Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-09-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2 September 2017 at 05:07, Éric Gillet wrote: >> Well it seems as if exactly -that- wasn't happening which is why this >> thread was started in the first place. Seems however that the brakes have >> been put on now, see the brakes have not been put on; every day, hundreds/thousands more buildi

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-09-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 1 September 2017 at 02:55, Simon Poole wrote: > Sorry for responding to this late. > > Just because a specific source has been legally "OK"ed doesn't imply > that an import of all the data from a specific source is warranted and > should continue on for all times. The import guidelines are sile

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-09-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 17 August 2017 at 01:29, Richard wrote: > soneone else has to answer that but I was under the impression that > the LINZ has been looked at in detail. It seems to be an import effort > that is underway since many years. yes, but they keep adding more and more detail to the "LINZ" pile. LINZ is

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-09-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 16 August 2017 at 06:31, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > I see that these buildings have got one author who has on his statistics > page about 6 thousand edits. How do you know that these buildings were > actually imported and not drawn manually in an editor? Was there a clear > acknowledgement about

[OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-15 Thread Robin Paulson
Before I ask for assistance, please note this: I've already brought this up on osm-imports and got nowhere useful. There are a number of users in NZ doing mass imports of building data in Auckland (I estimate 500,000 buildings), while wilfully ignoring community guidelines. I have asked numerous

[OSM-talk] leaky coastline, auckland?

2016-11-17 Thread Robin Paulson
hi all, i've had a coastline problem for a few weeks now, i can't figure out what it is, perhaps someone here can help. when i view osm data in osmand, i get a lot of leaks around the waitemata harbour in auckland, new zealand: land rendering as sea/sea rendering as land. the data is up-to-da

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

2016-01-08 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2016-01-08 06:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: You could even see it the other way round: any website is a kind of database (structured information). Has google a right to copy this, or index it (i.e. create a derivative database)? maybe, maybe not. they could argue that most web sites want to

Re: [OSM-talk] how do i get a mapper to engage with the community over mass imports?

2015-04-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2015-04-24 17:37, Clifford Snow wrote: Is this work part of what is described on the wiki [1] for importing no, this isn't linz data, it's a new set from auckland council. the page below hasn't been touched in 3 years. Linz data? Have you discussed this on the New Zealand mailing list?

[OSM-talk] how do i get a mapper to engage with the community over mass imports?

2015-04-23 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, i live in auckland, nz. a mapper [1] here is currently importing a giant data set of building outlines for auckland, by my estimate 300,000+ ways. until yesterday, on my insistence, he'd made no mention of this on any of the relevant discussion lists (local nz chapter, osm imports list) an

[OSM-talk] a license violation in the new zealand herald?

2013-07-28 Thread Robin Paulson
i'm not one hundred percent, but this looks a lot like a static image taken of osm. the area is the cook strait, between the two biggest islands of new zealand. the only attribution on the image is to "Geonet", which I presume is some organisation which studies earthquakes (for those not in th

Re: [OSM-talk] Native American/First Nation, etc. Reservation Boundaries

2013-04-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-04-20 09:49, Clifford Snow wrote: I think I understand that the existing administrative levels dont work. In the US at least, the reservations have a  "domestic dependent nation" status.  They are not States, Counties yet contain cities. The often extend past state boundaries, and certain

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

2013-04-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-04-01 04:57, Clay Smalley wrote: This seems silly and useless. The imagery is subject to change and the way will become obsolete. I dont see a point in mapping this, and Im all data in the database is subject to change and will become obsolete, there is nothing unusual in that happeni

Re: [OSM-talk] Branding?

2013-02-22 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-23 09:05, Simon Poole wrote: A trademark and other IP use policy is one of the things the new OSMF How do we reconcile relatively permissive use of the OSM database, with relatively restrictive use of the Open Street Map name? For the moment, I put to one side Stallman's argument t

[OSM-talk] mapping bridges - some ideas

2013-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
i've been thinking about this for a while and it's bugging me, so i'd like to hear what the rest of you think. the way we map bridges at the moment is by adding tags to the road/railway/footpath/etc., something like this: bridge = yes layer = 1 which seems a bit clumsy, and doesn't reflect ve

