[OSM-talk-ie] Youtube video talk by Richard Cantwell

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Richard Cantwell, a GIS professional and OSM mapper explains how to mix
open and propriety information and the licensing considerations around the
publishing of that work. As well as the effect on the industry that a open
perspective brings to it. Richard can be contacted on twitter at
@manaboutcouch
https://youtu.be/uFrnn-fKMJQ
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[OSM-talk-ie] Interview with Allan Mustard

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Dermot interviews @allan_mustard while he maps buildings in Ireland, talks
about his origins in mapping, the role of foundation in aiding the creation
of the map through funding and employing of staff, to the boards
relationship with corporate sponsors.
https://youtu.be/BC0J_mIwm4E
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Voltage warning

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As luck would have the same warning appeared in this tile.
https://tasks.openstreetmap.ie/project/64?task=70

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 12:47, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I don't know where it was as it was through building Ireland and they've
> been changing with the mapping month. If I come across another one I'll
> make a note of the place.
>
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 00:27, Donal Hunt  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the insight Colm.
>>
>> The only comment I'll make is that "low voltage" in electrical circles in
>> <
>> 1000V. High voltage is anything above 1000V. Trying to align with that may
>> be worthwhile (probably too late).
>>
>> On thing we can agree on is that there is a lot left to map!
>>
>> Donal
>>
>> On Mon 2 Nov 2020, 23:14 Colm Moore,  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > It is difficult to determine the exact voltage on each piece of the
>> > electricity network without going to inspect each individual device on
>> site
>> > (potentially difficult, unsafe, potentially illegal), although there are
>> > some visual clues in the overhead photos (size of substation, power
>> route,
>> > size & type of pole, etc.). There are hundreds of thousands of
>> transformers
>> > and twice as much power line as there is public roads.
>> >
>> > voltage=low, voltage:primary=low, voltage:secondary=low, etc. are
>> > placeholder values I created to help identify the voltages used on the
>> > power network.
>> >
>> >   1.  voltage=* can apply to any part of any electrical device.
>> >   2.  voltage:primary=* primarily applies to transformers and
>> substations
>> > and is the voltage for the side the power is coming from.
>> >   3.  voltage:secondary=* primarily applies to transformers and
>> > substations and is the voltage for the side the power is going to.
>> >   4.  There are also voltage:tertiary=* and voltage:quaternary=* for
>> > locations with multiple voltages.
>> >
>> > These are the values I have been using:
>> >
>> >   1.  High = I presume the voltage to be 110,000 volts or higher but
>> can't
>> > say which.
>> >   2.  Medium = I presume the voltage to be 38,000 volts but can't say
>> for
>> > definite.
>> >   3.  Low = I presume the voltage to be 20,000 volts or lower but can't
>> > say which.
>> >
>> > The network operators and voltages used across Ireland are below.
>> >
>> > Could I ask where the error is showing? The usual debugging sites
>> normally
>> > associate errors with the most recent contributor - usually me.
>> >
>> > Colm
>> >
>> > -
>> >
>> > EirGrid (Republic of Ireland and Ireland-Britain)
>> > 40 - high
>> > 22 - high
>> > 11 - high
>> >
>> > ESB Networks (Republic of Ireland)
>> > 38000 - medium
>> > 2 - low
>> > 1 - low
>> > 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
>> > 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>> >
>> > NIE Networks (Northern Ireland)
>> > 40 - high
>> > 275000 - high
>> > 11 - high
>> > 33000 - medium
>> > 19000 - low
>> > 11000 - low
>> > 6600 - low
>> > 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
>> > 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
>> >
>> > Mutual Energy (Northern Ireland-Britain)
>> > 25
>> >
>> > Irish Rail
>> > 1500
>> >
>> > Luas
>> > 750
>> >
>> > Other Operators
>> > 60
>> > 33000
>> > 2
>> > 19000
>> > 1
>> > Various
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret
>> Mead
>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Voltage warning

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I don't know where it was as it was through building Ireland and they've
been changing with the mapping month. If I come across another one I'll
make a note of the place.

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 00:27, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> Thanks for the insight Colm.
>
> The only comment I'll make is that "low voltage" in electrical circles in <
> 1000V. High voltage is anything above 1000V. Trying to align with that may
> be worthwhile (probably too late).
>
> On thing we can agree on is that there is a lot left to map!
>
> Donal
>
> On Mon 2 Nov 2020, 23:14 Colm Moore,  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > It is difficult to determine the exact voltage on each piece of the
> > electricity network without going to inspect each individual device on
> site
> > (potentially difficult, unsafe, potentially illegal), although there are
> > some visual clues in the overhead photos (size of substation, power
> route,
> > size & type of pole, etc.). There are hundreds of thousands of
> transformers
> > and twice as much power line as there is public roads.
> >
> > voltage=low, voltage:primary=low, voltage:secondary=low, etc. are
> > placeholder values I created to help identify the voltages used on the
> > power network.
> >
> >   1.  voltage=* can apply to any part of any electrical device.
> >   2.  voltage:primary=* primarily applies to transformers and substations
> > and is the voltage for the side the power is coming from.
> >   3.  voltage:secondary=* primarily applies to transformers and
> > substations and is the voltage for the side the power is going to.
> >   4.  There are also voltage:tertiary=* and voltage:quaternary=* for
> > locations with multiple voltages.
> >
> > These are the values I have been using:
> >
> >   1.  High = I presume the voltage to be 110,000 volts or higher but
> can't
> > say which.
> >   2.  Medium = I presume the voltage to be 38,000 volts but can't say for
> > definite.
> >   3.  Low = I presume the voltage to be 20,000 volts or lower but can't
> > say which.
> >
> > The network operators and voltages used across Ireland are below.
> >
> > Could I ask where the error is showing? The usual debugging sites
> normally
> > associate errors with the most recent contributor - usually me.
> >
> > Colm
> >
> > -
> >
> > EirGrid (Republic of Ireland and Ireland-Britain)
> > 40 - high
> > 22 - high
> > 11 - high
> >
> > ESB Networks (Republic of Ireland)
> > 38000 - medium
> > 2 - low
> > 1 - low
> > 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> > 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
> >
> > NIE Networks (Northern Ireland)
> > 40 - high
> > 275000 - high
> > 11 - high
> > 33000 - medium
> > 19000 - low
> > 11000 - low
> > 6600 - low
> > 400 (often referred to as 380-415) - low
> > 230 (often referred to as 220-240) - low
> >
> > Mutual Energy (Northern Ireland-Britain)
> > 25
> >
> > Irish Rail
> > 1500
> >
> > Luas
> > 750
> >
> > Other Operators
> > 60
> > 33000
> > 2
> > 19000
> > 1
> > Various
> >
> >
> >
> ---
> > Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
> > change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. Margaret
> Mead
> >
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] voltage warning

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I'm getting an error for voltage=low for a transformer. Had a look at the
wiki but not sure what should to use instead.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:voltage:secondary
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[OSM-talk-ie] Clonmel event

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Mapping for #heritageweek2020
 in Clonmel this Saturday
is confirmed. Sign up on FB. facebook.com/events/1068505…

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[OSM-talk-ie] Heritage Week 2020

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As part of Heritage Week 2020, we plan to join mappers and local history
enthusiasts to enhance the neglected midlands.

https://www.openstreetmap.ie/putting-clonmels-history-on-the-map/t
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Estimate of number of building=* in Ireland

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The residential tag should be used for an area not a house.

