Re: [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-02-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Feb 11, 2023, 11:38 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > > > > On 10/2/23 12:30, Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> Hi legal-questions, >> >> I'm forwarding this interesting question about the OSMF Terms of >> Use preventing anyone from obtaining OSM data for emergency >> services use. This

Re: [talk-au] Gravel roads surface tagging

2023-01-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
though this round is about surface=fine_gravel (previous was about surface=gravel) while surface=gravel old page claimed that it is for track ballast-sized chunks, current surface=fine_gravel page describes it as duplicate of surface=compacted Jan 7, 2023, 03:03 by fors...@ozonline.com.au: >

Re: [talk-au] listing of objects wikipedia/wikidata/etc tags with some problems

2022-11-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
:22 od daniel.ocon...@gmail.com: > This seems useful. How often do your reports re-run? (manually?) Would be > good to chip away at issues and get a sense of progress. > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 4:44 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> >

[talk-au] listing of objects wikipedia/wikidata/etc tags with some problems

2022-11-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
I have created https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/ which lists OSM objects that have some problems requiring review There is a report for number of areas, including for Australia: https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/Australia.html

Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?

2022-08-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
It seems that edit were reverted in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124325240 Aug 1, 2022, 00:52 by nwas...@gmail.com: > Hi > there is some recent mapping around southern Victoria and the greater > Melbourne area that seem to be incorrect and need reverting but I am not > familiar

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "secret" facilities?

2022-07-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 27, 2022, 10:40 by stevea...@softworkers.com: > On Jul 27, 2022, at 1:02 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 27/7/22 17:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: >> >>> is it clearly signposted as cannabis factory farm at its location? >>

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "secret" facilities?

2022-07-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
is it clearly signposted as cannabis factory farm at its location? If yes, then mapping it likely would be fine. If it is clearly signposted but it is not verifiable by survey then some more generic tagging should be fine. If something is not really verifiable at location (anonymous note may be

[talk-au] Is addr:housenumber=2/20 likely to be valid?

2022-07-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
I want to confirm report from https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/4196 "In my area (and throughout built-up parts of Australian cities in general) it is not uncommon to encounter blocks of townhouses which share a primary address number but have distinct sub-address numbers.

Re: [talk-au] Splitting Ways for small roundabout traffic islands

2021-11-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Nov 15, 2021, 12:14 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > What I'd like to hear is from those who do split, is why? Is it just because > you're trying to follow the documented rules, or is there a reason for > splitting being better? Ideally we'd document the community preferred  > approach along with

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

2021-10-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Oct 29, 2021, 12:42 by p...@wyatt-family.com: > In most cases you are allowed to legally travel ANYWHERE, including off > track, within a national park (with minimal exceptions), however we do not > mark on the map every possibility between all known destinations. That would > make the map

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

2021-10-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
In such case it would be worth to report this as a clear bug. (have not verified that it actually happens) Oct 29, 2021, 13:23 by p...@wyatt-family.com: > I think OSMAND only works to exclude access=private, not access=no > > -Original Message- > From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> >

Re: [talk-au] "Removing closed or illegal trails." (in Nerang National Park)

2021-10-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
29 Oct 2021, 09:08 by fors...@ozonline.com.au: > You could map a track under the "if it exists then map it" rule but you don't > have to. We do not map women's refuges and they exist. We don't have to map > every informal trail. > Note that "do not map women's refuges" applies to ones which

Re: [talk-au] Breaking a beach?

2021-09-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
1) I think it is fine to consider differently named sections of shoreline beach as separate objects (it gets trickier when areas overlap) 2) it is likely much easier to edit it in JOSM Sep 15, 2021, 02:22 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > Have had a look at this several times & can't figure out how

Re: [talk-au] Friend requests from 'Porn Bots'

2021-09-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
>> but I was wondering if anybody else has seen dodgy friend requests >> > > There were a few last month: > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2021-August/014922.html> > and they just seem to have kicked off again.  I've seen reports > elsewhere and have had a

Re: [talk-au] Strange friend request?