Re: [OSM-talk] iD editor making copyright violation easy

2013-02-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-07 11:08, Robin Paulson wrote: On 2013-02-07 09:32, Stephan Knauss wrote: Hi, the new iD editor allows to supply a custom imagery layer. is the new editor live? i understood it was only in use on a dev instance at the moment? sorry, ignore the noise, i found the answer

Re: [OSM-talk] iD editor making copyright violation easy

2013-02-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-07 09:32, Stephan Knauss wrote: Hi, the new iD editor allows to supply a custom imagery layer. is the new editor live? i understood it was only in use on a dev instance at the moment? -- robin http://universitywithoutconditions.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-05 20:15, Clifford Snow wrote: Yet Google gets the press that thanks to them, North Korea has now been mapped. In an ideal world, the local community should be the lead communicator. But having a PR staff for OSM is just smart. Good press is going to help us raise money for new server

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-05 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-05 19:36, Bryce Cogswell wrote: Indeed. I suppose if one joins a project on the assumption that there is no direction and no goals, at least you'll never be disappointed in how it turns out. that's not what i said at all, or what i was implying. and your point is a straw man argum

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
hen by definition we won't hear from them, so we won't know if there are any problems, such as poor representation. so whether the other successful OS projects are representing everyone or not is difficult to judge On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: On 2013-02

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-05 06:56, Simon Poole wrote: participated it has always struck me how little alignment of goals there is in the community as a whole (I'm not saying it is surprising, just that is so). Outside the very generic mission that OSM "creates and distributes free geographic data for the w

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-04 07:02, Michal Migurski wrote: which concerns me no end. what position of authority does simon hold? over whom? Simon is the elected chairman of the OSMF board, and can speak on its behalf. He holds a position of authority over the Geocode Inc. issue because apparently the foundati

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-03 12:14, Michal Migurski wrote: Communication is hard, and there are ways to do it that make people feel like they're getting a complete story instead of a confused glimpse through an accidentally-open door. Simon's mail left out a lot of important things, most notably that he's a me

Re: [OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-03 10:23, Chris Hill wrote: Maybe a few of you braver than the brave, loud-mouthed, armchair lawyers should just STFU and give the board a break. this is an ad hominem [1] and thus an irrelevancy, it aims to discredit the people, while ignoring what's being said. can you stick to th

Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?

2013-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-03 07:41, Jeff Meyer wrote: was: geocoding trademark thread I think Paweł has hit on a key question: does the OSMF have plans to operate and lead OSM in a more efficient, organized manner or not? what makes you think anyone wants to be lead, i certainly don't? or wants to be organi

Re: [OSM-talk] STFU

2013-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-02-03 13:29, Tom Taylor wrote: I'm interested in OSM. I do mapping. I subscribed to Talk after a few weeks on Newbies, but all these political outcries strongly tempt me to unsubscribe. They don't contribute to the mapping that is presumably our primary interest. maps are inherently pol

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

2013-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
to learn. instead of more software, more tools, perhaps what they need is someone talking with them? maybe they are the types that don't read help guides, that if they can't understand it straight away give up, rather than search for help or advice? On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Rob

Re: [OSM-talk] a license violation?

2013-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-01-02 23:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/1/2 Robin Paulson : i was looking for unusual uses of osm data, and found this: http://store.axismaps.com/product/boston-blue "Oops! We couldn’t find that page." are you sure? try from here:: http://store.axismaps.com/categ

[OSM-talk] a license violation?

2013-01-02 Thread Robin Paulson
i was looking for unusual uses of osm data, and found this: http://store.axismaps.com/product/boston-blue osm is mentioned on the web site, but not on the poster itself. suggestions, comments, etc. requested please. -- robin http://universitywithoutconditions.ac.nz - Auckland's Free Universit

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

2013-01-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2013-01-02 07:26, Jeff Meyer wrote: I agree that rules can be tricky. Would it be possible, to play around with the code youve written, to see what results it generates? The issue Im trying to address is this: people who sign up for OSM & then make 0 edits. Why? Is it because they cannot fin

Re: [OSM-talk] what to do cues

2012-12-30 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2012-12-31 18:54, Jeff Meyer wrote: Are there any tools that can tip users to what they could do in a particular map area? For example, for a given bb(zoom>some min) in a browser window, is there anything that says: - Hey, relative to other (or selected best-practice examples) areas like the

