Courtney wrote:
> Or is it going to keep doing the same old flame wars?
To be honest, the mailing lists have been on the way out for a long time now,
and talk@ is no exception. Some once busy lists are now basically dead (dev@,
legal-talk@, talk-de@). Others are noticeably quieter (talk@,
Jas Ranasinghe wrote:
> Is anyone able to provide any information about the missing Public
> Rights of Way overlay? It is still currently in the overlay list, but the
> Rights of Way do not show up on the map.
I'm guessing this refers to one of the tile layers I host at osm.cycle.travel.
Andrew Harvey wrote:
> Well your router would need to look up the specific default whether
> that's something in the routing engine configuration, pulled from
> the OSM wiki, or pulled from the Victoria state relation def:* tags.
With the best will in the world, that's not going to happen.
I can
Hi folks,
There appear to be a _lot_ of bogus rail stations on the map in Queensland:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/-21.0650/148.8397=T
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/-23.5706/150.1838=T
I think these are historic halts that haven't had service for many years but
have mistakenly
Robert Whittaker wrote:
> On the basis that it's a required part of each address, I
> would recommend that we do store the post town in OSM
> addresses. There are significant advantages to storing it
> in a consistent way, and the best existing tag to do this
> would be addr:city. (We wouldn't
Andrew Hain wrote:
> What distinction would you make between this and the cycle
> route over steps that was discussed recently or the
> signposted cycle route past cycle barriers in Barnes,
> London?
"Cycle routes" as a distinct concept don't have any legal force, other than
authorised forms of
Neil Matthews wrote:
> Looks like there's been an attempt to remove all stiles from
> bridleways
Um, no there hasn't?
The changeset you've pointed to (which is one of mine) has a single stile moved
to the side of a bridleway. I've done this a handful of times in the past, too,
usually where
Blake Girardot wrote:
> I will just point out a common pattern:
Céline posted an eloquent opening statement that talks about "this dominant
profile" and the thread has, true to form, largely descended into the same
dominant profile arguing and "just pointing out" things.
It might therefore be
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Should we have an automated edit to update all instances of "British
>Waterways"?
Scotland's canals are still run by the British Waterways Board (trading as
Scottish Canals), so any edit would need to be geographically constrained.
TBH there's only 170 operator=British
Michal Migurski wrote:
> FB’s attribution approach in keeping with best practices
> seen from other commercial users of display maps.
In the spirit of Twitter footnoting one of Donald Trump's "I won the election"
tweets, this is your respectful reminder that Google, Bing, Here, Tencent,
[cross-posted to talk-us@ and tagging@, please choose your follow-ups wisely]
Brian M. Sperlongano wrote:
> It seems that we are increasingly doing things to simplify the
> model because certain tooling can't handle the real level of
> complexity that exists in the real world. I'm in favor of
michael spreng wrote:
> It currently does not. There is an update cycle of about 4 days. I think
> such date ranges would make sense to use at the time of generation
> (however day time ranges would still be ignored). But that is not yet
> implemented as far as I know. It could be implemented in
Could I suggest that, rather than second-guessing what some putative router
might or might not do, people actually try these scenarios with one of the many
real-world routers to see if they actually happen?
I see an awful lot of "may" and "might" in this thread, together with a liberal
SteveA wrote:
> With both of us in agreement about tag "proposed:route=bicycle"
> (especially as it co-exists with "state=proposed") can we gain
> some more consensus (here, soon?) allowing us to move closer towards
> recommending in our wiki that we tag proposed USBRs with
>
[apologies for broken threading, Nabble is still down]
Jon Pennycook wrote:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821036 and
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2821037 (claiming to be
> National Cycle Network Route 231 and 235) have been listed on
> OpenStreetMap for some time. They
Robert Whittaker wrote:
> Sustrans' NCN data is available from
> http://livingatlas-dcdev.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/54a66fa3c15d4e118e085fbd9b141aae
> as vector tiles under the ODbL. However, note that the "removed"
> sections mostly won't be reflected on the ground yet. Also, the
> dataset
mmd wrote:
> I'm wondering if some of the changes that are now needed for AIR
> would make it more difficult to switch to Ruffle later on.
