discovered that lots of the primary/trunk roads which were

Re: [Talk-GB] More OS o-o-c sheets released

2010-01-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Robert Scott wrote: Sent: 07 January 2010 5:07 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] More OS o-o-c sheets released On Thursday 07 January 2010, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: If you are using Potlatch you can use Ctrl B I think to add an OS 1:25 source tag. In JOSM

Re: [Talk-GB] POI's for mass import?

2010-01-08 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
For post boxes see the work going on between OSM and Mathew Somerville's Draco's site at: http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/ Not aware of any public data sets of locations for either facility type, most probably because both are managed in the commercial sector, Post Boxes by Royal

Re: [Talk-GB] More OS o-o-c sheets released

2010-01-07 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] wrote: Sent: 07 January 2010 4:35 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] More OS o-o-c sheets released Andy This is fantastic. With your West country uploads I can now obsessively map the individual

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Coverage as at end 2009

2010-01-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Ed, btw, the Wolverhampton N/W 1:25k sheet is now out of copyright. I'll get that uploaded soon. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach Sent: 04 January 2010

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Reminder. Midlands Social in Birmingham. 7pm Thursday 7th Jan

2010-01-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A reminder that the first meeting of the New Year for the midlands OSMers is this Thursday evening from 7pm at the City Tavern in Birmingham. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia For those who have not been before, normally half a dozen folks turn up each month. It would be great to

Re: [Talk-GB] OS Free

2010-01-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
This will come up for review by the OSMF board, however it will need to OSM community to generate the views from which the board can prepare a single response. A single response from the OSMF doesn't stop individuals making their own response, but individuals won't be able to make the response in

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Happy New Year

2010-01-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Happy New Year folks. Lets hope 2010 is as great a year for OSM in the midlands as they have been to date. See you all on the 7th. Cheers Andy ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Aston uni residence towers coming down

2009-12-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Stafford, Dalton and Lawrence residence towers (each 20 stories) on the Aston uni campus are being demolished next year. A tour is being organised to visit them in Feb before they are felled. I'll try and go as I spent my first year in Stafford and my final year in Lawrence. It's a pity that the

[OSM-talk] Contribution graph

2009-12-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
I've added another OSM graph to the stats page. It shows the % contribution of ways (current table, no account for history) per editor. It reveals that 95% of the way data is contributed by just 10% of the contributor base. In fact 50% of way data has been contributed by just 31 user accounts

Re: [OSM-talk] Contribution graph

2009-12-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Martijn van Exel [mailto:mve...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 17 December 2009 4:04 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Contribution graph Intriguing, Andy. Thanks for adding this. Would be nice to be able to filter out the import-users when

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Digbeth Coach station

2009-12-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Cool :-) And RichardF tells me that the A46/M40 new junction layout is due to open today. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@googlemail.com] Sent: 14 December 2009 2:56 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] monthly get together

2009-12-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Yes, I'll be there and I think Brian is too. For latest and greatest on meet-ups its usually a good idea to check on mappa-mercia page of the wiki. See you Thursday. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-transit] Updating the NaPTAN busstops in Birmingham

2009-11-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Cheers Christoph, Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- westmidlands-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christoph Böhme Sent: 23 November 2009 1:19 PM To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics Cc:

Re: [OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm

2009-11-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Sent: 12 November 2009 7:35 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] changes not appearing in osm On Thursday 12 Nov 2009 12:56:58 pm Jukka Rahkonen wrote: I find that changes made even 5-6 days ago are not showing up either in mapnik or in osmarender. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question

2009-11-12 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy Allan [mailto:gravityst...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 12 November 2009 2:15 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: Ian Dees; OSM Talk; talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Addressing Question Ian Dees wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking at some donated street centerline data

Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs

2009-11-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 11 November 2009 4:05 PM To: Ed Avis Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Apostrophist corrects punctuation on street signs On 11/11/2009 14:31, Ed Avis wrote: Frustrated by living in St Johns Close, in Turnbridge Wells, Mr Gatward decided to buy a can of

Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building around the Angel areaof London?

2009-11-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nicely worded letter David. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of David Earl Sent: 11 November 2009 12:27 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Adding some additional building

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Sent: 02 November 2009 11:52 AM To: t...@openstreetmap.org Cc: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Illegal activity Pieren wrote: It's not the question about laws in France, Germany or US vs England. It's the question to know if OSM

[OSM-legal-talk] FW: [OSM-newbies] Attribution

2009-10-30 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Punted to legal-talk -Original Message- From: newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:newbies-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Chris Brierley Sent: 30 October 2009 9:22 PM To: newb...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-newbies] Attribution Hi all, Quick question if anyone is able

Re: [OSM-talk] Howto calibrate aerial images for OpenStreetMap?

