Re: [OSM-talk] Speedflying lines on OSM

s disagree over whether the "correct" line is 20 metres to the west or 20 metres to the east, how can they meet at the location and settle their dispute by looking at the ground? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [OSM-talk] GeoJSON download: region, resolution

/europe/germany.html  is 4 GB and offers slightly more details than expected. Bonus would be some major topography, such as larger rivers TIA Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] Setting Up a New Mailing List for Montenegro

community.openstreetmap.org instead. See here https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/about-the-communities-category/80 for information on how to request a forum there. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09"

Re: [OSM-talk] When two bots go to war

___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

unity want to treat each other. It doesn't magically wrap people into a bubble in which nothing bad can ever happen - not in Nairobi, not in Brussels, not in New York. No code of conduct does that, nowhere. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing State of the Map 2024: Join us in Nairobi and online on 6-8 September 2024!

ne for the average European or American traveller. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding automated trees to OSM

How do you intend to upload the "image of tree" to OSM? Best Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

few days ago. Has everything I said been filed away under "pushback" and ignored? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

lk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey about OSM communication behaviors

roup of people would not be represented. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

t present so if anyone wants to take the above lists as a basis for deeper analysis... Cheers Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'

No. The restaurant has full control over if and when they move. But they have no control over if and when their OSM ID changes. This can happen at any time, without even the knowledge of the restaurant, and is therefore not comparable to the restaurant moving to another location. Bye Frederik -- Fre

Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'

no right to complain. Once we encourage people to create such links from outside applications that are unknown (and might be inaccessible) to us, these people will complain when links break. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-talk] Extending the 'geo:' uri scheme: Adding parameter 'osmid'

Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

d them all and delete them - just causes unnecessary strife. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

self-appointed cleaners running through OSM "because the wiki says so". Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

d it is no less insulting. Please remain civil even if people don't share your Wikidata enthusiasm. Throwing around a few insults may require less energy than making an argument but it doesn't help. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

Hi, On 30.09.22 13:36, Frederik Ramm wrote: You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else. It occurs to me that this is what usually happens in politics. Still, we should aim to be better ;) -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09&q

Re: [OSM-talk] remove link to Wikidata from infoboxes is a valid arg to remove it from wiki page and data items ?

activity has, in my opinion, no community backing and needs to be stopped and reverted. You can't have people vote on one thing and then do something else. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

, not less. Sincerely, Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Call to Take Action and Confront Systemic Offensive Behavior in the OSM Community

ht. I think that some of the suggestions you make have merit, and I find it very unfortunate that you're basically asking people to sign off on your list of good suggestions with a small aside of "BTW this Frederik Ramm guy has sent a dehumanizing message". Supporters of your documen

Re: [OSM-talk] Please review "Community attribution advice” wiki page

h". Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

Hi, it occurs to me that I should have provided more context to this message. I wrote: On 12/3/20 00:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: > People have thought the same about Donald Trump - yeah, this > whole grab-them-by-the-pussy talk is just showmanship and once elected > he'll be more pre

Re: [OSM-talk] I’m running for OSMF board and I’ve set up office hours for questions

residential. But don't be fooled. Mike is going to grab our licence by the pussy just as he promised he would, and he's being paid a fine salary for that from one of the most disturbing mega-corps on the planet. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°

Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page

Hi, I added a section explaining that the concept of privacy applies only to living human beings. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@ope

Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page

e to say "X is not listed on that page so I can map it!" Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples of good paid mapping?