2021-08-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
If user is not existing then its spam profile was likely deleted. Is this possibility mentioned at page of deleted user? If not - can  you link it? Maybe it can be improved and mention that deleting user is common reason for spam accounts. In general, in such case I would go to an user profile

Re: [talk-au] Tracks flagged as missing from government data

2021-08-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Aug 23, 2021, 06:24 by talk-au@openstreetmap.org: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, at 5:39 PM, Little Maps wrote: > >> I have a different take, but I think you'd be happy with my ideal router. It >> would give me 2 options: (1) use all available tracks (public + unknown) vs >> (2) only use known

Re: [talk-au] highway=service

2021-08-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
06761 >>> >> >> Agreed. Surprise no one fixed this already, I've done so now. >>   >> On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <>> >> talk-au@openstreetmap.org>> > wrote: >> >>> Are you allowed as a cyclist t

Re: [talk-au] highway=service

2021-08-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Aug 16, 2021, 13:14 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 19:45, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> Are you allowed as a cyclist to leave sidewalk using them? >> > > Well in NSW you can't cy

Re: [talk-au] highway=service

2021-08-15 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Aug 15, 2021, 02:06 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 at 08:55, Tom Brennan <> webs...@ozultimate.com> > wrote: > > >> I agree with your comment about only the section inside the property >> actually being >> private, but that distinction really only becomes important once >>

Re: [talk-au] Audible fences

2021-08-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Aug 1, 2021, 09:48 by fors...@ozonline.com.au: >> >> What physically is this 'screeching fence'? >> >> >> Is it in the middle of the road like a cattle grid, or along the edge >> of the road? >> >> A single pole with the device on it? >> >> Or is it 2 poles on opposite sides of the road with

Re: [talk-au] Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or Service?

2021-07-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 28, 2021, 07:29 by graemefi...@gmail.com: >> You can check your throttle status on the standard server here >> >> https://overpass-api.de/api/status >> > > Which came back with > Rate limit: 22 slots available now. > which I assume means it should be OK? > Yes, this reported that 2 out of

Re: [talk-au] Roads in Industrial Estates: Residential, Unclassified or Service?

2021-07-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 28, 2021, 07:23 by aho...@gmail.com: > > Industrial on one side, residential on the other?  > Personally I don't mind leaving this as residential as you suggest, so just > mark it as not an issue. > Often residential will be valid there, so I would skip it. > If you get blocked on the

Re: [talk-au] Street Lamps

2021-06-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter should have an explanation (if something is unclear, confusing or insufficient then it should be fixed) Jun 14, 2021, 09:47 by dazzilitc...@gmail.com: > I'm not sure how to revert but here are the changesets. I'd really appreciate > it

Re: [talk-au] Street Lamps

2021-06-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
If there is no permission then edits sould be reverted. Can you link affected ones? Jun 14, 2021, 02:16 by dazzilitc...@gmail.com: > At the moment I'm a little concerned about how at > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue#Australian_Capital_Territory> > it says

Re: [talk-au] How to map around blocked roads

2020-12-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
What is the legal situation? Can you legally use that bypass and continue on the blocked road? Dec 4, 2020, 03:19 by bob3b...@skymesh.com.au: > I don't do a lot of mapping, so thought I'd better check. > > Where a road has been closed by a barrier, but people have driven around it, > making

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-12-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Dec 2, 2020, 05:30 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 2/12/20 3:54 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > >> >> >> >> Dec 1, 2020, 01:17 by >> 61sundow...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> On 1/12/20 12:18 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-12-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Dec 1, 2020, 01:17 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 1/12/20 12:18 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: > >> >> >> >> Nov 30, 2020, 13:10 by >> 61sundow...@gmail.com>> : >> >>> On 27/11/20 11:15 am, Andrew Hughes wrote

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Nov 30, 2020, 13:10 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 27/11/20 11:15 am, Andrew Hughes wrote: > >> This subject has a long-running chequered past that hasn't reached >> a conclusion >> >>

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Nov 30, 2020, 04:21 by graemefi...@gmail.com: >> Please consider how important the location is for the driver/operator, and >> that the culvert is not just somewhere along a (long) length of road. >> > > Currently, at least, tunnel=culvert doesn't render on the road, it only shows > as a

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-29 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Nov 30, 2020, 03:24 by ahhug...@gmail.com: > Hi All, > > Thanks everyone for your feedback. > > We would like the culvert to be an  'isolated' segment of road for a number > of reasons. General (light vehicle) limits are typically signed however > anything that is 'really heavy' such as a

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-27 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Nov 27, 2020, 01:15 by ahhug...@gmail.com: > We need to model/tag the culvert as part of the road infrastructure. > Why? > Questions : What are the correct tagging for the ways below? > Way > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28010677> : > Q: Tagged as a bridge, but should it be? What else

Re: [talk-au] Abbreviations in bus stop names (Was Re: Mapping Transport for NSW transit stop numbers)

2020-11-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Note that we have short_name alt_name and other name tags. Nov 14, 2020, 01:24 by s...@samwilson.id.au: > > I'm not sure it applies everywhere, but one reason to keep the original > abbreviations is that some transit apps aren't smart enough to search > for the unabbreviated names.