The short answer is (based on the POC work I've done so far) no. :)
The slightly longer answer is that I hope, as part of this project,
to make a number of
Skyler Hawthorne wrote:
> Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I think using any funds at all to
> continue support for a tool that 1% of editors use would be wasteful.
> Flash is, for all intents and purposes, a dead technology. This
> money is better spent on other uses.
The entire point is to move
Sören Reinecke wrote:
> So far as I understood Adobe dropped Linux support for its
> AIR plattform. If that is right, then I am in doubt that
> supporting the development of Potlatch 2 is not that in
> a sustainable manner.
AIR is not maintained by Adobe, but by Harman, a Samsung subsidiary. AIR
Hi all,
As some of you may be aware, Sustrans has embarked on a project to review and
improve the National Cycle Network.
As part of this, sections of routes which Sustrans thinks have no realistic
prospect of being brought up to a minimum standard in the near future are being
either removed
[apologies for broken threading, Nabble appears to have fallen over]
Chris Fleming wrote:
> We also have copyright of the route itself, Cycling UK do seem
> to assert copyright and therefore we probably do need them to
> ask them.
I did ask that very question at a recent Facebook webchat with
Kathleen Lu wrote:
> OSM has imported sources that are ODbL. The attribution to those sources
> does not appear on the map, but rather after several clicks (usually first
> to the copyright page, then the contributors page). If that's not
> acceptable under ODbL for a map that has multiple data
Hi folks,
You’ll remember that a couple of weeks ago I posted about the work I’m doing to
look at getting the relevant bits of Transport for London’s openly licensed
Cycle Infrastructure Database into OSM.
I’ve now pushed the in-progress code to github:
Andrew Harvey , wrote:
> For these "routes" though there is no clear A to B, there will be short
> segments which are obivously part of a route because there are arrows
> directing cyclists, but sometimes these are just short segments to the next
> intersection so it's unclear where the route
On 25 Apr 2020, 09:53 +0100, Andrew Harvey , wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 18:49, Richard Fairhurst
> > wrote:
> > > Relations with type=route are for routes, with a defined start and end.
> > > Not
> > > for networks. If you want to
Tom Brennan wrote:
> However, if I go over to Cammeray, someone has added all of the ways
> to a single relation (named Cammeray Local Routes, tagged with
> lcn=yes and network=lcn).
Yeah, please don't do that. :)
Relations with type=route are for routes, with a defined start and end. Not
for
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Since cc-by-sa 2.0 times, the suggestion to credit OSM was "©
> OpenStreetMap contributors", but from the current legal situation
> (all necessary rights granted to the OSMF) it wouldn't be
> necessary to credit the contributors.
When I wrote the /copyright page all
Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets wrote:
> Richard will be doing the bulk of the scripting work, and is working
> on converting each of the sections of data. This will naturally be
> published on Github openly, as will the outputted data. This is
> reasonably complex work given the number of
Jothirnadh Guthula wrote:
> With a team of mappers @Amazon we are planning to improve
> missing roads in UK using Facebook detections as a source. Please
> let us know if you have any ongoing projects using this data source.
> While adding missing roads, we will be adding all the associated
>
> Item #1.
>
> If I go here:
> http://project-osrm.org/
> and click on "View Demo", and put in 2 points
> the route is not calculated and the GPX export
> button is not active (it is grayed out). This
> used to work. What happened?
The OSRM demo server no longer has a TLS certificate and so any
Florimond Berthoux a écrit:
> Sinon la façon que je recommande de faire c’est le cas S5
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#Miscellaneous
> highway=path
> segregated=yes|no
> foot=designated
> bicycle=designated
et aussi:
surface=asphalt|gravel|...
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Kathleen Lu wrote:
> I would not say this is true. Google maps has routing for walking,
> cycling, and public transit, and their public transit information is
> probably more complete than OSM's.
It is, but on the other hand Google's walking and cycling routing is _much_
worse.
Richard
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Paul Johnson wrote:
> Could we get some lane editing/rendering in these editors
> to cut down on this kind of unintentionally erratic mapping?