On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 14:38, Donie Kelly  wrote:

> Don’t buildings have tags? Did I see a residential tag? Is it used in all
> cases?
>
> > On 13 May 2020, at 13:24, Colm Moore  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Inspired by seeing the estimate in the Microgrant application of 5.5
> million buildings on the island of Ireland, I did some number crunching.
> >
> > I downloaded the populations of Kilkenny townlands (1,500+) from the CSO
> and analysed the population against the number of buildings per civil
> parish (100+) for County Kilkenny. This is assuming Kilkenny has all or
> nearly all buildings mapped. Based on my inspections, this is largely true.
> >
> > The CSO data is somewhat distorted for the Kilkenny city area (100+
> townlands), due to the way the CSO have arranged the townlands and civil
> parishes. I could look at this in more detail, but there would be a few
> hours of effort (unless someone has a simple way of calculating number of
> buildings per area, for a large number of areas).
> >
> > I calculated the 'number of buildings per civil parish' using the
> Overpass Turbo query [building=* in "civilparishname, Kilkenny"]. Overpass
> Turbo gives a summary of the data in the bottom right corner of the screen,
> e.g.
> >
> > Loaded – nodes: 4261, ways: 867, relations: 2
> > Displayed – pois: 0, lines: 0, polygons: 866
> >
> > I took the number of polygons to mean the number of buildings (this
> might not be perfect - I don't know how those numbers add up).
> Additionally, some polygons, e.g. building=terrace represent several
> buildings, while in other cases buildings may have been crudely split or
> joined-up.
> >
> > Depending on the civil parish, we're looking at 0.32-2.29 polygons per
> capita (0.44-3.15 people per building). Rural areas ten to have more
> polygons per capita, especially due to farm outbuildings, while urban areas
> have fewer polygons per capita, due to apartments buildings and
> semi-detached buildings (e.g. two square houses joined together might have
> only six nodes).
> >
> > I also calculated 4.40-5.83 nodes per polygon. This means some civil
> parishes have predominantly rectangular polygons / buildings, whereas
> others have many L-shaped or other-shaped polygons / buildings.
> >
> > As I wasn't able to immediately get some 'number of buildings per civil
> parish' numbers (Overpass Turbo had problems returning them, possibly due
> to duplicate names and variations in name spellings), I had to calculate
> them from their component townlands, using the Overpass Turbo query
> [building=* in "townlandname, civilparishname, Kilkenny"].
> >
> > Depending on the townland, we're looking at 0.23-8.00 polygons per
> capita (0.13-4.37 people per building) and 3.91-6.45 nodes per polygon
> (i.e. some townlands have large numbers of semi-detached or terraced
> buildings, whereas others have a high number of complicated-shape polygons
> / buildings or buildings with too many mapped nodes). It is usual to see
> more extreme spreads when looking at smaller areas.
> >
> > I'm coming up with about 5.4 million (close enough!) buildings for the
> whole island, assuming the pattern is the same everywhere. However, as
> shown by analysing the smaller areas, there is variation and the 'final'
> number will vary from that. Of course, given that OSM is an ongoing
> project, there will never be a final number.
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Mapping events next week

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Since many of us are stuck at home we are going to host a series of online
mapping events during the week. Hope some of you can make it.

https://www.openstreetmap.ie/stayhomeandmapirl/

Tadeusz Cantwell
Openstreetmap Ireland
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[OSM-talk-ie] New Youtube page

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

As part of our efforts to bring new mappers into OSM and show them the
ropes for taking part in the building Ireland project we have created a
Youtube page and released a tutorial that could be of interest to anyone
you know who may benefit from a howto.

https://youtu.be/T6bUCbm299s

Tadeusz Cantwell
OSM Ireland
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[OSM-talk-ie] Building Ireland Update

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Hope you're all coping well during the lockdown and maybe even have time to
do some mapping among everything else going on.

Waterford, Kilkenny, Carlow have been mapped, but there is still validation
work to be done.

Sligo is very close to being finished, mostly with a few built up areas
that need to be finished up, so any help to get it all done or validate
what has already been marked as mapped. After that there is a variety of
county and town areas to noodle away to chill out and relax with. :)

*#* *NAME* *CAMPAIGN* *% MAPPED* *% VALIDATED* *CREATED* *LAST UPDATED*
20 #Waterford City #osmIRL #osmIRL_buildings 100 100 3 months ago 1 month
ago
4 #Kilkenny #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 100 71 4 months ago 5 days ago
10 #Carlow #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 100 2 4 months ago 20 hours ago
12 #Sligo #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 95 9 4 months ago 2 hours ago
14 #CorkCity #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 81 11 4 months ago 3 days ago
8 #Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 71 0 4 months ago 3 days ago
13 #Bray #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 58 1 4 months ago 2 months ago
26 #West_Mayo #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 44 0 3 months ago 4 days ago
9 #Wexford #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 38 1 4 months ago 17 hours ago
24 #County_Waterford 
#osmIRL_buildings 30 0 3 months ago 2 days ago
28 #Derry #osmIRL_buildings 
#osmIRL_buildings 21 0 3 months ago 3 months ago
36 #SW Kildare #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 18 0 3 months ago 2 days ago
32 #East Mayo #osmIRL_buildings 
#osmIRL_buildings 12 0 3 months ago 2 months ago
48 #East_Galway #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 9 0 3 months ago 12 hours ago
29 #Drogheda #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 8 0 3 months ago 10 days ago
22 #North_East_Kildare #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 8 0 3 months ago a month ago
15 #GalwayCity #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 7 0 4 months ago 17 days ago
31 #Westmeath #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 7 0 3 months ago 2 months ago
21 #South_Dublin_City 
#osmIRL_buildings 5 0 3 months ago 3 months ago
44 #WestCork #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 5 0 3 months ago a month ago
56 #Newry #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 4 3 2 months ago a month ago
11 #Down #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 3 0 4 months ago 5 days ago
37 #Meath #osmIRL 
#osmIRL_buildings 2 1 3 months ago 18 days ago
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[Talk-de] Building Ireland Project

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Hey, for anyone bored at home, there is lots of mapping to be done in
Ireland. A few months ago we started the Building Ireland Project, to map
all the buildings on the island of Ireland, using the modified HOT tool to
break out the country into squares. As we go on we are rolling out
different areas to map. We aim to have every building at least marked as
building=yes, and more specific tagging at the mappers discretion. Have a
look here. https://tasks.openstreetmap.ie/.


For those interested in high quality mapping drone imagery from Newry,
County Down, N.I taken by the council was opened by community activism. See
my tutorial below.

"To access this wonderful imagery in Newry go to www.openaerialmap.org,
make an account, type Newry in the search, zoom into the middle of the
town, pick a tile and look for Conor Graham in the left hand side column,
and click on the photo to load the imagery. There is a button to open it in
the ID editor.

The open in JOSM link doesn't add the imagery as a new layer, so to do
this, look for the copy TMS link, click on it once, go to JOSM, then
imagery, preferences, add TMS. Put the link in the top box, name the
tileset in the bottom box. Import the data layer from openstreetmap.org as
normal and select the new name from the drop down menu in imagery. It may
take awhile for it to load, they are very detailed!"

Taduesz Cantwell
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[Talk-GB] Building project on the island of Ireland

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Hey, OSM Ireland has started a project to map all the buildings on the
island of Ireland, using the modified HOT tool to break out the country
into squares. As we go on we are rolling out different areas to map.
Currently County Down in N.I is available to map. We aim to have every
building at least marked as building=yes, and more specific tagging at the
mappers discretion. Have a look here. https://tasks.openstreetmap.ie/ and
don't worry you can map anywhere on the island. :) :)

For those interested in high quality mapping drone imagery Newry taken over
by the council and opened by community activism. See my tutorial below.