Re: [talk-au] Port Phillip Steer Clear Areas Proposed Import

2020-10-28 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Thanks for posting https://gist.github.com/andrewharvey/12e5753086585279d398f48035368876 allowing easy review of data. Just to confirm: it is not tagged already, right? Oct 28, 2020, 06:27 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > The Victorian Ports Corporation (Melbourne) contacted me about adding

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Important thing to note is that while nothing makes you obligated to map tracks in some area, recommendations/guidelines like this are not allowing you to delete existing objects mapped by someone else. 25 Oct 2020, 07:31 by mapslit...@gmail.com: > Hi Phil, thanks for drafting this, it’s great

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
24 Oct 2020, 00:34 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > I can sympathise with the park operator, why should they have to be > constantly monitoring for any signs of a track anywhere in the park and > installing signage everywhere, why can't they say these are the areas we > authorise everywhere

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
23 Oct 2020, 11:59 by fors...@ozonline.com.au: > A licence condition for data users is that they have a public policy for the > Don'tRender tag > 'That is fortunately impossible' why is it impossible? > Technically it is possible but it would require licensechange that would be problematic

Re: [talk-au] Mapping "off track" hiking routes

2020-10-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Oct 23, 2020, 10:18 by fors...@ozonline.com.au: > I am not morally responsible if an ex partner kills a woman in a women's > refuge, he is, but I won't knowingly contribute to the process. And it > doesn't wash with me to say they should put a guard at the door because I > have mapped a

Re: [talk-au] Sufficient permission?

2020-10-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Oct 6, 2020, 23:10 by daviewa...@disroot.org: > "You may use any names I have applied to tracks as my main intentionis > to get people walking." > > I am not a lawyer but it sounds like something that is at least intended to be

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
12 Sep 2020, 03:41 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > > > > > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 20:01, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Sep 2, 2020, 06:06 by >> thesw...@gmail.com>> : >

Re: [talk-au] Are Health Centres, hospitals

2020-09-04 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Sep 4, 2020, 07:09 by o...@97k.com: > > some would not satisfy the definition of "clinic" depending on whether the 10 > staff (as specified in the OSM wiki) > This sounds like wikifiddling to me. I reduced its weight in

Re: [talk-au] Admin levels for LGAs / suburbs etc changed (Was "Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?)

2020-09-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Sep 2, 2020, 06:06 by thesw...@gmail.com: > On 2/09/2020 10:38 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> >> Did a bit of searching & it appears it was only changed on 15/7/20, but no, >> I certainly don't remember any discussion? >> >>

Re: [talk-au] OSM down?

2020-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Sounds like reocurence of https://github.com/openstreetmap/operations/issues/426 So yes, something got broken on OSM servers. Not sure whatever creating issues on openstreetmap/operations is helpful. Sep 1, 2020, 08:02 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > Has something crashed? > > Was getting a weird

Re: [talk-au] Suburbs & admin boundaries stopping streets being found?

2020-08-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
30 Aug 2020, 07:40 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > In addition, the overall Gold Coast LGA boundary hasn't been mapped. > Is it something with a clear boundary? Then it is a data issue. I am unable to promise fix in specific programs but it is an OSM data issue (if an exact boundary  is well

Re: [talk-au] Contributions to Road Geometry in Perth, Australia

2020-08-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Just to confirm: All edits will be made by human without any fully automated edits, right? 15 Aug 2020, 04:17 by o...@nextbillion.ai: > > Hi all, > > > > > > We’re a small team based out of Hyderabad, India. We would be doing minimal > edits in Perth and contribute to OSM in the next couple of

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

2020-07-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
u have to accept it and deal > with change. > > A Hughes > > > On Sat, 18 Jul 2020 at 23:10, Sebastian Spiess <> mapp...@consebt.de> > wrote: > >> On 9/7/20 7:52 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au wrote: >> >>> >>> >>

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

2020-07-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
(1) pollution of tags by such keys is irritating (2) people may split, move, delete, edit or copy such tag wikidata key is slightly better - but requires wikidata entries Jul 20, 2020, 04:33 by daviewa...@disroot.org: > Is there any reason against using a custom tag as a linking key? > > e.g.