[OSM-talk] there are lots of falkland islands

2012-11-21 Thread Robin Paulson
tens, possibly hundreds in fact. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8629&lon=-58.2445&zoom=13&layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-51.8315&lon=-58.9263&zoom=12&layers=M perhaps an import gone wrong? -- robin http://universitywithoutconditions.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University _

[OSM-talk] fences, trees and houses

2012-11-20 Thread Robin Paulson
i've done some quite detailed editing near where i live, i'd appreciate anyone who is interested taking a look and responding. i'm not sure what to make of the result. for one, my partner, a non-mapper, has told me she finds it very confusing, which potentially raises questions http://www.op

Re: [OSM-talk] Data copied from Google Maps

2012-11-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2012-11-04 19:08, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2(e) use the Products in a manner that gives you or any other person access to mass downloads or bulk feeds of any Content, including but not limited to numerical latitude or longitude coordinates, imagery, and visible map data; so checking the o

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction finished already?

2012-07-26 Thread Robin Paulson
On 26 July 2012 08:17, Simon Poole wrote: > Imports are by their intrinsic nature never urgent (it is not as if the > 3rd party data is going to vanish if you don't import it today). I would > strongly suggest doing something more useful, like helping with > remapping Australia or Poland, than was

[OSM-talk] return of the 'NoName' layer on the osm.org map?

2012-07-26 Thread Robin Paulson
given a major deletion of osm data occurred in the last week or two, there are now possibly millions of roads and other items which will be re-mapped. it would be very useful to get the NoName layer back on the front page, to assist with this. could i most humbly request that happen please? -- rob

[OSM-talk] nasa funded measurement of forest heights

2012-02-20 Thread Robin Paulson
this popped up on slashdot today, i'd be interested to hear what the rest of you think - is the data high enough resolution to include in OSM? or any other uses for it, like making the SRTM data more accurate http://lidarradar.jpl.nasa.gov/ http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/02/20/2334207/lidar-

[OSM-talk] what is happening here - potlatch oddness with orange highlights?

2012-01-16 Thread Robin Paulson
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=-36.878407&lon=174.741523&zoom=19 the landuse polygon has an orange highlight on it, why does it do that? -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://

Re: [OSM-talk] XML database VS PostgreSQL for OSM

2011-10-26 Thread Robin Paulson
> Please don't comment on this if you don't know what an XML database is > or how it functions. It is not a simple documentstore analogue to a > filesystem. ok, cheers. -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ talk mailing list talk@

Re: [OSM-talk] XML database VS PostgreSQL for OSM

2011-10-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19 October 2011 20:58, dre . wrote: > Considering an OSM data fragment representing a town as Paris, London, etc, > I wonder assets and drawbacks of using a XML file (myTown.osm) against tools > as pgRouting or another PostgreSQL based database for routing, > visualization, updates from main se

Re: [OSM-talk] user rankings (was: Re: featured image)

2011-09-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 8 September 2011 10:03, Stephan Knauss wrote: > I thought about "user rankings" some time ago as well. I have mixed > feelings. > On the one hand it might be a way to motivate users to contribute more and > to reward users having contributed "more useful" things than others. > > On the other ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Moving Map on Netbook?

2011-08-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 5 August 2011 11:31, Frederik Ramm wrote: >   I'd like to use my netbook to show a moving map. Assuming that I somehow > get gpsd hooked up and delivering position reports[*], what software can I > use? which distro are you using frederik? i use ubuntu and debian on my hp laptop and openmoko

Re: [OSM-talk] Blatant case of tagging for the renderer

2011-07-31 Thread Robin Paulson
On 30 July 2011 01:19, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > I'll leave it for a few days so others can see it in all its glory :) > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408390 > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31408400 gah, i see this all the time in akl name='Public car park" http://www.openst

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 28 July 2011 12:06, Joseph Reeves wrote: > name: Magdalen Road > pronounced: More-da-lin Road > > ? > > That's ridiculous if you ask me. If you're making sat nav software for a > market (the UK, France, America, etc.) you should be able to work out these > things yourself. why? in that instan

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 28 July 2011 10:45, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/7/28 Richard Mann : >> "name" is what is on (the majority of) the signs > > > name is the name. Or what would be the name if the sign-majority was > defined and there were 2 differing signs? nil? Or if there was 1 sign > and that was spellt

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 27 July 2011 12:40, Ed Loach wrote: > like S St N on Google where they've abbreviated South Street North, > for example, which just looks silly). This seems to agree with > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name#Notes ha, there's a road near me labelled on sign posts as: Grt Sth Rd which