"To access this wonderful imagery in Newry go to www.openaerialmap.org,
make an account, type Newry in the search, zoom into the middle of the
town, pick a tile and look for Conor Graham in the left hand side column,
and click on the photo to load the imagery. There is a button to open it in
the ID editor.

The open in JOSM link doesn't add the imagery as a new layer, so to do
this, look for the copy TMS link, click on it once, go to JOSM, then
imagery, preferences, add TMS. Put the link in the top box, name the
tileset in the bottom box. Import the data layer from openstreetmap.org as
normal and select the new name from the drop down menu in imagery. It may
take awhile for it to load, they are very detailed!"

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging in the building tasks

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I would say its a matter of design. The focus has been to get all the
buildings done for the island. Perhaps some training could be added to help
identify the different buildings. Talking to people who didn't grow up in
Ireland there can be things that are not obvious, about telling some
buildings apart, like in Lesotho most residential buildings are in a
village and not by themselves. There are also subtle differences between
houses that are now used as farm buildings as a result from rural
depopulation. There was a discussion about this on telegram to map what it
was built for and current use.

It would be interesting to have a discussion on the level of tagging,
time/detail.

On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 11:32 Dave Corley,  wrote:

> With regards it being easier, it is if you don't opt to make it easier to
> do otherwise at the outset.
>
> For example, using iD, your last 4 tags applied appear each time you create
> a new feature. You only need use house/shed/garage/farm_auxiliary once for
> them to appear. In fact you have to do the same level of effort as to only
> use building=yes.
>
> In JOSM, there's a few ways to go to achieve the same or better
>
> I guess the thing is whether this is a result by design or is it an
> unintended consequence.
>
> If its by design, then I would argue that the design could be improved.
>
> If its an unintended consequence, then its just a matter of sorting it out.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think it great that there is a new task to focus the
> local community.
>
> Dave
>
>
> On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 09:12 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <
> talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Tagging everything as houses without
> > checking would be wrong.
> >
> > This way you damage data and turns
> > building=house into duplicate of
> > building=yes
> >
> > Please, do not make this kind of thing.
> > 25 Jan 2020, 09:51 by n...@sqrt.co.uk:
> > > Since the majority of buildings are houses, you could mass tag them all
> > as houses since that would be the least wrong tagging overall.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2020, 08:48 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <>
> > talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> It is typically much faster to add just
> > >>  geometries. Maybe whoever was doing
> > >>  this is not so interested in value of
> > >>  building tag?
> > >>
> > >>  Or maybe a mistake was made somewhere?
> > >>
> > >>  25 Jan 2020, 09:43 by >> davecor...@gmail.com>> :
> > >>
> > >>  > I'll rephrase the question.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Why are these buildings being tagged with the least descriptive tag
> > rather than utilising a more descriptive tag which can be easily done in
> > approx 90% of cases from imagery?
> > >>  >
> > >>  > As I said, maybe I'm missing something here and there is a logical
> > explanation as to why this is being done, I just can't see it.
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Dave
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  > On Sat 25 Jan 2020, 07:51 Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-ie, <> >>
> > talk-ie@openstreetmap.org>> > > wrote:
> > >>  >
> > >>  >> 24 Jan 2020, 23:05 by >> >> davecor...@gmail.com>> >> :
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>  > I'm wondering if there is something I'm missing here. Why are
> we
> > not
> > >>  >>  > tagging buildings with the correct tagging?
> > >>  >>  >
> > >>  >>  building=yes is correct
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>  Adding specific building type is also
> > >>  >>  correct and desirable, but mapping all
> > >>  >>  buildings as building=yes is also correct
> > >>  >>
> > >>  >>  mapping just landuse=residential without
> > >>  >>  mapping any buildings is also correct
> > >>  >>  Similarly, mapping shops just with
> > >>  >>  shop typeshop=convenience/supermarket/etc
> > >>  >>  without specifying name=*, opening_hours=*
> > >>  >>  and other similar tags is also correct.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Computer advice

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Most of us use either JOSM or the browser based ID editor since they are
custom made for mapping in OSM. ArcGIS and QGIS are also used for data
analytics etc, but I've never tried to map with them. The second link
didn't go anywhere, but I did a search for the model number. The Dell 9370
looks like the XPS developer edition laptop, which is overkill for this
JOSM, but it does have a high resolution screen.  The Spectre is a nice
laptop as well, with plenty of system performance to handle the work. If
you are comfortable with that price range, then get a laptop you like,
screen size, keyboard responsiveness, etc, since I presume it'll be used
for other things like emails and web browsing. Go into a Best Buy, even if
you are not buying from there and test out the feel of Spectre. Also buy a
comfortable mouse, as mapping on a trackpad is cumbersome.

Tad

On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 21:43, Thomas A. Montgomery 
wrote:

> What software would you recommend?  ArcGIS, QGIS, JOSM.  I could pick up
> any.  I would appreciate your suggestions and links to any tutorials to
> learn such software.
>
> And any specific branded computer?  I checked with our local Miami
> University (of Ohio) Geography Department and their students use Dell SP5's
> for fieldwork.  Minimum of 13.3 inch screen and upped the RAM from 8 to
> 16.  512 solid state drives.  Also HP Spectre laptops?
> HP:
> https://www8.hp.com/us/en/laptops/premium/index.html#modal=spectre-overlay
>
> Another colleague recommended a Dell 9370 computer.  Amazon locally (US):
>
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/dell/FMfcgxwGBmqSsPlftrCRXcrwhzVmFXfg
>  Seems like a very good price.
>
> What about touch screens vs 2-in-1 computers?  Any preferences for those of
> you in the field?
>
> The Yank
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 6:11 PM Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
>
> > I would add that getting a laptop with at least a HD or 1080p screen will
> > help. Anything less and mapping can get pixilated and harder to see what
> a
> > thing is. It works the other way as well, a 1440p screen can give better
> > clarity as well having used both. That does add a few hundred dollars to
> > the price, so it depends on your budget.
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 19:58, Mateusz Konieczny  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 11 Nov 2019, 23:16 by montg...@fuse.net:
> > >
> > > >  2. I could obtain a copy of ArcGIS.  Or do you use QGIS?
> > > >
> > > It highly depends on a situation (integrating with existing systems,
> > > who would pay for ArcGis licences, needed features), but I would
> consider
> > > QGIS as generally preferable as it is an open source and without
> > expensive
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Computer advice

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I would add that getting a laptop with at least a HD or 1080p screen will
help. Anything less and mapping can get pixilated and harder to see what a
thing is. It works the other way as well, a 1440p screen can give better
clarity as well having used both. That does add a few hundred dollars to
the price, so it depends on your budget.

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wrote:

> 11 Nov 2019, 23:16 by montg...@fuse.net:
>
> >  2. I could obtain a copy of ArcGIS.  Or do you use QGIS?
> >
> It highly depends on a situation (integrating with existing systems,
> who would pay for ArcGis licences, needed features), but I would consider
> QGIS as generally preferable as it is an open source and without expensive
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] How to map Irish pubs?

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

This doesn't directly solve the problem, but you could use the brand tag
and put in the Guinness and other drinks that are traditionally in an Irish
pub if you knew their selection.