Sure, you're welcome to open a friendly issue at
https://github.com/systemed/potlatch2/issues listing the base case for what
you think is required.
> >
Rory McCann wrote:
> The existence of an OSM cycling logo doesn't mean all
> OSMers have to be cycling activists!
Wait, what?
cheers
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Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> I am proposing shutting down my (very old) England and
> Wales footpath mapping site Freemap (free-map.org.uk).
Wow, there's a blast from the past!
Freemap was of course one of the very first grassroots mapping sites (2004),
together with my geowiki.com (2003 [1]), Jo
Dave F wrote:
> CU wanted a new site map. They paid someone to provide it for
> them. Which is fine, but please don't suggest they're
> contributions are superior to those of any anybody else.
> Especially when they decided to knowingly go against accepted
> tagging procedures.
I think that's
DaveF wrote:
> This OS map render only shows a selection of paths. Does anyone
> know what criteria OS used to decide which to render?
I suspect "only those which OS have got round to digitising". OS have
digitised all paths in National Parks and appear to be gradually digitising
others. But
Jeroen Hook wrote:
> Is there another way to find out what type of road(s) I am crossing?
I think the easiest solution would be to allow bicycles on your
highway=primary, but set it to be a restricted access road (or just to have a
really high cost). That way you’d still call process_turn, but
Eric H. Christensen wrote:
> The routing engine should be able to take into account
> the road surface
It can and often does. Your problem there is that only 2% of highway= ways
in the US are explicitly tagged with surface; probably only 30% are
implicitly tagged; and sometimes the implicit
Peter Neale wrote:
> I would love to amend the Route Relation, but have no idea how to
> go about it.
Brilliant. Thanks for taking this on!
You can do it from iD - no particular need to use JOSM for this. Essentially
the trick is, for each way that needs to be removed from the relation,
select
Edward Bainton wrote:
> Is there any reason why OSM can't set up a user co-op (for instance)
> that would offer a paid tileserver service?
It's an idea that's been thrown around now and then. In OSM, of course, "why
can't OSM..." is usually best rephrased as "hey, let's...". First person
plural.
Jean-Christophe Becquet a écrit:
> Est-ce que cette combinaison de tags vous semble correcte ?
> bicycle=yes
> bicycle:conditional=no @ (Nov Fr[-1]-Apr Fr[-1])
et peut-être aussi:
bicycle:seasonal=yes
pour les routeurs qui ne parsent pas le (très compliqué) opening_hours?
This is getting ridiculous.
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Twopenn'orth and not particularly a reply to any single message:
1. I'm not against them being in the OSM database, mostly for the reason
that it's unrealistic to expect every single app to do additional processing
for all 195 countries in the world. Sure, it would be nice if Osmand and
maps.me
EuroVelo routes are not in a great state in OSM. Many of them appear to have
been armchaired years ago when routes were "in development", and not updated
since to reflect the correct route.
A handful of examples:
[France]
https://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=12!49.2876!2.655
EV3 should
Roland Olbricht wrote:
> > Changing to a github-like system of version management
> I thought of Git, not Github.
Again, there's no suggestion of "changing to"; it would be additional.
As Christoph says, the challenge would be "finding, motivating, selecting
and retaining qualified people to
Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Changing to a github-like system of version management would
> require some people to serve as "maintainers" or "moderators"
> of the new, curated list of Map Features / Tags, wouldn't it? While
> this could be an improvement in the quality and consistency of
> how
Roland Olbricht wrote:
> Imperfect Flow of Information
>
> Although many parts of the OpenStreetMap project are well
> translated, the tagging documentation has substantial deficiencies.
Yep. Documentation is the biggest problem with tagging.
I don't actually think it's the wiki per se that's
I was in holiday in North Wales last week and mapped the biggest
remaining gap, east from Aberdaron:
https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=13!52.8079!-4.6498
That leaves three smaller gaps around the central Cardigan Bay
coastline, between Barmouth and Borth:
Kathleen Lu wrote:
> "reasonably calculated" means "reasonable." What does reasonable mean?