Hi, On 9/11/20 23:57, Bryce Cogswell via talk wrote: > Exactly. When companies do it right nobody knows they’re doing it.  Except that - because they do it right - they will of course have documented their work on the wiki. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

Re: [OSM-talk] Separating all metadata from coordinates in OSM into a wikibase instance (Was: Re: Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM)

hat "linked data" is a hype that you are succumbing to. I also think that your use of the term "metadata" is wrong - in my mind, metadata would be data about the survey process (like e.g. a source tag), not qualities of objects we survey. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMa

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for Software Dispute Resolution Panel

ye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

ant and not because they have no other choice, then why not. If you look for principles and symbolism, yes Potlatch currently requires a non-free platform to run, but the OSMF trying to support a multitude of editors rather than pick one and support only that is IMHO a positive signal. Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

gt; (EWG) by making it a place for decision making, project guidance and > budget management for such projects. ... the EWG can take over that job ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Building a tile-server

d hence it will be easier to find someone to help you when there's a problem. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

idea are not impossible but rare; and erroneous or even rule-violating changesets are much more frequent among world-spanning changesets than among everyday small bbox changesets. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___

[OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

uot; or so. World-spanning changesets are a constant source of irritation, and very rarely intentional. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing lis

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

oject that OSMF now wants to nefariously take control of because it has proven successful. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Toward resolution of controversies related to iD

gauging the will of the OSM community has proven wrong; iD is a good editor but the iD team has too often treated the community with contempt (to the point of openly violating the code of conduct that the iD team had given themselves) and ignored valid concerns. The relationship hence cannot conti

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

ycling in forests in some parts of Germany, I think that legally it automatically becomes bicycle=no if width<2m but there's often discussions about just how much of the way needs to be <2m to make it off limits for cyclists. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org

Re: [OSM-talk] mspray stealth organized mapping

a elimination" is not enough to explain why you deleted dozens > of buildings). If you feel they are disregarding that message, we are happy to block them again. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] our Q&A site help.openstreetmap.org is dying

ving to keep the old system around in a read-only fashion is not super attractive either. Bye Frederik (frequent provider of answers on help.osm) -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" __

Re: [OSM-talk] Let's talk Attribution

deline. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality and the Openstreetmap value chain

e tools they need and let us have a dialogue with users about what they find useful, but if anything the users want means more complexity for mappers, I'm skeptical. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Help needed: OBS tutorial for Windows and Mac

's good, then by all means do a separate tutorial! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] healthsites.io breaks OSM data, do not use

ealthsites/healthsites/issues/1357#issuecomment-602068556 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] OSM is not the place for dissemination of authoritative data sets

reetMap - that mappers on the ground have the last word on what gets into OSM and what not - shouldn't be allowed to publish software that interacts with our database. I think we should disallow any contributions made with RapID/map-with-ai and friends. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm #

Re: [OSM-talk] Changeset Governance [was: Announcing Daylight Map Distribution]

source=XYZ aerial imagery would point to armchairing? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] The benefits of cross-linking OSM and Wikidata

Hi, On 05.03.20 15:25, Sören Reinecke via talk wrote: > couldn't we do a vote about that? Would it be possible for the OSMF to > maintain and coordinate such a voting. No. The OSMF is not at liberty to grant *anyone* exceptions from the ODbL. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ##

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

nyone noticing a change. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] MapRoulette - cryptic tasks

many tasks they're running and what instructions they are giving to users? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

OSM", then the discussion will have been valuable. We're not there yet though; we're kind of shouting down Tomek because he's aggressively questioning the status quo, but we haven yet managed to come up with a rule that would fortify the status quo. Bye Frederi

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

m the picture? How much of a trained AI remains if you remove OSM from the picture? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline update

to "contain" OSM in some way which would not be the case here; but I think this calls for working on ODbL 1.1 to rectify the issue, rather than sitting back and saying "uh, guess there's nothing we can do then". Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

ted for tags that don't have a human-readable page, and human-readable pages should be created by humans not bots. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