Re: [OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 11 July 2011 13:32, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2011/7/7 Jochen Topf : >> On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 03:35:07PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: >>> is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names?... >>> i was under the impression consensus was to type the full wor

Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 21 July 2011 04:54, Richard Weait wrote: > Color-coded map of ODbL status > http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/ accepted the odbl? has anyone voted on that yet? or do you mean accepted the CT? -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights

Re: [OSM-talk] Orphaned Relations

2011-07-18 Thread Robin Paulson
On 18 July 2011 23:15, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I'd be tempted to delete them all if they're older than 3 months or so. Some > of you said that it might have been something valuable accidentally deleted, > but if nobody noticed that within 3 months then it cannot have been *so* > valuable. (And if i

[OSM-talk] house numbers, new zealand style

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Paulson
i'm currently adding house numbers to some properties in my locality (and using this to prepare for an import). the problem is this: some blocks of houses have both a street address and a unit number. so we might have the situation of 12/8 mount eden road, auckland which means: property number 12

Re: [OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7 July 2011 23:59, Richard Mann wrote: > With P2 the easier way of working is to select a whole series of ways > (ctrl-click to add a second way while maintaining selection of the > first), then add all of the ways to a relation (or multiple relations) > at the same time. > > You can select all

Re: [OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7 July 2011 23:02, Dave F. wrote: > You don't actually say what the problem is. err, what? the problem is managing the ways inside the editor (potlatch 2). it gets very messy and is hard to keep track of. i find at later dates i have made several mistakes that need correcting > If you mean cu

Re: [OSM-talk] new zealand, australia

2011-07-07 Thread Robin Paulson
that nominatim is associating it with. So I guess this is "correct" > but perhaps a little confusing in how it is displayed. Perhaps you > should rename your continent to avoid this confusion! yes, we're in oceania now > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Robin Paulson >

[OSM-talk] new zealand, australia

2011-07-06 Thread Robin Paulson
i did a search for new zealand, and was heartened to find we are now part of australia. at last, we have come to our senses and joined as a nation! slightly more seriously, could someone help with the labelling of the node for nz? apart from somehow being part of australia, if i click on the searc

[OSM-talk] shortened names

2011-07-06 Thread Robin Paulson
is there any consensus on shortening of parts of names? e.g.: street/st saint/st avenue/ave point/pt mount/mt i was under the impression consensus was to type the full word, then renderers would shorten where necessary? apparently some mappers disagree though -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blo

Re: [OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

2011-07-06 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6 July 2011 22:39, Pieren wrote: > Detaching intersection nodes is not something usual. At the moment, the > complexity is more on managing ways with an increasing amount of relations > and an increasing amount of segments within the relations for a single > street. hmm, all interesting ideas

[OSM-talk] adding multiple relations (bus routes) to one road

2011-07-05 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, I'm currently adding a lot of bus routes to roads in central Auckland. problem is, it's getting hard to manage. some road segments have 40+ routes on them, which gets complicated. here is an example of one which I've added 12 routes to; there will be lots more http://www.openbusmap.org/?zoom=

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured mapping, parks

2011-07-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 4 July 2011 12:09, Josh Doe wrote: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.76211&lon=-77.29749&zoom=15&layers=M > (Burke Lake Park) > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.77389&lon=-77.10726&zoom=17&layers=M > (Lee District Park) > > I'd appreciate any links to well mapped parks, and perhaps I c

[OSM-talk] the map on osm.org - airstrips showing only at zoom 10

2011-06-23 Thread Robin Paulson
mappers in NZ have recently imported a lot of grass airstrips into OSM. it appears the airstrips only render at zoom 10 on the mapnik render of the map at osm.org, which looks like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.243&lon=175.014&zoom=10&layers=M is there any particular reason for this

Re: [OSM-talk] the contributor terms - editing in josm/potlatch

2011-06-19 Thread Robin Paulson
On 20 June 2011 16:20, Toby Murray wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Robin Paulson > wrote: >> i can still edit ok in potlatch 1 >> >> what's happening? > > I believe the next phase of the license change went into effect today. > You must accept t

[OSM-talk] the contributor terms - editing in josm/potlatch

2011-06-19 Thread Robin Paulson
a few weeks back, i was forced to either accept or decline the CTs. from what i recall, i declined. i've been editing in potlatch ever since, but today tried out josm, as potlatch 2 is broken. apparently, i now can't edit, as "Authorisation at the OSM server failed The server reported the followin

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2.2

2011-06-19 Thread Robin Paulson
On 20 June 2011 05:12, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > I'm pleased to announce Potlatch 2.2 is live. when i try and save edits, i get 'saving changeset NaN' and then it refuses, giving: "Couldn't upload data: HTTP request error" also, the bing imagery is not showing, even when i select it in the 'back

[OSM-talk] open bus map - the maintainers?

