Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-19 Thread malenki
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:29:53 +0100, Paul Norman wrote: The Great Lakes have been discussed a few times on the local lists and the conclusion has been arrived at that they are best represented with natural=coastline. Could you give a short overview of the reasoning leading to the decision? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 02:48:03PM +0100, malenki wrote: Jochen Topf wrote: Please do not add more (and more difficult cases like lakes on islands in lakes on land) to the data, otherwise this process will get more brittle than it already is. Well, that is a word. What do you think of

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread malenki
Christoph Hormann wrote: [some more lakes with coastlines] thanks for the overview Lake Ontario and Rybinsk Reservoir have both been newly tagged as coastline recently agaist the general moratorium: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27591832

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 18 February 2015, Jochen Topf wrote: The Great Lakes should move away from the natural=coastline mapping. I myself have fixed this for some other lakes but didn't want to touch the Great Lakes because they are, well, so great, and in parts mapped in a lot of detail. I home

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 18 February 2015, malenki wrote: Lake Ontario and Rybinsk Reservoir have both been newly tagged as coastline recently agaist the general moratorium: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27591832 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28625595 Regarding the latters changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
On Wednesday 18 February 2015 15:29:28 malenki wrote: colliar wrote: Am 18.02.2015 um 14:48 schrieb malenki: Jochen Topf wrote: Please do not add more (and more difficult cases like lakes on islands in lakes on land) to the data, otherwise this process will get more brittle than it

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread malenki
Jochen Topf wrote: Please do not add more (and more difficult cases like lakes on islands in lakes on land) to the data, otherwise this process will get more brittle than it already is. Well, that is a word. What do you think of the Great Lakes mapped (partly) both with coastline and MPs?

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread malenki
colliar wrote: Am 18.02.2015 um 14:48 schrieb malenki: Jochen Topf wrote: Please do not add more (and more difficult cases like lakes on islands in lakes on land) to the data, otherwise this process will get more brittle than it already is. Well, that is a word. What do you think of

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread colliar
Am 18.02.2015 um 14:48 schrieb malenki: Jochen Topf wrote: Please do not add more (and more difficult cases like lakes on islands in lakes on land) to the data, otherwise this process will get more brittle than it already is. Well, that is a word. What do you think of the Great Lakes

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 09:33:14PM +0100, Richard Z. wrote: coastline. Everything else would seem like a nightmare and I do not think there is any reasonable ground for the distinction of coastlines according to lake/ocean type. Perhaps we should be a bit more bold and map all bigger lakes

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-18 Thread Paul Norman
The Great Lakes have been discussed a few times on the local lists and the conclusion has been arrived at that they are best represented with natural=coastline. It's important to remember that the direction of coastline ways matters (land on the left), and it is possible to look at a lake or

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 February 2015, malenki wrote: 1 ways each with 2000 nodes would be 20 million nodes. Evenly distributed on 14000 km outline means a node distance of 70cm - your average node distance seems to be more in the range of 10-20m - i suppose something is wrong here, for

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 17 February 2015, malenki wrote: I am working on Lake Nasser* and can predict that after enhancing it's shore the resulting MP will be quite big. Based on what I have done so far I'd expect an Multipolygon (MP) with about 10.000 Members and an outline of 14.000 km length. A relation

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 07:45:31PM +0100, malenki wrote: I am working on Lake Nasser* and can predict that after enhancing it's shore the resulting MP will be quite big. Based on what I have done so far I'd expect an Multipolygon (MP) with about 10.000 Members and an outline of 14.000 km

[OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread malenki
I am working on Lake Nasser* and can predict that after enhancing it's shore the resulting MP will be quite big. Based on what I have done so far I'd expect an Multipolygon (MP) with about 10.000 Members and an outline of 14.000 km length. A relation of this size is no good idea in hindsight of

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread malenki
Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2015, malenki wrote: Based on what I have done so far I'd expect an Multipolygon (MP) with about 10.000 Members and an outline of 14.000 km length. A relation of this size is no good idea in hindsight of maintainability and conflicts due

Re: [OSM-talk] Big Lakes

2015-02-17 Thread malenki
malenki wrote: For curiosity I had a look at the first version of Lake Nasser – the shore was 1733 km long. PS: if you want to have a look, too: http://malenki.ch/OSM/data/first_lake_nasser_complete_v1.osm ___ talk mailing list