On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 21:38, Rory McCann  wrote:

> Hi there fellow OSMers,
>
> What's the best way to tag an Irish pub? Not just a pub in Ireland, but
> a specifically themed "Irish Pub" (which are usually outside Ireland)?
>
> There's ~300 instances of `cuisine=irish`, which would make total sense
> for places which (also) serve food. Traditionally pubs in Ireland would
> rarely serve food. Calling Tayto's “cuisine” is a stretch, and using the
> `cuisine` tag seems weird for a bar/pub that doesn't serve any food.
>
> I've used `theme=irish` once or twice. But I don't think anyone else
> does, and it's not supported. This might be related to mapping “sports
> bars” or other themed bars. In theory the `theme` of a restaurant/bar
> could be different from the `cuisine` of any food/drink it serves, so it
> might make sense to tag this difference.
>
> Thoughts?
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Subject: Re: Thomas Cook shops

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Thanks, I have used once shop=vacant before, now that you mention it. Will
read up on the wiki to see the different intended uses for them. The
old_name is an interesting option.

On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 14:00, Jez Nicholson  wrote:

> I'm a fan of shop=vacant, old_name=Thomas Cook myself
>
> You could argue for not:name=Thomas Cook maybe
>
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 13:34 Tadeusz Cantwell,  wrote:
>
>> I changed the three shops in N.I to disused;shop=travel-agent since I
>> wasn't sure what the best practice was in this case. Not all of them had
>> the wiki links etc. Any advice on a better way?
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] What are your 'must map' features?

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Hi Rebecca, street pictures are very useful for mapping, esp. if they are
in OSM friendly software like Mapillary or OpenStreetcam as there are
plugins where a mapper can see pictures taken in the area being mapped.
Taking pictures 360 around the monument would also be useful as signs, road
markings, power lines, etc can be mapped from the imagery. In fact, it's
often the pictures that seem mundane to others, are the ones with the
details needed to improve the map.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 15:56, Rebecca O'Neill 
wrote:

> I'm happy to help with some of the Wikimedia Commons element if I can.
> Right now we are running a photography competition to get people to take
> photos of National Monuments and structures listed by the National
> Inventory of Architectural Heritage and upload them to Commons:
> www.wikilovesmonuments.ie
> I'd love to see a lot of the more obscure images (that won't ever have a
> dedicated article) be used!
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 14:53, Marc Gemis  wrote:
>
> > (although I do not map in Ireland):
> >
> > * turn:lanes and destination signs, I find this very useful when they
> > are mapped.
> > * wayside shrines (or listed buildings in general) with photos on
> > Wikimedia Commons
> > * dog parks
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 1:26 AM Colm Moore 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > So, for whatever reason, some of us are interested in specific
> > localities or projects, e.g. minutely mapping a whole village or
> > neighbourhood, all the roads in a county or perhaps something more
> > specific, e.g. mapping all shops in a chain or technical, e.g. I do a
> fair
> > bit of debugging of disconnected roads.
> > >
> > > There are some features that I feel I 'must' map, e.g. if something has
> > a reference number (road, bus stop, rubbish bin (Dublin City Council has
> > them)), I want to map it. I *really* like mapping / filling in details on
> > electrical transformers (I'm the most recent editor of 2,274 of 2,285
> > transformers mapped in Ireland). I can smell them at 50 metres! :) Or
> > rather, I've mapped so many I can tell in a neighbourhood where I am
> likely
> > to find one.
> > >
> > > I also run scripts through Over-Pass Turbo a few times a month,
> > searching for police stations, post office infrastructure and power
> > facilities that need their tagging improved. I also map pipelines &
> > storage  tanks. I've mapped lots of railway, but there are relatively few
> > feature left to map.
> > >
> > > Most of the time, mapping driveways an houses bores me.
> > >
> > > Colm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Mapping event - Ballaghadereen 5 October

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

In collaboration with the Northern and Western Assembly, we are running a
mapping event in their chambers from 11am to 3pm, to further improve the
mapping of the area and spread the word on the value of open-source maps,

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/map-ballaghadereen-tickets-73027696807?ref=estw
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[OSM-talk-ie] OSM Awards 2019

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I am happy to announce that Brian Hollinshead has been shortlisted for the
OSM 2019 award for the Expanding the community award. Vote early and
often!!!
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Re: [Talk-GB] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 155, Issue 20

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I did the interview for the project. Would recommend other doing it if you
can.

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>1. need the help please (XU ZHANG)
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> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:24:24 +0800 (CST)
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> Good afernoon,
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> My name is Xu Zhang, and I am a postgraduate student from Leeds University
> Business School, in the UK. I am writing now a dissertation about
> OpenStreetMap, and I need your help to understand how the ecosystem around
> this community evolve over time.
>
> I would like to invite you for an interview through skype or other social
> media or maybe other way in this week when you are available.
>
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> Hi,
>
> I've started to create a detailed layout for use in OSMTracker for Android,
> which hopefully will help in surveying paths and tracks, and subsequently
> updating OSM. It's slightly different to the original layout within the
> app, and it has buttons for UK designations, access restrictions,
> smoothness, surface, and a few other features which I think will help.
>
> In order to use this layout, you will need to install OSMTracker for
> Android (there are 2 versions of OSMTracker, so make sure you have the
> correct one. Once installed, go to settings, Button Presets, and click on
> the green cross top right, then click on the spanner symbol. Tick Custom,
> and;
> Github username = Nick-Tallguy
> Repository name = osmtracker-android-layouts
> Branch name = master
>
> Click save, and you should have the option to click on a number of
> different layouts created by other contributors, and WALK RIDE DETAILED.
> Click this, and a brief message will appear explaining its use - if you're
> happy, click download, and make your way back to the start screen, making
> sure to put a tick in 'walk ride detailed'. When you next start a new track
> you will see this layout. You can change between layouts whilst tracking if
> you wish. Don't forget to make a note of any PROW reference that may be
> displayed.
>
> I'd appreciate feedback on the layout - are there any buttons / labels you
> would like adding (not too many - it may be better to create a new layout)?
>
> Any problems, please get back to me. The layout is 'work in progress' and I
> expect to alter it as a result of feedback.
>
> There are more detailed guides at;
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMTracker_(Android)
> https://github.com/labexp/osmtracker-android/wiki
> and https://learnosm.org/en/mobile-mapping/osmtracker/ (this one's now a
> little out of date and refers to the other version of OSMTracker).
>
> To find a PROW that needs a survey, take a look at
> https://osm.mathmos.net/survey/ and make sure you have a tick in 'Public
> Rights of Way'.
>
> Regards
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[OSM-talk-ie] Galway Event

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Registration is now open for the new event in Galway on the 31st of August,
find out more and sign up if you're going, here

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[Talk-GB] Ogg Camp 19th-20th September in Manchester

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Hey,
For the past couple of years, I've gone to Ogg Camp <https://oggcamp.org/>
which is free to attend, with an optional price of £15 to support the
running costs. Last year I gave a talk on OSM, which saw around ten to
fifteen people turn up. As I'm from Ireland I couldn't give any local
information about mapping in the U.K. So if any of you are local you can
register to give a talk on the main stage or put up a post-it note,
unconference style for a talk in one of the other rooms. Maybe if a few
turn up we can do a mapping session around the city after the talk.

Depending on the layout, i.e are there tables in the common area like last
year and turnout of mappers, we could run tutorials on the fly as people
mingle between talks,

Tadeusz Cantwell
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[OSM-talk-ie] [Announcement] AGM and Information day - June 15th 11am-3pm in Tog, Dublin

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

The time has come to hold the first OpenStreetMap Ireland AGM since we
formed the company. It will be held in Tog Hackerspace
,
Dublin, from 11 am to 3 pm, The event will be in two sections, starting off
with a short introduction to who are and a demonstration/tutorial for
anyone new to open source mapping. After that, there will be a selection of
five-minute lightning talks and general discussion up to the 1 pm break.
Anyone interested in giving a talk can email me, t4d...@gmail.com with your
idea.