2011-06-13 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, does anyone know who maintains the open bus map? i discovered it earlier - fantastic work, something i'd looked for for a while, but wanted to make a suggestion about rendering the bus routes based on the colour stored in the relation details. any ideas, the website has no contact details any

[OSM-talk] the transport network renders by 3liz

2011-06-08 Thread Robin Paulson
does anyone know anything about this? http://3liz.fr/public/osmtransport/index.php it's rather useful, but it doesn't look like the data set's been updated in a while. is the owner here? cheers, -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ _

[OSM-talk] bus times - existing tags

2011-05-30 Thread Robin Paulson
i'm getting more into tagging bus routes in auckland, and wonder if there is a tagging scheme to cover the times of bus arrivals/departures? i have a few ideas of how it might work, but want to check out the existing system first. i can't find anything on the wiki cheers -- robin http://bumblep

[OSM-talk] naming an item in multiple languages

2011-05-30 Thread Robin Paulson
i live in nz, a country with two (three if you count sign langauge) government-approved languages: english and maori. lots of items are named in both, for example the highest volcano in auckland is called Mount Eden/Manugawhau - the latter literally translates as "hill of the whau tree" so, when

[OSM-talk] poland to open publically-funded data

2011-05-27 Thread Robin Paulson
from slashdot: the polish prime minister announced a bill to ensure all government data will be released as public domain. http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pl&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.premier.gov.pl%2Fcentrum_prasowe%2Fwydarzenia%2Fw_kprm_o_rozwo

Re: [OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 26 May 2011 14:57, Ian wrote: >> JXAPI allows multiple predicates, but they are currently OR'd rather than >> AND'd like I meant them to be. The above query is akin to saying "give me >> all relations with route=bus OR ref=010 OR in bbox=...". > > I just pushed some code out (and deployed to jx

Re: [OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 25 May 2011 02:32, Ian wrote: >> Everything I've read about XAPI and JXAPI has said that only one predicate >> is supported, aside from the bbox predicate.  It's possible that you're >> getting all the bus routes within that bbox. > > JXAPI allows multiple predicates, but they are currently OR'

Re: [OSM-talk] relations within relations - walking trails

2011-05-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 24 May 2011 20:10, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Say you see a way in Potlatch which is a member of relation X (in Robin's > example, the Auckland coast to coast trail), and you want to add this > relation X to another relation, Y, which already exists (in Robin's example, > the 'te araroa' trail). >

[OSM-talk] relations within relations - walking trails

2011-05-23 Thread Robin Paulson
i am mapping walking tracks in new zealand, and have recently added 'te araroa' - the walking track from the top of the north island to the bottom of the south. it is made up at parts of the way of other walking tracks, such as the 'coast to coast' walking track in the auckland region. problem is

Re: [OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 24 May 2011 11:17, Robin Paulson wrote: > i got the impression from the xapi page that relations are not fully > supported on the jxapi servers, either osm or mapquest. > > i tried to download a relation yesterday, with probably 50 members, > and killed it when my firefox ins

Re: [OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 24 May 2011 10:34, Toby Murray wrote: > Do you know about the new jXAPI servers being run by both OSMF and > Mapquest open? I haven't used them recently so I'm not sure if they > are always overloaded as well or not. i got the impression from the xapi page that relations are not fully supporte

Re: [OSM-talk] Building Equals Yes

2011-05-23 Thread Robin Paulson
On 17 May 2011 17:29, Michal Migurski wrote: > By my colleague Aaron Cope: > >        "building=yes is a searchable and linkable index of every singleway > tagged building=yes in OpenStreetMap (OSM). > > A web page for every building in OpenStreetMap! i love it. excellent, and very imaginative.