> Well a court would look at what other people in the industry do. Do others
> in the industry list attribution, especially to multiple data sources,
> after
> a click (or many clicks)? Yes, all the
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> Just for understanding what second rate attribution is: For example
> the map on the bottom right of:
> https://www.zeit.de/politik/2019-07/strasse-von-hormus-bundesregierung-marinemission-usa-iran
> printing a prominent "Zeit Online" below the map (self attribution)
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
If you look at Apple Maps, and for example zoomed into some place in Denmark,
there is an i-button which brings you to an overlay which has a TomTom logo and
a link „and others“
while in Denmark the data is from OpenStreetMap. IMHO this second rate
attribution
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> It does not in any way address the problem of second rate attribution
> (i.e. someone else - usually the service provider of the map service
> or the media outlet publishing the map) is being attributed more
> prominently than OSM.
That is not something that the ODbL
SimonPoole wrote:
> the few things that are not nailed down belong to those that we
> would appreciate feedback on.
This is really good, and very much in accordance with both the text of the
ODbL and the long-standing precedents set by the osm.org/copyright page.
Thank you.
Two small wording
Tom Hughes wrote:
> That doesn't follow - in the UK we have always (with very rare
> exceptions like Oxford High Street) mapped secondary, primary
> and trunk to the official status of the road.
It's slightly more nuanced than that - we have always mapped secondary,
primary and trunk to the
Minh Nguyen wrote:
> As with the network tag on bus routes, what's important for both
> network and cycle_network is that the route is intended to form
> part of a coherent *network* (almost like a brand, but not quite).
It's also useful for those of us writing routers, as it means we can avoid
Kevin Kenny wrote:
> And route relations are important for sites like Waymarked Trails -
> it totally ignores walking and cycling routes that are not indicated
> with relations, which is why I wind up doing routes for even
> relatively trivial stuff like
>
Hi all,
Is it in theory possible to take OSRM's CH graph and visualise, say, the
"top 10%" of routes?
In other words, I'm interested in creating a map which shows the highest
order of contractions - the routes which are most likely to be followed.
Obviously I'll have to write some code, but
Hi all,
You might remember that back in March I wondered whether we could get
access to the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy's data, which they've given to
Google:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2019-March/019266.html
Helpful people on this list followed that up with RTC
Hi all,
I've put together a simple tileset showing greenspace areas from Ordnance
Survey's recent OS Open Greenspace release. The data is released under the
standard OS open licence therefore suitable for tracing in OSM.
Many features are already in OSM, but not all, and in addition the names
Andrew Hain wrote:
> Have a new team of developers code from the codebase of iD.
> Write a new online editor from scratch.
> Abandon online editing and tell everyone to use an offline editor.
Please stop trolling.
Richard
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Wiklund Johan wrote:
> Adding footway to the platform serves no purpose but to please poorly
> built
> routing engines.
Are there actually any such engines, or is this a post-facto justification?
OSRM has routed over platforms since 8 September 2013. Valhalla does - it's
multimodal and you
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Now while everybody is free to use any tag she likes, I would not
> expect the OpenStreetMap-Foundation standard editor to
> introduce new tags through presets.
It's been happening since Potlatch 1 came online in 2007, so you should have
had a few years to get used
Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will
> not make the edit without a clear support so please comment if
> you think that it is a good idea and if you think that it should
> not be done.
I think it's an excellent idea. I've deleted these
Peter Neale wrote:
>So how should they be tagged for access? I believe it should be:
> highway=path (but I see several tagged as highway=cycleway and both are
> shown in the Wiki
> at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=cycleway)
> foot=designated
> motor vehicle=permit (to allow the
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> How did you come to this conclusion? I counted 3 people not so
> interested in attribution or OK with current state of things and
> 16 agreeing either explicitly or implicitly with Richard's assessment
> that there is a problem.