Re: [talk-au] Working with local government

2020-07-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 9, 2020, 06:50 by greg.dutkow...@gmail.com: > Hi, > Bicycle Network Tasmania are trying to improve the quality of cycling > infrastructure information in OSM. > Much has been done by volunteers in various jurisdictions, and we have done > lots locally, but the tagging is quite complex

Re: [talk-au] Non-Contributed Information Related to Ways?

2020-07-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 9, 2020, 03:00 by ahhug...@gmail.com: > Hi Again All, > > We would like to investigate how we should store information which is related > to ways given the following: > > + Some specific information we are looking to store is to meet our needs. We > do have every intention to offer and

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jul 7, 2020, 15:37 by ahhug...@gmail.com: > When I say "correlation", we really like to know that a satisfactory amount > of (Govt) gazetted roads exist is OSM. If we could identify missing roads > that would be ideal. > For the first step maybe comparing names with mostly ignoring geometry

Re: [talk-au] OSM Way & Govt Street (centerline) Correlation, how?

2020-07-07 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Also, in nearly any dataset some errors will appear. If error is in OSM then fixing is relatively easy, just edit OSM. But what if centerline in government data is wrong? Malformed geometry, mapping of nonexisting road etc "what we might expect when looking to achieve the correlation we need"

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jun 19, 2020, 15:30 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > > On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 23:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> Can you consider using more specific surface? Like surface=asphalt? >> > > The pr

Re: [talk-au] "All Bicycles" signage and the associated permissions

2020-06-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jun 19, 2020, 14:58 by suburbansilvervl...@gmail.com: > highway=cycleway > oneway=yes > surface=paved > Can you consider using more specific surface? Like surface=asphalt? > I'm curious to whether the road beyond should be tagged with bicycle=no up > until the next intersection. For

Re: [talk-au] How to tag plantations?

2020-06-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jun 17, 2020, 13:35 by mapslit...@gmail.com: > Perhaps then, landuse=forest and plantation=yes would be a better > combination, instead of natural=wood? > Yes - people that distinguish between this tags will be happy, people not distinguishing between this two tags will be happy. You can

Re: [talk-au] How to tag plantations?

2020-06-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jun 17, 2020, 12:35 by andrew.harv...@gmail.com: > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 20:13, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au <> > talk-au@openstreetmap.org> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Jun 17, 2020, 11:48 by >> mapslit...@gmail.com>>

Re: [talk-au] How to tag plantations?

2020-06-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Jun 17, 2020, 11:48 by mapslit...@gmail.com: > source:geometry... etc. > source is better tagged in changeset tag itself (or in description of changeset if you use iD) > Thus, “plantation=yes” distinguishes plantations from natural forests > Good idea, there are some people trying to use

Re: [talk-au] OSM area measurement capabilities

2020-05-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Not sure is there tool doing something like that (I am aware about counter of total road distance of mapped roads), and presenting results online. But standard way to do this would be running query on a pgsql database or using QGIS. JOSM has area tool (as a plugin), but it would double count

Re: [talk-au] TfNSW Cycleways use in OSM

2020-02-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Is it possible that they are listing  roads with minor traffic, connecting parts of real bicycle infrastructure? In my city (Kraków, Poland) municipality was doing someting like that. Partially it was reasonable, partially desperate attempt to hide traffic state of bicycle infrastructure. (And

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
Feb 17, 2020, 10:29 by thesw...@gmail.com: > On 17/2/20 7:13 pm, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > >> What about a stockpile? And material=gravel/dirt/sand/...? >> > > landuse=stockpile > resource=aggregate ? > I would use landuse=industrial industrial=* as it is in form easier to actually use

Re: [talk-au] Gravel pits?

2020-02-17 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-au
I used landuse=industrial industrial=warehouse for something similar. Though I admit that I am now not sure whatever "warehouse" fits well for pile of coal, even one that has specialized equipment supporting it. I see also material= product = warehouse= tags used to tag what is stored there (