[OSM-talk] low resource osm xapi instance

2011-05-23 Thread Robin Paulson
hi, based on the issues with the current xapi servers (i.e. almost always overloaded/down), i'm looking at running a separate instance, on the osm new zealand site - purely for serving data nz at the moment. this won't be a huge amount of data - the whole country is around 250mb uncompressed does

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch2 & Firefox 4

2011-04-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 27 April 2011 00:11, Dave F. wrote: > I don't think this is directly P2 related but... > > Using Win XP, SP3. Flash 10.2.153.1 > > I've just upgraded to Firefox 4.0. > > I have multiple tabs open, one with P2 in edit mode. When I have another tab > active & use the middle mouse wheel to scroll

Re: [OSM-talk] Analysing the OSM community

2011-03-30 Thread Robin Paulson
On 30 March 2011 01:12, john whelan wrote: > I shall simply agree with you that a sociological study based on 16 people > falls short of accepted scientific study. > > My personal view is much of sociology would like to be accepted as science > but is for the most part subjective. most sociologis

Re: [OSM-talk] Analysing the OSM community

2011-03-28 Thread Robin Paulson
On 29 March 2011 12:26, john whelan wrote: > Speaking as someone with a background in science I think I agree with > Elizabeth's interpretation. > > I get the impression the study is much more subjective than solid, the > sample size far too small to get any meaningful results other than this > ne

Re: [OSM-talk] Analysing the OSM community

2011-03-28 Thread Robin Paulson
On 29 March 2011 10:09, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > I didn't find the abstract meaningful as it was full of politically > correct speak. well done, an entire scientific study dismissed with a meaningless piece of jargon. perhaps a more in-depth analysis would be more useful? -- robin http://tangle

[OSM-talk] the coastline

2011-03-21 Thread Robin Paulson
i've recently been doing some mapping around auckland, adding coastal walkways. one in particular i walked on sunday has two routes: one at the foot of the cliffs, one on the road at the top of the cliffs. the lower route is under water when the tide is in, so walkers are advised to follow the road

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping hypotheticals with OSM, e.g., for public charrettes?

2011-03-08 Thread Robin Paulson
On 9 March 2011 06:58, Tom Roche wrote: > I like the sound of the latter option, since I'd prefer not to hafta > setup a separate system. But again, I don't know enough about OSM to > implement that. Where would I go to learn? a good start for all development-related items: http://wiki.openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] infrastructure tracing in Christchurch

2011-03-02 Thread Robin Paulson
On 3 March 2011 03:22, Richard Weait wrote: > Bounding box contains ~53,000 objects and 94 users, extends roughly: > Canon Street in the north, Coleridge Street in the south, Tui Street > in the west and Bracken Street in the east. don't forget the equally incredible work in sumner (east of the c

[OSM-talk] infrastructure tracing in Christchurch

2011-03-01 Thread Robin Paulson
hi osmers, a few days ago NZ mappers asked if anyone was interested in mapping christchurch infrastructure, as part of the rescue effort for the recent earthquake there. well, the response has been phenomenal. very few have said they were or weren't helping, they just got on with it. someone crea

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering map tiles with mapnik - hardware requirements

2011-03-01 Thread Robin Paulson
On 2 March 2011 00:42, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Yes, you will not need a very big machine. I am currently rendering > Italy (similar in size to NZ) and it takes around 2 days with a really haha. italy has 14 times the data of NZ, so i guess we can reduce that time somewhat... > lame laptop (

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering map tiles with mapnik - hardware requirements

2011-02-28 Thread Robin Paulson
On 1 March 2011 10:22, Richard Weait wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Robin Paulson > wrote: >> we at OSM New Zealand are looking at rendering our own (NZ-only) >> tiles, and we'd like to get a rough idea of the hardware requirements >> we will need >&

[OSM-talk] rendering map tiles with mapnik - hardware requirements

2011-02-28 Thread Robin Paulson
we at OSM New Zealand are looking at rendering our own (NZ-only) tiles, and we'd like to get a rough idea of the hardware requirements we will need are there any rules of thumb for how long it would take to render a given lat/lon bbox, using mapnik? i assume lat/lon is the independent variable, a

Re: [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 28 February 2011 14:37, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: > I created a Garmin gmapsupp.img with OSM data and additionally the > map from www.nzopengps.org as extra layers as it has good data too. it does indeed - this is government-derived data, originally sourced from LINZ, and even better quality on

