Hi,
On 10/07/2016 09:43 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I have finished bisecting the commits and ended up with
> 2b466b2fb29c416149b4d881c151349218a63e1e as the first bad commit -
> everything before that works, everything after that segfaults. I'll have
> a closer look.
I'm afrai
k them - why did you map what you mapped,
what incentive was there?
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On 10/06/2016 09:28 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>so all OSRM releases up to 5.2.7 work ok on my machine and with my
> input file and the foot profile; all releases from 5.3.0 upwards have
> the segfault. I'll continue trying to identify exactly where it was
> introduced.
I h
file that somehow triggers the segfault, I haven't tried other
environments yet.)
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ed Europe file to see what happens. Any other ideas
are welcome.
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er im Augenblick sind wir in einer
Situation, in der die Einnahmen aus Mitgliedschaft noch nicht reichen.
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Bankkonto spenden (Bankverbindung siehe
https://www.fossgis.de/) und so die OSMF unterstützen.
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ined members of the Springfield City Tree Board can be trusted with
assessing the tree cover, keep out you unwashed public" etc).
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ven further instead of helping. But this has
absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand; as I said, I've made
the very same recommendation for the very same reasons in other countrie
s.
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On 09/07/2016 09:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> as your vote is tied to your user account it should not be counted several
> times, regardless how many times you send it in.
Damn, NOW you tell me?
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at is like a car salesperson fixing a leak with
bubble gum because it looks better and they can't be bothered to fix it
properly.
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hier die Wikiseite zum Hackweekend im Oktober:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Hack_Weekend_October_2016
Wie immer sind alle willkommen; eine fixe Agenda gibt es nicht, ausser,
die Teilnehmenden bringen eine mit ;)
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mapper touches up the area they
will likely also update other things than just the closed-down shop, and
then the map will be current again. Automatically editing away something
country-wide hides the fact that the map lacks attention in an area.
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(not even talking
of community engagement). "It looks nice on the map" can be a
treacherous criterion; beneath the surfaceit can still be rubbish, and
rubbish should not be imported into OSM even if it looks nice.
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rted data (perhaps to
replace it with new, better-imported data) would also have to take into
account potential manual work that has been performed on the imported by
mappers with local knowledge and it would be sad to lose that.
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Sam,
On 09/01/2016 11:26 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> I believe the given what we have just spent the last 24 hours discussing
>> this request is unreasonable and the issue is not significant. Thoughts?
>
> An importer who imports data into OSM that doesn't match up with alrea
more responsible to come along.
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lmap to do what they do was, however, never meant as a
carte blanche for everyone to add data under "proxy users"; other
requests to do that on a broader scale have routinely been rejected
because they risk running into all kinds of trouble - legally and
community wise.
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hat they can
be reached by OSM user-to-user messaging if necessary.
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rowd-sourced project that would record postal codes, and
only very recently gave up on that. The story is here:
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2016/06/crowdsourcedpostalcodelawsuit/
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but other than that, you need to
use your favourite search engine with something like
"site:lists.openstreetmap.org legal-talk mykeyword".
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Zertifikat kommt noch nach ;)
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Hi,
guy on the help forum asking for someone to help him edit OSM,
perhaps there's a suitable meetup he can be directed to:
http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/51360/newbie-200-places-to-add-and-i-want-to-get-this-right-the-first-time
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my post to the tagging list. Some of the
failed/single-minded projects in the past didn't even bother documenting
their tags on the wiki, insofar this project is superior - and it's
totally ok for them to start a discussion. Just not an import one week
after mentioning that by-the-way-we-have-a-pr
have you learned? Which global OSM community did you talk to
and where?
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will usually not be
curated by individual mappers. It would just sit there, being replaced
by a new import once a year (or not) - OSM would be abused as a data
transport for third party data.
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; only
where they can be used to deduce the bounds of something we *do* want in
OSM will they find their way into the database. We will not map
individual property lines in e.g. a residential neighbourhood (much less
import them).
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n't look at the source. In that, it is different
from almost every other OSM editor widely used.
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or under Your control by
either more than 50% ownership or by the power to direct their
activities (such as contracting with an independent consultant)."
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On 07/19/2016 09:08 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hallo Marc,
Ups, das sollte gar nicht an die Liste, sorry. Muss mal mit dem blöden
Listenadmin hier reden wegen des reply-to ;)
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Wir freuen uns (mittlerweile zum 2. mal) auf ein gemeinsames SommerCamp im
>> Linuxhotel.
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SommerCamp_2016
>> [2] https://www.fossgis.de/wiki/FOSSGIS_Hacking_Event_2015_Nummer_6
>>
>
>
> _
Hi,
On 07/13/2016 12:37 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2016-07-13 12:24, Dave F wrote:
>
>>
>> On 13/07/2016 11:10, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>>>
>>> W3W is a coordinate system...