Then around 2 pm we will hold the formal AGM and give a detailed report of
the work being done behind the scenes. Then we all step down as the board
that formed the company and hold a vote for the new board. This is an
opportunity for anyone interested in joining us to help with the
administrative/behind the scenes and help shape the future of how mapping
progresses in Ireland.

We also would like to set up a number of working groups which people can
also get involved in for e.g. around Island wide projects, such as having
every house mapped and system administration for back-end services.

We hope to see as many of you there as possible and help bring together all
the work we do as individuals into a greater whole.
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[OSM-talk-ie] Mapping party - UCC

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

For our next mapping party, we will be going to the Digital Arts and
Humanities Active Learning Space at University College Cork to introduce
OSM to the students and any locals who want to attend. The event will be on
the 23rd of March from 11 am to 3 pm. Any members in the area who would
like to meet up share tips and tricks, as well as show the ropes to some
beginners are most welcome.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townlands and N.I

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Thanks for the year, I got this result in my search. So a bill becomes an
act after it has gone through the full legislative process. The below link
is titled "Local Government (Numbers and Addresses of Buildings in
Townlands) Bill", which is what the research paper was building up to.
http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/assembly-business/legislation/2011-2016-mandate/current-non-executive-bill-proposals/local-government-numbers-and-addresses-of-buildings-in-townlands-bill/local-government-numbers-and-addresses-of-buildings-in-townlands-bill/
here is the pdf of the bill.
http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/legislation/bills/non-executive-bills/session-2015-2016/local-government-townlands/local-government-townlands-bill---as-introduced.pdf

I presume if it had been passed it would have been moved from this part of
the website and therefore was not passed?

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 20:40,  wrote:

> I am pretty sure there was a bill passed to make it a legal requirement
> to
> have the townland in the address, by all official departments, some time
> in
> 2015 or 2016 maybe?
>
> I know there was a lot of noise at the time by Phil Flanagan from
> Fermanagh as
> he wanted to have building numbers within townlands, instead of street
> name
> and numbers plus townlands we have now.
>
> All the townlands have been mapped in NI and are tagged like this -
> https://
> www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4777253
>
> On 26.02.2019 20:09, Tadeusz Cantwell wrote:
>
> > I think it does, Stephen, since at the very least townland names are used
> > in the official database of house names and are used by many councils at
> a
> > local level on signs and as part of their naming convention for roads
> etc,
> > despite no Townland Names Bill having passed the assembly. A very simple
> > question occurs to me, have townlands been already been mapped in N.I and
> > what tags were used for them? If not what tag should be used?
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 19:32, Stephen Roulston via Talk-ie <
> > talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> >
> > See the motions and recommendations in 2001 and 2002 as set out in the
> > 2009 research paper - does that help?
> >
> > http://archive.niassembly.gov.uk/researchandlibrary/2009/11109.pdf
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 26 Feb 2019, at 19:25, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
> >
> > I reread the page, which says the tag refers to officially used
> boundaries, which would not apply to N.I, since it is not the policy of OSM
> to have
> > historic boundaries. However, if, as Stephen says they are still used for
> > the official addresses of houses then they do have a use and I presume,
> > effectively haven't changed since 1921 when the ward system was brought
> in. Does anyone know of any source or document which would clarify the
> matter? Is there some kind of N.I government body to ask.
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townlands and N.I

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I really should do more research before I press send. There is, of course,
the townlands website which shows they have been mapped for the whole
island. So the advice for it to only to apply to Ireland the country has
been ignored.


On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 20:09, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I think it does, Stephen, since at the very least townland names are used
> in the official database of house names and are used by many councils at a
> local level on signs and as part of their naming convention for roads etc,
> despite no Townland Names Bill having passed the assembly. A very simple
> question occurs to me, have townlands been already been mapped in N.I and
> what tags were used for them? If not what tag should be used?
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 19:32, Stephen Roulston via Talk-ie <
> talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>> See the motions and recommendations in 2001 and 2002 as set out in the
>> 2009 research paper - does that help?
>>
>> http://archive.niassembly.gov.uk/researchandlibrary/2009/11109.pdf
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On 26 Feb 2019, at 19:25, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
>> >
>> > I reread the page, which says the tag refers to officially used
>> boundaries,
>> > which would not apply to N.I, since it is not the policy of OSM to have
>> > historic boundaries. However, if, as Stephen says they are still used
>> for
>> > the official addresses of houses then they do have a use and I presume,
>> > effectively haven't changed since 1921 when the ward system was brought
>> in.
>> > Does anyone know of any source or document which would clarify the
>> matter?
>> > Is there some kind of N.I government body to ask.
>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townlands and N.I

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I think it does, Stephen, since at the very least townland names are used
in the official database of house names and are used by many councils at a
local level on signs and as part of their naming convention for roads etc,
despite no Townland Names Bill having passed the assembly. A very simple
question occurs to me, have townlands been already been mapped in N.I and
what tags were used for them? If not what tag should be used?

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 at 19:32, Stephen Roulston via Talk-ie <
talk-ie@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> See the motions and recommendations in 2001 and 2002 as set out in the
> 2009 research paper - does that help?
>
> http://archive.niassembly.gov.uk/researchandlibrary/2009/11109.pdf
>
> Stephen
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 26 Feb 2019, at 19:25, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
> >
> > I reread the page, which says the tag refers to officially used
> boundaries,
> > which would not apply to N.I, since it is not the policy of OSM to have
> > historic boundaries. However, if, as Stephen says they are still used for
> > the official addresses of houses then they do have a use and I presume,
> > effectively haven't changed since 1921 when the ward system was brought
> in.
> > Does anyone know of any source or document which would clarify the
> matter?
> > Is there some kind of N.I government body to ask.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townlands and N.I

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I reread the page, which says the tag refers to officially used boundaries,
which would not apply to N.I, since it is not the policy of OSM to have
historic boundaries. However, if, as Stephen says they are still used for
the official addresses of houses then they do have a use and I presume,
effectively haven't changed since 1921 when the ward system was brought in.
Does anyone know of any source or document which would clarify the matter?
Is there some kind of N.I government body to ask.

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[OSM-talk-ie] Belfast meetup

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Just to remind you all that the meetup in Queen's University Belfast is on
next Saturday from 11am to 3pm. We have three talks planned, intro to JOSM,
parsing data with QGIS and mapping with drones. Hope to see some of you
there. You can book a ticket here.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstreetmap-meetup-belfast-tickets-55731180461

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[OSM-talk-ie] Belfast meetup

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We are delighted to announce, as part of our mission to bring OSM to the
whole island, we will be having a mapping session in the QGIS department of
Queens University Belfast. The event will happen on the 16th of Feb from 11
am to 3 pm. Just two hours on the motorway from Dublin! Hope to see some of
you there.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Apartment

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Thanks. Yes, not all the doors are numbered and the numbering are not in a
simple sequence. That's a good tip to label them apartments.

On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 at 16:15, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> That level of mapping is quite detailed. :) Are some apartment numbers
> missing?
>
> This is how I have mapped some apartment blocks. Each has a nuance in its
> numbering.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/353877339
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/271494230
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/353877335
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/229475222
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/353958506
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109246513
>
> Note that you can say building=apartments, so that people can tell it
> apart(!) from terraced houses.
>
> Colm
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 18:36:28 +
> From: Tadeusz Cantwell 
> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
> Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Apartment
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I was mapping an apartment style building, Ballynoe Court, but each one had
> there own doors. Does this look like the best way to achieve it.
>
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstreetmap.org%2F%23map%3D19%2F53.18983%2F-6.12670data=02%7C01%7C%7Cf2784ae6978d4366b12208d665a9e36a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636808177663878763sdata=VkqZAge0Q74UMkdoMGtH6QXhUYef4iaQLSP1kyn7H2o%3Dreserved=0
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[OSM-talk-ie] Apartment

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I was mapping an apartment style building, Ballynoe Court, but each one had
there own doors. Does this look like the best way to achieve it.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.18983/-6.12670
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[OSM-talk-ie] Open Database License

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Probably one of the most complex topics that we as a community have to deal
with is licenses, in the past, it was mainly watching out for people using
proprietary sources. That had a simple yes or no outcome.