In fact I believe I have a bigger problem with people for whom this English name is a problem, because I would regard that attitude as fundamentalist and quarrelsome. I'd prefer if they find other battlegrounds to fight for justice than OSM. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OSM Anti-Fascist? (was: Cease use of OpenStreetMap/Antifa logo)

e have the time and energy for that. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [OSM-talk] OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

equipment first!!!") should not be in OSM, and we should not worship precision that we cannot create ourselves. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] Crimea situation - on the ground

by Russia is a realistic fear, whereas Martin happily fans the flames from a safe distance of over 2,000km away from the nearest Russian tank) - don't sacrifice the OTG rule. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #497 2020-01-21-2020-01-27

data, that's totally fine; only if you were to publish something that involves user data should you think twice about your data protection regulations. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #497 2020-01-21-2020-01-27

ers who log in with their OSM user name. > that will be millions of API calls to get the full history > of every node, way and relation involved. If it has to be, then it has > to be. Famous last words before being blocked on the API ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleting template parameters copied to data items

gree in Wikidata to even participate, and where anything you contribute will be mowed over three times by this bot and that bot in order to fit into some structure that someone else has devised with practically zero community oversight, I think I'll prefer the git-based human-readable &quo

[OSM-talk] international project communication (was: names of international objects)

d, or those who share your language will translate. If you *can* use English but don't use it because you want to make the point that the reliance on English is giving an unfair advantage to those who can use English - your point is taken, but see #1... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail f

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

e=continent node is the lesser evil. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

language for regions, so that, if you wanted to emulate today's rendering of the "local name" for everything, you'd first have to look up the local language prefix and then use the appropriate name:xx - but this was considered too complicated. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ##

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

ound the corner "exclude" billions of people from eating there because its menu is written only in Italian? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM very old data

re is size jump, which is strange. Is > there any reason for this? Possibly https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Old_TIGER_Import_2005/2006 Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM very old data

e lowest node ID in the country. Incidentally it is still the lowest node ID in the country today, but it is also the lowest node ID in that old planet file. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM very old data

re of any older files. But the amount of .cz data in that old planet file is so small (7251 nodes and 7453 extremely short ways) that it probably wouldn't make a lot of sense to go back further. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail fred

[OSM-talk] Birthplace of artist - how to map with Wikidata?

other than "is a building"). Is that even possible, or would it quickly be deleted in wikidata as not making sense on its own? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___

Re: [OSM-talk] MS GitHub? | Re: Tagging Governance

lable because plain text" comes at a price. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

unctionality with decent preview and > formatting but at the same time comes with a kind of version management > and functions to facilitate editorial review and discussion. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Governance

tiny little bit and somehow a coherent whole will emerge" kind of way. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous comments on notes now disabled

Hi, On 8/30/19 3:16 PM, Dave F via talk wrote: > Can they close their own notes? They never could. Being anonymous, there was no way to verify that the user wanting to close something was also the user who created it in the first place. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail fr

Re: [OSM-talk] Anonymous comments on notes now disabled

formation, we will be able > to close nearly all anonymous notes. This probably varies from region to region; I've seen many anonymous notes that did contain some useful information. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°

[OSM-talk] Anonymous comments on notes now disabled

fight a vandal creating new, useless notes (by just closing them) than it is to clean up their droppings from existing notes. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing the Tabang-AI initiative

ie-contributed stuff takes approximately as many person-hours as contributing the stuff in the first place. How will you ensure that you do not generate more contributions than you can ensure the quality for? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

o OSM by giving us money, or writing code, or organising meetups, is not part of the group that holds the rights in the map. I would find a simple "(c) OpenStreetMap" better, more snappy, more recognizable than if we demand that the "contributors" are mentioned. Bye Frederik --

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

hem probably would not mind their answers being published > anonymously. So essentially all you want is a fourth option in the initial "Permission" question that is called "Publicly, anonymized" ? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eM

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey on global and local communities in OpenStreetMap

want; and if you don't want it then you can *still* post your opinion on a mailing list or forum or your user diary, where you can speak directly without being interpreted by an intermediary - or even post your survey responses publicly like you did. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

? The board has neither discussed this nor taken any further steps. I don't know if any working group has. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mail

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

m Facebook and even if it weren't crassly over-sold to the press. I think that we are allowing corporate interests to take over the soul of OpenStreetMap, wring it dry, and spit it out in a couple of years when they find something else to play with.