>>
>> I fail to see how it can even be described as that as there is
e element of W3W marketing to call their system an
"addressing system", but it has virtually none of the properties that an
addressing system has. W3W is a coordinate system, not an addressing system.
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Hi,
On 07/13/2016 10:37 AM, Sven Geggus wrote:
> Wenn ja, gibt es einen Tag, der signalisiert, dass das Teil da in 95% der
> Zeit in der man vorbeikommt überhaupt nicht anzutreffen ist?
amenity=fast_food
fast_food=intermittent
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s a logical fallacy to believe that just because
automated edits are a problem that needs to be regulated, the reverting
of automated edits needs to be regulated as well.
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ll be blocked. This is not a court system; DWG doesn't
need a law on the Wiki to take action against someone who causes
trouble. However, causing trouble through manual edits is so much less
frequent than causing trouble with mechanical edits that we have written
up a policy on the latter.
By
do it right. If they run their edit and then someone from Peru
complains, they might still need to revert or fix it, but at least
they're not the lone-wolf guy who didn't care what others think and DWG
will certainly treat someone who tried to do it right but faile
an axe
to grind with DWG.
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or the geolocation engine is Nominatim which will, in the US, often rely
on imperfect TIGER house numbers or interpolation lines, and when such
an imprecise match is converted into a node with addr:* tags we have an
illusion of precision that doesn't hold.
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single node in an otherwise
> mostly-complete area, I'm going to assume that the person made a
> reasonable guess that the node wouldn't be noticed.
You're likely over-estimating their thought process.
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eher
keine Budget-Empfehlungen zu erwarten.
Es laufen schon jetzt die ersten Vorbereitungen für die 2017er
Konferenz; jeder, der einen Beitrag dazu leisten kann und will, dass
2017 alles besser wird, der sollte sich bei der SOTM-Working Group
einklinken und mitmachen.
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might
now need correcting, or are you talking about areas that are at risk -
and what would you "task out" about such areas? Pre-emptively improve
their mapping in order to make the data better for emergency response?
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't had their lawsuits resolved yet.
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o more conflicts than a semi-live
editor like Vespucci but I guess it would be acceptable.
It sounds like all that's missing is for the application to refuse edits
to a map that is too old (or at the very least allow that under protest)?
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se simply make current
extracts available?
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nz mit unterschiedlichen
Strichelungen für verschiedene Wegetypen und in Nullkommanix haben wir
osmarender 2.0 ;)
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is part of your business model, you should really just look into working
with proprietary data to start with, rather than trying to create an
"OSM++" that you don't have to share - even *if* you find suitable
loopholes in the licen
nn zeichne
ich nur die normalen, häufig befahrenen Kurse), oder soll die Karte
zeigen, wo grundsätzlich vielleicht irgendwann mal ein Bus vorbeikommt
(dann zeichne ich auch die Gelegenheitskurse).
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translated to
polygons with the help of OSM if desired.
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*especially* if there's (as you say) very few people to
actually care for stuff once it is imported.
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commits them to "maintain the
what3words technology" - it still leaves it totally open for them to
restrict access, for example to paying customers or people willing to
watch an ad or people from a particular IP range or so.
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Hi,
On 05/08/2016 02:03 AM, Mike Thompson wrote:
> Does anyone have a contact at Craigslist [1]?
I don't but Dennis Watson @fuzzymeat of Craigslist did a talk at SOTM US
2013 about their map. Unsure if he's still with them though.
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Postings gekommen, oder
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t aber unangehm langsam.
Dem OP würde ich empfehlen, mal einen Blick auf den sehr simplen "OSM
Bright"-Style zu werfen, der ist für einen Einsteiger leichter zu
verstehen als der "große" OSM-Carto.
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imedia Italy. No FUD.
The fact that there is an association in Italy promoting both Wikipedia
and OSM does not make the statement "We are 100% independent" false.
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ed this
therefore it must not"), but whether or not the UN have approved
something is not what governs our mapping.
We'd have to explain to Wikipedia users that what they see on our maps
might not be what they expect, and that we do *not* want them to fix it...
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of said accidental imperialism is too high. Would you
want Montana mapped by people who've never even been to the US and
perhaps don't even speak English?
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Hi,
On 04/25/2016 07:02 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> see for example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org and
Gah, broke the link -
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Gaza#Commercial_aerial_photography
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n mappers).
Having said that, paying for propietary imagery isn't without precedent
in OSM, see for example http://wiki.openstreetmap.org and
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WissensWert/40_-_Luftbilder_f%C3%BCr_OpenStreetMap
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On 04/06/2016 11:29 PM, Walter Nordmann wrote:
> Auch aud dem Download-Server? Von da bekomme ich noch die identischen
> Daten.