Now that the Irish government is opening data under the ODbL, with
different clauses, that becomes harder because some allow reuse and others
don't, although the trend is towards reuse. Available at
https://data.gov.ie/

An interesting question came from the community is how do we know when open
data from the government has been used. The only answer is if the mapper
cited their source, which of course we can check for, but it would really
be useful to know the communities experience at a personal level, with
using the data to get a better idea its impact in day to day mapping, or
not.

So are you aware of the site, have you used it to fill in missing
information on OSM?  Did you cite an Irish gov source? Would you be
interested in knowing more about this data?

it's hard to do a poll by email, so I'll set up one up on Facebook and
Twitter. But reply here if you have a long form reply or prefer not to use
social media.

As I said this is a complex topic, which I think will have evolving
solutions as our knowledge and understanding improves. To be honest I
presume this will be a learning process for most of us. It certainly will
be for me. However, by tackling this topic it will be easier to advocate
government departments to open more data by showing what can be done with
what is available now. Allowing us to create better maps.

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[OSM-talk-ie] Info on OpenStreetMap Ireland CLG

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Hey Everyone, I am delighted to announce that our paperwork has been filed
and we have our business number, which is 638034. The next step is to set
up membership, which will happen in the next year after we have a bank
account and GDPR policy in place. If you have any questions or concerns let
us know.


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Board of Directors

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Broken townland boundary

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

So first of all, the error wasn't me! With advice from Brian I used the
Ireland British war office gsgs3906 in the imagery dropdown so they follow
the townland boundary line. This fixes the error. Also found where
Ballywaltrim ended in a n not an m. There are still warnings that the
admin_level is not set. So I'll need some more help to fix that.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 15:23, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> Ok it seems when I unglue the Ballywaltrim cottages it exposes the errors
> that have lay hidden. I'll need to reference a boundary map to see how it
> should be.
>
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:51, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:
>
>> I presume this was me.  Every time I try and edit in the area lots of
>> validation errors come up. Didn't realise I uploaded one. Will have a look
>> at it again.
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:44, Colm Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475830816#map=17/53.18872/-6.12930
>>>
>>>
>>> There are several things happening here, so it's beyond my skills to
>>> fix. I would be grateful if someone could look at it. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Broken townland boundary

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Ok it seems when I unglue the Ballywaltrim cottages it exposes the errors
that have lay hidden. I'll need to reference a boundary map to see how it
should be.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:51, Tadeusz Cantwell  wrote:

> I presume this was me.  Every time I try and edit in the area lots of
> validation errors come up. Didn't realise I uploaded one. Will have a look
> at it again.
>
> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:44, Colm Moore  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475830816#map=17/53.18872/-6.12930
>>
>>
>> There are several things happening here, so it's beyond my skills to fix.
>> I would be grateful if someone could look at it. :)
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> Colm
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Broken townland boundary

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I presume this was me.  Every time I try and edit in the area lots of
validation errors come up. Didn't realise I uploaded one. Will have a look
at it again.

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:44, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/475830816#map=17/53.18872/-6.12930
>
>
> There are several things happening here, so it's beyond my skills to fix.
> I would be grateful if someone could look at it. :)
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Colm
>
>
>
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[OSM-talk-ie] Sat 24th Nov meetup

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

After our successful launch, it is time to get back into the swing of
things and start mapping parties again. Tog will be hosting us again in
their relaxed common area to map, socialize and collaborate.

Ciarán Staunton will give a 20min workshop in Mapillary, followed by a
40min walk around to put those skills to use. Could be useful for any new
arrivals to Dublin!

Here is a rough schedule for meetups over the next few months all around
the country. If you would like to help in the planning for any events get
in touch.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at_WhBAhf894Y-Z7UunqCMx7uJnqdRYMGh_87w0PJac/edit?ts=5bdb6e99#gid=0
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Progress visualisation for Ireland

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Ah Cool. Didn't recognise the user name.

On Thu 17 May 2018, 13:29 Heikki Vesanto, <heikki.vesa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Part of my talk at the OSGeo conference next week.
>
> The one one of boundaries really shows the progress of the townlands
> project:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/19XqMm4XIVxhmx0yI3I3bT-FiQx1RAvFu/view?usp=drivesdk
>
> -Heikki
>
> On Thu 17 May 2018, 13:21 Tadeusz Cantwell, <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Progress visualisation for Ireland

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https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8k2z73/all_of_the_roads_in_ireland_on_openstreetmap_over/?utm_source=reddit-android
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Request for help... Do you have company formation experience?

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Thanks Michael,
That would be very helpful. We will be working on this for the next few
weeks.

Tadeusz

On Mon 26 Mar 2018, 16:04 larkinml,  wrote:

> .long retired but had knowledge Companies Acts had example Memorandum and
> Articles included . I am out of Ireland and away from laptop not convenient
> to check just now. Will be ready next week if nothing turns upMICHAEL
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>  Original message From: Donal Hunt 
> Date: 26/03/2018  09:31  (GMT+00:00) To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in
> Ireland  Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Request for
> help... Do you have company formation experience?
> Hi everyone,
>
> A number of us met on Saturday to progress the plans to create a legal
> entity for the OpenStreetMap community in Ireland (specifically a
> non-profit CLG). We are actively developing a constitution (made up of a
> Memorandum of Association and Articles of Association) to enable this to
> happen.
>
> On Saturday we had a representative from the Synergy Group present to the
> group and he advised that engaging a commercial operator to develop and
> file the relevant Company Registrations Office (CRO) paperwork will cost ~
> €600-1000. Obviously this would need to be covered by the membership and we
> felt that the current community size would make this unsustainable from the
> outset.
>
> So a request... Does anyone in the community have experience of developing
> and filing CRO paperwork? Would you be willing to support getting the legal
> entity across the line?
>
> Alternatively, if you know anyone who could help (and owes you a favour),
> please reach out to me directly and we'll followup.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting minutes - 2 December 2017

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Yes that should make the minutes correct.

On Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:35 Donal Hunt, <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tad!
>
> The minutes are still incorrect as I was not present. My understanding was
> that Dermot McNally was present so the attendees line needs to be amended
> to remove me and add Dermot.
> Regards
>
> Donal
>
> On 24 March 2018 at 11:02, Tadeusz Cantwell <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Here is the reformatted minutes from Ciaran.
> >
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZtJpYhL0tnreOmuLvN0SyskKVStq
> > BQPA7oq4hS6QH0/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > Sorry I mixed up you and Dermot McNally, he was attending. I'm pretty
> sure
> > you were one of the names mentioned.
> >
> > Hope the meeting is going/went well.
> >
> > Tadeusz
> >
> > On Sat 24 Mar 2018, 11:51 Donal Hunt, <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Some queries were raised when we reviewed the minutes at today's
> meeting.
> > >
> > > Can we clarify the names of the interim board? Was I nominated in my
> > > absence (I'm cool with that)? It's not clear who Declan is (no full
> name)
> > > or who the invitatees are (does someone have the sheet with the names
> on
> > > it??).
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, 19:56 Tadeusz Cantwell, <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok. Will have to do it from memory.
> > > > Yes was on 2nd Dec, as corrected above.
> > > >
> > > > Three where there, myself, Donal, Brian.
> > > > Recapped on previous notes, esp, that a DAC with non profit specified
> > in
> > > > the documents was the best approach. Went over Ciaran's advice who
> made
> > > his
> > > > apologies due to illness.
> > > >
> > > > Voted in and choose board members who might be interested, to keep
> > > > everything moving forward.
> > > > Interim board
> > > > Tadeusz Cantwell
> > > > Declan
> > > > Ciaran Staunton
> > > > Two invites. (Names on sheet, don't recall them)
> > > >
> > > > Discussed sensitivities around the border. That the company would be
> > > > registered in the Ireland, but would mention working inclusivly with
> > N.I
> > > > Went over promtional avenues. I should have done a Tog blog post.
> Will
> > do
> > > > for the next one. Contacting OSM and other chapters and a few other
> > > things
> > > > ive forgotten.
> > > >
> > > > That is the main gist of it. Missing some details.
> > > >
> > > > Tadeusz Cantwell
> > > >
> > > > On 10 Dec 2017 19:31, "Donal Hunt" <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Correction: I believe the date was 02 December 2017.
> > > > >
> > > > > Apologies for my lack of attendance. I was suffering with an ear
> > > > infection.
> > > > > Please do share the notes of last weekend's meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Donal
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10 Dec 2017 19:19, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official
> > chapter
> > > > of
> > > > > > OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i
> hope
> > > he
> > > > > will
> > > > > > post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set
> up
> > > an
> > > > > > interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites.
> We
> > > > should
> > > > > > meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting minutes - 2 December 2017

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Here is the reformatted minutes from Ciaran.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AZtJpYhL0tnreOmuLvN0SyskKVStqBQPA7oq4hS6QH0/edit?usp=sharing

Sorry I mixed up you and Dermot McNally, he was attending. I'm pretty sure
you were one of the names mentioned.

Hope the meeting is going/went well.

Tadeusz

On Sat 24 Mar 2018, 11:51 Donal Hunt, <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Some queries were raised when we reviewed the minutes at today's meeting.
>
> Can we clarify the names of the interim board? Was I nominated in my
> absence (I'm cool with that)? It's not clear who Declan is (no full name)
> or who the invitatees are (does someone have the sheet with the names on
> it??).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Donal
>
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017, 19:56 Tadeusz Cantwell, <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok. Will have to do it from memory.
> > Yes was on 2nd Dec, as corrected above.
> >
> > Three where there, myself, Donal, Brian.
> > Recapped on previous notes, esp, that a DAC with non profit specified in
> > the documents was the best approach. Went over Ciaran's advice who made
> his
> > apologies due to illness.
> >
> > Voted in and choose board members who might be interested, to keep
> > everything moving forward.
> > Interim board
> > Tadeusz Cantwell
> > Declan
> > Ciaran Staunton
> > Two invites. (Names on sheet, don't recall them)
> >
> > Discussed sensitivities around the border. That the company would be
> > registered in the Ireland, but would mention working inclusivly with N.I
> > Went over promtional avenues. I should have done a Tog blog post. Will do
> > for the next one. Contacting OSM and other chapters and a few other
> things
> > ive forgotten.
> >
> > That is the main gist of it. Missing some details.
> >
> > Tadeusz Cantwell
> >
> > On 10 Dec 2017 19:31, "Donal Hunt" <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Correction: I believe the date was 02 December 2017.
> > >
> > > Apologies for my lack of attendance. I was suffering with an ear
> > infection.
> > > Please do share the notes of last weekend's meeting.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Donal
> > >
> > > On 10 Dec 2017 19:19, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official chapter
> > of
> > > > OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i hope
> he
> > > will
> > > > post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set up
> an
> > > > interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites. We
> > should
> > > > meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company
> > status.
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[OSM-talk-ie] AGM meeting for Feb

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Just as a reminder there was a temporary board elected for OSM Ireland on
the 2nd of December, with a recommendation to elect a full board of
directors in three months time. As the previous two meetings I can arrange
for the AGM to happen in Tog. I will be busy on the Saturday the 10th and
the 24th of that month, so we can either have it on a different weekend or
the first Saturday of March since February is a short month. Please put
forward dates you are available here or on Facebook and we can see what
date suits most people.

Tadeusz Cantwell
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 2nd Nov

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Ok. Will have to do it from memory.
Yes was on 2nd Dec, as corrected above.

Three where there, myself, Donal, Brian.
Recapped on previous notes, esp, that a DAC with non profit specified in
the documents was the best approach. Went over Ciaran's advice who made his
apologies due to illness.

Voted in and choose board members who might be interested, to keep
everything moving forward.
Interim board
Tadeusz Cantwell
Declan
Ciaran Staunton
Two invites. (Names on sheet, don't recall them)

Discussed sensitivities around the border. That the company would be
registered in the Ireland, but would mention working inclusivly with N.I
Went over promtional avenues. I should have done a Tog blog post. Will do
for the next one. Contacting OSM and other chapters and a few other things
ive forgotten.

That is the main gist of it. Missing some details.

Tadeusz Cantwell

On 10 Dec 2017 19:31, "Donal Hunt" <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Correction: I believe the date was 02 December 2017.
>
> Apologies for my lack of attendance. I was suffering with an ear infection.
> Please do share the notes of last weekend's meeting.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Donal
>
> On 10 Dec 2017 19:19, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official chapter of
> > OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i hope he
> will
> > post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set up an
> > interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites. We should
> > meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company status.
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 2nd Nov

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As a reminder, there was a meeting for setting up an official chapter of
OSMIreland on the 2nd of Nov. Declan was taking notes, which i hope he will
post soon. In short following advice from Ciaran Staunton we set up an
interim committee, with myself, Ciaran, Donal, and two invites. We should
meet at the latest by the end of Feb to set up apply for company status.

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[OSM-talk-ie] Royal demense

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Came across an old article which talked about royal demense areas in
Dublin, in the 1930's. Are they still areas used in planning?

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

The proposal has gone through.

On 1 November 2017 at 11:32, Brian Hollinshead <br...@hollinshead.net>
wrote:

> December 2nd Fine with me as well
>
> On 1 November 2017 at 10:55, Donal Hunt <donal.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for keeping us informed. Fingers crossed the 2nd works out for
> > everyone.
> >
> > Donal
> >
> > On 1 Nov 2017 10:54, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey, I had something come up for the 25th so i resubmited the proposal
> > for
> > > the 2nd as it was the other option to meet.
> > >
> > > Tadeusz
> > >
> > > On 21 Oct 2017 9:08 PM, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If there are no objections to Sat Nov 25th, from 10am to 4pm, in the
> > next
> > > > couple of days I will submit the proposal.
> > > > Tad
> > > >
> > > > On 21 October 2017 at 17:48, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Tadeusz,
> > > >>
> > > >> That's great.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think the hours today worked well, the finish was early and a
> break
> > at
> > > >> the half way point for lunch was good. I'd suggest the same 10-4
> again
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks again to Tog for hosting
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> On 21 Oct 2017 17:15, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland.
> Tog
> > > is
> > > >> > free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can
> > submit
> > > a
> > > >> > proposal.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > What time should be put down to start and finish.
> > > >> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

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Hey, I had something come up for the 25th so i resubmited the proposal for
the 2nd as it was the other option to meet.