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

Hi, On 25.07.19 22:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: > This press release is on the same level as "Cloudmade's > OpenStreetMap Project" so many years ago. In case anyone doubts that - https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2019/07/facebook-ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

n, but both are unlikely to happen. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

ake two separate ways, whereas a simple line would not. Way separation is not about the legal aspect ("do not cross this line") but about the physical. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] Reordering and rewriting Good Practice wiki page

not expect a generic link to a definition of the word "describe" or, as you put it, a link to the tag "description" - that's not helpful here, unnecessarily disrupts the reading flow, and even confusing when someone clicks on it. Bye Frederik -- Frede

Re: [OSM-talk] Règles d'éditions organisées / Directed editing guidelines

we'll repeat the request and take the measures needed to ensure compliance. Don't just sit there and sigh "it's just how I predicted, the world is ending and there's nothing I can do". Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09&q

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

thout ever being written down. If someone posts a question and three others tell them that this was not a good idea, they will likely learn, and everyone else who reads the exchange will learn, too. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23

[OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

27;t say who the user is - those of you who were involved will recognize it, and those who weren't probably shouldn't waste any time with it. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

on and don't participate further, and a very small number of these 620 answer all the questions. The mailing lists have fewer people participating but those that do are more likely to engage in a bidirectional fashion. It would be interesting to quantify this in a more scientific manner. Bye Fre

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - addition of office=diplomatic to amenity=embassy with country=*

need an automatic edit for it. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

dits/username" (where username is the OSM user name of the account that you will be using to perform the edits - think about this now so that you don't have to rename the page later), and add it to Category:Automated edits log." Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@rem

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

d from the OSMF. As you rightly say, while the OSMF board's cooperation might be required for a few legal aspects, there are many potential avenues of "direct action" that people could take to, but apparently the issue is not *that* big for most. Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

Hi, On 5/28/19 10:32, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I think this would definitely be the healthiest and most common-sense > approach for the community. (with my OSMF board hat on) I would like to make it clear that nothing of what I or any other OSMF board member has said in this thread or any

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

ture and I think that Andy is right in pointing out that an apology is in order - https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6442 - unless of course the the iD project's Code of Conduct has some magic "does not apply to maintainers" feature. -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@re

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

instead of "fuck you stinking mailing list pseudo community, I'll do what I please and anyway my friends all like it", it can be acceptable. AFAIK many editors for example silently drop "created-by" and didn't hear anyone complain about that. Bye Frederik -- Fre

[OSM-talk] correct (scholarly) attribution?

Hi, if someone writes a scientific paper and wants to reference an OSM data set they used, what would be the correct way to do that? Typically such mentions contain author and name of the work, and publication place and year. Or maybe the web-like "retrieved on ..."? Bye Frederik --

Re: [OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

veryone else, without resorting to "SEE, THIS IS WHY THERE IS NO PROGRESS" at every opportunity. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] uselessness of brand:wikipedia and brand:wikidata tags (was Re: Bank of India (and other) Wikidata tags)

ur tags as well. I'm realistic enough to accept that wikidata links are here to stay, but we have to rein in the "the more the merrier" thinking with regards to wikidata. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

Re: [OSM-talk] problems with differential update?

Hi, On 4/11/19 21:26, Roland Olbricht wrote: > Could it have been that the file triggered an arcane bug in a gz library > from the Java universe? Yes, that's exactly the problem - these files decompress fine with gzip, just not with Java. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ##

Re: [OSM-talk] Fantasy mapper returns

Hi, On 27.03.19 16:54, Dave F via talk wrote: > Could a block be put on him before he causes more disruption please? Done. You can also write to d...@osmfoundation.org directly next time if you're specifically asking for moderator action. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMa

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

making community of course! About people. Smiling faces inviting you to go out and map your neighbourhood ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mailing list ta

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