Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread John Whelan
I've seen a lot of poor mapping get replicated in this way by newcomers copying the tags. Cheerio John Mike Thompson wrote on 2020-06-22 8:25 PM: On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:12 PM Mateusz Konieczny via talk mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Jun 23, 2020, 00:07 by

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Mike Thompson
On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:12 PM Mateusz Konieczny via talk < talk@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Jun 23, 2020, 00:07 by miketh...@gmail.com: > > "except for the preceding, we follow OSM community norms." > > This should be enough to ban of all their mapping accounts until changing > their plan > (I

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread John Whelan
> In case of noticing low quality paid mapping - please, at least leave a changeset comment. I think this is a sensible approach that I'll use in future rather than leave an email. On the comments about the classification we are talking specifically about Africa where it is much more

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 23, 2020, 00:07 by miketh...@gmail.com: > "except for the preceding, we follow OSM community norms."  > This should be enough to ban of all their mapping accounts until changing their plan (I assume that they either backtracked that or stopped editing)

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Mike Thompson
I know we are talking about Apple mappers here, but I wanted to point out the Amazon Logistics mappers have been very responsive to changeset comments. However: 1) One of their leaders explained their criteria for a track. There were about four, and that was followed with "except for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 22, 2020, 23:48 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > > >> On 22. Jun 2020, at 23:18, Mateusz Konieczny via talk >> wrote: >> >>> These had been changed from highway unclassified surface unpaved to >>> highway=track by a mapper with Apple connections. >>> >> Can you link

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Andreas Vilén
Maybe the mappers think unclassified equals what we call highway=road, as in no classification yet determined? It’s a fairly common misconception among new mappers. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone > 22 juni 2020 kl. 23:50 skrev Martin Koppenhoefer : >

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Jun 2020, at 23:18, Mateusz Konieczny via talk > wrote: > > These had been changed from highway unclassified surface unpaved to > highway=track by a mapper with Apple connections. > Can you link them? I would revert them as tagging for renderer if original >

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Jun 22, 2020, 22:54 by jwhelan0...@gmail.com: > The ones that stood out were highways that connected settlements to other > settlements on the map.  These had been changed from highway unclassified > surface unpaved to highway=track by a mapper with Apple connections. > Can you link them? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread john whelan
The ones that stood out were highways that connected settlements to other settlements on the map. These had been changed from highway unclassified surface unpaved to highway=track by a mapper with Apple connections. They seemed to have retagged a fair number and I don't honestly recall exactly

Re: [OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Please clarify: are the Apple mappers 1) changing the ways to highway=track, or 2) changing ways that are currently highway=track to something else? I would support #2 in any case where the way connects settlements, since we have always defined highway=track as a way that is used for agriculture,

[OSM-talk] Paid mapping

2020-06-22 Thread John Whelan
I've noticed a number of highways being changed in Africa from unclassified to track and from unclassified to tertiary.    The ones I've noticed are Apple mappers usually with the comment of from Bing and often the highways connect settlements so should be a minimum of unclassified or path but