I think WeeklyOSM were being very
Hi all,
I see that Rails-to-Trails Conservancy donated their GIS data to Google:
https://www.railstotrails.org/our-work/trail-mapping-and-gis/
Anyone in the US fancy asking if they might do the same for OSM? Our
coverage is good on the major trails (Katy Trail, Coeur d'Alenes, etc.),
but
Mikel Maron wrote:
> We may not like that reality, but that's the underlying legal situation.
> We can certainly recommend a better way. And that recommendation
> can only be formulated through the OSMF; a mailing list discussion
> will not lead to a legal decision, though it's an interesting
Hi all,
In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers
have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through
'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples:
https://docs.mapbox.com/help/img/android/android-first-steps-intro.png
I'm not quite sure what you've done with the quoting but you've attributed me
as writing your reply, which evidently I didn't. :)
Will Phillips wrote:
> I really don't see what is outlandish about using post towns as a
> guide for what goes in the addr:city tag. Royal Mail might be becoming
>
Colin Smale wrote:
> As you will know RM have their own particular ideas of the
> geography of the UK, all done for their own convenience. It
> would certainly avoid some confusion if we used addr:posttown
> instead of addr:city.
Fully agree.
The notion that I should tag addresses in
Brian Prangle wrote:
> Are these covered by copyright?
The National Grid per se is not covered by copyright.
The newer transformations used to produce highly accurate grid references
may be, but in fact OS has licensed the most recent (OSTN15) under the
permissive BSD licence:
Mathias Vadot a écrit:
> Après plusieurs test, je me rends compte que le fond de carte
> OCM n’affiche pas les itinéraires internationaux, relations
> taguées de cette manière : network = icn.
https://cycle.travel/map
:)
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Tomas Straupis wrote:
> Ad absurdum argument: can you invent your own street name or even
> placename and expect post, police, ambulance, firefighters, taxi to
> arrive (on time or at all)?
Sure, in the UK, you could do that and I know people who have done so. If
you invent a street name here
Hi all,
I've just added coverage of Scandinavia and Eastern Europe to the
OSM-powered bike routing at https://cycle.travel/map .
New countries are Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania,
Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Kosovo, (North)
Macedonia,
TonyS wrote:
> Lot of the obscurity is caused by the contracts from Department
> For Transport. Merseyrail is both a train operating company
> and a commuter rail network in and around Liverpool City Region
Indeed, and it's actually even more nuanced than that.
Merseyrail is not a franchise
Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Following some discussion about this changeset in OSMUS
> Slack [2], I started a discussion on the wiki about preferring
> more stable population figures over supposition about
> temporary circumstances. [3]
It's roughly analogous to a situation we had a few months ago
Mike N. wrote:
> As one who grew up in a rural area, a country road lined with 4
> houses in a mile would feel "residential" and I would tend to set
> it as residential in OSM. That describes most of the rural parts
> of this county also, except for roads that don't happen to have
> a house.
Mike N. wrote:
> This is a proposed import of road centerlines for Spartanburg County
> SC, based on county GIS data. This will include a systematic review of
> all roads in the county and qualify to remove tiger:reviewed tags.
Looks good!
Browsing through the code and the wiki page, you have:
Stuart Reynolds wrote:
> I propose that we refer this to the OSM UK Directors and ask
> them to review the arguments for both sides and come to a
> firm decision. That’s what we elected them for, after all. Then
> they publish it, and that is what we all agree to accept,
> whether it matches
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> But we are not fundamentalists, and we do allow exceptions. One
> obvious exception is current administrative boundaries; they are
> not easily verifiable on the ground but we're making an exception
> because of their undoubted usefulness.
From 1974 to 1997, the county
Toby Speight wrote:
> That's why we have
> rendering rules - if you don't like the rendering, change the rules.
What you're suggesting would imply that every worldwide site using OSM data
to display a consumer-facing map, or provide routing, needs to write a
special exception for Great Britain.
Brian Prangle wrote:
> I suggest at the very least that the change is reverted for NI.
The edit did not take place in Northern Ireland, as Dave stated
unequivocally in his original mail: "Note I didn't include Northern Ireland"
webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote:
> As it has been pointed out to me on IRC that GB doesn't include
> Northern Ireland, and I should keep my opinions to myself.