Ja, das sollte sich über Nacht mit der neuen Berechnung dann einrenken.
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Hi,
On 04/06/2016 10:24 PM, Walter Nordmann wrote:
> meines Erachtens ist das Poly falsch:
Hm, diese Bayernpolygone, die ich da verwende, sind in der Tat sehr
detailliert und haben diverse Änderungen der letzten Jahre verschlafen.
Hab sie mal aktualisiert.
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-1113363 || 84032
-190875 | Altdorf|
-2145268 | Bayern |
-62657 | Landkreis Landshut |
-17593 | Niederbayern |
-51477 | Deutschland|
(6 rows)
Wenn das bei Dir anders ist, würde ich mir vllt. mal die Polygone mi
olygon where osm_id=-62657
Mit einem ungültigen Polygon funktionieren u.U. die st_contains-Sachen
nicht.
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knicken müsste?
bicycle=carry_overhead vielleicht ;)
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detours for using free-and-open are acceptable, there's a limit to just
how much productivity loss you can accept for going with the less shiny.
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detours for using free-and-open are acceptable, there's a limit to just
how much productivity loss you can accept for going with the less shiny.
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On 03/27/2016 12:26 AM, Dave F wrote:
> Yeay! Another communication forum. Just what OSM needs.
Have we even completed our implementation of UserVoice yet, before we
start with other big new stuff.
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In England there are situations where a public right of way goes through
someone's garden. I'm sure the owner of the garden would love to somehow
hide the way from the map... but do we?
IMHO the contents of the highway tag would normally be something that
can be determined from aerial imagery, wit
better idea but seeing that the problem
has been highlighted to them pretty much at the time they made the edits
5 months ago, and they haven't come up with a better idea, I'd say the
time is up now.
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bad ways to do it, but I don't remember anything having been
discussed with the community. Could someone from one of the groups
participating in this commercial editing enlighten us about what exactly
is being done, which tags are changed/used, etc?
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tion for simple GIS
processing is certainly to stick with shape files for the time being -
despite all their shortcomings.
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ss ihr
http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2016/03/wochennotiz-nr-295/
nicht angekündigt habt?
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On 03/15/2016 03:46 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> Since I received only a total of three comments about this idea, one
> strongly negative (from Frederik Ramm)
My comment was intended to open your eyes to the fact that there's more
to a good import than simply putting precise data in
rbeischicken, wir können das zwar nicht
verbieten, aber irgendwie vermeiden wollen wir's schon") und von einem
Amtsmitarbeiter in OSM eingepflegt wird.
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Brücken für sein LKW-Navigationsprojekt bittet
> schwärmen Deutschland weit Mapper wie die fleißigen Bienchen aus.
Das ist kein Widerspruch, und wenn Du hier einen siehst, dann scheint
mir, dass Du etwas sehr wichtiges nicht verstanden hast.
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fteilung oder
Zusammenführung von Wegen) Informationen verloren gehen.
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o attendees that what you're teaching them is just one of many
way to contribute to OSM, and especially that tracing from aerial
imagery in foreign countries is the exception, not the norm, in OSM.
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that's not
supported by anything really.
> It just doesn't feel right to have a role=outer fully within another
> role=outer, but that's the only way I can think of to handle this.
Rest assured, when you hear Mathematicians talking about geometry, they
will happily accept that an outer rin
t them all... with an account registered for
rewards of course ;)
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Frederik
PS pls to be activatink irony detektor
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port some IOCTL
operation or so that STXXL wants to use. I ended up creating a sparse
200 GB file on the ram disk and loopback-mounting that to put an ext4
file system on it, just to enable STXXL to put its swap file there.
Surely better approaches exist?
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in any way?
(I haven't looked at the data and license yet.)
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gt; MIT: Lua, Debian
> 2-BSD: OpenLayers
> 3-BSD:
Osmium verwendet die "Boost Software License", die der MIT- und
BSD-Lizenz sehr ähnlich ist.
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t'll look
better on the map, which for me isn't good enough.
Can you point to areas where your import would encourage mappers,
including yourself, to add more knowledge and surveyed data to OSM?
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Leute, die unter der Woche wegen der Arbeit keine Zeit haben,
wird sich der Sonntag in Salzburg bestimmt lohnen, wenn dem jetzt nicht
gerade eine zehnstündige Anreise entgegensteht ;)
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Leute, die unter der Woche wegen der Arbeit keine Zeit haben,
wird sich der Sonntag in Salzburg bestimmt lohnen, wenn dem jetzt nicht
gerade eine zehnstündige Anreise entgegensteht ;)
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Frederik ("nur" 6 Stunden Anreise - immerhin schneller als Dessau)
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zen" der
> Daten nach außen nachvollziehbar macht.
Gibt es heute auch nicht.
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