Tadeusz

On 21 Oct 2017 9:08 PM, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If there are no objections to Sat Nov 25th, from 10am to 4pm, in the next
> couple of days I will submit the proposal.
> Tad
>
> On 21 October 2017 at 17:48, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tadeusz,
>>
>> That's great.
>>
>> I think the hours today worked well, the finish was early and a break at
>> the half way point for lunch was good. I'd suggest the same 10-4 again
>>
>> Thanks again to Tog for hosting
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On 21 Oct 2017 17:15, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland. Tog is
>> > free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can submit a
>> > proposal.
>> >
>> > What time should be put down to start and finish.
>> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

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If there are no objections to Sat Nov 25th, from 10am to 4pm, in the next
couple of days I will submit the proposal.
Tad

On 21 October 2017 at 17:48, Dave Corley <davecor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Tadeusz,
>
> That's great.
>
> I think the hours today worked well, the finish was early and a break at
> the half way point for lunch was good. I'd suggest the same 10-4 again
>
> Thanks again to Tog for hosting
>
> Dave
>
> On 21 Oct 2017 17:15, "Tadeusz Cantwell" <t4d...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland. Tog is
> > free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can submit a
> > proposal.
> >
> > What time should be put down to start and finish.
> >
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[OSM-talk-ie] Meeting 25th Nov

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Thanks everyone who came to the meeting to organise OSM Ireland. Tog is
free on the 25th Nov. If the group are ok with that date I can submit a
proposal.

What time should be put down to start and finish.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Saturday meeting.

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

I am still good to open the venue.

On 19 Oct 2017 2:43 PM, "Donal Hunt"  wrote:

> I intend to travel up from Cork despite the weather forecast for the
> weekend (windy but we'll be inside so it'll be fine).
>
> If others are unable to make it (still plenty of people recovering from
> Monday it seems) and a reschedule become likely, notification before lunch
> tomorrow would be appreciated. Will cancel the trip up and do the other
> errands I have another weekend.
>
> Let us know if you need anything to support the event. Can bring printer,
> office supplies, etc if needed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Donal
>
> On 19 Oct 2017 14:18, "John Ronan"  wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I won't be able to make the meeting Saturday. In work, we were 18 hours
> > on Generator Monday night/Tuesday, another 4 hours this morning and I
> > expect we will be again on Saturday. So I expect I'll be here.
> >
> >
> > Apologies,
> >
> > John (jpronans)
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

As a member of Tog I can come in early on the 21st to open up and put my
name down to host the event.
Tad

On 11 September 2017 at 13:39, Dave Corley  wrote:

> Hi Jeffrey,
>
> A 4pm finish might not be a bad idea especially for those traveling. Would
> it be possible to start earlier? Say 10 or 11? I'm just mindful that there
> will be a lot of things to go through and I would like to leave time for
>  discussions. On the other hand, I don't want to inconvenience you (or
> other Tog members) too much as you are doing us a favour.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Jeffrey Roe  wrote:
>
> > There is an internal event on the 21st that starts at 4pm. So you
> > would need to finish up then or run it on the 14th.
> > An event takes 5 days for Tog to approve and you need a member to host
> > you.  I could possible do the 21st but you would need someone else to
> > host if you wanted the 14th.
> > Jeffrey Roe,
> > www.tog.ie
> >
> >
> > On 11 September 2017 at 10:41, Dave Corley  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Rounding back on this again. Between the responses on the mail list,
> > > Facebook and previous surveys, the general consensus is to go ahead
> with
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Martin, sorry for not replying to you earlier, but I wanted to stay
> quiet
> > > and see what others thought first. To your point, yes, its possible to
> do
> > > everything I stated outside of a formal body, but given we are an
> > informal
> > > grouping of similarly minded folks for over a decade and organisational
> > > interest/involvement is decreasing rather than increasing, I think its
> > > necessary to do this if we are to ever become "more". Your comment
> about
> > > there being a functioning group is bang on the money too. Right now I
> > feel
> > > there is such a thing, and the infrastructure is more or less in place
> (
> > we
> > > are starting in a much better position than our UK counterparts).
> > >
> > > That being said, after the original survey questions a year ago, the
> mail
> > > list and facebook responses and some private feedback, I think, as
> usual,
> > > the distance factor is the biggest hurdle. With that in mind I think
> its
> > > best to change from a series of meetings on the subject, to a single
> one,
> > > where several of us come together and blitz the main items:
> > >
> > > - Constitution
> > > - Memorandum of association
> > > - Articles of association
> > > - Interim board
> > > - etc etc
> > >
> > > What I looking to achieve is to get to a point where we are 90% of the
> > way
> > > there. Afterwards, everything achieved would be put up online for
> > feedback,
> > > comment and to close out any remaining items.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping a single session of 5-6 hours should be good enough for
> this,
> > > say from 12-5/6 on a Saturday. I'm hoping that by limiting this to a
> > single
> > > day, to get a much larger group to participate.
> > >
> > > In order to keep things moving through the day, I'm going to try
> organise
> > > some sponsorship of refreshments.
> > >
> > > Would the Tog folks on this list know if Tog is available on a Saturday
> > in
> > > Oct? Say the 14th or 21st. If not, I'll try sort something else.
> > >
> > > Once a date and location is set, I'll set up an invite page, just to be
> > > able to track numbers attending in the event I get sponsorship for
> > > refreshments.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:57 AM, Rory McCann 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I agree with Dave, it would be good to get a formal OSM body set up.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, for doing more mapping events, you don't need a formal body, but
> > >> you do it you want to be an OSMF local chapter, and I suspect it would
> > >> be easier to talk to government bodies (or big orgs) if you're from an
> > >> official body.
> > >>
> > >> And who knows, setting it up might be kick up the arse for some of us!
> > >>
> > >> Since I'm in Germany, I can't come to any of the events.  But
> I'll
> > >> help how I can... I was involved with setting up TOG, which was
> > >> originally an unincorporated association (don't do that!) and is now a
> > >> DAC (designed activity company(?))
> > >>
> > >> On 14/08/17 03:52, Dave Corley wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> First, I want to apologise, this is a long email, but if you are at
> all
> > >>> interested in moving OSM in Ireland to the next level, please read on
> > and
> > >>> give your feedback when you're done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Efforts to get the OSM Ireland group set up as a legal entity and
> > >>> established as a recognised chapter have never really got out of the
> > >>> starting blocks for us, mainly because it's an exceptionally long,
> > boring
> > >>> process to get it all done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Back when Rory gave the Townlands presentation at a Sotm or two ago,
> I
> > >>> contacted everyone who took part and asked a number of questions 

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OSM Ireland chapter - reboot

[Tadeusz Cantwell]

Anything that reinvigorates the OSM in Ireland I am in favour of. Having an
immediate goal of setting up formal structures seems like a good short term
goal to reboot the informal organisation to via regular meetings and build
from that. Other then that most of what is being discussed is new to me.

Tadeusz

On 14 August 2017 at 17:13, Donal Hunt  wrote:

> I'm happy to support in any way possible. I'm based down in Cork so happy
> to support activities down this way as well as nationally.
>
> Keep us looped in regarding dates, etc (happy to travel / video conference
> for any meetups).
>
> Donal
>
> On 14 Aug 2017 07:33, "Martín Ferrari"  wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > On 13/08/17 21:52, Dave Corley wrote:
> >
> > > What I would love to see is a functioning OSM Ireland body which, at an
> > > absolute minimum, could do the following
> > [snip]
> >
> > Excuse me for the possibly dumb question.. But why is a legal entity
> > needed to achive any of these goals? Seems to me all of that could be
> > done as an informal group... Actually, I would say that there is no
> > point in setting a formal structure unless there is an already
> > functioning group.
> >
> > My 2¢.
> >
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