Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-21 Thread Gregory
Why make automated edits? Why not use your scripting ability to contact the users that added the ele=0 tags, tell them you have noticed lots and ask if they are right or wrong. Ask them how they made them, so that they are aware and don't add more wrong ele=0 tags. Then you can even offer to

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Worst Fixer
Hello. 2012/5/20 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: If no good and valid responses come until 2012-05-22, I will upload this. You will not upload anything until there is a consensus that what you're planning to do is good, else your account

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Walter Nordmann
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Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Cartinus
On 05/20/2012 11:53 AM, Worst Fixer wrote: Check with SRTM. Add source:ele=SRTM tag if it matches with reasonable deviation. Don't add source:ele=SRTM. You don't know the original source. It's very likely more accurate than the approximation provided by SRTM. But most importantly, manually

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/5/20 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl: On 05/20/2012 11:53 AM, Worst Fixer wrote: Check with SRTM. Add source:ele=SRTM tag if it matches with reasonable deviation. Don't add source:ele=SRTM. You don't know the original source. +1 Never add source-tags to data you don't know who, how and

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Willi
Worst Fixer [mailto:worstfi...@gmail.com] wrote at Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:54 PM: Ø You dislike me personally. You tell me I will be banned. You will never say there is consensus on this upload. You give yourself right to make final decision what is good and what is right. Ø I think I

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-20 Thread Walter Nordmann
Willi-2 wrote You are mapper since May 9th and behave like a schoolmaster (Deutsch: Oberlehrer) +1 i don't think, that he is an osm-newbie. too much technical knowledge. that must be an additional account just to hide his real nick. Regards walter btw: his out.osm contains changes of 1.6

[OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Worst Fixer
Hello, all. I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit. Main changed tag is ele=0. While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was parsed into a set of more detailed tags. I also created overview.html that might help your review.

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Cartinus
Can you explain in plain English what kind of problem you see with the ele=0 tag? On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello, all. I ask you to review my planned mechanical edit. Main changed tag is ele=0. While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread sabas88
Hi, can I ask why are you going to delete gfoss_id? It's a key used to reference cities in Italy with the data of Gfoss association. Perhaps some of these kind of tags could be transformed instead of being deleted.. In this case I could discuss in Italian ML about transforming that key in

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Thomas Davie
+1, there's plenty of places with 0 elevation above sea level... what's the issue with it? Bob On 19 May 2012, at 15:10, Cartinus wrote: Can you explain in plain English what kind of problem you see with the ele=0 tag? On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello, all. I ask you

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Worst Fixer
Hello. Most of ele=0.0|0|0.000 tags were produced by bad import scripts or automatical GPS track conversion software. I propose removal not all ele=0.0|0|0.000. All that had source:ele tag were preserved. 2012/5/19 Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl Can you explain in plain English

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Cartinus
_Most_ isn't good enough. If you do it this way, you have just decided that mappers are only allowed to tag objects with ele=0 if they also tag it with source:ele tags. AFAIK the mappers that use source:whatever are a minority. On 05/19/2012 04:28 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello. Most of

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
19.05.2012 15:57, Worst Fixer: While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was parsed into a set of more detailed tags. Which other tags does this affect besides ele and is_in? This is basic information for a review that I do not want to reverse-engineer from an .osm

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Thomas Davie
So what you're saying is I know there's broken data there, I'll fix this by deleting good data. That doesn't sound like a good plan to me in any way shape or form. Bob On 19 May 2012, at 15:28, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello. Most of ele=0.0|0|0.000 tags were produced by bad import

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
Possibly using some 3rd party source of elevation data by coordinate (like the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission data from http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/) and if the ele=0 tag is on a location where the average terrain around the coordinate is substantially different than zero would be a way to

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Worst Fixer
Hello. If you download archive (or at least read my mail one line further before replying) you notice overview.html containing information you requested. Here is it separated: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4dFFOTDI3dDcwMVk Also there you can see that 93% of ele=0 tags clearly come

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Thomas Davie
On 19 May 2012, at 18:24, Worst Fixer wrote: Hello. If you download archive (or at least read my mail one line further before replying) you notice overview.html containing information you requested. Here is it separated: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4dFFOTDI3dDcwMVk

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Phil Endecott
Worst Fixer wrote: I also created overview.html that might help your review. https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4VnFPVkhZa096LWM I just get You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video. when I try to view that. If it's just an html file, can't you post it

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
19.05.2012 19:24, Worst Fixer: If you download archive (or at least read my mail one line further before replying) you notice overview.html containing information you requested. I did download the archive and open the overview.html before replying. But I didn't find anything except a long

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/19/2012 03:57 PM, Worst Fixer wrote: If no good and valid responses come until 2012-05-22, I will upload this. You will not upload anything until there is a consensus that what you're planning to do is good, else your account will be banned and your edits reverted. It is good

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread Toby Murray
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Worst Fixer worstfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Most of ele=0.0|0|0.000 tags were produced by bad import scripts or automatical GPS track conversion software. I downloaded all ele=0 elements. There are a couple hundred that are obviously bad but a

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit review: ele=0

2012-05-19 Thread SomeoneElse
Worst Fixer wrote: While doing this edit, I also want clean other tag. Also is_in tag was parsed into a set of more detailed tags. I also created overview.html that might help your review. https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzI7ljRzQhp4VnFPVkhZa096LWM What _exactly_ are you actually