2009-10-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Take a look at how the 1:25,000 UK mapping is being rectified. Link on that out of copyright page you quoted. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Valent Turkovic Sent: 26 October 2009 12:21 PM To:

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Wolverhampton this weekend - LUGRadio Live and OGGCamp

2009-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
A roundup of plans for this weekend in Wolverhampton. I will be at LUGRadio [1] live all day Saturday. Speaking about OSM at 3pm but plan to do some mapping during the morning as a method of producing an informal map of the venue. If you want to help me/meet up give me a call and I'll come out.

Re: [Talk-GB] Proper Rights of Way coverage map

2009-10-23 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Sent: 23 October 2009 10:43 AM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] Proper Rights of Way coverage map Hello everyone, Following on from the unintentional rights-of-way coverage map generated by zooming out from the OSM/First Edition mashup that I mentioned the

Re: [OSM-talk] Randomly disappearing streets

2009-10-22 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Shaun, You mean the examples Bev gave aren't good enough? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Shaun McDonald Sent: 22 October 2009 2:13 PM To: Bev M Ewen-Smith Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham/Solihull 1:25, 000 Out Of Copyright mapping now available

2009-10-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Year to be scanned and uploaded. Not long to wait now though. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com] Sent: 20 October 2009 8:28 AM To: 'Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)'; talk-gb- westmidla...@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lug Radio Live - How about a mapping party??

2009-10-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Andy -Original Message- From: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net] Sent: 18 October 2009 10:24 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Lug Radio Live - How about a mapping party?? Hi, have any plans been

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham/Solihull 1:25, 000 Out Of Copyright mapping now available

2009-10-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
). We still need sheets for Coventry for instance. I'll sponsor the sheet to the NE of Birmingham that has Sutton on it. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Christoph Böhme [mailto:christ...@b3e.net] Sent: 18 October 2009 10:22 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] OS 7th series, accuracy update, request for calibration help

2009-10-18 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tim, What's the scan file size? Will happily help look at calibration as I'm doing it all the time for the 1:25k so set up to do it easily. If I know the file size I can try a similar size on my box here. How many calibration points are you needing per sheet to do a reasonable job? Cheers Andy

[OSM-talk] New OSMF/OSM Blog

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
OSMF has established a new Blog which will be used to communicate official announcements and other OSM specific news. You can find it at http://blog.openstreetmap.org/ or http://blog.osmfoundation.org/ We've kicked off with a first blog about the procurement of the openstreetmaps.org domain and

Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 16 October 2009 10:30 AM To: Grant Slater Cc: Talk OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)? Hi, Grant Slater wrote: Brief API (+data format) history... 0.3 - (remove segments?) 0.4 - (+relations) 0.5 - (+changesets) 0.6 No, 0.3 and 0.4 were

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Birmingham/Solihull 1:25, 000 Out Of Copyright mapping now available

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
on ebay for much less (with 2027 in the set to collect its too much at £8 a sheet) but if anyone wants to sponsor a sheet I'll check what the current retail price is. Cheers Andy Christoph Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Some of you may know that I am

Re: [Talk-GB] Any more counties for NaPTAN import?

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter J Stoner wrote: Sent: 15 October 2009 10:29 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Any more counties for NaPTAN import? In message on 15 Oct 2009, Peter Miller wrote: Some 36 authorities already have NaPTAN (bus stop data) imported. There are another 6 waiting

Re: [Talk-GB] ernestmarples, post code database, etc

2009-10-16 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
See also EDM 2000: http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=39229SESSION=899 Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of TimSC Sent: 15 October 2009 6:30 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] walking-papers hanging?

2009-10-14 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Any particular part of the site? The site is accessible for me and I printed off a sheet the other day. I haven't however uploaded a scan and I note the last scan in the list on the site is 11 days ago now. Maybe that's your problem? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From:

[OSM-legal-talk] FW: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference 72267)

2009-10-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
As I suspected the OS has taken a hard line with respect to copyright and publication date. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Customer Services [mailto:customerservi...@ordnancesurvey.co.uk] Sent: 13 October 2009 2:10 PM To: blackadder...@googlemail.com Subject: Crown copyright

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: Crown copyright dates ( OS Reference 72267)

2009-10-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? -Original Message- From: legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Sent: 13 October 2009 15:33 To: 'Licensing and other legal discussions

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available

2009-10-11 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
(blackadder-lists) Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org; 'Steve Chilton'; 'Shaun McDonald' Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available On 07/10/2009 14:07, David Earl wrote: On 07/10/2009 12:28, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Which NPE WMS are you using. Is it by any change

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