No-one told you to keep your opinions to yourself; I simply suggested you
start a separate Northern Ireland-centric discussion
Toby Speight wrote:
> Who is responsible for coordinating the related changes to software -
> editors, renderers, converters and QA tools - that are required? I
> see no sign of any of this having started.
No changes are required to core OSM software, but if your own niche requires
a map on
Blake Girardot wrote:
> Also: No one is getting paid for anything related to this at this
> point. I personally would like to see Google donate to the OSMF
> and let the OSMF grant it out to help OSM core and eco system
> tools implement OLC native in code as it should be.
That's done. Tom has
Philip Barnes wrote:
> Recently new blue branded co-op shops have started to appear,
> some have changed and at least one has opened in direct
> competition with an existing Mid-counties.
Midcounties are also adopting the "new" cloverleaf Co-op logo in many
places, while their Chipping Norton
Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> Perhaps an operator=* tag would help, if we knew which
> Co-Op groups still had pharmacies...
A quick flick through their various websites suggests only:
Midcounties: https://www.midcounties.coop/stores/
Lincolnshire:
Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> First there's a new set of objects in my "Ghosts" tool at
> https://osm.mathmos.net/ghosts/. There are 162 still-mapped
> "Co-Op Pharmacy" branches, which should have been rebranded
> to become "Well Pharmacy" branches now.
Not necessarily!
As you say,
Martin Wynne wrote:
> Google publishes a map for profit.
> Worcestershire County Council is paid for by me. And a few others.
Sure. The point is that copyright automatically subsists unless expressly
disclaimed.
WCC has not expressly openly licensed this data. You can't just say "it's
publicly
Martin Wynne wrote:
> Worcestershire County Council publishes PDF text lists (no mapping)
> of classified and unclassified roads.
Google publishes a map, but that doesn't mean it's an admissible source for
OSM. :)
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Rob Nickerson wrote:
> Dave can you do the D class roads too. Someone has added these -
> e.g: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.21554/-1.87663
That reminds me - there's some weird ones in Hillingdon too:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/51.5603/-0.3943
Can anyone think of a
Killyfole and District Development Association wrote:
> So I hear a urgent traffic update on the radio that there was a forest
> fire
> on the C425 Eshnadarragh Road and that the Fire Service have closed
> the road due to the pumping equipment needed to fight the fire.
Dave originally wrote
Dave F wrote:
> However this task was never undertaken. I decided to grab the bull by the
> horns.
Bravo!
Killyfole and District Development Association wrote:
> Surely we map for what is there on the ground, not how it renders?
Right. C road numbers are not on the ground. (With the
Greg Morgan wrote:
> Let's compare Germany[8], the state of Montana[9] and the
> United States[10]. We see that the size of Montana matches the
> size of Germany. Yet, we see the population density is roughly
> 82 million people in Germany to 1 million people in Montana.
I see a lot of varied
Florian Lohoff wrote:
> Have you ever dealt with OSM data from a software development
> standpoint?
>
> There is no such thing as "database quality". Its a big spaghetti
> mess and data consumers take whats documented and ignore
> misspellings. Users have to fix it with discipline noticing the
Carlos Cámara wrote:
> Willing to read your points of view on that matter.
There is a whole lot I could say on this (writing "Eurocentric" in a
discussion about casinos seems really weird, and I'm not sure Native
Americans would thank you for it) but ultimately it's a little academic at
the
Warin wrote:
> I expand these out to Saint. I think that is correct in the English
> language.
It is expressly _incorrect_ in British English and if this were a UK
discussion you would be asked to put them back to St. I can't speak for
Australian English but it wouldn't surprise me if it were the
Mike Thacker wrote:
> Yes, a threshold on getting the data via an API, but true Open
> Government Licence doesn't limit the amount of data used (as
> far as I know) so it should be possible to build up a fill picture
> as open data.
The transaction-limited versions don't appear to be being
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> I realise this is going a bit OT for OSM but wondering if this data,
> together with the newer historic maps from the earlier part of the
> 20th century, could be used to build a platform for the purpose of
> finding these lost paths? Had a quick look yesterday and there
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