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 28 February 2011 12:45, Robin Paulson wrote: > well spotted richard - you're right, there is only one mosgiel and > it's not near chch. my mistake, please ignore that. i've checked and > sumner, lyttelton and central city are correct though also, Redhills, Mount Plea

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-27 Thread Robin Paulson
On 28 February 2011 05:26, Richard Weait wrote: >> the other areas badly hit were mosgiel, lyttleton and sumner (all >> suburbs in/close to christchurch) - if anyone could add data there, >> that would be fantastic also > > This Mosgiel seems further from CHCH (near Dunedin) Do I have the wrong on

Re: [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-26 Thread Robin Paulson
On 25 February 2011 13:42, Robin Paulson wrote: > NZ mappers have been discussing how they can help, and we have decided > it would be useful to trace as many of these pieces of infrastructure update: chch building mapping is going very well, thanks to whoever is helping. the other areas

Re: [OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 25 February 2011 13:42, Robin Paulson wrote: > High quality post-earthquake imagery will be available in the next > 24-48 hours [1], to enable further tracing [2], to show the current > situation. > [1] we're not sure where or how yet - perhaps someone can assist here &g

[OSM-talk] Crisis mapping - assistance requested for infrastructure mapping in Christchurch

2011-02-24 Thread Robin Paulson
Hi OSM mappers, As most of you are probably aware, we had a severe earthquake in Christchurch, New Zealand this week, killing over 100 people and demolishing or damaging hundreds, possibly thousands of the following: buildings roads bridges water mains electricity supplies sewage drains other major

Re: [OSM-talk] Why isn't any XAPI server available ?

2011-02-20 Thread Robin Paulson
On 19 February 2011 12:06, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > David Murn wrote: >> If the service isnt designed to be portable (it only runs on one >> system currently, in the world), then who cares about java, >> why isnt it written in optimized C or some other similarly >> lowish level language, rather

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam?]Re: Underground / hovering buildings

2011-02-16 Thread Robin Paulson
On 17 February 2011 12:21, David Murn wrote: > Ive fixed quite a number of spots where keepright has picked up a river > and highway on the same layer (=0), generally without a junction node. i wonder what would be the consequences of scripting this? if layer does not exist and bridge = yes then

Re: [OSM-talk] Underground / hovering buildings

2011-02-14 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15 February 2011 10:26, Andrew Guertin wrote: > I have a few buildings that are not simply at ground level, and I can't > find how to map them on the wiki. > > First off, a skywalk between two buildings. Nothing fancy, although it > does go over a road. building=yes bridge=yes layer=1 > Secon

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2011-02-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 8 December 2010 11:14, David Murn wrote: > Once all the licence issues are resolved and we know whether projects > will be forked or our data removed, then Ill start dumping all my edits > back in.  Ive also tried working on parts of New Zealand, but have come > up against a brick wall as there

Re: [OSM-talk] osm new zealand website and community launch

2011-02-07 Thread Robin Paulson
On 7 February 2011 17:11, Richard Weait wrote: >> How do i get meetings included in the wiki front page? > > 1) Log in to the wiki.  The wiki account is separate from your api account. > 2) Add your event to the wiki calendar.  [1] > > > [1] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Templat

[OSM-talk] osm new zealand website and community launch

2011-02-06 Thread Robin Paulson
Hi all, OSM New Zealand have recently launched their website, and announced meetings beginning this month: http://www.openstreetmap.org.nz/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_New_Zealand#OSM_Auckland_meetings Other than this list, is there any particular place in the world of osm where

Re: [OSM-talk] military vs consumer GPS and the equator

2011-01-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 26 January 2011 11:22, Steve Doerr wrote: > Whether a similar error regarding the Equator has crept into WGS84, I'm not > sure. Lines of latitude are not arbitrary in the way lines of longitude are. is this entirely the case? i was under the impression the earth is not actually that regular in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-in-a-box doubts...

2011-01-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 26 January 2011 06:42, Juan Lucas Domínguez Rubio wrote: > Is there a better mailing list than this to get help about this? osm-dev? http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/ -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] osm new zealand website js problems

2011-01-24 Thread Robin Paulson
On 25 January 2011 09:57, Milo van der Linden wrote: > You have some javascript errors. Missing ; or ) > > Please go to http://www.jslint.com/ and paste the content of site.js there. > - > The biggest problems are: > > Problem at line 31 character 3: Mixed space

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